Subject: CRY FREETOWN(sierra leone rank 176 out of 177)
From: FODAY MANSARAY
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Date Posted: 00:22:43 05/24/07 ()
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Our wise men will say : "The true da pan tie en shoe lace en the lie don go around the world 7 times before he finish..Ladies and gentlemen lets hear it from the horses mouth.Please lets don't run into donor
fatigue because of our inability to govern ourself.
Country Fact Sheets
Sierra Leone
The Human Development Index – going beyond income
The human development index (HDI) focuses on three measurable dimensions of human development: living a long and healthy life, being educated and having a decent standard of living. Thus it combines measures of life expectancy, school enrolment, literacy and income to allow a broader view of a country’s development than does income alone.
Although the HDI is a useful starting point, it is important to remember that the concept of human development is much broader and more complex than any summary measure can capture, even when supplemented by other indices. The HDI is not a comprehensive measure. It does not include important aspects of human development, notably the ability to participate in the decisions that affect one’s life and to enjoy the respect of others in the community.
It is also important to note that the HDI is constructed using data from international sources. Sometimes more up-to-date data are available nationally, and sometimes there are slight differences in definitions between international and national data. For these and other reasons, discrepancies with national sources may occur.
HDI rank
2003
(177 countries) GDP per capita
rank
2003
(177 countries) GDP per capita
(PPP US$) rank
minus HDI
rank (higher
means better
on HDI) GDP per capita
value
(PPP US$)
2003
HDI
value
2003
Sierra Leone 176 177 1 548 0.298
Sub-Saharan Africa Countries - - - 1,856 0.515
Best performer in Sub-Saharan Africa (Seychelles) 51 56 5 10,232 0.821
Worst performer in Sub-Saharan Africa (Niger) 177 169 -8 835 0.281
Sierra Leone is ranked 176th in the 2005 Human Development Report, with an HDI value of 0.298.
Seychelles ranks first in the region, with a value of 0.821.
Life expectancy at birth
(years)
2003 Combined primary, secondary and
tertiary gross enrolment ratio (%)
2002/2003 GDP per capita
(PPP US$)
2003
1. Japan (82.0)
2. Hong Kong, China (SAR) (81.6)
3. Iceland (80.7)
167. Congo, Dem. Rep. of the (43.1)
168. Mozambique (41.9)
169. Angola (40.8)
170. Sierra Leone (40.8)
1. United Kingdom (123)
2. Australia (116)
3. Belgium (114)
150. Comoros (47)
151. Ghana (46)
152. Mauritania (45)
153. Sierra Leone (45)
1. Luxembourg (62,298)
2. Ireland (37,738)
3. Norway (37,670)
167. Burundi (648)
168. Tanzania, U. Rep. of (621)
169. Malawi (605)
170. Sierra Leone (548)
177. Swaziland (32.5) 173. Niger (21)
Human poverty in Sierra Leone: focusing on the most deprived in multiple dimensions of poverty
· The HDI measures the average progress of a country in human development. Human Development Report 1997 introduced the human poverty index (HPI), which focuses on the proportion of people below a threshold level in basic dimensions of human development - living a long and healthy life, having access to education, and a decent standard of living, much as the poverty headcount measures the proportion of people below a certain income level. The HPI-1 measures human poverty in developing countries.
· The HPI-1 value for Sierra Leone, 54.9%, ranks 98th among 103 developing countries for which the index has been calculated.
HPI-1 rank
(103 countries) HPI-1 value
(%)
Sierra Leone 98 54.9
Best performer in Sub-Saharan Africa (Mauritius) 24 11.4
Worst performer in Sub-Saharan Africa (Niger) 103 64.4
Best performer in the world (Uruguay) 1 3.6
Worst performer in the world (Niger) 103 64.4
Building the capabilities of women
GDI rank
(140 countries) GDI value
HDI rank
minus
GDI rank HDI value
Sierra Leone 139 0.279 0 0.298
Best performer in Sub-Saharan Africa (Mauritius) 54 0.781 -1 0.791
Worst performer in Sub-Saharan Africa (Niger) 140 0.271 0 0.281
Best performer in the world (Norway) 1 0.960 0 0.963
Worst performer in the world (Niger) 140 0.271 0 0.281
The HDI measures average achievements in a country, but it does not incorporate the degree of gender imbalance in these achievements. The gender-related development index (GDI), introduced in Human Development Report 1995, measures achievements in the same dimensions using the same indicators as the HDI but captures inequalities in achievement between women and men. It is simply the HDI adjusted downward for gender inequality. The greater the gender disparity in basic human development, the lower is a country's GDI relative to its HDI.
· The GDI value for Sierra Leone ranks 139th, with a value of 0.279.
The gender empowerment measure (GEM) reveals whether women take an active part in economic and political life. It focuses on gender inequality in key areas of economic and political participation and decision-making. It tracks the share of seats in parliament held by women; of female legislators, senior officials and managers; and of female professional and technical workers- and the gender disparity in earned income, reflecting economic independence. Differing from the GDI, the GEM exposes inequality in opportunities in selected areas.
· The GEM value for Sierra Leone can not be calculated because some data are missing.
Seats in parliament held by women
(% of total) Female administrators and managers
(% of total) Female professional and technical workers
(% of total) Estimated female earned income
(PPP US$) Ratio of female earned income to male earned
income
1. Rwanda (45.3)
2. Sweden (45.3)
3. Norway (38.2)
73. Israel (15.0)
74. Angola (15.0)
75. United States (14.8)
76. Sierra Leone (14.5)
1. Philippines (58.1)
2. Fiji (50.6)
3. Tanzania, U. Rep. of (49.1)
4. United States (45.9)
5. Barbados (44.9)
6. Bahamas (40.4)
1. Barbados (71.3)
2. Lithuania (69.7)
3. Estonia (69.2)
4. Mongolia (65.6)
5. Moldova, Rep. of (65.5)
6. Russian Federation (64.5)
1. Luxembourg (34,890)
2. Norway (32,272)
3. United States (29,017)
151. Malawi (486)
152. Guinea-Bissau (466)
153. Yemen (413)
154. Sierra Leone (325)
1. Kenya (0.93)
2. Switzerland (0.90)
3. Cambodia (0.76)
112. Brazil (0.43)
113. Georgia (0.42)
114. Venezuela (0.42)
115. Sierra Leone (0.42)
162. Yemen (0.3) 85. Pakistan (2.4) 86. Saudi Arabia (6.4) 154. Oman (0.19)
Sierra Leone in the report
Sierra Leone was mentioned in the report in pages 159, 160, 161, 162, 163, 166, 167, 168, 170, 172, 173, 174, 175, 176, 181, 20, 82 and 90 .
Subject: Re: CRY FREETOWN(sierra leone rank 176 out of 177)
From: BUFORD HWY
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Date Posted: 06:41:54 05/24/07 ()
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John Leigh,
Sir, we are wanting for you to dispute these FACTS,and not your usual DEM SAY.Since your SLPP party took over the nation for the past 10yrs,our country has gone up to 177 in the HDI report.What a tragedy for Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: CRY FREETOWN(sierra leone rank 176 out of 177)
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Date Posted: 07:01:23 05/24/07 ()
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And Mr Leigh once wrote that BEREWA was rejoicing for salone.
Subject: WHAT IS WRONG WITH US?
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Date Posted: 21:36:21 05/23/07 ()
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If Sierra-Leoneans can contribute thousands of dollars to political parties, why are we not also raising money for agricultural , educational and other activites?
If APC can raise $200,000 in Maryland, SLPP can raise $200,000 , and PMDC a similar amount just for politicians who have ruined that country since independence, then something is wrong with us. We are not a serious people.
The vigour and enthussiasm we show for politics is alarming. What is wrong with us? I remeber attending an event featuring the Refugee All stars in new York, and there were only two Sierra-Leoneans in the entire gathering. When the salone health programme also had their fund raising event, no saloneman showed up, but they will pledge thousands of dollars to prop up failed politicians.
Subject: Re: WHAT IS WRONG WITH US?
From: Broda Man
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Mi Broda.....nar so we dae o....so so big tok en lie lie politician dem
Subject: On Yenga-response to Mr. Leigh
From: Alie Formeh Kamara
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Date Posted: 21:33:37 05/23/07 ()
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Mr. Leigh
Thank you for responding to my posting. I take it that if you were President of Sierra Leone you would employ the same do nothing approach of Pa Kabba. I suspect that it is this same approach that Berewa is following. It begs for the conclusion that you are birds of the same feather.
Mr. Leigh, our national security has been transgressed by foreign nationals professing to be our brothers. Our people are weeping and like a dagger through our heart the pain is excrutiating and our veins are feeling the stress and our energy is been depleted as our breath is been slowly taken away.
In this state of affair do you want to tell me that the only recourse is quiet diplomacy. Mr. leigh the diplomacy you alluding to is so quite that it is almost deafening.
What I would like to know is whether the Government of Sierra Leone has set up a bipartisan group to study the issue of Yenga and to articulate on startegies for regaining the captured territory. Please tell me that there is such a group or commission and I would give the government credit for that on my score card.
I expected the government of Sierra Leone, given the gravity of the guinean offense, to curtail diplomatic relations with Guinea to a bare minimum, to announce the suspension of Sierra Leone's participation in the Manor River Union until further notice, and to temporarily ban cross border activities between the two countries.
Mr. Leigh these measures are rational strategic measures designed to send a message that we would not stand for foreign occupation of our land.
In case you did not know this, I was one of those who gave credit to Pa Kabba for the amount of noise he made internationally when Sierra Leone was under seige by the RUF. Why the deafening silence now? Why is the issue not raised in every African organizational meeting and at the United Nations. Why should Sierra Leone be playing soccer with Guinea instead of trying to get Guinea expelled from the African cup? Mr. Leigh your government's quiet diplomacy is really deafening.
Does Pa Kabba expect that the SLPP will be returned to power in 2007 and that Berewa will continue his do nothing approach?
The following statement was made by you: 'Mr. Ernest Koroma's ploy to raise the profile of Yenga to boost his flagging campaign for president is interesting but wholly disingenuous as he can't do anything practical about the Yenga situation any more than Prez Kabbah is doing right now - except for him to degenerate into PMDC-style empty yap-yap...'
It goes to show that the SLPP government is bankrupt with ideas. On the contrary, Ernest or Margai can do much more than simply 'yap yap'. First a good leader must understand that he or she is serving at the will of the people and that transparency is paramount for good governance. Mr. Leigh what you call quiet diplomacy is do nothing secrecy. In about seven days Pa Kabba's term of office will expire and he would have achieved nothing as far as the Yenga issue is concerned. How do you expect us to believe that he had a constructive approach to solving the Yenga issue and that his opponents on the other hand have no better solution.
Mr. Leigh, please know that there are values to each of the actions i suggested above. No sane and concerned leader would sit idly, dine with an aggressor and laugh and play with an agressor while its citizens are in anguish and filled with utter dissappointment by its do nothing government.
Lets call a spade a spade. The government is a disgrace and Pa Kabba really dissappointed the SLPP and the people of Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: On Yenga-response to Mr. Leigh
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Date Posted: 22:02:19 05/23/07 ()
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"I expected the government of Sierra Leone, given the gravity of the guinean offense, to curtail diplomatic relations with Guinea to a bare minimum, to announce the suspension of Sierra Leone's participation in the Manor River Union until further notice, and to temporarily ban cross border activities between the two countries.Why should Sierra Leone be playing soccer with Guinea instead of trying to get Guinea expelled from the African cup?"
Have you considered the ramifications to the ordinary people if these actions are taken by the government? The recent hulabo in Guinea caused a lot of problems for traders in salone.Note that the gov't in Guinea is very unstable, and soldiers are presently on strike shooting at civilians and government officials. We must be very careful with the way we go about handling this issue. I want Guinea to get the heck out, but we must also realise that some of their soldiers died in Sierra-leone during our war. Some of them even died in yenga when they were battling the RUF.
The war is now over, and it is time for them to quit, but we must be very careful not to blow up this situation.
And by the way leave politics out of sport.How can Guinea be expelled from the nations cup because of a border conflict with salone? Why did Ernest not visit Yenga all along? This thing has been going on for over three years now. As the opposition leader in parliament, he should have visited Koindu a long time ago, and start providing solutions. I know Ernest has good intentions, but when you start shouting about Yenga and visiting Yenga only two months to elections, it becomes suspicious that iit is all about politics.
Subject: Re: On Yenga-response to Mr. Leigh
From: Alie Formeh Kamara
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Date Posted: 22:42:48 05/23/07 ()
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No. You dont keep politics out of sports. I hope you are not using the word 'politics' as the common man uses the word in every day speaking. The racist and those in support of apartheid used the same expression decades ago when a South African Rugby team was in America to play ball. They argued that politics should be kept out of sports but we simply said NO. Every pressure should be applied on the South African apartheid government to free our people from bondage. We won and South Africa is free today.
Go to the news archives to see how politics have been applied in almost every facet of international relations between countries as a leverage where human right issues are at stake.
Your call to free sports from politics is simply a vain attempt to maintain the statusquo of a do-nothing approach to the Yenga issue.
That Guinean soldiers died when trying to free Sierra Leone is no reason to split our country into two and take half for themselves. Yourself and John Leigh have attempted to use this rather lame argument as a justification for Guinean Robin Hood or Ali Baba action on Sierra Leone. As I recall, under Siaka Stevens, Sierra Leone and Guinea entered into a defense pact enabling each country to come to the other's aid when there is trouble. I do not recall statement about reparation for losses during such activity. It was a mutual agreement. Besides, what precedent does Guinea want to set if African countries should now pay themselves for comming to the aid of a sister nation.
You ought to be ashamed of yourselves for insinuating that it is rational that Guinea should take such an action.
My suggested actions are options that should be weighed and the option with the greatest impact should be carried out. Every action may have ramifications for Sierra Leone. That is the nature of the beast. But in defense of our mother land we must position ourselves in such a way that we take necessary action to protect our citizens. No one is free in Sierra Leone untill all of us are free.
Subject: For a vote against corruption, SENGBE, where are you?
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 18:38:18 05/23/07 ()
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Here is
Subject: Re: For a vote against corruption, SENGBE, where are you?
From: Cornelius
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Here we are singing
Subject: Who is for Sierra Leone or Self?
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 17:03:55 05/23/07 ()
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Greetings my brothers and sisters. Since 1997, I have been a constant participant in the various Sierra Leonean Forums, some of which comprise various age groups, educational backgrounds but all include Sierra Leoneans residing in all parts of the globe particularly, Europe and the Americas. Through my Sociological and Psychological investigation, I have learned many things about the various groups of peoples in these forums or settings, if you will. But what is distinguished in this assessment is the manner by which Sierra Leonean issues are discussed and the potential for any positive result to be effected and which group's approach might have the likelihood to deliver these positive, organized results and why.
One essential phenomenon that came to mind or was observed in this exercise is that what most of us consider the stake we hold and the benefit we expect from our participation in the sociopolitical discuss and the reasons behind the methods we adopt to achieving our goals is encouraging for some but far removed from anything national rather personal for others; for the latter, a method that had been in use for many years in our socio-political arena, which is more of seclusion to satisfy personal vendettas, anger, vehement attacks on one another rather than civil discuss because of the stake we presume we hold or the benefits we desire rather than a quest for national uplift.
But as a patriot who believes in learning or teaching through comparative observation, sensitization, decentralization and collectivism, I thought it is my duty to continue to fight for Sierra Leone through inclusion by adopting the aforementioned idealism.
Bellow is a sample of another forum, which reading through both forums in comparison to the many others, in a quest to adopting the said idealism, one would find out characteristically, the evidence that clearly outlines the difference in desires, approach and methodology initiated by these differing settings to achieving "national interest;" when compared to global politics in developed countries therefore, one sees a potential for repetitive stigma in this comparative differences and a potential for real adaptation to gradualistic urge for concrete change that will benefit Sierra Leone as done in the said countries.
Please find time to read, sit quietly and asses the similarities and differences. If one does not find differences in informative global approach, look carefully, compare the best approach to developed countries and tell the audience why the best approach you have detected will or will not go to benefit Sierra Leone, bearing in mind the path to our ten-to-eleven-years-brutal-civil-war and ask yourself why you wouldn't want to adopt the best approach?
As educated people, I implore you to give this a careful consideration and I thank you. It is time for change in the right direction for a country we all love, why not embrace the change, which is the best in style these days?
Subject: EVALUATION AND CONTRACT AWARD SUMMARY : Construction of 8 Lo
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Date Posted: 16:35:58 05/23/07 ()
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EVALUATION AND CONTRACT AWARD SUMMARY : Construction of 8 Local Council Offices
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EVALUATION AND CONTRACT AWARD SUMMARY
Name of Project: Institutional Reform and Capacity Building Project
Project ID: P078613
Contract Descr1ption: Construction of 8 Local Council Offices (IRCBP/NCB/06/01-08)
Contract Signature Date: 7 May 2007
LOT 1: Bo City Council
Awarded Bidder
Name of Awarded Bidder
Bid Price at bid Opening for Lot 1
Final Bid Price
Hariss Construction
SLL 807,108,000
SLL 865,762,500
Evaluated Bidders
Name of Evaluated Bidder
Bid Price at bid Opening for Lot 1
Final Bid Price
Hariss Construction
SLL 807,108,000
SLL 865,762,500
Nationwide Logistics
SLL 881,307,000
SLL 882,602,000
Global Network
SLL 943,280,000
SLL 943,280,000
Subject: OUR CHILDREN, SIERRA LEONE'S FUTURE
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 15:37:00 05/23/07 ()
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Recently, Sierra Leone gave it blessing to the long-awaited dual-citizenship law. Whatever motivating forces were responsible for it provision, politics and the economy must have topped the list.
It is interesting, however, to know how many beneficiaries of this opportunity, be they politicians, business people or social activists, who might have relocated or plan to relocate,in ordrer to make good out of this opportunity?
Meanwhile, regardless of who might take advantage of this opportunity or not, it must be safe now to introduce legislation that will provide similar, if not identical, opportunities to Sierra Leonean-born children in the diaspora.
Unlike the old, tired, retired, "previously owned", used, refurbished, watermellon and wannabe
politicians that are now returning home, our kids carry with them less baggages. They are comparatively
and generally better educated than their parents; immune to the malignant dictates to tribalism; and most important, their social and political influences within their current domain is something their parents can probably only dream of.
These social and political advantages of our children in the diaspora MUST be taken advantage of to better serve Salone. The Jews at AIPAC knows this better than anyone. Spanish-speaking Americans during these coming immigaration-sensitive '08 elections are currently flexing the muscles of their "anchor babies". African-Americans? Well, there are not too many of them we can count on. Even Jesse Jackson thought Foday Sankoh was a good guy. Why? Because Jesse may know more about American politics, but less about Sierra Leonean politics.
Finally, the question, however, is how do we get our diaspora-born children to embrace anything Sierra Leone? I must first confess, like many parents, my 15 and 13-year-old girls will be the first to exhibit the usual stereotypes you hear from ignorant Americans. But that was then! Through education, thanks to the internet, these kids are more than proud to tell their peers that they are a second generation Americans who's parents originated from Africa. It was the 13-year-old
who saw an article online about Africans in the United States who are comparatively more prepared for college than even the celebrated Asians. These kids I can tell you are not only the children of Sierra Leoneans, but are Sierra Leoneans at heart.
Subject: Rosenior takes over Sierra Leone
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Date Posted: 15:28:30 05/23/07 ()
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Rosenior takes over Sierra Leone
Mohamed Fajah Barrie
BBC Sport, Freetown
Rosenior was sacked as Brentford manager in November 2006
England-based coach Leroy Rosenior has been appointed to take charge of Sierra Leone's national team for their next two international matches.
The former Sierra Leone international will be at the helm of the Leone Stars for the Nations Cup qualifiers against Togo and Mali.
"If I like the way things are run and the two matches go well, the move could become permanent," Rosenior told BBC Sport.
Sierra Leone FA administrative secretary Abu Bakarr Kabba says Rosenior will be assisted by former Brentford coach Paul Mortimer.
"Trainer Paul Mortimer will travel with Rosenior to Freetown on 28 May to start work," said Kabba.
Rosenior's first game in charge will be at home on 3 June against Togo in the Group Nine tie.
He replaces John Jebbor Sherington who will now be part of the new Leone Stars technical team.
The former West Ham player Rosenior was in charge of Leone Stars when they defeated English League One side Leyton Orient 3-2 in a friendly in London earlier this month.
Confusion still surrounds his future with Conference-bound Torquay United after the club issued contrasting statements over his position as manager.
Rosenior had reportedly lost his job within just 10 minutes of being appointed last Thursday after chairman Mike Bateson sold the club.
But managing director Debbie Hancox insists the former Brentford manager is still at the helm.
Rosenior has only one cap after playing for Sierra Leone in a Nations Cup qualifier against Togo in 1993.
Subject: NDA SPEAKD THE TRUTH
From: ALHAJI AMADU BOI JALLOH
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Date Posted: 14:46:44 05/23/07 ()
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"The NDA leader stated that the All People’s Congress (APC), the Sierra Leone People’s Party (SLPP) and the People’s Movement for Democratic Change (PMDC) were the same “bread and butter moving from one party to another, fooling the masses”.
The PMDC and the APC, he stressed further, had merged because they had the same passengers crossing from one party to another, dubbing them as “people who have no moral values." Alhaji Jalloh
Subject: Re: NDA SPEAKD THE TRUTH
From: Almamy Seray-Wurie Si
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Date Posted: 17:20:37 05/23/07 ()
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What about Ambassador Alhaji Amadu Jalloh?
He was APC Ambassador to Saudi Arabia and All Araboula, also his actions when AFRC took over SL spoke all...
Yandi Kortoh Archeeh
Subject: INSIDE VIEW OF NASSIT MAKENI OFFICE
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INSIDE VIEW OF NASSIT MAKENI OFFICE
Subject: NASSIT OFFICE IN BO
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NASSIT REGIONAL OFFICE IN BO
Subject: NASSIT OFFICE IN KENEMA
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NASSIT REGIONAL OFFICE IN KENEMA
Subject: NASSIT OFFICE IN MAKENI
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NASSIT NEW REGIONAL OFFICE IN MAKENI
Subject: THE "CHIEF IN EXILE" WILL RETURN TO THE FORUM SOON.
From: CHIEFDOM SPOKESWOMAN
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Date Posted: 13:13:53 05/23/07 ()
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The Chief had to take time off from the forum because of his very busy schedule. THE CHIEF WILL RETURN SOON
Subject: Countdown to Athens: tickets for four thousand euros
From: Liverpool-Milan BBC source
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Last Updated: Wednesday, 23 May 2007, 09:05 GMT 10:05 UK
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1715: "I had a premonition that I will be repeating these words tonight: Carlo Ancelotti, Prime Minister Berlusconi, Dino Zoff, Roberto Baggio, Enzo Ferrari, Leonardo da Vinci, Christopher Columbus, Luciano Pavarotti, Don Vito Corleone, Tony Soprano... your boys took one hell of a beating."
From 606
A lesson in how to twist one of the most famous sporting commentaries. Oddly, no mention of Rocky Balboa - the Italian Stallion. Missed a trick there, fella.
1705: More from the great ticket debate:
"My husband has just been offered 3000 Euros for his ticket and he turned it down."
"My mate bought a ticket for 700 Euros from a guy he sat next to on the flight out there. Bargain." Both via text on 81111
1651: "Which team has home colours?"
Via text on 81111
AC Milan won the toss and are the home team, technically, but they chose to play in play in white, so Liverpool will play in red.
It has made a Liverpool-supporting colleague here very happy, as he says Liverpool have a good record against teams playing in white in European finals - and in fact, all five of their victories came against opponents in white!
However, Milan have won five of their six European titles while wearing white. So something has to give.
1645: "Just offered £2,000 (seriously) to a Liverpool fan with a ticket and he rejected it. Should I offer more or would that just be ridiculous? Give me your thoughts."
Via text on 81111
1636: "I'll be watching the match with all the other English ex-pats in the Robin Hood pub in Bermuda! Just need to come up with an excuse to get out of the office at 1500. Any recommended excuses would be appreciated!"
Via text on 81111
Just how appreciated? The best excuse is rewarded with an all-expenses paid trip to Bermuda, perhaps?
1635: "Just sold my ticket for £2,500. I hope we lose now."
Via text on 81111
Charming. I doubt the buyer agrees with your sentiments.
1630: "The atmosphere here in Athens is amazing. The place is buzzing, all here to see the mighty Reds come through. Word is, Kewell is starting."
Via text on 81111
1623: "£2 was the maximum bet allowed on a repeat of the 2005 final, although most of the bookies have stopped taking bets on that. Lucky I got mine on in time!"
Subject: Look at some of the corrupt names behind Berewa
From: Big secret
To: All
Date Posted: 12:13:39 05/23/07 ()
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After this short note of mine, forumites will see a name below which is synonymous with rogue. He was held for a large amount of money he milked from Port Authority as a worker. I know that Hoodie Conteh was one time had problem with the law. I am waiting for the blind SLPP supporters to refute this claim.
This is the Sierra Leone Berewa wants to rule as all the kleptomaniac joined the cue to plunder the Country.
The game of lies will be over and Berewa must know that the pattern to eliminate and destroy others will not work this time.
What is the change this SLPP has brought these past twelve years? What we are seeing is the same corrupt politicians, civil servants and businessmen recyled as long as they do not mess with support for Berewa they are free to chop government and international tax payers money.
Who will argue that the people the SLPP has made to be hungred will elect Berewa?. Only fools and stooges and friends at the corridor of power?
Giving the overview of the Party’s activities, a representative for Constituency 104, Hoodie Conteh, said YASSOB was an organisation formed to support the vice president.Mr. Conteh said they had organized several activities in the community to push development forward.
Mr. Conteh maintained that several cleaning programmes have been organized by the organisation and they have also provided employment for youths which the party had been sponsoring.
Subject: Re: Look at some of the corrupt names behind Berewa
From: BUFORD HWY
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Date Posted: 07:47:35 05/24/07 ()
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Big Secret,
What we have here is a classic case of BLACKMAIL by the Berewa SLPP party.Pa Hoodie Conteh was framed by the SLPP govt for crimes he did not commit,and the only way the Berewa SLPP can stay off his back,is by being part off their corrupt group,because they (SLPP) know that the people of constituency 104 loves PA HOODIE CONTEH very much and SLPP is counting on him to deliver the 104 to them.We all know that this man was one of the most vocal SUN SUPPORTER,but when these cases were brought upon him,he was paralized from all his businesses.
Subject: Re: Look at some of the corrupt names behind Berewa
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 13:44:48 05/23/07 ()
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Give understanding to those who cannot read: Which name is it that is synonymous with "Rogue". Speak plainly.
Subject: Re: Look at some of the corrupt names behind Berewa
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 13:55:15 05/23/07 ()
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ROTFLMMFAO. Bo ow you tan so ba
Subject: Re: Look at some of the corrupt names behind Berewa
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 18:11:40 05/23/07 ()
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two of a kind
Subject: LOOKING AT THE CURRENT STATE OF AFFAIRS ARE WE BETTER OF
From: OUR MONEY
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Date Posted: 11:49:14 05/23/07 ()
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Read the link and tell me if Sa Lone is better of than 15 years ago.
Subject: President Kabbah to host British, Nigerian and Liberian Head
From: LEADER
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Date Posted: 09:56:16 05/23/07 ()
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President Kabbah to host British, Nigerian and Liberian Heads of Government
The President of the Republic of Sierra Leone, Dr. Ahmad Tejan would reportedly host his counterparts from Britain, Nigeria and Liberia, Prime Minister Tony Blair; Presidents Olusengun Obasanjo and Ellen Johnson Sirleaf respectively.
The visits which would take place at different dates will commence with the arrival of the Nigerian President over the weekend, while the British out-going Prime Minister and the Liberian Head of State would touch down on 26 and 30 June respectively. Among other functions, the Nigerian statesman would officially open an institute at Newton in the outskirts of Freetown, named after him. The report in the Sierra News fall short of detailing the purpose of the visits of the other two heads of Government.
Subject: Opposition leader encourages supporters to respect Rule of L
From: LEADER
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Date Posted: 09:55:26 05/23/07 ()
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Opposition leader encourages supporters to respect Rule of Law
The leader of the opposition United National Peoples Party (UNPP) has called on his supporters to respect the Rule of Law, noting that the politics of violence would only dent the image of the country. Professor Abdul K. Karim also appealed to his fellow politicians to practice the principles of Democracy by giving equal opportunity to people who have the determination to develop the country. “I do not believe in the politics of insult.
We are all Sierra Leoneans; and I have friends in the SLPP, APC and PMDC and we meet and discuss issues pertinent to the country’s development” he is quoted as saying by Concord Times. He particularly underscored lack of respect for the rule of law and corruption as two key factors that led to the civil war in Sierra Leone.
Subject: 8 more days- "I will have reached my term limit in May, 2007
From: Olu Beckley
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Date Posted: 09:47:43 05/23/07 ()
Email Address: mariamab@aol.com
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8 more days- "I will have reached my term limit in May, 2007".
Subject: Re: 8 more days- "I will have reached my term limit in May, 2007
From: HOUSING MANGER
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Date Posted: 09:58:17 05/23/07 ()
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Read the constitution, Housing manager. The president can stay up to ninety days in office after his official term ends in May so that elections can be conducted.He will stay till August when the elections are held, and a new president is sworn in.
Subject: Re: 8 more days- "I will have reached my term limit in May, 2007
From: Olu Beckley
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Date Posted: 10:12:39 05/23/07 ()
Email Address: mariamab@aol.com
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Thanks for your clarification. We will still continue with the count-down anyway.
Subject: QUOTE OF THE YEAR
From: Joe Kaindaneh
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Date Posted: 06:11:03 05/23/07 ()
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"The question that traitors like you, John Leigh, have not answered is: How can the suffering of the people of Salone be stopped by continuing the tenure of the same SLPP regime for the next five years which has caused their suffering during the past 10 years?"
Subject: Re: DOMBOLO QUOTE OF THE YEAR
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 13:52:34 05/23/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Below is the copy of my response:
"Posted by John E. Leigh on May 23, 2007 at 12:46:57:
In Reply to: Re: REBUTTAL OF THE WEEK posted by Joe Kaindaneh on May 23, 2007 at 06:06:41:
Mr. John Kaindaneh:
Thank you very much for clearly answering my question. I am grateful. And as you claim, it is quite possible that you are far more intelligent than me (and others as well) but I am NOT admitting to such as yet. Let me first see how you continue to debate!
In the meantime, my point to you is that upon its democratic assumption of office, SLPP met those problems you have identified and much more. The RUF, the AFRC/RUF junta caused more destruction and huge damage. The Administration is on the job trying hard to solve them to make our country a much better place but Rome was not built in a day and the government does not have all the resources to solve each and every problem simultaneously as some demand.
Because of prior mal-governance and destruction, our government is on the dole but it is quickly building up a sustainable revenue base to develop Sierra Leone.
And even at that, SLPP is not 100% yet but it is aiming to get there as early as practicable. But the fact is the opposition parties and their presidential candidates are far inferior to the SLPP and Solo B.
One presidential candidate is very nice but quite dull and was a peggy boy to Sahid Jamil - the man APC President Siaka Stevens put in charge of DIMINCO and thus our official diamond exports. Stevens then put Jamil in charge of this our aspirant. We know what the Jamil arrangements did for our country.
The other aspirant equally lacks intellectual vigor but tries to make up for his deficiencies by yap-yap talk, some in irrelevant Latin to fool empty-headed impressionable junior tribalists and poor villagers.
He is also said to be a notorious alphabet-soup opportunist (being at one time or the other a member of SLPP, PNP, SLPP, APC, SLPP, NUP, SLPP, NUP, SLPP, resigned SLPP applied back to rejoin SLPP then split to form the PMDC), with an under-achieving background who seems to depend on yap-yap talk and double-crossing others as his key political tactics. He has now turned out to be a poor, poor decision-maker who is making a whole host of dombolo decisions and in a self-fish secretive one-manic way.
The lack of talent behind such decisions clearly is indicative of the disaster ahead should he ever gain the presidency. Thank God he is far, far from that goal!
Besides, his new privately-owned party is full of such characters as low grade san san, one-grain or wan-grain man, multiple moniker abusers, bangucrooks, tiff-tiff disbarred lawyers, junior tribalists and an assortment of dubious characters.
The other opposition party is populated by KDDA/Ekutay hegemonistic tribalistic marginalizers, poverty-spreaders, frolickers, destroyers of national wealth through the constructive expulsion of employers-producers-tax payers on one hand; and the importer of poverty, suffering, zero-maintenance of electrical machinery, waterworks, buses, government vehicles, roads, the national stadium and public buildings and the magnifier and promoter of corrupt practices and mal-governance for 26 years.
Again, SLPP is not yet 100% but we hope to get there as we keep on winning free, fair and wholly democratic elections after elections on and on. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: QUOTE OF THE YEAR
From: Joe Kaindaneh
To: All
Date Posted: 06:05:46 05/24/07 ()
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Mr. Leigh:
Thank you for your attempted answer to my question (How can the 10-year suffering inflicted by the SLPP upon the people of Salone end if the SLPP's rule is not ended?"
Predictably, your answer fails to answer my question. That is not surprising, because you are loathe to admit the inescapable truth: That the suffering of the people of Salone under the SLPP will only end when the SLPP misrule is itself ended by voting the SLPP out of office in August.
Your attempts to insulate the SLPP from its sorry record are doomed from the beginning. All you have to do to recognize the futility of citing the civil war as an excuse for the SLPP's gargantuan incompetence is to compare it with the NPRC.
Like the SLPP, the NPRC faced a civil war from all the warreing parties you named. Yet, unlike the SLPP, the NPRC continued to provide the people of Salone with electricity, potable water, clean streets free of mountains of garbage, medicines, jobs and hope. However, the SLPP has failed to provide any of those benefits to the people. Worse still, the SLPP has failed to deliver services to the people of Salone, even though, unlike the NPRC, the SLPP has received more than $100 million from Britain alone, and more than $1 billion in debt relief.
In short, the SLPP failed to provide services to the people of Salone that the NPRC was able to provide, despite the fact that the SLPP has received more aid from foreign entities than all the previous governments of Salone combined.
Based on those facts, it is very clear that the SLPP is the most incomptenet and corrupt government Salone has ever had. In short, the SLPP is the worst government in the history of Salone.
That is why the SLPP must be voted out of power if the people of Salone are to emerge from the needless suffering that the SLPP has inflicted upon them over the past 10 years.
Subject: Re: QUOTE OF THE YEAR
From: John Venn
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Date Posted: 10:36:30 05/23/07 ()
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The answer is that it can't. The choice facing our people is this: Do you want to continue suffering or not?
That is why the SLPP must go, if Sierra Leoneans want to stop their suffering. No two words about it.
Subject: Re: QUOTE OF THE YEAR
From: Advice
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Date Posted: 07:52:46 05/23/07 ()
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"How can the suffering of the people of Salone be stopped by continuing the tenure of the same SLPP regime for the next five years which has caused their suffering during the past 10 years?"
Very well put. I tell you, this is the best argument for kicking the SLPP out of power. If I was the APC or the PMDC, it would be my headline slogan when campaigning to persuade the people to vote against the SLPP in August.
PMDC and APC, this should be your campaign slogan. It is short, to the point, and sweet.
Subject: Re: QUOTE OF THE YEAR
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 08:28:29 05/23/07 ()
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Amputess won't vote?
http://www.uniosil.org/read.asp?newsID=407
Still controversial
http://trcsierraleone.org/drwebsite/publish/v3b-c7.shtml
It's in the history books:
Part of the APC PRESENTATION - TUESDAY 5TH AUGUST 2003
To
TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION COMMISSION
• The President's inability to halt rampant corruption in SLPP governance makes the government an accomplice to massive destruction of our national economy. Instead of minimizing corruption, it is now a sad reality that corruption is growing in size and sophistication on a daily basis.
• He pitched the mono-ethnic SLPP Kamajor Militia against the Sierra Leone Armed Forces thereby escalating the civil war.
• He announced the disbanding of the regular army thus pushing he soldiers to join forces with the rebels.
• He appointed Chief Hinga Norman as Deputy Minister of Defense being fully aware that Norman was Commander of the Kamajor Militia that was fighting the Army.
• President Kabbah made a statement in Makeni that the North should apologize to the rest of the country because Foday Sankoh, the RUF Leader has a northern name and is said to have hailed from the North. This unfortunate statement caused great resentment among northerners who saw it not only as a poor effort to disguise the real origin of the RUF but also as a deliberate attempt to create a regional divide and fan ethnic animosity. We hope that now that President Kabbah and the whole country know the truth about who really are the RUF, he wills graciously apologies for this unfortunate and annoying statement.
• When President Kabbah was in Guinea in 1997, he informed the world that all those Sierra Leonean who stayed behind when he was toppled in a coup were rebels and 'collaborators'. Let me ask in all seriousness, did President Kabbah honestly believe that all the Sierra Leoneans including Doctors, Teachers, Nurses, Policemen, Soldiers, Electricity Workers and Central Bank officials, Should all have abandoned the country and troop after him into Guinea? Worse still, he created further misery for Sierra Leoneans he left in Guinea when he returned to Sierra Leone by also labelling them as rebels. This statement prompted the Guinean authorities to unleash unprecedented violence against these unfortunate Sierra Leoneans.
• The President's inability to halt rampant corruption in SLPP governance makes the government an accomplice to massive destruction of our national economy. Instead of minimizing corruption, it is now a sad reality that corruption is growing in size and sophistication on a daily basis.
Subject: Re: QUOTE OF THE YEAR
From: Amadu
To: All
Date Posted: 09:56:47 05/23/07 ()
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"It's in the history books:
Part of the APC PRESENTATION - TUESDAY 5TH AUGUST 2003
To
TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION COMMISSION
• The President's inability to halt rampant corruption in SLPP governance makes the government an accomplice to massive destruction of our national economy. Instead of minimizing corruption, it is now a sad reality that corruption is growing in size and sophistication on a daily basis.
Bra Cornie:
Thanks for adding to the historical record of corruption of the SLPP.
These blind SLPP supporters are fond of pretending that they can see what's wrong with Sierra Leone. The truth is that their SLPP govt. is corrupt -- which of course they can't see because they are blind supporters.
Subject: A Vote Against Corruption
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 06:06:22 05/23/07 ()
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TODAY is the first day of SHAVUOT
http://www.google.se/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4ADBR_enSE222SE222&q=SHAVUOT&btnG=Search
In my next posting, I am going to present a portrait of Hon Ernest Bai Koroma’s ANTI-
CORRUPTION stand. I have never met him or any of his supporters or talked to them, so my portrayal will be entirely based on what I can get from Sierra Leone papers on the internet.
As I was saying, Mr. Kabbah who knows all about Rahman and Rahim was appealed to spare the lives of the twenty-four Sierra Leone soldiers, but he must have thought of these executions as a deterrent to anyone wanting to shake him from power by gunfire, and to hell with mercy. He must have thought that he Kabbah would be better off alive, if the young men were dead. He did not hear their mothers’ pleas. My personal conclusion was that he must be a very determined and hard-hearted old nut.
It was therefore natural to expect that he would wage a ruthless war on corruption, the bane of the country that he loves, our Sierra Leone.
Who would have thought that he would have turned out to be a toothless chimpanzee as commander-in-chief in his so called “war” against corruption?
His numerous speeches have highlighted this problem that leads to our arrested development, and whilst it is true that the country has made progress in many areas, if they could be much more serious about curbing corruption in their own offices, the nation would progress much faster. They know this. Then why are they dragging their feet? They are dragging their feet, because they are part of it (the corruption) and as Mr. Kabbah has admitted – repeatedly.
Some of his admissions as to the extent of corruption and the effects of corruption on Sierra Leone are in these entries:
http://www.google.se/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4ADBR_enSE222SE222&q=Kabbah+says+corruption+is+everywhere+in+the+country
It’s now a matter of scale, and from where I am sitting just now, I conclude that the level of corruption and the level of money involved is a few thousand percent more than what it was during Sir Albert Margia’s time. The Beoku-Betts Commission was not idle for the simple reason that there was a lot of evidence to work on. If my memory serves me correctly, then Maigore Kallon refunded £18,000, of disputed money, and that was a lot of money in those days.
Military coups throughout the African continent have been usually motivated by wanting to overthrow democratically elected corruption, when that corruption became entrenched, notably in Ghana and Nigeria.
In Bangladesh, it led to the military taking over this year and instituting the following quite predictable measure of the type that has brought joy to citizens who know : On 2nd May, 20007, the BBC reported this:
Bangladesh corruption cases due
Special courts in Bangladesh will begin hearing corruption cases against politicians and businessmen next week, the authorities say.
The anti-corruption commission says 19 courts will be set up. So far five judges have been appointed.
The courts will be housed at the national parliament complex.
More than 150 politicians and businessmen have so far been arrested since the military-backed interim government came to power in January.
The government says the politicians and businessmen were arrested as part of its anti-corruption campaign. Bangladesh is now under a state of emergency and a caretaker administration is running the country.
Ministers of the interim government say the politicians will be disqualified from contesting the next general election if they are convicted of corruption.
The head of the interim administration says elections are expected by next year, but no date has been fixed. ”
On Monday (21st May
Jail term for Khaleda Zia adviser
One of the most important figures in the government of former Bangladesh Prime Minister Khaleda Zia has been given a three year jail sentence.
Harris Chowdhury was found guilty by a special anti-corruption court set up by Bangladesh's interim government.
The sentence has been imposed in absentia as he is in hiding. It is the first such sentence against a high-ranking politician.
The interim government has made tackling corruption its main objective.
Enormous influence
The fast track court - operating within the parliamentary complex in Dhaka - wanted Mr Chowdhury to give details of his assets amid suspicions that that he acquired much of his wealth illegally, Reuters news agency reports.
The courts started operating earlier this month to prosecute dozens of high profile political figures charged with corruption. Luxury cars have been seized and bank accounts frozen.
Two members of the Awami League have already been sentenced.
The BBC Bengali service editor Sabir Mustafa says that Mr Chowdhury was the person who controlled access to Khaleda Zia and, as such, wielded enormous influence.
He is the first member of Khaleda Zia's Bangladesh Nationalist Party (BNP) to receive a jail sentence from the anti-corruption court.
His lawyers said that he would appeal against the verdict in the High Court.
Mr Chowdhury was Khaleda Zia's political secretary during her second term as prime minister, from 2001 until October 2006.
Wrongdoing denied
He was ordered to explain his wealth by the Anti-Corruption Commission after the military-backed caretaker government took power following the imposition of a state of emergency in January.
Correspondents say that many other politicians, businessmen and civil servants were ordered to make similar submissions, and have been detained for several months.
Among those arrested are Ms Zia's influential elder son, Tarique Rahman, who was arrested in March, accused of extorting $147,000 from a construction company. He has denied wrongdoing.
Ms Zia's aides said earlier this month that she was still facing curbs on her movements. They said restrictions were in place despite government assurances that she would have freedom of movement.
They say that she has recently been suffering from ill-health and was due to go to Singapore earlier this month for treatment for high blood pressure and diabetes.
But they say that she had to postpone her visit because of a sudden deterioration in her condition and because of concerns over extortion charges filed against her younger son, Arafat Rahman.
Ms Zia's rival, Awami League leader Sheikh Hasina, returned to the country this month after the military-backed caretaker government abandoned a plan to force the two women into exile.
It said then that Ms Zia was not under house arrest, and denied allegations made by her supporters that it was trying to force her out of the country.
The caretaker government says it will hold elections by the end of 2008, giving it time first to rid the country of corruption.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/south_asia/6675899.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6530781.stm
http://www.google.se/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4ADBR_enSE222SE222&q=+2007+%3ABangladesh+military+cleans+up+corruption&btnG=Search
Subject: To JL, Albert Moinina, Cornelius, Chief, Olu B. et al
From: Alie Formeh Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 05:47:38 05/23/07 ()
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In response to the Yenga issue, Alieu Iscandri writes:
' If at some point in time you come to realise that Yenga was given to Guinea in a private agreement betwen the slpp government and the govt of lansana conte, in exchange for the use of Guinen troops against the RUF and AFRC, would you be surprised?'
Furthermore, Alieu appear to draw a connection between the Yenga issue and attempt by the SLPP government to get immunity for all SLPP government Executives.
What are your views about Yenga, the inaction of our government and the allegation that government's inaction may be due to a sell out done in secrecy. Further more do you think that Kabba should get immunity for himself and others in the government?
Subject: Re: To JL, Albert Moinina, Cornelius, Chief, Olu B. et al
From: DR. S. B. SACCOH
To: All
Date Posted: 15:07:13 05/23/07 ()
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PRESS RELEASE
TUESDAY, 1ST MAY 2007
His Excellency Alhaji Dr Ahmad Tejan Kabbah and entourage returned from Conakry today Tuesday 1st of May, at the end of a one-day summit of the Mano River Union, hosted by His Excellency General Lansana Conte, President of the Republic of Guinea and attended by Her Excellency Madam Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf, President of the Republic of Liberia and His Excellency Laureant Gbagbo, President of La Cote d'Ivoire. The Prime Minister of Guinea, Monsieur Lansana Kouyate also participated fully in the deliberations.
The Summit considered among other things, the following issues:
1 The reactivation of the Mano River Union;
2 The readmission of La Cote d'Ivoire to the Mano River Union;
3 Security within the Mano River Union sub-region; and
4 The status of Yenga.
On the reactivation of the Mano River Union, the Heads of State discussed the reorganisation of the Mano River Union Secretariat and the full resumption of its activities including budgetary support. All Member States pledged their continued commitment and financial support to the organization and discussed the modalities of seeking additional support from their donor partners to enhance the work of the organisation.
The Guinean President made a cheque of $210,000 United States dollars as part of his country's contribution to the reactivation of the organisation. Sierra Leone and Liberia promised to contribute in due course their own financial support.
The issue of readmission of La Cote d'Ivoire to the Mano River Union was also discussed. La Cote d'Ivoire was a founder member of the original West African Free Trade Area (WAFTA) which was the precursor to the Mano River Union. The current President of La Cote d'Ivoire expressed a strong desire for his country to rejoin the Mano River Union and promised to take appropriate steps to this effect shortly. The other Member States welcomed the statement of the Ivorian President.
The Heads of State next considered security in the Mano River Union and expressed concern over the lack of an early warning mechanism for al3rting security forces in the Member States, especially when one considers that dissidents have always planned operations in one country for the destabilisation of the other countries in the sub-region. They agreed that top security officials of the Member States could meet and develop a systematic plan for addressing the problem.
On the question of Yenga, the Heads of State considered a report submitted by the Technical Committee comprising the officials and civil society organisations of the Mano River Union Member States. The report stated categorically that Yenga belongs to Sierra Leone and the Heads of State during their consultation reconfirmed that position.
However, it was noted that the documentation consulted during their deliberations revealed certain inconsistencies with relation to a certain piece of land 200 meters from the West Bank of the Moa/Makona river which is currently occupied by Guinean troops. These inconsistencies arose out of the review of several documents signed in the past by British and French colonial officials, President Siaka Stevens of Sierra Leone and President Sekou Toure of Guinea, Vice President S.I. Koroma of Sierra Leone and Prime Minister Lansana Beavogue of Guinea, among others.
On this note, the current Guinean Prime Minister, Monsieur Lansana Kouyate therefore offered to visit the site referred to above at the shortest possible time so as to verify the information contained in the document. Both the President of the Republic of Liberia and the President of the Republic of Sierra Leone offered that their Vice Presidents will join the Prime Minister of Guinea to visit the site referred to above.
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Subject: Re: To JL, Albert Moinina, Cornelius, Chief, Olu B. et al
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:54:58 05/23/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Mr. Alie Formeh Kamara:
Thank you very much for seeking my opinion on the Yenga issue.
Unfortunately, I am not privy as to why the Guinean Army is still occupying the area. Last time I brought up this matter was with our Ambassador in Guinea, Dr. Sheku Saccoh, a VP aspirant. In response to my inquiry, Dr. Saccoh told me that SLeone has not abandoned Yenga at all but that, in fact, quiet diplomacy was proceeding and was hopeful of Yenga's return to SLeone sovereignty. That was early in February 2006 in Freetown.
The year before during my campaign for SLPP Leader position, I traveled to Koindu and nearby villagers in May. I met English-speaking people in the area who told me that they were once residents of Yenga but were not allowed to returned to their homes ever since after the RUF were defeated by Guinean troops. They were very unhappy with their situation as refugees in Koindu area villages and they truly wanted to return home to Yenga. They had no doubt that Yenga is Sierra Leonean territory.
In my aforementioned campaign, I pledged to work to have Yenga returned to SLeone.
What I suspect is that after the huge spilling of blood on account of the AFRC/RUF war; our weak military and our propensity for corruption and incompetence, Prez. Kabbah has not seriously considered a military option. Besides, the non-military task at hand is humongous.
There is also the fact that our government is on the dole, and lacking in spare money to do the things some people out of government frequently suggest to do about Yenga: Go to war and use military action to evict the Guineans; sue the hell out of them in the ICJ, or file a complaint at the UN Security Council, etc., etc.
Don't forget, Guinea helped us tremendously in the ultimate defeat of the AFRC/RUF coupligans and rebels. And their country is much bigger than ours and with a larger population.
Finally, given the Manu River Union area as a particularly poverty-stricken troublesome one, we ought to be patient and stick to diplomacy. It is the cheapest and most likely the approach that has the highest likelyhood of success.
Prez. Kabbah, I believe is awaiting new governments in both Guinea and Sierra Leone to gear up the diplomacy.
Meanwhile, there is free movement of people into and out of Guinea and Sierra Leone. So if one is desperate to return to Yenga for family or business reasons, there are certainly avenues available to do so. But please do not ask Sierra Leone to divert its poor resources to fight another war with a much bigger and stronger neighbor or pretend that dis or dat party can do better than the current government.
Mr. Ernest Koroma's ploy to raise the profile of Yenga to boost his flagging campaign for president is interesting but wholly disingenuous as he can't do anything practical about the Yenga situation any more than Prez Kabbah is doing right now - except for him to degenerate into PMDC-style empty yap-yap, flunkey dunce talk of "Ar go do dis. Ar go do dat, wenn ar ween!"
I believe that Yenga will come back to Sierra Leone in due course but unlikely during the current Admistration. I deeply believe that our country owes Guinea something for their valuable role in sheltering our government during the interregnun and in defeating the RUF and the AFRC Coupligans. But giving Yenga away is not the answer to that genuine debt. Thank you.
Once again, I appreciate your interest in my views. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: To JL, Albert Moinina, Cornelius, Chief, Olu B. et al
From: Alie Formeh Kamara
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Date Posted: 21:23:58 05/23/07 ()
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Mr. Leigh
Thank you for responding to my posting. I take it that if you were President of Sierra Leone you would employ the same do nothing approach of Pa Kabba.
I suspect that it is this same approach that Berewa is following. It begs for the conclusion that you are birds of the same feather.
Mr. Leigh, our national security has been transgressed by foreign nationals professing to be our brothers. Our people are weeping and like a dagger through our heart the pain is excrutiating and our veins are feeling the stress and our energy is been depleted as our breath is been slowly taken away.
In this state of affair do you want to tell me that the only recourse is quiet diplomacy. Mr. leigh the diplomacy you alluding to is so quite that it is almost deafening.
What I would like to know is whether the Government of Sierra Leone has set up a bipartisan group to study the issue of Yenga and to articulate on startegies for regaining the captured territory. Please tell me that there is such a group or commission and I would give the government credit for that on my score card.
I expected the government of Sierra Leone, given the gravity of the guinean offense, to curtail diplomatic relations with Guinea to a bare minimum, to announce the suspension of Sierra Leone's participation in the Manor River Union until further notice, and to temporarily ban cross border activities between the two countries.
Mr. Leigh these measures are rational strategic measures designed to send a message that we would not stand for foreign occupation of our land.
In case you did not know this, I was one of those who gave credit to Pa Kabba for the amount of noise he made internationally when Sierra Leone was under seige by the RUF. Why the deafening silence now? Why is the issue not raised in every African organizational meeting and at the United Nations. Why should Sierra Leone be playing soccer with Guinea instead of trying to get Guinea expelled from the African cup? Mr. Leigh your government's quiet diplomacy is really deafening.
Does Pa Kabba expect that the SLPP will be returned to power in 2007 and that Berewa will continue his do nothing approach?
The following statement was made by you: 'Mr. Ernest Koroma's ploy to raise the profile of Yenga to boost his flagging campaign for president is interesting but wholly disingenuous as he can't do anything practical about the Yenga situation any more than Prez Kabbah is doing right now - except for him to degenerate into PMDC-style empty yap-yap...'
It goes to show that the SLPP government is bankrupt with ideas. On the contrary, Ernest or Margai can do much more than simply 'yap yap'. First a good leader must understand that he or she is serving at the will of the people and that transparency is paramount for good governance. Mr. Leigh what you call quiet diplomacy is do nothing secrecy. In about seven days Pa Kabba's term of office will expire and he would have achieved nothing as far as the Yenga issue is concerned. How do you expect us to believe that he had a constructive approach to solving the Yenga issue and that his opponents on the other hand have no better solution.
Mr. Leigh, please know that there are values to each of the actions i suggested above. No sane and concerned leader would sit idly, dine with an aggressor and laugh and play with an agressor while its citizens are in anguish and filled with utter dissappointment by its do nothing government.
Lets call a spade a spade. The government is a disgrace and Pa Kabba really dissappointed the SLPP and the people of Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: To JL, Albert Moinina, Cornelius, Chief, Olu B. et al
From: earthman
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Date Posted: 10:43:22 05/23/07 ()
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YENGA is where Sierra Leone,liberia AND Guinea meet.
It is smack in the low profile Diamond belt of the MRU.
The problem may be the inability of the GOSL to assert
her rights to YENGA.YENGA has never been a part of GUINEA. All parties involved know this!
Subject: Re: To JL, Albert Moinina, Cornelius, Chief, Olu B. et al
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 07:27:17 05/23/07 ()
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Still waiting for an aplologist to come in and discusss this issue........we are armed with real facts with which to batter those ambassadors/ messanger boys who want to be bigger than those who sent them....
1. We have still not got clarity about the Yenga affair.
Just as there is a mountain of evidence about corruption, so too it’s possible to get the Guinean perspective on Yenga, by direct and discreet enquiries.
You would have thought that this was between two Muslim brothers, one Mandinka man Kabbah and Suso man General Lansana Conte and they would be able to discuss colonial boundaries amicably. As far as I am concerned, river or no river, YENGA is part of Sierra Leone. Kabbah was very clear at the OIC in Tehran, on 9 December 1997when talking about ”occupied” lands of Judea and Samaria and telling the Israeli brethren to get off disputed ”Palestinian land” but when it comes to raising his voice and speaking clear sense about his own Yenga, as Sheikh Umarr Kamara (has pointed out in his poem about the mumu cabinet, there is a long silence about Yenga and after that it’s yaing.
2. The “attempt by the SLPP government to get immunity for all SLPP government Executives” is clearly an indication of criminal intent. If the watchword is transparency and accountability and a war against corruption, then why the executive of the SLPP should be given immunity from investigation and prosecution for crimes- especially financial misdeeds/ corruption perpetrated whilst in office is beyond normal understanding.
We can discuss this further after any of their apologists posts a legally relevant or irrelevant attempt to justify this kind of immunity from prosecution for crimes committed in – or indeed out of office.
They would certainly not obtain that kind of immunity if they were Israeli politicians. But as specially privileged Sierra Leone politicians, who privilege themselves, they want one more privilege don’t they? To be able to go on committing crimes in office and to have the privilege of being immune from prosecution. You’ve read Dostoevsky’s “Crime and Punishment”?
http://www.google.se/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4ADBR_enSE222SE222&q=%22Crime+and+Punishment
That’s what I like about Jerry Rawlings: just line them up and one last chance to say their prayers; maybe they will get some immunity from the devil, in hell, when they get there, but not in Sierra Leone.
Here is an item of interest:
RESOLUTION NO. 9/30-P
ON THE POLITICAL SITUATION IN SIERRA LEONE
The Thirtieth Session of the Islamic Conference of Foreign Ministers (Session of Unity and Dignity), held in Tehran, Islamic Republic of Iran, from 27 to 29 Rabiul Awwal 1424H (28 to 30 May, 2003),
Having noted with great satisfaction the conclusion of the Lome Peace Accord of 7th July, 1999 brokered by ECOWAS under the auspices of the President of the Republic of Togo, the then Chairman of ECOWAS;
Noting the efforts of ECOWAS, the United Nations, the OAU and other international organizations to bring peace to Sierra Leone and the sub-region especially the cease-fire agreement signed in Abuja, Federal Republic of Nigeria on 30 April 2001, between the Government of Sierra Leone and the Revolutionary United Front (RUF) culminating in the cessation of hostilities and ushering in the current peaceful atmosphere in Sierra Leone;
Aware also that a large number of Sierra Leone nationals including professionals, were forced to flee to neighbouring countries or elsewhere as refugees have started to return to Sierra Leone as a result of the peaceful atmosphere and the programme of rehabilitation, reconstruction and re-settlement which is being gradually implemented;
Taking note of the Secretary General’s report on the situation in Sierra Leone (Document No. ICFM/30-2003/POL/SG-REP.12).
1. Expresses its deep appreciation to the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS), the United Nations, the OAU and other International Organizations, etc. and to the Government of the Republic of Togo for the conclusion of the peace agreement and recalls the positive action undertaken by the countries which have contributed forces to the ECOMOG Peacekeeping force namely, Nigeria, Guinea, Ghana, Mali, Niger and Gambia. Also expresses its deep appreciation for the decisions by the governments of Bangladesh and Pakistan to contribute a large contingent of troops to UNAMSIL in Sierra Leone.
2. Accepts the results of the recently held Presidential and Parliamentary elections which the incumbent President Dr. Ahmad Tejan Kabbah and his Sierra Leone People’s Party (SLPP) won so brilliantly.
3. Appeals to all Member States and other humanitarian/financial organizations to extend urgent material assistance to the Government of Sierra Leone and to enable it to undertake the economic and social rehabilitation of the country and to facilitate the return to their home of refugees living in neighbouring countries.
4. Welcome the establishment of the Trust Fund for Sierra Leone and endorses in this regard the recommendations of the Contact Group on Sierra Leone.
5. Commends the generous financial contributions made by the Member States of Qatar and Malaysia and the material assistance offered by the Republic of the Sudan.
6. Urges the OIC Member States to pledge their generous assistance to Sierra Leone for the rehabilitation and reconstruction of the country following the mayhem and destruction caused by the civil war bilaterally or through the OIC Fund for reconstruction rehabilitation and humanitarian assistance for Sierra Leone.
7. Further urges Member States to extend appropriate assistance to neighbouring States to mitigate the impact of the influx of the hundreds of thousands of Sierra Leonean refugees pending their return home.
8. Requests the Secretary General to follow up the implementation of this resolution and report thereon to the Thirty-first Session of the Islamic Conference of Foreign Ministers.
Subject: Re: To JL, Albert Moinina, Cornelius, Chief, Olu B. et al
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 06:46:59 05/23/07 ()
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1. We have still not got clarity about the Yenga affair.
Just as there is a mountain of evidence about corruption, so too it’s possible to get the Guinean perspective on Yenga, by direct and discreet enquiries.
You would have thought that this was between two Muslim brothers, one Mandinka man Kabbah and Suso man General Lansana Conte and they would be able to discuss colonial boundaries amicably. As far as I am concerned, river or no river, YENGA is part of Sierra Leone. Kabbah was very clear at the OIC in Tehran, on 9 December 1997when talking about ”occupied” lands of Judea and Samaria and telling the Israeli brethren to get off disputed ”Palestinian land” but when it comes to raising his voice and speaking clear sense about his own Yenga, as Sheikh Umar Kamara has pointed out there is a long silence about Yenga and after that it’s yaing.
(His speech:
http://www.sierra-leone.org/kabbah120997.html
2. The “attempt by the SLPP government to get immunity for all SLPP government Executives.” Is clearly an indication of criminal intent. If the watchword is transparency and accountability and a war against corruption, then why the executive of the SLPP should be given immunity from investigation and prosecution for crimes- especially financial misdeeds/ corruption perpetrated whilst in office?
We can discuss this further after any of their apologists post a legally relevant or irrelevant attempt to justify this kind of immunity from prosecution for crimes committed.
They would certainly not obtain that kind of immunity if they were Israeli politicians. But as specially privileged Sierra Leone politicians, who privilege themselves, they want one more privilege don’t they? To be able to commit crimes in office and to have the privilege of being immune from prosecution. You’ve read Dostoevsky’s “Crime and Punishment”?
http://www.google.se/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4ADBR_enSE222SE222&q=%22Crime+and+Punishment
That’s what I like about Jerry Rawlings: just line them up and one last chance to say their prayers; maybe they will get some immunity from the devil, in hell.
Here is an item of interest:
RESOLUTION NO. 9/30-P
ON THE POLITICAL SITUATION IN SIERRA LEONE
The Thirtieth Session of the Islamic Conference of Foreign Ministers (Session of Unity and Dignity), held in Tehran, Islamic Republic of Iran, from 27 to 29 Rabiul Awwal 1424H (28 to 30 May, 2003),
Having noted with great satisfaction the conclusion of the Lome Peace Accord of 7th July, 1999 brokered by ECOWAS under the auspices of the President of the Republic of Togo, the then Chairman of ECOWAS;
Noting the efforts of ECOWAS, the United Nations, the OAU and other international organizations to bring peace to Sierra Leone and the sub-region especially the cease-fire agreement signed in Abuja, Federal Republic of Nigeria on 30 April 2001, between the Government of Sierra Leone and the Revolutionary United Front (RUF) culminating in the cessation of hostilities and ushering in the current peaceful atmosphere in Sierra Leone;
Aware also that a large number of Sierra Leone nationals including professionals, were forced to flee to neighbouring countries or elsewhere as refugees have started to return to Sierra Leone as a result of the peaceful atmosphere and the programme of rehabilitation, reconstruction and re-settlement which is being gradually implemented;
Taking note of the Secretary General’s report on the situation in Sierra Leone (Document No. ICFM/30-2003/POL/SG-REP.12).
1. Expresses its deep appreciation to the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS), the United Nations, the OAU and other International Organizations, etc. and to the Government of the Republic of Togo for the conclusion of the peace agreement and recalls the positive action undertaken by the countries which have contributed forces to the ECOMOG Peacekeeping force namely, Nigeria, Guinea, Ghana, Mali, Niger and Gambia. Also expresses its deep appreciation for the decisions by the governments of Bangladesh and Pakistan to contribute a large contingent of troops to UNAMSIL in Sierra Leone.
2. Accepts the results of the recently held Presidential and Parliamentary elections which the incumbent President Dr. Ahmad Tejan Kabbah and his Sierra Leone People’s Party (SLPP) won so brilliantly.
3. Appeals to all Member States and other humanitarian/financial organizations to extend urgent material assistance to the Government of Sierra Leone and to enable it to undertake the economic and social rehabilitation of the country and to facilitate the return to their home of refugees living in neighbouring countries.
4. Welcome the establishment of the Trust Fund for Sierra Leone and endorses in this regard the recommendations of the Contact Group on Sierra Leone.
5. Commends the generous financial contributions made by the Member States of Qatar and Malaysia and the material assistance offered by the Republic of the Sudan.
6. Urges the OIC Member States to pledge their generous assistance to Sierra Leone for the rehabilitation and reconstruction of the country following the mayhem and destruction caused by the civil war bilaterally or through the OIC Fund for reconstruction rehabilitation and humanitarian assistance for Sierra Leone.
7. Further urges Member States to extend appropriate assistance to neighbouring States to mitigate the impact of the influx of the hundreds of thousands of Sierra Leonean refugees pending their return home.
8. Requests the Secretary General to follow up the implementation of this resolution and report thereon to the Thirty-first Session of the Islamic Conference of Foreign Ministers.
Subject: NASSIT, Kabbah and Berewa
From: news
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Date Posted: 05:47:21 05/23/07 ()
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NASSIT, Kabbah and Berewa
- Saturday 19 May 2007.
Commentary.
By Mohamed A. Jalloh,USA.
Regarding the recent opening of the NASSIT office in Makeni by President Ahmad Tejan Kabbah, it is heartening to learn of the rare apparent good news of the SLPP government’s action to bring relief to the victims of its incompetence and corruption over the past decade — the long suffering people of SL. However, in the interest of accuracy, I am obliged to point out a fatal error in President Kabbah’s following argument for the election of his vice president, Solomon Berewa, as his successor:
"As the Vice President has been my closest associate in fulfilling the dream of establishing this social security scheme, my fervent hope is that you will support him to become the next President so that he can continue where I leave off. This is because the surest way to fight poverty is to ensure that only those who have been intimately involved in programmes to eliminate it are given the opportunity to continue since all they have to do is to fine tune the process."
Even assuming that Mr. Kabbah’s assertion that Vice President Berewa has been his closest associate in fulfilling the dream of establishing this social security scheme (a claim unlikely to be true given Mr. Kabbah’s admission that the dream started prior to the rebel sacking of Freetown when Mr. Berewa was not a member of President Kabbah’s government), that does not lead to the conclusion that Mr. Berewa should be elected president. On the contrary, the only valid conclusion thereof is that VP Berewa should be made head of NASSIT — not of the SL government.
This is because NASSIT does not constitute the entirety of the SLPP government headed by President Kabbah. Therefore, the success of NASSIT is not indicative of the success of the SLPP government. Thus, if Mr. Kabbah is to argue validly that his Vice President Berewa deserves to be elected to succeed him "so that he can continue where" Kabbah left off, such an argument must be based not on the mere record of a sub-agency of the government such as NASSIT, but on the entire record of Mr. Kabbah’s SLPP government.
And since that record is universally acknowledged to be one of egregious failure, with SL having spent each and every year of President Kabbah’s tenure at the bottom of the indices of global development despite receiving more than a hundred million dollars in international aid, electing Vice President Berewa would constitute a vote to continue Mr. Kabbah’s deplorable service to the people of SL.
Finally, because Mr. Kabbah reasonably would be expected to be aware of his own sorry record of failure as President of SL, his failure to properly include it as a basis for promoting the election of his vice president to succeed him is, at best, evidence of his lack of familiarity with the elements of a valid argument.
At worst, it is, sadly, further evidence of President Kabbah’s pervasive malfeasance in dealing with our country’s affairs. In particular, it is evidence of Mr. Kabba’s lack of patriotism —his elevation of his own personal interest in installing a demonstrably incompetent clone of his in the person of his vice president as his successor, above the much more important interest of millions of S/Leonean victims of the clueless duo in alleviating their impoverished condition with a change from the failed policies of the Kabbah-Berewa SLPP government.
Editor’s Note: Moh’m Jalloh, a native of Sierra Leone resident in Maryland, USA, is the founding Managing Director of a financial services firm based in suburban Washington, D.C., USA.
Photo: Mohamed Jalloh, alias Mohm J.
Subject: Re: NASSIT, Kabbah and Berewa
From: Independent Observer
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Date Posted: 07:42:20 05/23/07 ()
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"Thus, if Mr. Kabbah is to argue validly that his Vice President Berewa deserves to be elected to succeed him "so that he can continue where" Kabbah left off, such an argument must be based not on the mere record of a sub-agency of the government such as NASSIT, but on the entire record of Mr. Kabbah’s SLPP government."
The SLPP government is a failure. So Kabbah will not make such an argument.
Even Berewa himself never says that he will continue where Kabbah left off. Rather than that, he says he will continue the good things. But he never says what those good things might be. Neither has Berewa told us what bad things the SLPP has done he will refuse to continue.
Subject: Re: NASSIT, Kabbah and Berewa
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 16:15:33 05/23/07 ()
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"..... [VP] Berewa ............. says he will continue the good things. But he never says what those good things might be." - Independent Observer.
I have written at least a dozen times in this forum over the past year or so that Mr. Berewa has stated publicly in my presence that he will continue the good things that Mr. President has accomplished including strengthening the foundation for economic and social advancement by doing such things as building, renovating and equipping schools, other educational institutions, markets, health clinics, hospitals, roads, etc., etc. (such as promoting food security, local government devolution, youth empowerment, etc.) as well as introducing his own policies, plans, programs and projects.
Mr. Berewa makes references to Prez. Kabbah's accomplishments that he'll continue at everyone of his stops during his travels within the country.
'Give credit where credit is due.' Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: NASSIT, Kabbah and Berewa
From: Independent Observer
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Date Posted: 06:22:36 05/24/07 ()
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You continue to evade the question that VP Berewa has been concistently evading, namely:
What are the bad things that Vice President Berewa thinks President Kabbah has done that Mr. Berewa will not continue doing if elected president?
Subject: A Child fighting for Childrens Rights
From: M. Alieu Iscandari esq
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Date Posted: 17:08:54 05/22/07 ()
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/programmes/outlook/news/story/2007/05/070518_aminata_sierraleone.shtml
Subject: SLPP SYMBOL AWARDS HAS BEGUN
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 16:50:04 05/22/07 ()
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The SLPP Constituency branches in BO District have begun voting for the award of the powerful party symbol for parliamentary candidates. Here are the winners known to me:
1. Bo Town 1. Councillor Mrs. Neneh Levvie
2. '' 2. Mr. Rado Yoki
3. '' 3. Mr. John Bosco
4. '' 4. Hon. Cecil Hanson.
5. Bo North Mr. Mohamed Jalloh
6. Bo Central Ms. Emma Kowa
Mr. Cecil Hasson is one of the few MPs to regain the Palm Tree symbol for the August elections.
Mr. John Moriba, a close friend of the Normans, lost in Bo North - Dambala.
Ms. Emma Kowa from USA won the symbol for a constituency in the Bumpeh area. She is the daughter of Lawyer Kowa of Bo.
Bo Town 3 is the Shell Mingo Carwash Area. With John Bosco flying the SLPP Flag, PMDC is in for a bath. Bosco is extremely popular in the area.
The Symbol constest in Sumbuya is set for next Saturday. Deputy Speaker Ms. Elizabeth Lavali is a key contestant in the Sumbuya contest but she faces competition from three others, two of whom are coming from USA. - JL
Subject: Re: SLPP SYMBOL AWARDS HAS BEGUN
From: Moijue
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Date Posted: 17:27:51 05/22/07 ()
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JEL, be rest assured that PMDC will NOT only clear Bo, but John Bosco of Manjama Hotel will be trashed by the PMDC candidate
Subject: Re: SLPP SYMBOL AWARDS HAS BEGUN
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 13:57:02 05/23/07 ()
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Moijueh:
Good for you and the PMDC. Congratulations in advance. - JL
Subject: Re: SLPP SYMBOL AWARDS HAS BEGUN
From: DIANA
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Date Posted: 17:32:42 05/22/07 ()
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From Postman to Pujheun parliamentarian? Nah. Will you come back to your old job if you lose the election in Pujheun, or will you stay to help the people after the elections?
Subject: Re: SLPP SYMBOL AWARDS HAS BEGUN
From: boli
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Date Posted: 12:01:37 05/23/07 ()
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What is wrong with being a postman. Same attitude, a postman is a highly respected position in any country. Yes with the internet their role may change, but for now they ensure that communications is maintained.
I dont know who you are, but people like you should learn to respect other peoples' professions. One of the reasons why Africa is so backward is that we are too theoretical and not practical. I would respect anyone as an MP whether they are PHD, GCE or NO CE.
I hope you are living in the diaspora and know the meaning of Equal Opportunities.
Subject: Re: SLPP SYMBOL AWARDS HAS BEGUN
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 00:07:18 05/23/07 ()
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He may be a postman but at least he earns an honest living. How about you?
Subject: Re: SLPP SYMBOL AWARDS HAS BEGUN
From: Moijue
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Date Posted: 17:39:15 05/22/07 ()
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Even as a proud Postman i have helped my people.So fake Diana relax.BTW do u know that my weekly salary is more than that of an MP?
Subject: Re: SLPP SYMBOL AWARDS HAS BEGUN
From: boli
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Date Posted: 12:06:42 05/23/07 ()
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I would not even go there if I were you. Just leave her to her ignorance.....not even sure its a she...might be an hermaphrodite...hehe
I am sure whoever it is, is regretting their 'fast mot'
Subject: Re: SLPP SYMBOL AWARDS HAS BEGUN
From: Neneh
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Date Posted: 11:31:42 05/23/07 ()
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Moijue. Listen to your fullah sister and return to the motherly arms of the SLPP. I would hate to see you drown with the sinking ship (PMDC). Get back quick or die trying to save face' - doors open till 15/06/07...
May I remind you that: there is no party in Salone today (and) there will never be a party in Salone like the SLPP!!!!!!!
Subject: Re: SLPP SYMBOL AWARDS HAS BEGUN
From: ok dok
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Date Posted: 12:31:29 05/23/07 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
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You are one of the most honest men etc. at cocorioko .Say it .
Subject: Re: SLPP SYMBOL AWARDS HAS BEGUN
From: THAVARISH
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Date Posted: 14:44:05 05/23/07 ()
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Like I told you earlier,we can not understand what you are trying to say.How on earth can you refer TO A WOMAN as "You are one of the honest men etc at cocorioko."
LISTEN DE NAME NENEH PER FULLAH EH MEAN 'MAMA', SO WATCH U WORDS DEM.IF U NOR KNOW D DIFFERENCE,DOYA NOR TALK.
Subject: victor voucher gate
From: voucher gate scandal
To: All
Date Posted: 16:35:53 05/22/07 ()
Email Address: marionn4u@yahoo.com
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victor momoh foe of APC signed voucher with his dick
Subject: I will have reached my term limit in May, 2007
From: Olu Beckley
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Date Posted: 15:43:25 05/22/07 ()
Email Address: mariamab@aol.com
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- President Kabbah Addresses Parliament- 23rd June 2006
“I had sworn to protect and defend this Constitution, which provides for Presidential two five year term limits. I will have reached my term limit in May, 2007, and will pass on the baton of leadership to another pair of elected and deserving hands”.
Today is May 22, 2007 and the month of May (my birth month) has nine more days to go. When should we expect the farewell speech?
Subject: Re: I will have reached my term limit in May, 2007
From: krioboy
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Date Posted: 01:12:30 05/23/07 ()
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Mr Beckly i was never expecting you to join such comments.Sorry if i am wrong but i know you morethan that.Please forgive me if i am wrong.
Subject: Re: I will have reached my term limit in May, 2007
From: FACT
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Date Posted: 22:50:56 05/22/07 ()
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I told you guys a couple of weeks ago that Kabbah will do a Tony Blair. unu wait. But is it constitutional? or legal?
Subject: Re: I will have reached my term limit in May, 2007
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 16:23:02 05/22/07 ()
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The knotty/moot point is that before they leave office the SLPP leadership probably wants to pass the specific sort of legislation that protects them from prosecution for crimes that they could have committed whilst in office.
Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and other Humanitarian and Human Rights Organisations appealed to Mr. Kabbah and his government to spare the twenty four soldiers who had been condemned to execution, but to all the pleas, they turned a deaf ear.
You would have expected the toothless chimpanzee to have waged an equally merciless war on those treasonable ones who according to that most damnable Auditor-general’s report on their high crimes and astronomical sums of money that disappeared from their safe keeping, into thin air – and still unaccounted for.
In my view, those are treasonable offences.
These people have still not declared their assets, which are considerably more at the end of their period of tenure, than it was before they took office – and out of all proportion to their salaries……. etc
Subject: Re: I will have reached my term limit in May, 2007
From: bolki
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Date Posted: 16:19:53 05/22/07 ()
Email Address: beoli@yahoo.com
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Bra Olu kusheh. A bin sabi you na Makeni....you kin go to broda. Are noh bin no say you don get boku money....wit de ose den way you get na freetong
Subject: Re: I will have reached my term limit in May, 2007
From: Almamy Seray-Wurie Si
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Date Posted: 15:49:42 05/22/07 ()
Email Address: almamysi@hotmail.com
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Are we in for a suprise..? Maybe Pa Kabbah will leave like Kenie Tony Blair
Subject: Re: I will have reached my term limit in May, 2007
From: Olu Beckley
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Date Posted: 16:08:51 05/22/07 ()
Email Address: mariamab@aol.com
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Mr. Seray-Wurie, what if he does not follow Tony Blair's footsteps? I only hope we will not get to the point wherein the "TEM DON-DON; KABBAH MUST GO" slogan starts making the rounds.
Subject: Sierra Leone: VCCT Creates 56 HIV/Aids Test Centers
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 15:34:21 05/22/07 ()
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Concord Times (Freetown)
21 May 2007
Posted to the web 21 May 2007
By Ibrahim Tarawallie
Freetown
Information and Communication Coordinator of the National HIV/AIDS Secretariat, Abu Bakarr Koroma Friday revealed that they have succeeded in establishing 56 Voluntary Confidential Counseling Testing (VCCT) centers for people to test their HIV/AIDS status.
Speaking to journalists during a press briefing at the YWCA Hall, Koroma said they created these test centers with assistance from their partners adding that the centers will help in the prevention of HIV/AIDS.
He said that if we are to eradicate HIV/AIDS in the country, there is need for a collective work and noted that those with HIV/AIDS should be encourage in their various communities.
United Nations Theme Group Chairperson, Dr. Felicitas Zawaira congratulated the organizers of the programme and implored them to continue their good work.
She stated that women are more prone to the HIV/AIDS virus than men adding that there are 1.5million people that have HIV/AIDS in the world.
Dr. Zawaira said the UN and its partners will put modalities in place to improve the treatment of HIV/AIDS.
She called on all to come on board and work
HIV/AIDS in the country.
Subject: With 245 Cases Not Tried Due Process Faces Failure Says UNMI
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Date Posted: 15:21:00 05/22/07 ()
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With 245 Cases Not Tried
Due Process Faces Failure Says UNMIL
Published: 21 May, 2007
MONROVIA, May 22,---At least 245 court cases docketed for the November Term of Court failed to get tried around the country, with some counties having no trials at all and lacking key court personnel.
These failures, according to the Quarterly Human Rights Report of the United Nations Mission in Liberia (UNMIL), are indicative of "serious challenges to the effective operation of the Judicial System."
These challenges, said the UNMIL Report, "continue to undermine the rule of law and the protection of fundamental human rights" in the country.
Despite the lengthy backlog of cases due to receive indictment or be heard during the November Term of Court, and high numbers of people in pre-trial detention, little noticeable progress was made in the operations of County Circuit Courts, the Report revealed.
The Human Rights and Protection Section of the UN Mission in Liberia recently launched its quarterly Report with emphasis on human rights, conditions in prisons and detention facilities.
According to the Report, no cases were heard at all in Sinoe, River Gee or Gbarpolu Counties during the November Term of Court.
The Report revealed further that the Montserrado County Circuit Court A had 101 cases on its docket for the Term but no records regarding the number of cases heard and their results were available up to the time of writing the report.
It further disclosed that the County's Circuit Court B disposed of 11 cases from its docket of 55. The cases heard included one habeas corpus application and seven summary proceedings.
None of the ten pending rape cases docketed at the Court, according to UNMIL, was tried. It said no cases were tried at all in Circuit Court D, which is assigned to hear cases of armed robbery only, as none of the pending cases had yet been indicted.
The UNMIL Report indicated that although 24 cases were listed for hearing in the Margibi County Circuit Court, only three were tried, all of which resulted in dismissal.
In Bomi, nine cases were reported on the docket of the County Circuit Court; out of these, one resulted in a conviction for rape and sentence to 10 years imprisonment, while a minor case resulted in a conviction and the immediate release of the prisoner. Seven therefore were not heard.
A murder case out of 11 listed for trial in Grand Cape Mount County, including four rape cases, was heard. Only one of the cases was disposed with a guilty plea, the rest unheard.
The Report further disclosed that only three of the 35 cases listed on the Bong County Circuit Court docket were tried but all resulted in a conviction.
It named other 13 cases in Grand Bassa, including one murder and two rape cases, but only three minor cases were tried, resulting in convictions. The pending murder and two rape cases were not tried, it added.
Absence of Key Personnel
The UNMIL Human Rights Report, which covers the period between November 2006 and January 2007, further disclosed that the absence of key personnel in some counties denied victims and suspects the due process of law in a fair and prompt hearing.
It noted that in Lofa County, the Circuit Court did not hear any cases for the Term due to the absence of the judge, who left for Monrovia shortly after the Term began.
The Lofa judiciary is also affected by lack of City Solicitors in all Magistrates' Courts in the County.
Interestingly the Report explained that in November, a man was convicted of theft of property by the Zorzor Associate Magistrate without defense or prosecution present, and sentenced to an indefinite term of imprisonment. The Magistrate, UNMIL said, has been unable to explain why he had imposed an indefinite term on the convicted man.
The Report also pointed out difficulty in securing jurors for trials owing to the lack of eligible people willing to serve as jurors. This, the Report claimed, has prevented the hearing of trials in Grand Cape Mount and Margibi Counties.
In Margibi County, only seven of the 15 juror positions were filled, it said. It blamed juror apathy on an apparently lack of allowance and low pay to jurors. According to the Report, jurors who had served in the past did not receive their allowance of L$10 per day on a regular basis.
It also disclosed that there was no defense counsel in Grand Cape Mount County and the only defense counsels available in Sinoe and Bong Counties were both frequently absent due to illness.
UNMIL expressed frustration in number areas where its Human Rights Officers (HROs) obtain accurate or up to date information on the number of cases before each court and the status of proceedings, due to incomplete record keeping. According to the UNMIL Report, there are courts in which officials either declined to provide any information or were unable to do so.
Recommendations
UNMIL recommends in its report that the Ministry of Justice and the Chief Justice should establish coordinated case management procedures covering the entire criminal justice system, ensuring that cases are handled in a prompt manner and that records are accurately maintained and accessible to parties, their representatives and monitors as are appropriate.
The Missions further recommends that the Chief Justice must ensure that Judges, Magistrates and other personnel assigned to Courts outside Monrovia are in situ and that they receive the necessary training to ensure that they uphold Liberian, as well as international human rights law.
Subject: YENGA ISSUE EXPOSES THE SLPP INABILITY TO PROTECT SL.
From: POLITICAL
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Date Posted: 14:58:33 05/22/07 ()
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The Yenga issue is an example of many other issues that expose the SLPP of unfitness to rule a district let alone a country. The constitution give the mandate to a government of the day to protect citizens from external attacks. In this case the SLPP has failed it constitutional obligation and in light of that they should leave office. A man like JL sitting in the US talking all types of lies about this government should be ashame of himself.
Subject: Re: YENGA ISSUE EXPOSES THE SLPP INABILITY TO PROTECT SL.
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 16:26:00 05/23/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Why should I be ashamed of myself just because our government is not using military or legal means in Yenga? I am told that diplomatic efforts are being put to good use and hopefully this will settle the matter without the need to shed more blood in the region.
Thank God our Constitution does not order our governments how to settle international problems. Diplomacy is the most effective means that I know of. 500 years hence, some other method might be preferred. Who knows? Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: YENGA ISSUE - shame! shame! shame!
From: Alie Formeh Kamara
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Date Posted: 18:17:07 05/22/07 ()
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It is a rather sad picture for Sierra Leone. I blame the press for the lax in reporting news on Yenga. I blame the opposition parties in parliament for their failure to apply pressure on the government, and I blame Sierra Leoneans at home for failing to organize demonstrations against the government of Sierra Leone for the absence of action to free Yenga from the excrutiating strangulation by foreign occupiers.
Although I should commend the Leader of the APC, the Honorable Ernest Bai Koroma, for the ingenious manner in which he brought attention to the Yenga issue, I believe that sustained pressure on the government should have been applied all along.
In my view, what is lacking in Sierra Leone among politicians and news editors is how to keep tab on the myriad of activities by the government so that they do not fall through the cracks and be forgotten. The legislature and the media are vital organs in shaping the future of Sierra Leone. Any failure by the government is shared in some sense by the legislature and the news media. The Yenga issue is a case in point.
It is okay for the opposition to say that they had expressed clearly their stand on the Yenga issue but it is entirely another thing when they abandon the issue because of lack of organization for months on end.
For the media I long for the time when news paper editors would develop such passion on an important story like Yenga that they never let it go until they see result.
The Government has sold out on Yenga and that folks would be one of President Kabbas legacy. Say what you want about the Late Dr. Siaka Probyn Stevens but Guinea would not have dared to encroach upon Yenga had he been the ruler of Sierra Leone today.
Where is Berewa in all of this. After all he is a member of the Government. How come Berewa is comfortable and free while Sierra Leoneans in Yenga have had their lands, lively hood, freedom and way of life taken away from them.
What happens to the dictum that no one is free unless everybody is free? My freinds I loath politicians who talk but take no action. They, like Berewa are whimps.
Subject: Re: YENGA ISSUE - shame! shame! shame!
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq.
To: All
Date Posted: 00:28:54 05/23/07 ()
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If at some point in time you come to realise that Yenga was given to Guinea in a private agreement betwen the slpp government and the govt of lansana conte, in exchange for the use of Guinen troops against the RUF and AFRC, would you be surprised?I wouldnt be particularly when you watch how slow this government is draging its feet, keeping informational imoirtance so close to its chest and in muddy waters with absolutely no TRANSPARENCY.
Might there be a connection between the guinean takeover of Yenga and the SLPP's inability to solve this very brazen attack on our nation, and the attempt by the slpp government to create a XNAL amendment to create IMMUNITY for the president and his bunch of ineffective management team for acts committed while in office?
I would think that the president should be entitled to immunity for acts done in office which acts were in the performance of his official duties. What if we later find out though that the president acted in an ultra vires maner with regards to the Yenga Issue should he be given immunity? Or is it an act of treason? Lets leave that to the legal Pundits.
If the SLPP believe that Yenga issue is being resolved, then we look forward to a sensitizing trip to Yenga soon while he is on the campaign trail.
This Yenga Issue reflects our military weakness and our inability to stand and be counted. To those who think that the issue can not be solved legally I say remember Bakassi?
Subject: Re: YENGA ISSUE - shame! shame! shame!
From: ok dok
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Date Posted: 01:19:26 05/23/07 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
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Yenga issue is non political Ali and i assure you that Koroma{APC} is just always political about issues he cant solve.
Subject: Re: YENGA ISSUE - shame! shame! shame!
From: THAVARISH
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Date Posted: 06:56:45 05/23/07 ()
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SHOATO TA KOI?
In russian,what the hell are you trying to say.We can bearly understand most of your postings.
Subject: Re: YENGA ISSUE - shame! shame! shame!
From: OK DOK
To: All
Date Posted: 09:08:48 05/23/07 ()
Email Address: OKDOK@YAHOO.COM
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Message:
TRY TO UNDERSTAND BUT I CANT SUPPORT LIES FROM APC.
Subject: Re: YENGA ISSUE - shame! shame! shame!
From: THAVARISH
To: All
Date Posted: 09:37:34 05/23/07 ()
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Explain yourself proper,or write it in KRIO/MENDE,because we still can't understand what you are trying to say.
Subject: Re: YENGA ISSUE REQUIRES DIPLOMACY
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 13:12:34 05/23/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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I understand quite perfectly what ok dok has set forth in English in his postings, including those here. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: YENGA ISSUE REQUIRES DIPLOMACY
From: THAVARISH
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Date Posted: 14:53:38 05/23/07 ()
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I was expecting you to take up his side,because he is a BLIND SLPP supporter like you.This proves how basis you are when it comes to defending your SLPP apologist.If OK DOK can not construct a simple four words sentence,I wonder what you could have said if it were an APC or PMDC supporter.FOOLOMUNKU.HEHEHEHEHE
Subject: Re: YENGA ISSUE REQUIRES DIPLOMACY
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 15:18:09 05/23/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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This is an informal discussion forum. 99.9% of the postings meet the standard for proper articulation be it from APC, PMDC, SLPP, NDA, RUF etc. supporters. So, there is thus no need for any fuss. What is important are the contents of the postings, not the laguage standard. Thank you - you ................................. Goodbye. - JL
Subject: Re: YENGA ISSUE REQUIRES DIPLOMACY
From: THAVARISH
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Date Posted: 07:59:18 05/24/07 ()
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You are so right,but the CONTENT of his posting can hardly be understood.If this was an APC or PMDC SUPPORTER,you will be calling him/her a form four drop out or FOOLUMUNKU. Mr Leigh,WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE GEESE IS GOOD FOR THE GANDER,but in this case, the GANDER being a SLPP supporter is PROTECTED by you,and that is the SLPP WAY.
Subject: YOU DESERVE BETTER THAN THE APC!
From: Non-Partisan Observer
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Date Posted: 14:27:01 05/22/07 ()
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CRY FREETOWN: YOU DESERVE BETTER THAN THE APC!
© By John E. Leigh
Mr. FODAY MANSARY has correctly the painful situation during the January 1999 invasion of Freetown by a combined force of AFRC/RUF/NPLF thugs. But it is very important to understand the real background that produced that terrible situation.
As a prelude to the January 6, 1999 mayhem, two-thirds of the SL Army revolted and/or joined the Johnny Paul Koroma led-revolt of May 25, 1997 against our elected government, saying they don't want what they called Mendecracy (i.e. multiparty elections). They said they wanted PEACE instead.
For your information, Johnny Paul Koroma was a Form Three St. Edwards Secondary School dropout from Momoh's tribe and hometown (Binkolo, Bombali District) that the APC one-party government had favoristically and nepotistically awarded a military scholarship to study military tactics in England. He was just one among many fellow tribesmen deliberately packed inside the Sierra Leone military and police by the APC hegemonistic tribalistic government in the hope that those favored people would use those forces to protect the APC One-Party regime in case of any popular insurrection.
Those low-quality favored boys constituted the leadership of the two-thirds of our military under the APC that was automatically inherited by the first multiparty government and parliament elected in 30 years. It was this APC military-packed leadership of the two-thirds of our army that revolted under President Kabbah and established the destructive AFRC junta. And it was among this same faction that gave us the notorious sobels (“fake soldiers by day and deadly, raping and thieving rebels at night) under the NPRC regime earlier on.
The AFRC'S idea of PEACE was to form an alliance with the blood-thirsty RUF that systematically killed, raped, beat, maimed and jailed their opponents and burnt, stole and confiscated the properties of ordinary people across our land over 11 years. They even stole from their own kind and took away the wives of their own relatives and colleagues. They were totally mean-spirited and amoral.
After the coupligans were evicted by ECOMOG/CDF in February 1998, they retreated to the diamond mines to regroup, rearm and to continue they desperate grab for political power. In Kono and Tongoh Field, they used brutal, forced labor to mine diamonds, forcing san-san boys, school children, teachers, farmers, policemen, traders, legitimate miners and women to mine diamonds around the clock until many of their victims dropped dead from over-work, floggings, dirty-drinking water and no food.
Foday Sankoh systematically sold the forced-labor-mined diamonds through a renegade Senegalese soldier, Gen Ibrahim Bah, to Charles Taylor at a huge discount and used the proceeds to buy large quantities of arms and war supplies from merchants of death through Charles Taylor, across the globe. Taylor ran a shuttle helicopter service between Koidu and Monrovia to transport the looted diamonds. NPFL soldiers then transported the purchased weapons and supplies to Sierra Leone.
Following my frequent appearances on CNN, BBC radio & TV, ITV, Nigerian, South African TV, VOA, US TV & radio, etc., and in numerous speeches, briefings, Congressional lobbying sessions and press conferences in several states across America, the US Deputy Secretary of State finally called me to in early 2000 to inform the SL Embassy exactly what I have been saying publicly since the fall of 1997 and to provide the embassy with the exact details obtained by the CIA; viz: the violence in SLeone was (i) a war of plunder by the AFRC/RUF, (ii) the coupligans and the RUF were genocidal killers and (iii) that in 1999 alone Charles Taylor exported in excess of six million carats of diamond gemstones to Europe.
Again, part of that money was used to buy weapons which Taylor then sold and transported at huge mark-ups to the AFRC/RUF criminals. A further part of those funds were used to provide diplomatic support for Liberia and the RUF worldwide against the elected government with the balance used for Taylor’s security and to prop-up his regime in Liberia and for his own personal self-enrichment.
And those were the criminals that entered Freetown in early January 1999 to free (i) AFRC coup collaborators such as ex-President Joseph Momoh, (ii) the tried and convicted coupligans and coupligans awaiting trial, (iii) several RUF monsters caught by the CDF and ECOMOG in Freetown and finally (iv) to create the very terrible conditions that Mr. FODAY MANSARAY has now described for us in his version of CRY FREETOWN.
I have said this before and I say it again today: President Tejan Kabbah and his key lieutenants, Solomon Berewa and James Jonah, did the most correct thing they could have done at the time and under the circumstances: they successfully placed themselves beyond harm's way and successfully counter-attached and thus won the peace which we have been enjoying for the past several years.
The end-game that the SLPP Administration successfully devised was this: (i) the Lome (end-of-war) Accords, (ii) a big ($2.8 billion) UN Chapter VII Peace-keeping Mission in SLeone, the world’s largest ever, (iii) the demise of the RUF, (iv) the establishment of the UN-backed Special Court and the prosecution of alleged war criminals; (v) the inflow of humanitarian aid, (vi) a flourishing peace in Sierra Leone with multiparty democracy, (vii) the systematic re-start of economic and social development nationwide, (viii) the rebuilding of a democratic military based on merit and professionalism, not tribalism to foster hegemonistic tendencies, (ix) the return of the international community previously defrauded and constructively expelled by the APC and (x) last but not least, the coming 2007 elections.
Where was the present APC (and PMDC) leadership during this long period of trial and tribulations for the people of Sierra Leone?
Did they keep silent in the hope that the junta of Johnny Paul Disaster Koroma would prevail so that the APC would eventually resume power to continue their hegemonistic tribalism of marginalization, poverty spreading, Binkolo frolicking; favoritism, nepotism and merciless corruption, the zero maintenance of public assets, the packing of the military and the police, together with the general degradation of society?
VP Berewa was with President Kabbah and Dr. Jonah. But where was Mr. Ernest Koroma, the present APC leader throughout all this period and what was he doing to help?
I have met Mr. Koroma and I am sorry that his mentor, Mr. Sahid Jamil, was killed by pretend-RUF thugs. Mr. Koroma is very gentlemanly, nice and quite likeable but without more he is not going to win the popular vote. I do not see the requisite intellectual vigor in him. Besides, he is surrounded by KDDA marginalizers and Ekutay poverty spreaders, frolickers and a whole bunch of people with dubious backgrounds, incapacities – not to mention the heavy APC baggage of dragging our country down to failure and a barbaric war.
Thank you. – JL May 19, 2007
Subject: Re: YOU DESERVE BETTER THAN THE APC!
From: STOP
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Date Posted: 14:48:09 05/22/07 ()
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Please stop re-posting ungrammatical rubbish suffused with blatant lies and corporate taxes frauldulent claims.
This is s forum for the discussion of issues -- not for the display of illogical, ungrammatical rants
Subject: Re: YOU DESERVE BETTER THAN THE APC!
From: Non-Partisan Observer
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Date Posted: 19:17:40 05/22/07 ()
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Do try to understand that democracy a la cocorioko is a free for all joint where participants are free to post anything they desire. You have no right to tell people what to post or not post on this forum.
Charity begins at home, and civility lies in one's capability of hearing the other side of the story, no matter how much we may disagree, without making hasty premeditated conclusions.
Apart from not being required reply to each and every contribution here, common sense dictates that you also have the luxury of choosing what to reading and what to leave.
Talking about “rubbish”, no one has a finer command of language than the person who keeps his mouth shut.
Subject: Re: YOU DESERVE BETTER THAN THE APC!
From: STOP
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Date Posted: 05:35:55 05/23/07 ()
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It is obvious you have no understanding what a democracy is. Nor do you have an understanding of what Cocorioko is about.
For your information, neither a democracy nor cocorioko "is a free for all joint where participants are free to post anything they desire." That is indiscipline.
Also, civility does not entail assaulting your audience with repeated nonsense. That is rudeness.
Grammatical proficiency is not displayed by a fool keeping quiet. That is nonsense.
Subject: Re: YOU DESERVE BETTER THAN THE APC!
From: Non-Partisan Observer
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Date Posted: 10:51:26 05/23/07 ()
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Kapu sense, nor kapu word, the good old Krio adage says. The fact that you are unhindered capacitated to contribute to the Cocorioko forum confirms the accuracy of my observation, and has nothing to do with indiscipline. Unless, you are in fact trying to say the owners maintain no discipline on the forum, which is untrue, then you have no clue of what you’re talking about.
It seems you have your own definition of everything, which is ok, as long as long as keep in mind that others have the right to have their say.
Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. And that's the difference.
Subject: Re: YOU DESERVE BETTER THAN THE APC!
From: STOP
To: All
Date Posted: 13:01:23 05/23/07 ()
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Your problem continues to be that you never understand anything you read.
Using your reasoning (I am being generous in calling it that), it is okay for a criminal to commit a crime because he is "unhindered" to do so.
Do you see how nonsensical your argument is? It is clear that you don't understand the purpose of rules in society.
Society's rules, including laws, pose no hindrance to committing a crime -- except to those who fear the consequences. When you understand that, you will understand that the absence of "hindrance" to commit an anti-social act does not equate to license to do so.
y advice to you is to get together with a good English teacher at the appropriate elementary school level, so that you can start getting help to correct your comprehension problems. That may not teach you how to reason properly, but at least, it will allow you to understand what you read.
Subject: Re: YOU DESERVE BETTER THAN THE APC!
From: Non-Partisan Observer
To: All
Date Posted: 21:37:02 05/23/07 ()
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My perception of what goes on at the forum is the factual reality of what has been the contribution of the proprietors to Sa Lone community for which I commend them.
Your unsuccessful attempts in creating an analogy between what was being debated and whether it was okay to commit a crime because one is unhindered disqualifies you as a debater, because inference was fallacious and had no bearings on what is being debated.
The issue on the floor is about posting unhindered and not the okay-ness of the action, or the committing of any crime. Everything said thereafter was nonsensical redundancy and exposes your emptiness in tons.
There is nothing worse than aggressive stupidity, and your inability to distinguish vegetables from fruits qualifies you for honors in Fu-lu-munku-ism.
On a high note, I will always be disposed to educate you on the Kantian conception of practical reason and moral autonomy should that opportunity arise.
Right now though, the debate is about a forumite’s right to post unhindered.
Stick to the topic.
Subject: Re: YOU DESERVE BETTER THAN THE APC!
From: Non-Partisan Observer
To: All
Date Posted: 06:18:03 05/24/07 ()
Email Address:
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"The issue on the floor is about posting unhindered and not the okay-ness of the action or the committing of any crime."
Alas, you continue to display a predictable predilection for not understanding what you read -- and even what you write. Let me help you on both counts.
I started this particular discussion by objecting to your posting the same nonsensical posting by Leigh that he had earlier posted, on the grounds that it is improper to do so. Clearly, therefore, I was saying that it was NOT okay do so even though there was no hindrance to doing so.
I hope you can now see how your familiar inability tto understand what you read lead you to mischaracterize that simple contention as equivalent to your following nonsensical statement: "The issue on the floor is about posting unhindered and not the okay-ness of the action or the committing of any crime."
Methinks you will continue to display surprising ignorance of the meaning of even the simplest statement as long as you refuse to seek remedial help for your chronic problem: Your inability to understand anything you read (or write).
Subject: "How APC Expelled development and imported suffering etc
From: Bassie Amara
To: All
Date Posted: 13:50:49 05/22/07 ()
Email Address: bassieamara@yahoo.com
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LAWYER JOHN LEIGH – DESPERATE FOR A JOB WITH THE SLPP
This posting is written in response to John Leigh’s piece titled “How APC Expelled Development and Imported Suffering & Trouble”
This John Leigh fellow must be desperate for a job with the SLPP government by all means at his disposal. John Leigh is supposed to be a respected lawyer residing some where in the U.S. He is supposed to be licking his wounds from his failed attempt to lead the SLPP party. Immediately following his disgraceful loss, he attempted a campaign of smear against the SLPP party but again failed. So he has now resorted to a desperate bootlicking campaign so that he can be rewarded with some position should Berewa win the forth coming elections. This is indeed another sad development for our nation.
John Leigh has no good intentions for Sierra Leone, but to recover all the monies he lost during his bid to lead the ruling SLPP. If he does have genuine intentions, he will be contributing to the current political discourse in Sierra Leone in a more constructive manner using whatever educational and other exposure or contacts he may have rather than occupy the low life level of finger pointing to past mistakes that we can not take back at this point in time. John Leigh has lived in the U.S. all of his adult life, he must be well conversant with the way politics play out in the U.S. and should be copying the progressive mindset of politicians in the U.S. and other developed countries when contributing to political discourse during times of elections. Yes, one is free to point at the mistakes of opposing political parties, but one must further the political argument by narrating what one’s own political party might do differently. Apart from having a rude tirade over the poor electorates of Sierra Leone by calling them “san san boys” and other demeaning names, John Leigh has never shared his political vision for Sierra Leone. As an educated adult with a lot of opportunities to be thankful for in his life, people like Leigh are expected to carry themselves to some level of high esteem and dedicate their good fortunes toward salvaging our poor nation from the grip of political ineptness that continue to have a strangle hold around our necks.
Þ Mr. Leigh can not tell me he is proud of the SLPP government that has been in power since 1996 but yet can not provide basic electricity to Freetown, not to mention the provinces. By the way, there is 24 hours electricity supply in Monrovia – what’s up with that?
Þ Mr. Leigh can not tell me that he is proud of this current administration that sit by while the formerly beautiful streets of Freetown are taken over by petty traders, with garbage strewn all over the place. During the Shaki days, Ajibu Jalloh’s Keep The City Clean street sweepers and dump trucks were things we “upliners” notice on our first visit to Freetown.
Þ John can not be proud to bring business partners from Boston to a perpetually congested city where a five mile drive takes over 2 hours and traffic lights are non existent.
Þ John must be ashamed of the SLPP administration run by folks who have their families living in the comfort of the developed world with their home mortgages paid for by monies meant for the people of Sierra Leone.
Þ John talks about his extensive travels within Sierra Leone and what the people have to say to him about the then APC government. Common John, you are a big fat liar, how extensive can you travel in a country where the total miles of paved roads can not exceed five hundred outside of Freetown. A trip from Freetown to the City of Bo is enough to sicken your old bones for a couple of days. What you call extensive travel may well be in the form of Helicopter flyovers with your new found boss in the person of Berewa.
Þ The former Ambassador also talks about the APC degrading multi-party system to one party, but we currently have political pluralism. Why doesn’t the learned man engage the people on how we can strengthen our current political dispensation and move forward and develop this nation rather than cataloging mistakes that we have already corrected.
Fellow Sierra Leoneans, do not be fooled by people like Leigh. If he is really the man of character that he claims to be, he will desist from cheap mud slinging and bring business partners from his adopted country, the almighty USA to help foster development. There are many many ways we can contribute to national development. Being a loud mouth blind member of a political party is surely one catastrophic way to contribute to the further degradation of an already dilapidated state. Go to beach and see most of those beach houses, they are owned by ordinary Sierra Leoneans. Some of them we know are ordinary taxi drivers in the U.S. but they are surely contributing to the positive development of Sierra Leone. John Leigh is broke, a failed lawyer, and absolutely an idle minded political sycophant. Otherwise, he will not be praise singing about what the SLPP have to show in the last two terms of their administration. John needs to return to Boston and earn a genuine salary like all of us. Enough of this misleading blind politics from the likes of John Leigh, we need to listen to more open minded individuals that really have Sierra Leone in their hearts.
Thank you.
Bassie Amara (AKA, Abazam)
bassieamara@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: "How APC Expelled development and imported suffering etc
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 15:42:40 05/22/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Mr. Bassie Amara:
Let me provide corrections to a few of your many erroneous statements.
1. Your claim that "John Leigh has lived in the U.S. all of his adult life" is totally wrong.
Further:
2. "Þ Mr. Leigh can not tell me he is proud of the SLPP government that has been in power since 1996 but yet can not provide basic electricity to Freetown, not to mention the provinces" is neither here nor there.
ANSWER: The SLPP is not 100% but it is getting there. The war damage and prior years APC neglect and mal-governance had severely handicapped the SLPP government. Electricity is in Bo and Kenema. APC failed to maintain the other stations. - JL
3. "Þ Mr. Leigh can not tell me that he is proud of this current administration that sit by while the formerly beautiful streets of Freetown are taken over by petty traders, with garbage strewn all over the place. During the Shaki days, Ajibu Jalloh’s Keep The City Clean street sweepers and dump trucks were things we “upliners” notice on our first visit to Freetown."
ANS: The SLPP government is not sitting. It is busy but it must do more to clean the environment. I am not proud of its record in this area. But I know that the SLPP government does not have all the required money and expertise to solve all the country's problem's simultaneously. Remember, I was the first Kabbah Government official to complain about garbage in our streets in 2001. I even complained to President Kabbah about the garbage then piling up in front of the American Ambassador's residence in Signal Hill at a time when the US was spending heavily on UN Peacekeeping in SLeone and in upgrading ECPMOG.
No I am not happy at all but what did the city council do? Do they have a plan to shame the government with?
4. "Þ John can not be proud to bring business partners from Boston to a perpetually congested city where a five mile drive takes over 2 hours and traffic lights are non existent."
ANS: The booming traffic reflects a growing economy. But traffic is not smooth flowing. I would like to see better management of traffic and more exits from the city. What is the city council doing about improving traffic flow and building more city markets to help reduce street trading?
5. "Þ John must be ashamed of the SLPP administration run by folks who have their families living in the comfort of the developed world with their home mortgages paid for by monies meant for the people of Sierra Leone."
No I am not ashamed of such at all. Many in the Diaspora are gaining education, practical knowledge, contacts and capital.
6. "Þ John talks about his extensive travels within Sierra Leone and what the people have to say to him about the then APC government. Common John, you are a big fat liar, how extensive can you travel in a country where the total miles of paved roads can not exceed five hundred outside of Freetown. A trip from Freetown to the City of Bo is enough to sicken your old bones for a couple of days. What you call extensive travel may well be in the form of Helicopter flyovers with your new found boss in the person of Berewa."
ANS: VP Berewa is not my boss but just a mere political associate. Second, I do not use any helicopter service in SLeone. I drive around in 4-wheel-drive vehicles. I have been to all districts, all major 965-70)towns and I have tarried with the local people. I have even registered to vote. I stay about a month a time when I go go to SLeone, with three weeks spent out of the Western Area each trip.
The trip to Bo is nothing. I have done it several times. Lastly, I am telling you the truth. You are the big fat liar.
7. "Þ The former Ambassador also talks about the APC degrading multi-party system to one party, but we currently have political pluralism. Why doesn’t the learned man engage the people on how we can strengthen our current political dispensation and move forward and develop this nation rather than cataloging mistakes that we have already corrected."
ANS: I have done that in several articles since 2003 and during my campaign for SLPP leader. My job now is Voter Education to help the people understand what the opposition parties and leadership are truly are so thay are more able to vote right.
My policy is not to critize my party 12 months to and after elections. If my statements about APC and Ernest Koroma are not to your liking, please correct the specific errors. If you choose to critize the SLPP, it is your right. And if I can pick apart your statements against the SLPP, I will do so as I am doing right now.
Having said the above, I will leave your other numerous erroneous staments and speculations about me without addressing them. But I stand ready to correct your false allegations against the SLPP. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: "How APC Expelled development and imported suffering etc
From: Daily Observer
To: All
Date Posted: 14:01:23 05/22/07 ()
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"Fellow Sierra Leoneans, do not be fooled by people like Leigh."
No serious Sierra Leonean would take John Leigh seriously -- he is just too ignorant and corrupt.
Even though the fool does not reealize it, he is the resident clown on Cocorioko -- good for a luagh at anty time of the day or night!
Subject: Re: "How APC Expelled development and imported suffering etc
From: BASSIE AMARA II
To: All
Date Posted: 13:57:27 05/22/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
"By the way, there is 24 hours electricity supply in Monrovia – what’s up with that?"
In your dreams. There are only a few street lights in Momnrovia, and half of those have stopped functioning. Sierra-leoneans will go at length to priase other countries,and celebrate while telling lies about his own country.
Subject: Re: "How SLPP created suffering etc
From: Johnny
To: All
Date Posted: 14:04:05 05/22/07 ()
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"Sierra-leoneans will go at length to priase other countries,and celebrate while telling lies about his own country. "
Sunstitute SLPP leaders for "other countries" and what do you have? An accurate decription of blind SLPP supporters like you who have betrayed their own people.
Subject: ERNEST KOROMA IS COMING TO THE U.S. FOR HIS LAST CHOP MONEY.
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 11:14:26 05/22/07 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
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It is my understanding that Ernest Bai Koroma(who according to the supreme court of Sierra Leone was elected leader of the APC outside the party's 1995 constitution,which is the supreme law of the party)will be in the U.S.A. this weekend primarily to raise funds for his bid for the presidency of Sierra Leone.
It is very interesting to note that Ernest is only coming to raise funds for himself and not for the party.
I am sure that since after the 2002 elections, Ernest Koroma have been able to raise well above $200,000 american dollars from his fanatics(must of them can not offer anything to the country,but they are desperate to hold political offices).
The most annoying part of the funding issue is that up till now nobody in the APC has the guts to ask Ernest Koroma to properly account for the huge amount of monies he had already received from his blind supporters.
Let me remind the APC that it is a policy in National Electoral commission(NEC)that all political parties in Sierra Leone must present to the commission, an audited financial report.I am sure that when the APC will fail to comply with this policy and a fine levied against them, they will blame the SLPP and not themselves.
Members to the APC, north America, I wish you well on the next Ernest Koroma fund raising activity.
But remember that, this will be his very last "chop money".Our people in the USA are not fools, they are very industrious people(they work hard for they monies).
Subject: Re: ERNEST KOROMA IS COMING TO THE U.S. FOR HIS LAST CHOP MONEY.
From: Olu Beckley
To: All
Date Posted: 13:36:17 05/22/07 ()
Email Address: mariamab@aol.com
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Message:
Alpha Saidu, all Sierra Leoneans do have a constitutional right to political association and expression. Supporting the opposition is one sure way by which we voice out our opposition to the policies of the incumbent government, and keep hopes alive for a change in the status quo.
Money matters in politics and there is nothing wrong with giving or a making a monetary contribution that will usher in change. The fund raising successes of the All Peoples Congress Party (APC) signal the confidence an increasing number of Sierra Leoneans (at home and in the diaspora) have in the party’s leadership.
What is wrong is when through official government Memoranda, we ask all Managing Directors; Principals of Schools; Permanent Secretaries; Senior Government Civil servants and all Paramount Chiefs to contribute a certain amount towards the election campaign of the incumbent party. What is even worse and borders on illegality, is when the incumbent uses World Bank loans and donor resources meant for providing basic services to the people to undertake political campaigns. That is illegal and that is what Parliament and the Audit Department should investigate and audit.
I am happy you note the multitude that welcomes the Hon. Ernest Bai Koroma each time he visits the US. No other Presidential candidate can boast of similar support. You and the rest of your folks are welcome this Memorial Day Weekend. Come listen to the voice of change!
Subject: Re: ERNEST KOROMA IS COMING TO THE U.S. FOR HIS LAST CHOP MONEY.
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 18:53:56 05/23/07 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
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Message:
Olu Beckley,I will always respond to your postings because you are a very decent and civilize man and I respect you.I will never respond to Alieu Iscandari,acting on an appeal a few respectable people within his family(that know front,back and center)made to me.I know that these respectable people really want to save the public face of their family.Since,my word is my bond ,I will never fail to keep the promise I gave them.The only thing I will continue to do for Alieu is to pray that God takes away the heart of stone from him,and gives him the heart of flesh,so that he will feel deep in his bones,what peace there may be in silence.I want Alieu to always keep in his mind the fact that I will never be mad with him for insulting me in this forum because all right thinking people and I, know that,WHAT ALIEU IS SPEAKS SO LOUD THAT NOBODY CAN HEAR WHAT HE SAYS.
With respect, let me make a few points very clear to you: I am not opposed to the fund raising activity for Ernest or the APC(whatever,it is).All what I said and will continue to say is that Ernest Koroma like all other political parties leaders must properly account for very single penny he receives.
It is very important that we hold our leaders and parties to this high standard,so that we will prevent special interest monies from filtering into our political parties and also prevent the misuse of our funds.
I know that the words"ACCOUNTABILTY AND TRANSPARENCY" are not part of the APC vocabulary,but please,forgive me, I am only trying to inject something new and good for your party.
To prove to you that I am fair, very soon, I will hand over to you a copy of the audited financial report of my party- THE WINNING SLPP.
I encourage you to ask the more active members of the APC,North America branch,I am sure that they will attest to the fact that I have attended almost all the fund raising activities in the USA for Ernest Koroma.It will be interesting for you to know that since your party will never respect time,whenever I attend your functions, I will patiently wait for hours past the stated time, before you guys will start.
That is what makes us in the SLPP very unique,we do not have enemies, we have opponents who are also our brothers and sisters.
Subject: Re: ERNEST KOROMA IS COMING TO THE U.S. FOR HIS LAST CHOP MONEY.
From: virginian
To: All
Date Posted: 20:26:44 05/23/07 ()
Email Address:
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look who is talking about money, saidu you are the most dishonest person on the face of the earth, why dont you crawl into a hole and drink some rat poison and die. you are wasting our earth oxygen by breathing in air. you steal from people and runaway from paying rent. whenever you open your smelly mouth, only gabbage spew from it. why dont you change your filthy ways, as nobody has anything good to say about you once they come in contact with you. i am tired of you attacking people in this forum that can keep a job and do not steal from women. you are useless, hopeless, bastardly idiot go get a serious life and job and i meant serious life and job that does not include being a fake imam
Subject: Re: ERNEST KOROMA IS COMING TO THE U.S. FOR HIS LAST CHOP MONEY.
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 15:53:28 05/22/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
The level of petty mindedness is astounding. Is this the calibre of people we have in our midst. If I am a san san boy fulumuku, flunkey, etc then who are YOU? Kabbah? Berewa? Etc?
“What is wrong is when through official government Memoranda, we ask all Managing Directors; Principals of Schools; Permanent Secretaries; Senior Government Civil servants and all Paramount Chiefs to contribute a certain amount towards the election campaign of the incumbent party:” If that sentence is true, then what is wrong here is VERY VERY WRONG and obviously against the law of the land.
“What is even worse and borders on illegality, is when the incumbent uses World Bank loans and donor resources meant for providing basic services to the people to undertake political campaigns”
Why mince words with such timidity about CRIMINAL behaviour?
Ladies and Gentlemen, please allow the APC to do their fundraising in peace and by the way $ 200,000 is nothing, or next to nothing……..
It is now a part of popular imagination and the public consciousness that Mr. Kabbah brought peace to Sierra Leone (and with that understanding, the poor, war-weary and long-suffering people” voted overwhelmingly for the SLPP
Unfortunately the goodwill donations and loans and the solid international backing that the people of Sierra Leone/the SLPP govt have received are equated with good SLPP governance and seen exclusively as the good work of the people in power. But ask them,”Where would you be without the great support of the International community?"
If the APC had been in power the last ten years and in charge of our extensive mineral and other resources, would similar progress have been made? Would the corruption have been less? More?
We should not base our judgment of the present APC on the performance of other APC people of the past. It was because of the failure – of Albert Margia’s SLPP that the people of Sierra Leone got wise and voted the SLPP out of office in 1967.
Since then, many things have happened on the African continent, in Nigeria, in Ghana, in Guinea, the Gambia, in Uganda, Kenya, and South Africa, in Angola, Namibia, Algeria, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, the Sudan, Zimbabwe, and Congo.
It’s not the same African world and there is zero tolerance for military rule…… but just look at the recently concluded Nigerian elections Sierra Leone would get away with but a fraction of the infringements and electoral fraud that International and local observers say Nigeria is guilty of.
Subject: Re: ERNEST KOROMA IS COMING TO THE U.S. FOR HIS LAST CHOP MONEY.
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 14:37:08 05/22/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Olu Must you respond to any and every clown who wants recognition? Man you give some people too much credibility. You and Buford ought to save your very coget arguments for those who are more educated and not just low grade noise makers, and great big ole BLABBER MOUTHS, and UNGRATEFUL WRETCHES.
Subject: Re: ERNEST KOROMA IS COMING TO THE U.S. FOR HIS LAST CHOP MONEY.
From: ALIEU ,THE EDUCATED MAN.
To: All
Date Posted: 06:59:31 05/23/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Alieu Iscandari-The educated man who got tax payers money his father stole while serving as a minister,went to a remote school in San Francisco,CA, only to have 2 weak alphabets behind his name.Since,governor Clarkson's prayer will always be effective,today Alieu,is nothing but an idle,unproductive mediocre lawyer.He seats behind a big brown table,with an out dated computer that has an internet service paid for by Kipi(who works 2 jobs to take care of ALIEU and their family, in his dirty living room(not a law office).He has no client, because nobody wants to give a case to a drugs addict.
Alieu Iscandari-The educated man who finds pleasure in insulting the most respectable parents of his lovely wife.
Pointing out that he is mad because Kipi's father was a honorable Imam,while his father,Abdul Iscandari is a drunkard and an useless "SANTIBOW CAT".
Alieu Iscandari-The only educated man who disrespected his mother,EBUN,forcing the poor woman to migrate to Maryland,where she lanquished for a long time.Got a job as a maid in a private house,collected enough money and went back to Freetown.Then,took an oath that she will never come back to the USA,because she does not want her"unblessed son,Alieu,to continue disrespecting her.
Alieu,if you are a symbol of an educated man then all uneducated people must thank God because they have in- built moral-values that will never allow them to act like you.
But,since,being educated disallows people to act like you,please,stop referring to yourslef as an educated element.
Subject: Re: ERNEST KOROMA IS COMING TO THE U.S. FOR HIS LAST CHOP MONEY.
From: Foday Kamara (aka PROZAC)
To: All
Date Posted: 12:00:08 05/23/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Saidu everyone knows that you are the person who is writing these things against Alieu and his father. But didnt you stay with these people and didnt his parents take care of you as a child, pay your school fees feed you etc etc.
You say Alieu has two weak Alphabets behind his name, okay what do YOU have? Weak or not? Alieu has represented me and other members of my family and we were impressed. So what are you doing with your life other than destroying it with that PROZAC that you are on.
Becareful man I heaar that you are a strong candidate for loosing your mind. You geh for crase before you die nar dis country because like we say in this great beautiful country " God dont like Ugly.
Saidu Have you wondered why it is that you have been in the US for so long, almost 10 years now and you do not seem to be making any progress with your life and you are more than 40 years old? It is because your ATTITUDE has determined your ALTITUDE. You are going no where in life and that can be seen from your attitude.
We will all be around to see how you progress and when we have the opportunity, we will remind you of these days.
Subject: Re: ERNEST KOROMA IS COMING TO THE U.S. FOR HIS LAST CHOP MONEY.
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 19:55:59 05/23/07 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
Entered From: c-69-143-240-17.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.240.17
Message:
FODAY,I lived with Alieu's parents for 3 years only because I had a blind love for them and not because my parents(Mr.Sheka Bangura,who at that time was General Manager at WHITEX,NP and Haja Ojufinie,who at that time was an accountant at the min.of agriculture)can not take care of me.I thank God that Olu Beckley knows my caring father,I call on Olu to go verify what I am saying with my dad.
In all the 3 years that I stayed with the Iscandaris, my parents took good care of me.If it is true the Alieu mother lives with him, I beg you to ask her and whatever she tells you, please,let me know(my cell no.301-442-1200)and I will call her up myself to verify.
While I was in the home of the Iscandaris they were broke and can not even take care of themselves.My stay with them was a salvation to the whole family.They lived by the good will of friends like my mom and my late grand-mother.Whenever you go to Freetown,please,go to 5,Mountain Cut,ask for my mom,she will show letters she received from Alieu's father asking for financial help.
Also, If you give me your address,I will mail to you copies of all school fees receipts my father got when he paid my fees.I request that Alieu or anybody in his family produce a receipt for one penny they paid for anything for me, while I lived with them.
Alieu was not in Freetown,when I lived with his parents,so disbelieve all what he tells you.
I had left their house many years before his dad became minister of government(on only time things became better for them).
Alieu,once reminded me of a time my good mom provided a pair of shoes for him because his parents were broke.
I ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA do not owe the entire Abdul Iscandari family anything.If they are not forgetful people they owe me a lot of gratitude.
Subject: Re: ERNEST KOROMA IS COMING TO THE U.S. FOR HIS LAST CHOP MONEY.
From: virginian
To: All
Date Posted: 20:40:13 05/23/07 ()
Email Address:
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saidu I thought your mother was assistant comissioner of income tax now she was also an accountant at mins of agriculture concurrently . wow she must be very educated to have serve under such lucrative jobs at the same time.your father must also be a good bookeeper for him to still keep your high school reciept and you bringing all of those documents to USA with you. whose daddy are you now claiming i thought your dad and his junior wife (since your mother is the senoir wife and has been with your dad for over forty years) aunty princess live in LONDON for the pass 20 years
friend stop over rapping and crawl into a black hole because LIARS SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE GOOD MEMORIES.
Subject: Re: ERNEST KOROMA IS COMING TO THE U.S. FOR HIS LAST CHOP MONEY.
From: PA ALHAJI SAVAGE
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Date Posted: 11:57:54 05/23/07 ()
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SAIDU IF U NOR COMOT BEHEN ALIEU,U GO CONTINUE FOR ALAKI LEK HOW U DAE ALAKI U SEF SO. A DAE NA AKUN MOHAMMADAN BUT AR DAE SEE EN YERRI ALL D LIE LIE WAY U DAE SPREAD BOT ME SON IN LAW.AR GO CONTINUE FOR READ SURAH UL LA'AB FOR U.
GO FEN MAMI BLESSING FROM U MAMA FINI.
Subject: Re: ERNEST KOROMA IS COMING TO THE U.S. FOR HIS LAST CHOP MONEY.
From: Olu Beckley
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Date Posted: 09:37:26 05/23/07 ()
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THE EDUCATED MAN writes: "Alieu Iscandari-The educated man who got tax payers money his father stole while serving as a minister,went to a remote school in San Francisco, CA, only to have 2 weak alphabets behind his name".
All on this forum will agree with me if I say Allieu is indeed an educated man. He has a degree; has general knowledge about many subjects and ideas and (everything about his legal speciality); can analyze, understand, form an opinion, and communicate information sensibly with others.
THE EDUCATED MAN writes: "He seats behind a big brown table,with an out dated computer"
I have been to Allieu's Oakland California legal chambers and home, and I am very proud of his accomplishments.There is nothing that ones needs to efficiently carry out his work that he does not have.
I dont want to touch on his personal life but I do know Allieu's parents (from our Maforki days) and have always admired the bond that exists between father/mother and son, not to talk about his lovely wife Kipi and kids.
Let us address the issues and stop attacking personalities, to make this forum the best ever.
Educated Man, nothing stops you from attending a remote college or buying a degree if you think you need one!!
Subject: Re: ERNEST KOROMA IS COMING TO THE U.S. FOR HIS LAST CHOP MONEY.
From: WAA
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Date Posted: 09:26:03 05/23/07 ()
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SAIDU WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF YOU AND YOUR DISRESPECT OF ALIEU AND HIS FAMILY. BETER WATCH YOUR BACK IN THE EAST COAST BECAUSE WE ARE ALL LOOKING FORWARD TO KICK YOUR URINE STENCHED SELF
Subject: Re: ERNEST KOROMA IS COMING TO THE U.S. FOR HIS LAST CHOP MONEY.
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq.
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Date Posted: 08:18:29 05/23/07 ()
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I was expecting the response that you gave but funny that you did not post it under your own name ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA You scum bag. My mother lives with me right now as we speak you sucm of the earth.
Subject: Re: ERNEST KOROMA IS COMING TO THE U.S. FOR HIS LAST CHOP MONEY.
From: sp
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Date Posted: 20:41:10 05/22/07 ()
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
alieu you hit it right on the spot.
Subject: Re: ERNEST KOROMA IS COMING TO THE U.S. FOR HIS LAST CHOP MONEY.
From: BUFORD HWY
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Date Posted: 12:20:14 05/22/07 ()
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"It is very interesting to note that Ernest Koroma is only coming to raise funds for himself and not for the party?"
Saidu,you are really truely DUMB.Which party is Ernest Koroma represnting? APC.
Saidu we raise funds,because we believe in the CAUSE for zero torrelance in CORRUPTION,whilst your Pa BEREWA steals our money from our COFFER.
When Berewa came to Atlanta last year,were you allowed to ask these questions? The answer is HELL NO,because knowing your BIG MOUTH,his children BANNED you from entering his room at the HILTON HOTEL on Virginia ave for fear you might say something about his STINKING DIABETIC PENDA/SOREFOOT.
WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS TO GET A JOB AND START SAVING FOR THE AMNESTY PROGRAM FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS,AND WHILE YOU ARE THERE,TAKE ANNIES HUSBAND WITH YOU.
Subject: Re: ERNEST KOROMA IS COMING TO THE U.S. FOR HIS LAST CHOP MONEY.
From: HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA FUNNY
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Date Posted: 11:24:38 05/22/07 ()
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Our people in the USA are not fools, they are very industrious people(they work hard for they monies).
hahahahahahahahahaha ONLY SOME IF THEM WORK HARD FOR THE MONIES. THE OTHERS JUST LAZE AROUND AND OLD THEUR HANDS OUT BEGING LIKE THOSE BEGGARS YOU SEE AT THE JUNCTION OF MOUNTAIN CUT AND KISSY ROAD CLOSE TO SAIDU BANGURAS MOTHERS HOUSE NUMBER 4 MOUNTAIN CUT.
Subject: Re: ERNEST KOROMA IS COMING TO THE U.S. FOR HIS LAST CHOP MONEY.
From: foday mansaray
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Date Posted: 13:48:52 05/22/07 ()
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Hello Guys, please dont give John leigh something to say again about san san boys.Although we gro up na pan body lek emerson say we na bobor pain.This is the very reason we need to prove that democracy is not for the previledge elite but for those who work hard and persevere .You can become anything you want to become.
Democracy is the only way out especially for Berewa.Please tell him to mind the door. ooopos"
Let it be known that the term of office of this SLPP PRESIDENCY ends yesterday 11:59 pm.As far as we know they are on borrowed time.I pray they follow the simple rule of mathamatics when you borrow you must
CARRY in its original stage.I mean our vechicles,
the treasury,spoons, niddle and thread and so on.We are sending you the Inventory list and please if you need help we will despatch my good friend salia jusu sheriff.He is an expert in transition.
Bussiness as usual no way Jose'.
Subject: CEC FAST-TRACKS SALONE/GUINEA ROAD CONSTRUCTION
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Date Posted: 09:25:44 05/22/07 ()
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CEC FAST-TRACKS SALONE/GUINEA ROAD CONSTRUCTION
The contract was signed between the Sierra Leone Government, the European Union (the National Authorizing Office (NAO)) and Civil Engineering Company that is constructing the road between Gbere Junction and Pamlap in Guinea.
Shortly after the signing of the agreement, the civil Engineering Company commenced operations from Gbere Junction heading for the Guinea border.
The workforce of the company was recruited from the area with only few expatriates consisting of French Nationals.
In an exclusive interview with the Personnel Manager of the Company on Wednesday, May 16th 2007 at his Port Loko office, Abdul K. Bangura said that the Company initially had a workforce of three hundred and sixteen but because of the bulk of work already completed, coupled with the advent of the rainy season in many workers, notably the labourers have been redundant to enhance effective work.
He told journalist that his company was the highest paid in the country and possibly, second highest paid in the sub-Region in the road construction industry/sector.
Mr. Bangura however noted that the employment system in his company was done strictly on the basis of qualification and need.
He went on to say that there is hardly any industrial or other accidents occurring at the work sites and that any such incidents in the company were given utmost attention by the company’s management in Freetown.
He also dwelled on the company worker’s enrolment with the National Social Security and Insurance Trust (NASSIT) and other related insurance agencies to enhance and ensure the safety and help of each and every worker within the company.
Mr. Bangura however lamented that NASSIT Makeni and or NASSIT Freetown has not fully covered the entire company staff, in that, according to him, some staff have not received their documents which makes them believe that they may not be fully covered by NASSIT.
Speaking with the Chief Security of the company, Mr. Bobor Pessima, he said he had twenty-four well trained securities in the company under his command.
Mr. Pessima noted that his men worked around the clock to ensure the safety of properties and lives of the company. He further said that there was as yet no reported case of theft in the company.
In the Mechanic Section, one Joseph Aruna said the company was an international one and therefore needed to put the country (Sierra Leone) on the global map in the area of road construction within the construction industry.
Mr. Aruna told journalists that there were eight well trained and qualified mechanics in the employ of the company who worked assiduously to achieve the goal of Civil Engineering Company, to build a first class highway to Guinea as part of the African transcontinental road network.
Speaking to the Laboratory Technician at the garage, Mr. Aruna Tarawally said that they conducted test on all construction materials being used by the company either along the road or on bridges and culverts.
Explaining the ingredient and mixture of the material used, Mr. Tarawally said they prepared and tested the 0/3, 5/14, 14/20 aggregates plus river sand and special cement for bridge and culvert construction.
He said it is only CEC that has a strong cement concrete tester machine to test all road and bridge construction materials before been used.
Mr. Tarawally further informed the press that the workers in the CEC laboratory were qualified and that they tested the soil of the proposed route as well before doing any road or bridge construction.
He cited an instance of the upper Bankasoka Bridge to have a guarantee of 0-50 years before any fault or gravity problem occurs there; inspite of all odds (heavy duty vehicles plying over it, heavy down pour of rain, the Bankasoka Bridge will remain stable for at least fifty years).
He said they had a laboratory consultant engineer, Madam Fiancine, who is said to have outlined and strategize all construction materials to correct standards of chemistry and geographical nomenclature for durability, standardization and class distinction.
Mr. Tarawally on behalf of the laboratory technicians however called on the company management to speedily provide them with protective work materials and equipment such as rain boots, overalls, cod-liver oil, milk etc, as these are very essential to the laboratory workers.
At the upper Bankasoka Bridge in Port Loko town where the New Citizen and the African Champion Journalists (Joshua Kawa and Charles Carney) visited the CEC workers were seen engaged in preparing the floor of the bridge for the final stage of pouring concrete material.
The Site Supervisor, at the bridge, Mr. Caladal informed the journalists that the bridge in question would be completed in twenty days time. He also said that they had constructed four culverts and two bridges up to Mange Bureh area despite the disturbances of the rains. He further said he had a workforce of forty persons on the bridge construction.
The Surveyor of the road, Ibrahim Sannoh, giving the dimension and geographical sketch of the bridge said that the bridge was 10.9 meters wide, 56.78 meters long and 1.4 meters thick. He added that the bridge had four wing walls and two piers (pier one and two) with abortments one and two. He said they were now reinforcing the mat of the bridge before the rains set-in.
He also informed journalists that the road had four lanes with shoulders on either sides of the road.
The Civil Engineering Construction Company (CEC) works with international equipment such as bulldozers, front wheel loaders otherwise known as compactor roller, excavators, graders among several others.
The Civil Engineering Construction Company (CEC) has successfully worked and made a name for itself through its engineering excellence in Israel where they constructed a tunnel.
CEC had also worked in Jerusalem, Lebanon, Nigeria and many other European and African countries, including Sierra Leone, where they are now constructing an international highway from Gbere Junction to Guinea (18km in the heart of Guinea) to join the ECOWAS road network linking Senegal, Mali, Ghana etc.
Sylvanus and Romano are the brains behind the company in Sierra Leone. They are doing everything possible to ease the plight of commuters between Sierra Leone and Guinea and other African countries.
Mr. Sylvanus, Manager of the company, informed Journalists at their Murray Town office in Freetown on May 15 that they would break silent as soon as the road construction work was completed in grand style. He pointed out that he was a great fighter for social parity for the under developed Sierra Leone.
A stakeholder of the company that is, the Sierra Leone Roads Authority (SLRA), when contacted for comments on the Sierra Leone/Guinea road construction, a senior officer of the SLRA categorized the Guinea/Sierra Leone road as a development issue now coming to reality.
The Director General of SLRA, Alhaji Ishmael M. Kebbay, when contacted to throw light on the much talked about Gbere Junction/Guinea road construction said that they were highly concerned about every road construction network in the country, notably and principally the Sierra Leone/Guinea road which links Sierra Leone to other African countries.
Alhaji Kebbay noted that this window of opportunity for Sierra Leoneans to travel faster and safely to other African countries as and when the need arises, adding SLRA was not mono-focal and parochial about any road construction in the country.
He then referred Journalists to Adolphus Jackson who was in charge of the said road construction, but Mr. Jackson was not available for comments.
However, another senior SLRA source told the press that as far as this road construction was concerned, SLRA was not hiding under the cloak of anyone, but faces the reality of times to expunge the ills of road construction.
However, highly placed independent source close to the Ministry of Works says there is a tussle between Sierra Leone and Guinea as to where the boundary for Sierra Leone should stop.
The source continues to say that this will be another bottleneck if not a bone in flesh for CEC to complete its fast track road construction.
It also maintains that CEC will speed up the work after the rains but the problem of where to peg its boundary limitation is the million dollar question.
Subject: KOIDU HOLDINGS REACT TO CJM
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KOIDU HOLDINGS REACT TO CJM
He pointed out that the company saw the need to resettle the people as the rainy season was about to start. He disclosed to media practitioners and civil society organizations present that the houses which had been constructed for the affected have now been fully occupied by the beneficiaries.
The owners of the houses and representatives of the company, officials of the Ministry of Lands, Housing and Country Planning and also the paramount chief of Tankoro Chiefdom had witnessed the signing of the document concerned with the handing over of the property to the affected person
The signing ceremony was followed by the handing over of Agricultural compensation such as garden and tree crops for the loss of agriculture farm produce as a result of the blasting.
He further showed documents signed by affected property owners to civil society organizations, media practitioners about their various plans, including a six bedroom house plan owned by the former Chairman of the Affected Properly Owners Association (APOA), Pa Kai D. M’boima, who had willingly signed his house plan and had also received his Agricultural Compensation.
Sadiq Silla, reacting to a press release issued on 12th May 2007 from a Non-Governmental Organisation, Campaign For Just Mining said that the taskforce of that NGO in Kono District had made tremendous efforts to put up sixty (60) to seventy (70) dwelling houses over a three year period.
In the press release, the taskforce expressed concern over the non-availability of the basic amenities even though the company had handed over the dwelling houses to the affected persons.
“In addition”, the press release added, “the entire community has no provision for safe drinking water. Water is life, it is a necessity.”
According to the release, the Campaign for Just Mining
Taskforce had expected Koidu Holdings SA to have provided a number of bore holes for the residents of the community which would have cost the company less.
The taskforce viewed that as a gross abuse of the right of the affected community, depriving them of safe drinking water.
Responding to the press release, the Chief Administrative Officer of the Koidu Holding SA also said that the release was false and untrue adding that since the structural resettlement process started in November 2005 to now, improvements have been made for the beneficiaries.
According to the Chief Administrative Officer, twenty (20) family heads have already moved to the new re-settlement sites as on the daily basis affected people moved their families and themselves and willingly demolished their houses after being moved to the new site. He further disclosed that few houses were not completed to the teeth, but everyday, they were sure of finishing a house, and the owner of the finished house will come to the company and signed his or her document to make legal and binding.
Sadiq Silla said the issue of safe drinking water as reported by Campaign for Just Mining taskforce in Kono district was under control as he revealed that to every four (4) to six (6) houses, there is a water well with clean and safe drinking water. In addition to the wells provided by Koidu Holdings some individuals are also digging their personal water wells for themselves and appealed to Civil Society to go to the resettlement site and see things for themselves before attacking the company which he believed was working in a transparent manner and everybody is being encouraged to go and see the operations of the company.
He revealed that since November 2005, there were not dealing with Affected Property Owner Association (APOA) headed by Kai D. Mboma, which he said had been used by the Network Movement For Justice and Development (NMJD) adding that they were dealing with individual affected property owners which he said has been successful as the new approach to solving problems.
He said District Coordinator, Patrick Tongu, who is putting Pa Mboma on the wrong track as he Pa Mboma has agreed to move to the resettlement.
This indicates that most of the critics of blasting have been resettled at the Kania site and most of the affected property owners have been employed directly by Koidu Holdings and are now benefiting from the company directly.
He pointed out that former chairman of Affected Property Owners Association, Pa Kai D. Mboma and two of his sons are presently working for the company at the resettlement site in senior positions.
In the press release, Campaign For Just Mining taskforce mentioned that they see the open politicization of the operation of a company that does not respect the right of the people and does not live up to its corporate social responsibility as unfortunate.
Why should a foreign corporate mining entity’s operation be so much politicized and the citizens continue to suffer? Chief Administrative Officer of Koidu Holdings SA, enjoys the support of the government of the day adding that in 2004 the President of the Republic of Sierra Leone Alhaji Dr. Ahmad Tejan Kabbah after the war said that Koidu Holdings South Africa was the first company to come back and start its operations in Sierra Leone which also gave signals to other investors to have confidence that Sierra Leone had regained peace.
Sadiq Silla disclosed that company had contributed eight hundred million dollars (US$ 800, 000, 000) to the government coffers. He further said he believed as a business company that their doors were always open to receive everybody, politicians, paramount chiefs, civil society organizations, members of the fourth estate, etc.
Speaking on social responsibility, Koidu Holdings assisted the Tankoro chiefdom where they are operating by committing themselves to the rehabilitation of roads and responding to small projects in Tankoro Chiefdom, by assisting polio victims in the township.
In his response the district coordinator for the Network Movement for Justice and Development NMJD, Patrick Tongu, said he believed that coming to Koidu Holdings SA was to see how they could start dialogue instead of attacking them.
Adding that Network Movement For Justice and Development is a recognized institution advocating for the rights of individual people, who do not have access to information and justice.
District Coordinator of the Brave Heart, Madam Aminata Konteh, also responded to the release issued circulated by campaign for just mining task force Kono District, that has defected from the Campaign for just mining task force. She said she was public relation officer of Campaign for Just Mining in Kono (CJM).
When they started the campaign they noticed that the affected community were grumbling, and they were concerned as part of their responsibility, they decided to go to Koidu Holdings SA which she revealed they were given audience and later went with 17 organisations to the company’s operational area to see for themselves their operations and later were taken to the resettlement site where they later made some recommendation to the company.
She disclosed to media practitioners and civil society that they were going to the community to know their problems so that they can push the company to look into the issues as their organization is to resolve issues between the company and property owners but pointed out that while they joined forces with Network Movement for Justice and Development they realized that Network Movement for Justice and Development was focusing in attacking Koidu Holdings SA which they believed did not fall in line with them because one cannot continue setting fire all the time, without finding a solution on how to amend the situation of the affected property owners.
District Coordinator Brave Heart who responded about the land provided by Koidu Holdings SA said they requested a piece of land from Koidu Holdings SA and they were issued land to Brave Heart, Akom Private School, Assembly of God Church, land for a police post, and for a mosque.
She further revealed that Brave Heart is taking care of street children and youth, women whom they wanted to relocate so that they be taken care of in the District.
In an exclusive interview with the former chairman of the Affected Property Owners Association, Pa. Kai D. Mboma, revealed to the New Citizen in Kono after the press briefing that he had willingly signed his house document and had accepted his Agricultural compensation package from Koidu Holdings SA. When further asked when he was going to move to the new resettlement site, Pa Kai D. Mboma said he would move on Tuesday 22nd May 2007, to join his colleagues and if anybody wanted to see him after Tuesday, he would be at the New resettlement site.
Pa. Kai D. Mboma lamented when further asked about the functioning of his organization former chairman replied, that most of his colleagues had moved to the settlement site.
Christopher Freeman, one of the affected property owners, has commended Koidu Holdings SA, for bringing the resettlement site to the New Site adding, “we can not go out of our houses again as we are very pleased with the construction of the resettlement houses and even the water wells been provided by Koidu Holdings SA.
Posted on 22 May 2007
Subject: Re: KOIDU HOLDINGS REACT TO CJM
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 09:05:20 05/22/07 ()
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Sadiq Silla disclosed that company had contributed eight hundred million dollars (US$ 800, 000, 000) to the government coffers. He further said he believed as a business company that their doors were always open to receive everybody, politicians, paramount chiefs, civil society organizations, members of the fourth estate, etc.
Sure we apreciate the doors being open, now how about the books. If 3% = $800 million, then what is 97%. Ge I shudder to think. We need to see the agreement signed by the government. Only when the whole deal is fully TRANSPARENT would we have peace on the issue. Until then, there are those of us who believe that the people of sierra leone are being shafted courtesy of the SLPP.
Subject: Re: KOIDU HOLDINGS REACT TO CJM
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Date Posted: 09:09:35 05/22/07 ()
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It is a typo. He meant 80 million dollars. Again you guys are missing the point. The 3% is for artesenal mining. Koidu Holdings pay corporate tax, chiefdomd tax and other payments. They also pay 30% of their pprofit to gov't coffers.
Pa Alimamy who mines dimond in Kono will only give the gov't 3% if he is lucky enough to find any diamonds. May be trying to limit artesenal mining and encourage big companies to come in and operate in a transparent manner will be a good idea.
Subject: Re: KOIDU HOLDINGS REACT TO CJM
From: M. Alieu Iscandai Esq
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Date Posted: 09:24:46 05/22/07 ()
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May be trying to limit artesenal mining and encourage big companies to come in and operate in a transparent manner will be a good idea.
Then again may the better idea should be to NATIONALISE the diamond minning industry, preclude all non nationals from resideny within the areas of diamond operations, and enforcement of any lqws of preclusion.
Subject: Cry Freetown: You Deserve Better than Berewa
From: Saidu Daphay Turay
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Date Posted: 07:39:10 05/22/07 ()
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Mr. John Leigh:
Having digested your comment on the article "Cry Freetown: You Deserve Better than Berewa, I am still pondering about the type of politics you've cultivated during the wasted years you spent in the western world. At least the JC's (Just Cam) who have seen, studied and experience western politics seems to do better when addressing political issues in Sierra Leone. Your continues tribalistic, sacarstic and irresponsible innuendos against the oppostion-APC and the Limbas of Sierra Leone will never be tolerated. There is no article that you post in Cocorioko that you don't use insulting words either to member of the oppostion parties (APC PMDC)or tribes from the north without using insulting invectives. The SLPP party you pretend to act as propagandist don't even know whether you exist. So using this medium to gain attention by writing confusing, illogical and senseless statements not only exposes your immaturity but begs the question as to the level of education you attained for the SLPP government to have given you an international position of trust that demands decency, civility, sanity. Remember, even if the SLPP rigs the election and wins, bear in mind that there is no room for you to be accepted or given a position of trust in that government. I know, you being a failure in the United States want to use the opposition parties as trump cards through irresponsible statements against them to advance your selfish motives. The worst thing that sometimes angers me is the use of this forum to question the educational backgroud of individuals. Can you post your bio-data or resume in this forum so that we can digest your educational achievements? Mind you- the achievements of the opposition party leaders both educationally or socially can not be equated to what you purport to achieve in the United States. I leave you with these words of William Arthur Ward. "Leadership is based on inspiration, not on domination; on cooperation, not on intimidation. This what we need in Sierra Leone today.
Subject: Re: Cry Freetown: You Deserve Better than APC
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 09:15:24 05/22/07 ()
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Below is my explanation of the Events of January 1999 in response Mr. FODAY MANSARAY's claims that Mr. Saidu Daphay Turay Mumbo-Tombo-Dumbo Munku is complaining about in his rubbish posting here. Please judge for yourself if you will ever trust Sahid Jamil's personable but dull peggy-boy to lead our country in these trying times. Thank you. - JL
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CRY FREETOWN: YOU DESERVE BETTER THAN THE APC!
© By John E. Leigh, Sierraleone Peoplespress, Freetown
MR. FODAY MANSARY, in his Cocorioko piece last Thursday titled: CRY FREETOWN: YOU DESERVE BETTER THAN SOLOMON BEREWA has correctly described the catastrophic situation during the January 1999 invasion of Freetown by a combined force of AFRC/RUF/NPLF thugs that littered bodies and caused unspeakable sufferings all over our capital city.
But when we understand the real background that produced that terrible situation, we will conclude that the last thing Sierra Leone needs today is another APC regime.
Rather, electing Solomon Berewa and returning the SLPP to power will be seen as the only responsible solution come the August 11, 2007 elections.
If you will recollect, as a prelude to the January 1999 mayhem, two-thirds of the SL Army revolted and/or joined the Johnny Paul Koroma led-revolt of May 25, 1997 against our elected government. The renegade soldiers stated that they don't want what they termed ‘Mendecracy’ (i.e. a government that resulted from multiparty elections). Rather, they said they wanted PEACE. But their idea of peace was to deal more violence to the civilian population.
For your information, Johnny Paul Koroma was a St. Edwards Secondary School dropout from ex-President Momoh's hometown (Binkolo, Bombali District) that the APC one-party government had favoristically and nepotistically awarded a military scholarship to study military tactics in England while more qualified candidates were mindlessly marginalized. J. P. Koroma was just one among many fellow tribesmen deliberately packed inside the Sierra Leone military and police by the APC hegemonistic tribalistic government in the hope that those favored people would use our police and military forces to protect the APC One-Party regime in case of any popular insurrection.
Those low-quality favored boys constituted the leadership of the two-thirds of our military under the APC that was automatically inherited in 1996 by the first multiparty government and parliament elected in 30 years. It was this APC military-packed leadership of the two-thirds of our army that revolted under President Kabbah and established the destructive AFRC junta. And it was among this same faction that gave us the notorious sobels (bogus soldiers by day and deadly, raping and thieving rebel criminals at night) under the NPRC regime earlier on.
The AFRC'S idea of PEACE was to form an alliance with the blood-thirsty RUF that systematically killed, raped, beat, maimed and jailed their opponents and burnt, stole and confiscated the properties of ordinary people across our land over 11 years.
The AFRC/RUF criminals even stole from their own kind and took away the wives of their own relatives and colleagues. They sentenced Dr. James Jonah, Chief Justice Desmond Luke and this author to death; then they mounted bill boards offering a money bounty for our capture. They were totally mean-spirited, amoral and hellbent intent upon criminalizing state power.
After the criminal coupligans were evicted by ECOMOG/CDF in February 1998, they retreated to the diamond mines to regroup, rearm and to continue they desperate grab for the criminalization of political power. In Kono and Tongoh Field, they used brutal, forced labor to mine diamonds, forcing san-san boys, school children, teachers, farmers, policemen, traders, legitimate miners and women to mine diamonds around the clock until many of their victims dropped dead from over-work, floggings, dirty-drinking water and/or no food.
Foday Sankoh systematically sold the forced-labor-mined diamonds through a renegade Senegalese soldier, Gen Ibrahim Bah, to Charles Taylor at a huge discount and used the proceeds to buy large quantities of arms and war supplies across the globe from merchants of death through Charles Taylor. Things were so good and profitable for the RUF that Taylor ran a shuttle helicopter service linking Koidu and Monrovia to transport the looted diamonds and exchange messages. NPFL soldiers then transported the purchased weapons and supplies to Sierra Leone to the AFRC/RUF coupligans.
Following my frequent appearances on CNN, BBC radio & TV, ITV, Nigerian, South African TV, VOA, US TV & radio, etc., and in numerous speeches, briefings, Congressional lobbying sessions and press conferences in several states across America, the US Deputy Secretary of State finally called me in early 2000 to inform the Sierra Leone Embassy exactly what I have been saying publicly since the fall of 1997 and to provide the embassy with the exact details obtained by the CIA; viz: the violence in SLeone was (i) a war of plunder by the AFRC/RUF, (ii) the coupligans and the RUF were genocidal killers and (iii) that in 1999 alone Charles Taylor exported in excess of six million carats of diamond gemstones to Europe.
Again, part of the proceeds of those illicit diamond sales in Europe was used to buy weapons which Taylor then sold and transported at huge mark-ups to the AFRC/RUF criminals. A further part of those funds were used to provide diplomatic support for Liberia and the RUF worldwide against the elected government with a further portion used for Taylor’s security and to prop-up his regime in Liberia and the balance used for Taylor’s own personal self-enrichment.
And those were the criminals that entered Freetown in early January 1999 with new deadly weapons to free (i) AFRC coup collaborators such as ex-APC President Joseph Momoh, (ii) the tried and convicted coupligans and coupligans awaiting trial, (iii) several RUF monsters caught by the CDF and ECOMOG in Freetown and finally (iv) to create the very terrible conditions that Mr. FODAY MANSARAY has now described for us in his version of CRY FREETOWN.
I have said this before and I say it again today: President Tejan Kabbah and his key lieutenants, Solomon Berewa and James Jonah, did the most correct thing they could have done at the time and under the circumstances: they successfully placed themselves beyond harm's way and successfully counter-attacked and thus won the peace which we have been enjoying for the past several years.
The end-game that the SLPP Administration successfully devised because the SLPP leaders were smart enough to protect themselves from certain execution by J.P. Koroma’s goons was this: (i) the Lome (end-of-war) Accords, (ii) a big ($2.8 billion) UN Chapter VII Peace-keeping Mission in SLeone, the world’s largest ever, (iii) the demise of the RUF, (iv) the establishment of the UN-backed Special Court and the prosecution of alleged war criminals; (v) the inflow of humanitarian aid, (vi) a flourishing peace in Sierra Leone with multiparty democracy, (vii) the systematic re-start of economic and social development nationwide, (viii) the rebuilding of a democratic military based on merit and professionalism, not tribalism to foster hegemonistic tendencies, (ix) the return of the international community previously defrauded and constructively expelled by the APC and (x) last but not least, the coming 2007 elections.
Where was the present APC (and PMDC) leadership during this long period of trial and tribulations for the people of Sierra Leone?
Did they keep silent in the hope that the junta of Johnny Paul Disaster Koroma would prevail so that the APC would eventually resume power to continue their hegemonistic tribalism of marginalization, poverty spreading, Binkolo frolicking; favoritism, nepotism and merciless corruption, the zero maintenance of public assets, the packing of the military and the police, together with the general degradation of society?
VP Berewa was with President Kabbah and Dr. Jonah. But where was Mr. Ernest Koroma, the present APC leader throughout all this period and what was he doing to help?
I have met Mr. Ernest Koroma and I am sorry that his mentor, Mr. Sahid Jamil, was killed by pretend-RUF thugs. Mr. Koroma is very gentlemanly, nice and quite likeable but without more he is not going to win the popular vote. I do not see the requisite intellectual vigor in him. Besides, he is surrounded by KDDA marginalizers and Ekutay poverty spreaders, frolickers and a whole bunch of people with dubious backgrounds and incapacities – not to mention the heavy APC baggage of dragging our country down to failure and a barbaric war.
So when one looks at the AFRC/RUF events, the January 1999 invasion and the excellent results produced by the SLPP Administration in securing the peace and laying the foundation for economic development, Solomon Berewa becomes the most suitable candidate to succeed to the Presidency of Sierra Leone come August 11,2007. Thank you.
Subject: Re: Cry Freetown: You Deserve Better than APC
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JPK did 6th form work at St. Edwards in Freetown. NOt sure whether he graduated.
Subject: Re: Cry Freetown: You Deserve Better than APC
From: FODAY MANSARAY
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Date Posted: 22:13:48 05/23/07 ()
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Corrections acknowledged.
Subject: Re: Cry Freetown: You Deserve Better than APC
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 16:32:05 05/23/07 ()
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Please recheck your records. Mine is reliable. Sixth form and he still could not properly pronounce the name of his own country ("sha-sha shaleoln")as recently as 1998. - JL
Subject: Re: Cry Freetown: You Deserve Better than APC
From: Amadu Kargbo
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Date Posted: 10:56:09 05/22/07 ()
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Saidu, nothing exposes Joh Leigh's illogicality than the rubbish he offers in unresponsive reply to your damning questions about his integrity.
Instead of answering your questions, he offers a basless, ungrammatical screed that essentially glorifies the incompetent and corrupt SLPP leadership of Kabbah and Berewa for their incomptence and corruption.
No one who is familiar with Leigh's low intellect expectsw him to recognize the circularity that dooms his argument. So in the hope that soemone would be able to simplify it for him, I offer the folowing diagnosis of Leigh's nonsensical wirirng:
To praise the cowardly Kabbah and Berewa for runing away from the rebels while leaving the citizens of Freetown they were sworn to protect to the brutality of the bestial rebels is like praising a father for leaving his son to be murdered by thugs merely because the father returned with a coffin and money for a funeral with which to bury his son whom he had left alone to die at the hands of thugs.
It is this totally nonsensical argument that the man who never understands anything he reads or writes -- John Leigh -- ofrfers as a coherent argument!
Is it any wonder that he was kicked out as ambassador by Kabbah, despite his bribe of $10,0000, or that he didn't even garner a single vote at the SLPP convention in Makeni despite his $5,000 bribe to the delegates? The man is transparently idiotic.
Subject: Re: Cry Freetown: You Deserve Better than SLPP AND BEREWA
From: foday mansaray
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Date Posted: 15:07:27 05/22/07 ()
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Honarable Ambassador again, I am very pleased you have decided to start confronting realities to talk
about the major issues of my article cry freetown.Do you know Jusu Gortor?.Lets go back to the training camp days of valentine strasser,Bio and SAJ Musa etc at Benguma.Lets talk about what happened the day they came from liberia and Bo, under false pretence demonstrating for pay increases and better quality of life.These same soldiers you called low grade mentioned above overthrown a legally elected govt. with the help of who???????? ya .You will also agree with me that the APC equally employed statistically the same educational back ground Acrossed the Board. Is Mada or Musa.komba kambo,john milton,fala sewa ,tamba abu kelfala mara kekura marah just to name a few are theylimbas or member of A-cu-tae..Please stop preaching tribalism.
Every last officers who were commissioned from 1971 upto when momoh was overthrown was a dawn good soldiers .Who corrupted them? wooo .We had the finest soldiers in Africa and to your surprised they were mendes.konos, temne ,limbas krio fulas and so on. Go to wilberforce military Barracks and see the deplorable condition of our military families.This government have 10 years to prove they can build a structure not a foundation yet a buliding. what have they done? zip:::::::::::::::::::::::Hello are you still looking for you so called intellectual Ambassador Leigh.
since you talk about Johnny Paul(low grade). Do you know that 9 months rule of this defunk govt. gave Electricity supply 24/7,good water supply and started maintaining infrastructures such as roads ,plenty of rice and food at affordable price.
In life ,if you cannot do the fundamentals, you cannot achive nothing good. Forget the hipped this SLPP govt is a disgrace to human civilization.In 2007 you are installing well water pumps? in the city of freetown founded in 1808. Ambassador will not accept such humiliation.At your age and the age of Berewa and Kabba dont you think it your responsibility to defend generation yet unborn.What are we going to say to your grand children before you leave. 2007 I was busy installing well water pumps whilst SLPP patrons were privileged to drink clean water been delivered by who???.Shame,shame. No one have the right to cut public water supply for resale for profit to be shared by who, who and who.Why is the government not concerned about letting the water supply flow to the masses.......May God have Mercy on you.
I will present facts in the interest of Sierra Leone so that no high level diplomat or Military Personnel will ever used there influence to stage a coup on sierra leone agian..When you swear to uphold the constitution of sierra leone, was a trust, entrusted to you in DC and kabba in freetwon by the people.
We had enough of tribalism let as talk about the issues.SAJ Musa (may his soul rest in peace)is my brother and I stood up against him because I believed in Democracy .
Ambassador,I truley consider you among many a wise man and I trust you will have a change of hearth in the end about the policies of this defunk SLPP govt.You will be the Judge should the SLPP be given another day in office.
The struggle continues unbated
Foday Mansaray
Concerned Sierra Leone
Added on Date: 15:04:33 05/22/07
Subject: Re: Cry Freetown: You Deserve Better Berewa part11
From: foday mansaray
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Date Posted: 15:04:33 05/22/07 ()
Email Address: fmansaray@aol.com
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Honarable Ambassador again, I am very pleased you have decided to start confronting realities to talk
about the major issues of my article cry freetown.Do you know Jusu Gortor?.Lets go back to the training camp days of valentine strasser,Bio and SAJ Musa etc at Benguma.Lets talk about what happened the day they came from liberia and Bo, under false pretence demonstrating for pay increases and better quality of life.These same soldiers you called low grade mentioned above overthrown a legally elected govt. with the help of who???????? ya .You will also agree with me that the APC equally employed statistically the same educational back ground Acrossed the Board. Is Mada or Musa.komba kambo,john milton,fala sewa ,tamba abu kelfala mara kekura marah just to name a few are theylimbas or member of A-cu-tae..Please stop preaching tribalism.
Every last officers who were commissioned from 1971 upto when momoh was overthrown was a dawn good soldiers .Who corrupted them? wooo .We had the finest soldiers in Africa and to your surprised they were mendes.konos, temne ,limbas krio fulas and so on. Go to wilberforce military Barracks and see the deplorable condition of our military families.This government have 10 years to prove they can build a structure not a foundation yet a buliding. what have they done? zip:::::::::::::::::::::::Hello are you still looking for you so called intellectual Ambassador Leigh.
since you talk about Johnny Paul(low grade). Do you know that 9 months rule of this defunk govt. gave Electricity supply 24/7,good water supply and started maintaining infrastructures such as roads ,plenty of rice and food at affordable price.
In life ,if you cannot do the fundamentals, you cannot achive nothing good. Forget the hipped this SLPP govt is a disgrace to human civilization.In 2007 you are installing well water pumps? in the city of freetown founded in 1808. Ambassador will not accept such humiliation.At your age and the age of Berewa and Kabba dont you think it your responsibility to defend generation yet unborn.What are we going to say to your grand children before you leave. 2007 I was busy installing well water pumps whilst SLPP patrons were privileged to drink clean water been delivered by who???.Shame,shame. No one have the right to cut public water supply for resale for profit to be shared by who, who and who.Why is the government not concerned about letting the water supply flow to the masses.......May God have Mercy on you.
I will present facts in the interest of Sierra Leone so that no high level diplomat or Military Personnel will ever used there influence to stage a coup on sierra leone agian..When you swear to uphold the constitution of sierra leone, was a trust, entrusted to you in DC and kabba in freetwon by the people.
We had enough of tribalism let as talk about the issues.SAJ Musa (may his soul rest in peace)is my brother and I stood up against him because I believed in Democracy .
Ambassador,I truley consider you among many a wise man and I trust you will have a change of hearth in the end about the policies of this defunk SLPP govt.You will be the Judge should the SLPP be given another day in office.
The struggle continues unbated
Foday Mansaray
Concerned Sierra Leone
Subject: Re: Cry Freetown: You Deserve Better than APC
From: Saidu Daphay Turay
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Date Posted: 14:05:33 05/22/07 ()
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Mr. Amadu Kargbo,
There is no need responding to Mr. John Leigh, because having mortgage his intergrity since his demise as ambassador, his frustration is directed to descent and meaningful personalities in Sierra Leone. I believe his last resort is been sent to a mental institution to be diagnosed of his uncontrollable and erratic behavior. The politics of sycophancy and nepotism which the rulling party is practicing is what Mr. Leigh is trying to exploit to regain his lost glory. If Mr. Leigh is truly a man who has achieved in life he would not engage in bad mouthing the opposition or descent people instead he should be an example for people in the diaspora or in sierra Leone to emulate. However, as the saying goes, " you waste time by throwing water on ducks back," so Mr. Leigh should never be taken serious nor considered sober minded in the disposition of his insanity through his irrational and irresponsible publications or comments toward the opposition.
Subject: Re: Cry Freetown: You Deserve Better than APC
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 14:53:51 05/22/07 ()
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Mr. Saidu Daphay Turay, for an editor working in the English Language you have a hard time articulating your thoughts!
I have written a rebuttal to Mr. FODAY MANSARAY's: CRY FREETOWN. Etc. If there is any material error in my rebutall, please point them out one by one. Just don't make a blanket condemnation for what I have written has merit.
APC came to power when all those companies were florishing in our country. During APC's long incumbency, each one of them fled our shores except for Standard Chartered Bank and those expelled by the coup juntas. APC's monetary policy was insance. The railway was shut down. Whites fled our country. There was no food security. One tribe, one section of the country reigned supreme, etc., etc.
Why don't you defend your party by picking apart the case I made as I have done with Mr. MANSARAY's piece, rather than cussing me without pointing out my specific error in my piece that would alter the meaning of my article?
Man, you can't. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: Cry Freetown: You Deserve Better than APC
From: Saidu Daphay Turay
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Date Posted: 18:51:50 05/22/07 ()
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Mr. Leigh,
Defending my party or descent people in Sierra Leone as you wrongly mentioned is imprudent because engaging you in mudslinging and wrong statistics of wrong doings of the APC or personalities of which the SLPP contributed immensely is a waste of time. I will only engage you in an intellectual forum where the truth is seen which you refuse to see and acknowledge and senthesized with genuine facts and accuracy. But where your intention is to gain recognition for your selfish agrandizement it will be fool-hardy for me to educate you of real happenings in Sierra Leone. It has always been the lagacy of a man of your nature to malign, and destroy progressive people in Sierra Leone if they don't dance in your whims and caprices. Remember, the Sierra Leone you knew yester years is changed, so your old-time politics to gain recognition is no more in existence rather constructive approach to the pandemic issues of the country through dialogue and civility is appreciable instead of finger pointing or scapegoating.
Subject: I'M NOT APC BUT GIVE ME A REASON TO VOTE SLPP
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 03:10:14 05/22/07 ()
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Mr. Koroma's declaration came following a shocking incident for the Presidential aspirant when Sierra Leone Police Inspector Tommy denied his entourage an entry permit in Kangama to enter the crucial town of Yenga which is currently being occupied by Guinean troops. “We can’t stop our own people from going to Yenga because it is our land but the Guinean troops can’t allow our people to go there because they are claiming it as their land and that they can only allow Sierra Leonean to go to Yenga provided the person has a permit from authorities in Conakry,” Inspector Tommy told COCORIOKO.NET
Subject: Re: I'M NOT APC BUT GIVE ME A REASON TO VOTE SLPP
From: Pro
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Date Posted: 19:43:05 05/22/07 ()
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There has to be some wealth at YENGA. Any ideas?.
Someone please describe YENGA for us!!
Subject: Re: I'M NOT APC BUT GIVE ME A REASON TO VOTE SLPP
From: CADMUS
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Date Posted: 06:00:27 05/22/07 ()
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KING LOGGY,
The problem of Yenga can only be resolved by diplomatic process. Any other way will be counter-productive.To suggest otherwise is foolish and irresponsible. The SLPP government is pursuing that process with the international comunities..Don't fall for false promises.
King, If you really want to vote SLPP in the coming election,you should have read the 101 reasons given by the Hon John Leigh and Sengbe on this wonderful Cocorioko forum.
For my part, and to my mind,I will say you should vote SLPP because of the fact that Sa Lone is today enjoying a great bout of Democracy, freedom of speech, great Human Rights record all underlined by the preservation of the RULE OF LAW in the Country.
People are free to say and do what they wish, the press is free,to say what they want, some to their credit do inform, other will defame and tell lie, but that is what happens in a free society as Sa lone is today. Further on to that, there is no one currently held at Pademba Road for political reasons, and without Charges, or other legal recourse.We have no political prisoners in the Country. The Judiciary is enjoying such great independence which is on per to even the great Democracies in the world.
The maturity of a country is judged by its application of the Rule of Law.The rest are passport benefits.Once a Country is free, other benefits like economic developement ect will follow in time. People will invest in a Stable Democratic Country.The security of the country cannot be better.
Let us therefore retain the SLPP in power to so that we can continue to maintain the peace we are enjoying so far thus, preserve the freedom we have, and ensure the application of Rule of Law to pretect amongst other things our Human Rights.
KING...Do you need anymore reason...?
Subject: Re: I'M NOT APC BUT GIVE ME A REASON TO VOTE SLPP
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 13:42:26 05/22/07 ()
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CADMUS:
Indeed Yenga, considering the status of our military, can only be resolved diplomatically. The problem, however, is that Yenga now appears to be forever if at all any diplomatic process is ongoing considering the time and resources this SLPP administration is spending towards its presidential campaigning.
Moreover, Yenga is not only a security threat, but an ass kicking from a nation that showed no respect to Sierra Leonean refugees. How many administrations around the world that can get away with anything similar?
Talking about the preservation of human rights, you and I must be thankful to the IC for attaching strings to the SLPP's periodic stipend.
Subject: Re: I'M NOT APC BUT GIVE ME A REASON TO VOTE SLPP
From: BUFORD HWY
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Date Posted: 11:51:52 05/22/07 ()
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"King,if you really want to vote SLPP in the coming election,you should have read the 101 reasons given by the Hon John Leigh and Sengbe on this wonderful Cocorioko forum."
Cadmus,if the so-call 101 reasons are justifiable enough for you to stay with the SLPP,I will categorically tell you now that Salone do not need your EXPERTISE after the SUN assumes POWER.Any well EDUCATED or LAYMAN would know that Mr Leigh's so-call reasons are just his way of covering up the 10yrs of SLPP lack of productivity.When your SLPP party took over the country from your NPRC brothers,there was at least 12hrs of electricity in Salone and pipe burn water supply,but since your FAILED SLPP party took over,there is ZERO electricity supply in the city ,and even the BO/KENEMA ELCETRICITY PLANT is +/- 1 %supply.About a month ago your presidential candidate was praised for taken us to the WATER WELL DAYS of our GREAT GRAND PARENTS,and you are telling our people that is an accomplishment?
"Salone is today enjoying a great bout of Democracy,freedom of speech,great human rights records all underlined by the preservation of the RULE OF LAW in the country."
If that is the case,why is one of your SLPP Parliamentarian whose children went and killed HARRY YASSANEH still not brought to JUSTICE yet? Amnesty International and Human Rights watch described your SLPP government most recently as the WORST govt in MODERN HISTORY.What about OMRIE GOLLEY,is he not a POLITICAL PRISONER? Why is the Vice President running as the FLAG BEARER of your party when the CONSTITUTION says otherwise?
"Once a country is free,other benefits like economic development ect will follow in time."
Free of what, CORRUPTON,NEPOTISM/TRIBALISM of which your SLPPP party is known for as the worst in the world? To show how corrupt your Presidential candidate SOLOMON BEREWA is,his daughter who CRISS-CROSSES Salone with no known STABLE JOB or BUSINESS has ERECTED a 4 STOREY Mansion at the HILL COURT rd area.Where did she get all that money from,whilst the Vice President refuses to PAY his SECURITY DETAILS for TRIPS taken in the past SIX WEEKS OF HIS UPLAND/PROVINCES CAMPAIGN?
King,if the SLPP party can answer some of these questions HONESTLY to your satisfaction,then I say go CAST YOUR VOTE FOR THEM.
Subject: Re: I'M NOT APC BUT GIVE ME A REASON TO VOTE SLPP
From: Critical Thinker
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Date Posted: 10:21:54 05/22/07 ()
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The current SLPP admin. has squandered a valuable opportunity to turn things around. The future does not seem to be promising with Berewa. I strongly believe that SLPP is better positioned to win the next elections than most other parties. My greatest fear is that a Berewa Administration will be an extension of the status quo. The status quo is not working, has not produced results, and needs to be overhauled.. How can the people of Freetown drink clean water during the peak of war but colored water when the war is over? This administration has not effectively demonstrated your claim that development will follow when a country is free.
Subject: Re: I'M NOT APC BUT GIVE ME A REASON TO VOTE SLPP
From: DFID
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Date Posted: 11:37:12 05/22/07 ()
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CT,
Let us hope that the joint support from DFID and World Bank from 2008-2011 to implement a project that will provide safe drinking water to the people of Freetown.Hopefully the entire city will enjoy lclean and safe drinking water after this project.
Subject: Re: I'M NOT APC BUT GIVE ME A REASON TO VOTE SLPP
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 11:27:55 05/22/07 ()
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Mr. Critical Thinker:
The SLPP is certainly not 100% - yet but it is getting there. The party has problems but these are explored collegialy for resolution, not by one-manicly dombolo whim. All things consider, the future of our country under Berewa is certainly going to be far superior to that under any of his less-achieving rivals.
The Berewa Administration is not going to be an exact copycat continuation of the present SLPP Administration as you might be implying. VP Berewa has made it plain in public again and again as he opens new schools, markets and health clinics, sanitation facilities, water supply sources: only the good things (policies & deeds) under Prez Kabbah he will continue to pursue. He will then bring in his own different policies and deeds.
You claim that the status quo is not working and has produced no results. This is not true.
True, there are desappointments here and there but big positive things have been accomplished:
(i) Highways are being widened and hard-top surfaced. (ii) Basic infrastructures for social and economic development (news schools, markets, health clinics, sanitation facilities, water wells) are poliferating in areas across the country where none existed before or where the AFRC/RUF people caused major havoc.
(iii) The current government has won huge foreign exchange debt cancellations.
(iv) Businesses are returning to the country under the SLPP: such as banks (now about six to eight banks in the country), mobile phone systems all over the country, Airline, kimberlite mining, import houses, etc.
(v) European businesses and American Missionaries have started returning to SLeone. The Peace Corps is next. Tourists are returning. Hotels are doing good business. World class restaurants are poliferating.
(vi) Bus services nationwide is flourishing. For the first time in the history of our country, you can now travel by government buses from Freetown to Conakry Dee on the Guinea Border.
(vii) Government revenues from company taxes have begun
to grow for the first time since 1985.
(viii) Shool enrollment has substantially enlarged.
(ix)All school fees are retained in each school where collected to pay for that school's development and approved extra-curicular activities.
Hospitals are in better shape today that in the grime-filled smelly conditions Mr. Kabbah found them.
(x) The national currency is freely exchangeable. The days when SLeoneans under the APC were forced to travel
with only a few pounds or dollars is over. You can buy foreign exchange in dollars, sterling, Euros in the streets of all main towns or from banks and bureaus in the main cities.
(xi) Food security has improved. Most Sierra Leones are far healthier-looking today and weigh far more than they were under the APC - no more sucking breeze for dinner.
(xii)The current government brought restored democracy, free elections, fixed presidential terms of office - not pass-ah-die tenures, peace and building systematically on those gains.
I can on and on but I got to go in a few minutes.
The system needs major improvements, of course, but this overhaul should be done by the party that begun it and not by the party that destroyed our country or led by under-achievers who have flunked all their tests or by any leader surrounding himself with crookish cabals of political creeps and dummies.
You next asked: How can the people of Freetown drink clean water during the peak of war but colored water when the war is over?
Who said ALL the people of Freetown drank clean water during the war? The situation then was very similar to today's but there were more important things to complain about - like the violence of war, the rapes, maiming, arson, mayhem, coupligalism - than access to clean water.
Next, since the end of the war the population of Freetown and environs has inflated substantially. WAter demand has also substantially increase because of the poliferation of plubing fixtures that utilize more water per chore than our old primitive wash-yard, wahtah-pan system.
Further, part of the the watershed areas have been destroyed by illegal land occupancy, reducing the water flow to residential areas. But the government is responding with waterwells and the clearing of watershed illegal structures pending the procurement of funds for the construction of major water works.
With such a record, especially compared with the low-grade record of the available alternatives, I do believe that CADMUS demonstrated that satisfactory development is going to be a certainty with the incoming Berewa Administration.
Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: I'M NOT APC BUT GIVE ME A REASON TO VOTE SLPP
From: Critical Thinker
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Date Posted: 12:25:02 05/22/07 ()
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John Leigh,
Let us put this in the proper perspective. In terms of resources available for development the SLPP has had more resources than almost any other government in our history. Claiming the SLPP has done well under these circumstances will imply that the NPRC government was much better in running the country than the SLPP is. The NPRC achieved many of the things you listed while arguably facing many more constraints than the SLPP now faces. I am yet to be convinced that Sierra Leoneans are healthier now even though you believe they are healthier looking. Most of the health indicators for the country say otherwise.
You are right that not everyone in Freetown had access to clean drinking water before the war. However, those who had piped-borne water supply had access to a better quality of water supply then than they do now. This just sounds wrong. True, there has been an increase in the demand for water in Freetown over the years. But this just goes to underscore the crux of my argument: A good government would have planned for this. They would have known the current water supply capacity of Guma and would have had alternative strategies in place when that system failed.
In my view, moving the country forward would have to come from either of two forces. The first is through political change emerging from a significant and well structured political alternative. I am not sure this alternative is currently available. The second is through a systematic transformation within the existing political apparatus governing the country. The SLPP must be willing to change the way it does things and put national interest above that of the party. Early indications are not too encouraging. If the party’s conduct of its convention, the institutionalization of corruption, and the declining standards of living are anything to go by, then having a future government run by Berewa sounds really troubling. I hope he proves me wrong.
Subject: Re: I'M NOT APC BUT GIVE ME A REASON TO VOTE SLPP
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 14:38:32 05/22/07 ()
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Re: the inadequate supply of clean drinking water:
"A good government would have planned for this. They would have known the current water supply capacity of Guma and would have had alternative strategies in place when that system failed." - Critical Thinker
I say with all due respect that you are asking for too much, too soon.
The current water problem has nothing to do with whether the current SLPP Administration is good or bad.
The crux of the problem are the long years of neglect by APC's culture of non-maintenance and non-planning coupled with the extensive war problems.
The rate of the population inflation into Freetown is fantastic and it occurred in a very, very short period of time. Plus the government never had all the money and all the expertise required to solve all problems instantly. We have to recognize the fact that rebuilding war-damaged ontop of a neglected APC Sierra Leone is a tough and time-consuming business. Thank you. JL
Subject: Re: I'M NOT APC BUT GIVE ME A REASON TO VOTE SLPP
From: POLITICAL
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Date Posted: 14:51:46 05/22/07 ()
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JL, How soon is too soon? It's been 10 years of SLPP rule. I think this is enough for every capable government to make a different for the better not fixed on blaming it predecessors. Your arguement looks Ingenious. Let's put politics aside and concentrate on fact and sincerity. In 2004 the IC spent over a billion dollars on Sierra Leone. This would have made a difference if the government had not have officially endorse corruption. Instead the officials share the money,built houses and rent them to Sierra Leoneans in dollars. This is a shame for you to stand up and yell about the accomplishment of the SLPP.
Subject: Re: I'M NOT APC BUT GIVE ME A REASON TO VOTE SLPP
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 13:16:56 05/22/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Critical Thinker"
"In terms of resources available for development the SLPP has had more resources than almost any other government in our history."
Please provide us with the details. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: I'M NOT APC BUT GIVE ME A REASON TO VOTE SLPP
From: Abazam
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Date Posted: 14:17:34 05/22/07 ()
Email Address: bassieamara@yahoo.com
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John Leigh,
Do you have a job? If so, what is your job title? Who do you work for? By the way, what is your current position with the SLPP party/government? I am asking all these questions because, you are either totally idle (for a lawyer and former ambassador), or you are in Berewa's pocket.
I am sorry to say, but you act too childish, follow Berewa too blindly and it is just unbelievable. If you are retired, you could be an active consultant of some sort, or even volunteer to teach law at FBC, or teach some senior secondary school course in one of our schools. Your contribution will then be more meaningful for the development of Sierra Leone. I mean every article you write you make demeaning statements such as "mumbo, jumbo, munku etc..". What do you think that tells of you? An x-raray boy?, a sobel?, definitely not a former ambassador. I have American friends who read your postings and they torment me about whether or not you are really a grown up lawyer with a long career or if you are an impostor.
Please think about your despeakable outbursts and remember that if Berewa is smart and is a real leader as you portray him to be, then he will never give you an appointment because no one takes you serious. Why should anyone?
Subject: Re: I'M NOT APC BUT GIVE ME A REASON TO VOTE SLPP
From: Musa Nyandengor
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Date Posted: 16:48:14 05/22/07 ()
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I am sorry to say, but you act too childish, follow Berewa too blindly and it is just unbelievable.
What are you talking about the man nhas had surgery for swollen head syndrome and after that surgery he has lost his sense of dignity. he is now a BUFFON
Subject: Re: I'M NOT APC BUT GIVE ME A REASON TO VOTE SLPP
From: DEBTOR
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Date Posted: 13:23:12 05/22/07 ()
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Salone's total debt in 1995 before Kabbah came to power was 1.4 billion dollars. Salone's total debt in 2006 was 1,6 billion dollars gefore it was canceled by donors. Who took all these loans?
Subject: Re: I'M NOT APC BUT GIVE ME A REASON TO VOTE SLPP
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 09:20:27 05/22/07 ()
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Further on to that, there is no one currently held at Pademba Road for political reasons, and without Charges, or other legal recourse.
Are you for real or are you ignoring the fact that Omrie Golley as much as some of us revile his RUF role, sits languishing in jail in sierra leone as a "Political Prisoner"
BTW on the issue of Yenga I am of the opinin that it can only be solved by filing an action at ICJ. The diplomatic process has failed and it is about time that this government implements the legal approach to solving the issue of Yenga. I challenge you to write a complaint and send it to me via e mail which would be forwarded to the Government of sierra leone for purposes of filing with the ICJ and bringing this matter to full and complete settlement.
The SLPP has been the most unfair government sierra leone has ever known. I personally know of at least 12 people who were government employees and civil servants with many years of experience on their jobs who were terminated because they were not supporters of the SLPP.
Subject: Re: I'M NOT APC BUT GIVE ME A REASON TO VOTE SLPP
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 09:57:43 05/22/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Al:
True, Omerie Gulley may rightfully be viewed by many as a political prisoner but the fact is he is facing straightforward criminal charges.
Attemping to overthrow the Sierra Leone government is a huge crime now-a-days, beginning with the AFRC/RUF "WE-WANT-PEACE" tribalistic, hegemonistic coupligan regime. Because democrats will fight back; because savages will step in to retaliate by maiming, killing, raping and destroying property, etc. and because criminals will exploit the chaos to profit, rape and commit wanton murders, the cost of coups is no longer reasonable, nor are coups acceptable!
Mr. Golley ought to get an attentive lawyer to press forward his case. The adjournments have been fantastic and do not appear reasonable for an aspiring democratic society.
Next, diplomacy has not yet failed in Yenga. It is for the in-coming SLPP Administration to press forward with this matter skillfully and patiently.
Filing an action with ICJ is easy, PMDC-style yap-yap talk. But have you sat down and calculate how much such a decision will cost - (i) cash-wise in foreign exchange? (ii) diplomatic-wise? and (iii) Opportunity Cost-wise?
We Sierra Leoneans seem to be in love with only one form of exercise which we enjoy frequently: jumping to erroneous conclusions. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: I'M NOT APC BUT GIVE ME A REASON TO VOTE SLPP
From: JOKO LENGA
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Date Posted: 10:07:38 05/22/07 ()
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Incase the ICJ says Yenga belongs to Guinea? Remember what happened to Nigeria and cameroun? The disputed territory which belonged to Nigeria all along was granted to Cameroun. Again, have you guys calculated the time factor?The ICJ takes almost 5 to 10 years on cases before judgement is passed.
Subject: Re: I'M NOT APC BUT GIVE ME A REASON TO VOTE SLPP
From: LAWYER
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Date Posted: 10:04:33 05/22/07 ()
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John,
Margai is the problem in Golley's case. He has asked the supreme court to kick out the judge(Ademusu) because according to him, the judge is not a Sierra-Leonean. The prosecution presented their first withness, and wanted to continue the trial, but Golley's lawyer Margai has filed another motion in the spreme court even though the first one was thrown out.
Subject: Re: I'M NOT APC BUT GIVE ME A REASON TO VOTE SLPP
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 17:18:09 05/22/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Thank you very much. - JL
Subject: No to Corruption and no the high levels of unemployment
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 21:43:23 05/21/07 ()
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especially among graduates.
The next guest speaker at a USL convocation should, while congratulating the students, also assure them that they will be given the opportunity to serve their country.
Regitstration to watch the rather long and very interesting preview of Ghana TV, is free.
We ( Sierra Leone and Ghana) have problems in common
Subject: WHERE ARE THE OTHER BRAINS THAT MAKE COCORIOKO INTERESTING?
From: PERIODIC PEEPER
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Date Posted: 21:42:23 05/21/07 ()
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This forum seems to be looking dull. The only thing I see now are repeated cuss cuss and tribal attacks on Mendes. Where is the intellectual spirit that used to make this forum great? Where are the other brains that made you want to read even when you disagreed? Where are they?
Subject: Re: WHERE ARE THE OTHER BRAINS THAT MAKE COCORIOKO INTERESTING?
From: STRAIGHT TALK
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Date Posted: 00:23:17 05/22/07 ()
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It's easy to tell when a Mende attempts to suppress the truth. This forum is not dull and there is no need to be euphemistic in our descr1ption of the facts. The Mendes are power hungry and it shows. Which other way would you like for us to say it?
Subject: Re: WHERE ARE THE OTHER BRAINS THAT MAKE COCORIOKO INTERESTING?
From: Sengbe Watcher
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Date Posted: 08:42:45 05/22/07 ()
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"It's easy to tell when a Mende attempts to suppress the truth."
It is even easier to know the identity of the person whose inferiority complex easily gives him away aas a coward hiding behind a false name to disparage his intellectual superiors.
Subject: Re: WHERE ARE THE OTHER BRAINS THAT MAKE COCORIOKO INTERESTING?
From: Forum Veteran
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Date Posted: 23:18:47 05/21/07 ()
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People are just too busy with their own affairs. It has nothing to do with the forum. If you have been a forum veteran like me, you would have known that there is an ebb and flow in the participation of forumites.
Please leave our forum alone.It is doing fine.
Subject: Re: WHERE ARE THE OTHER BRAINS THAT MAKE COCORIOKO INTERESTING?
From: Yapo Conteh
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Date Posted: 00:51:21 05/22/07 ()
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If the SLPP was being praised here, this forum could have been the most interesting. Some people just won't grow up.
Subject: Re: WHERE ARE THE OTHER BRAINS THAT MAKE COCORIOKO INTERESTING?
From: NAR U SABI
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Date Posted: 04:58:33 05/22/07 ()
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NAR U SABI
Subject: Re: WHERE ARE THE OTHER BRAINS THAT MAKE COCORIOKO INTERESTING?
From: YOU GO SABI
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Date Posted: 08:43:35 05/22/07 ()
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YOU GO SABI
Subject: African Princess
From: QUEEN
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Date Posted: 20:20:11 05/21/07 ()
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African Princess
MORGANTOWN, W.Va. (AP) -- A woman who recently discovered she is descended from a royal family in Africa is continuing her goal of restoring a war-ravaged village there.
30 year old Sarah Culberson was adopted by a Morgantown couple as an infant. Her search for her biological parents led her to Africa, the home of her father, Joseph Konia Kposowa. Kposowa was in line to be paramount chief in the Sierra Leone village of Bumpe, but gave up the title.
After finding her biological father, Culberson decided to raise 20-thousand dollars to help restore the Bumpe school, which had been destroyed by rebels.
The actress organized fund-raisers and went on talk shows to get word out about her cause.
Since meeting her initial goal, she's raised another 70-thousand to do more work in Bumpe, including rebuilding the school's home economics building.
Culberson says her efforts so far have been very rewarding, but there's a lot more to do.
The Kposowa Foundation's goal is 200-thousand dollars to completely rebuild the school. Donations can be made online at www.bumpefund.com
© 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
Subject: The Color of Guilt & Innocence
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 16:37:30 05/21/07 ()
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Greetings my brothers and sisters. It is my honor (honour) and pleasure to recommend a book titled "The Color of Guilt & Innocence, Racial Profiling and Police Practices In America" By Steve Holbert & Lisa Rose; where you would also read excerpts from Kevin R. Johnson (Associate Dean for Academic Affairs and Professor of Law and Chicano/o Studies
University of California at Davis.
It is a very interesting book that will help fill-in the gap.
Knowledge is a terrible thing to waste. Thanks for reading.
Subject: Re: The Color of Guilt & Innocence
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 21:09:53 05/21/07 ()
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“Big-time negotiators, false healers and woman haters,
Masters of the bluff and masters of the proposition
But the enemy I see wears a cloak of decency,”
(“Slow Train”
http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/serve.html
Sometimes the beast he comes in the shape of a few thugs in uniform with the main intent of inflicting the maximum bodily destruction on black whenever the opportunity arises breaking bones, breaking heads (like Steve Biko's) after which they return to their wives and a bottle of beer, scott free.
Subject: Nigerian leaders row over occult
From: JUJU MAN
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Date Posted: 15:14:19 05/21/07 ()
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BBC NEWS
Nigerian leaders row over occult
Mr Abubakar said the president's mind was "full of the cobwebs of juju"
Nigerian president Olusegun Obasanjo has accused his estranged deputy of wishing him dead and consulting Islamic holy men on the date of his demise.
Mr Obasanjo said the vice president had told a former minister: "Don't worry, the president will be dead soon."
VP Atiku Abubakar denied the charges, saying Mr Obasanjo's mind was full of "the cobwebs of juju or occult".
The pair fell out when Mr Abubakar opposed the president's efforts to stay in office for a third term.
I am not afraid of such stupidity.
Olusegun Obasanjo
Mr Abubakar ran in last month's presidential elections as an opposition candidate, despite spirited efforts by Mr Obasanjo to stop him.
According to official results Mr Abubakar lost to the governing party's Umar Yar'Adua, who succeeds Mr Obasanjo as president next week.
'I will be president'
Speaking about the feud between him and his deputy on national television, Mr Obasanjo said Mr Abubakar had told a minister that he had been consulting a marabout (holy man).
President Obasanjo is standing down after two terms
The president said Mr Abubakar told the minister: "So the same marabout has told me that I will be President when this man (Obasanjo) dies and had given me a month that he will die, you better prepare."
Mr Obasanjo said the alleged comments showed his rival's "bankruptcy of ideas, bankruptcy of knowledge and lack of knowledge in God and the affairs of God on the lives of human beings".
He added: "If I will live for another 20 years, it is in the hands of God. I am not afraid of such stupidity. Of course, I know that you can be poisoned but if God wants to save you, you will be saved."
Mr Abubakar fell out with Mr Obasanjo after he publicly opposed attempts to change the constitution to give the president a third term.
'Somkescreen'
The vice-president who stands down next week with Mr Obasanjo dismissed the president's accusations as "bizarre and ludicrous".
"Unlike Obasanjo who uses Christianity as a smokescreen while engaged in occultism and diabolical acts, I am a devout Muslim who has always striven to live in accordance with the teachings of Islam," Mr Atiku fired back in a statement.
"The next occupant of the State House (presidential villa) will need to spiritually cleanse the presidential lodge to make it habitable for normal people.
"I don't believe in resorting to marabout and have never wished the president dead. Rather, it is the president who has been hell-bent on eliminating me politically and physically.
"By making public accusations of fetish acts against me, the president has exposed his own mindset as one that is covered in the cobwebs of juju or occult.
"It is on record that the president had never in the past denied his association with deadly secret societies."
Subject: Re: Nigerian leaders row over occult
From: Critical Thinker
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Date Posted: 16:20:56 05/21/07 ()
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"It is on record that the president had never in the past denied his association with deadly secret societies."
Does this also mean that it is on record that he has never confirmed his association....?
Just thinking......
Subject: Re: Nigerian leaders row over occult
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 20:31:04 05/21/07 ()
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Some Northern Nigerian Muslims do not understand Olodumare and tend to think of the Yoruba as polytheistic and therfeore equate that with Shirk and from there it's easy to associate traditional healing arts with idolatry , superstition, kufr, barbarism , this time not from a CMS Christian point of view that was atught by those who had a civilsing mission, not colonial missionaries from Europe, but Muslim missionaries whose main understanding divides time into the period of darkness and jahilya and the present Islamic dispensation of after the Hijra.
Listening to some of the indigenous can take your mind off our Nigeria, temporarily otherwise we’ll all go crazy
Subject: SLPP Freetown East 3 Aspirant Says " Try a Woman See The Dif
From: JOKO LENGA
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Date Posted: 14:53:08 05/21/07 ()
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STANDARD TIMES
SLPP Freetown East 3 Aspirant Says " Try a Woman See The Difference"
Posted by on May 21, 2007, 13:11
SLPP Parliamentary Aspirant for Constituency 97, formerly Freetown East III, Mrs. Gloria Khadija Fofanah told the SLPP Regional and District Executive that: “if given the opportunity to represent both my Constituency and the party in Parliament, I will show case my advocacy, collaboration, leadership and team-member skills. I will channel my energies not only to bring development in way of employment and good life to constituency 97, but also to the whole country.”
Mrs. Fofanah was speaking at the Municipal School Hall where all the aspirants from Western Urban East presented their manifesto to the party executive, members, observers and other stakeholders.
Gloria Fofanah who is a teacher and holds a master degree in Sustainable Development Studies and Human Resource Management from Njala University said in her opening statement that: “I feel empowered to stand here this afternoon as a woman, to speak to the reasons why I believe that I, Gloria Khadija Fofanah is the best candidate for the party symbol for winning this constituency for Parliament and giving its vote to the Honourable Leader of the party, Solomon E. Berewa to become the next President of Sierra Leone. It is only the SLPP that can let this happen for a woman without any strings attached.”
She stressed that the key issues for her campaign will be employment, wealth creation housing, health, education and recreation for children, public utility, public safety and security, welfare for disabled and vulnerable group, patriotism, roads and public works.
Gloria is well known in her community and has been very supportive to many community initiatives. She was rated the best aspirant in the way and manner she delivered her manifesto and the applause she received from her con
Subject: SLPP " Try a Woman See The Dif. Isn't this too much pain?
From: GBANGBANI
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Date Posted: 18:43:17 05/21/07 ()
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Check the Guy on the back left with the green hat and the guy on the back right with the black or purple hat carrying the lady,it appears as if they are in dier distress (pain) as a result of them carrying that woman.
This Load Nor to Wahallah? Me fambul them wuna help me oooh.....!!!!
Subject: Re: SLPP " Try a Woman See The Dif. Isn't this too much pain?
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 20:27:09 05/21/07 ()
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The answer is Food Security. Just count the heavies around the properous looking lady. Compare SLeone's new heavies with the suck-breeze skinies that inhabited our country before the return of the SLPP.
SLPP may not yet be perfect but it is far superior to all others. No one should ever risk a return to the skiny suck breeze era. - JL
Subject: SLPP welcomes PMDC defectors
From: PIKIN MARGAI DON DRASE
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Date Posted: 14:47:10 05/21/07 ()
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AWOKO NEWS
SLPP welcomes PMDC defectors
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Over a hundred former youth supporters of the Peoples Movement for Democratic Change (PMDC) have declared their support for the Sierra Leone Peoples Party last week. The youths who made the declaration at well-attended meetings held at Shell Mingo, Kpetema and Kamara.
In his statement in all these meetings, the Section Chief of Gbo-Kakajama, Chief Brima Kargbo who is also the chairman of Board of Director (BKPS) spoke about the good work of the ruling party, saying that one of the main aims of the government is to reduce the high rate of illiteracy in the country.
Chief Kargbo said that the high rate of illiteracy was one of the root causes of the rebel war that destroyed the entire country.
But he cautioned all to be wise when voting in people to represent them in parliament.Earlier in his speech the chairman of the meeting Stevens Alieu, briefly narrated the bitter experiences he encountered during the APC regime in this country.
In his contribution the Chairman of Kpetema, Pujehun, Kamara town and Shell Mingo SLPP Young Generation Stevens Madiyei thanked all those who attended the meetings and called on their support for the ruling party.
The quarter Chiefs Pa Mustapha Lolleh, Chief Vandi Lukulay and Amadu Juana made meaningful contributions.
Chief Vandi Fajanga of Kpetema gave the vote of thanks.
Subject: THE FORUM'S POPULATION
From: Peeper 6
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Date Posted: 11:51:21 05/21/07 ()
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John Leigh once correctly pointed out that this forum is populated by poorly educated folks who attempt to argue above their skills level. The more you access this forum nowadays the more you are opt to agree with Mr. Leigh. True, most of the brilliant minds have left. What sense does it make to argue with high schools dropouts? Take for instance one such casualty once referring to heavy-weight economist Dr Kelfala Kallon as a rebel. Ay Salone!
Subject: Re: THE FORUM'S POPULATION
From: Pathetic
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Date Posted: 12:01:00 05/21/07 ()
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Edmund Koker, your inferiority complex knows no bounds.
Only your capacity for self-delusion comes close.
Subject: Re: THE FORUM'S POPULATION
From: Yapo Conteh
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Date Posted: 14:09:13 05/21/07 ()
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I wish he and his John Leigh knew the academic accomplishments of some of us. But then, it is only the ignorant that see no discoverer when all they see is sea. And where ignorance is bliss, it is a holly to be wise.
Subject: Re: THE FORUM'S POPULATION
From: Observer
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Date Posted: 14:21:15 05/21/07 ()
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As the saying goes, a man is known by the company he keeps.
By that standard, Koker's admiration for Leigh needs no adumbration. And that too goes for Koker's fellow blind SLPP supporter, Cadmus.
Subject: Re: THE FORUM'S POPULATION
From: Yapo Conteh
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Date Posted: 14:10:18 05/21/07 ()
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It is a folly to be wise
Subject: Re: THE FORUM'S POPULATION
From: boli
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Date Posted: 12:12:53 05/23/07 ()
Email Address: boli@yahoo.com
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It is not 'It is a folly to be wise' but 'It is folly to be wise'
YOu are butressing JL's point
Subject: Re: THE FORUM'S POPULATION
From: Context
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Date Posted: 13:11:38 05/23/07 ()
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Sengbe, you are doomed never to understand what you read!
Look up the meaning of the word, "context" and you would understand your folly in taking literally the expression that Yapo used in a sarcastic context.
You and Leigh are classic examples of what Yapo said: "where ignorance is bliss, it is a folly to be wise."
Subject: Re: THE FORUM'S POPULATION
From: boli
To: All
Date Posted: 15:49:40 05/23/07 ()
Email Address: boli@yahoo.com
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Why use Senge' name? I am Boli, Sengbe has nothing to do with what I said. Anyway i will let this one pass as you are displaying the classics of someone with pure inferiority complex
And please, bite your lip and keep quiet
Subject: Re: THE FORUM'S POPULATION
From: Pot Calling the Kettle Black
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Date Posted: 06:27:46 05/24/07 ()
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"Sengbe has nothing to do with what I said. Anyway i will let this one pass as you are displaying the classics of someone with pure inferiority complex."
Sengbe, you accusing someone of having an inferiority complex is like the pot calling the kettle black!
Subject: I AM A MAN PROPER.
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
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Date Posted: 08:42:58 05/21/07 ()
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It is very funny to me, to see that Alieu Iscandari and a few of his friends in this forum will believe that I ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA,will decide to post anything about Alieu Iscandari without putting my full names to it.I thank God that I have a history on this forum which is ,I had never posted anything without my name on it and I will continue like that till I die.For those who dont know me,please,be informed that whatever comes from me, is true and correct, therefore it will always give me the greatest joy to put my name to it.
Alieu and I have been engaged in a bitter war of words in the past,but a few well respectable people within Alieu's family had called me and appealed to me to totally ignore Alieu, because I will cause a lot of embarrassment and disgrace to his family.Because of the tremendous respect I have for these people, I have decided to ignore Alieu and discontinue our war of words.
I only hope that Alieu will understand the true meaning of these my words.
I am not afraid of Alieu and I do not respect him,but I repeat again because of the great respect I have for the people who appealed to me,I will never again reply to any of his postings that have an abusive language.If Alieu wishes to continue,since that is the only way he enjoys, let him feel free to do so.
I pray that at age 50,the Almighty God will redirect Alieu's mind to things that will keep his pride and his dignity intact.
Finally,once again, I put it to everybody in this forum that I will always put my names in full(ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA)to anything I post because it falls within the principles of Islam and also because I am a man proper and not a chicken, not a coward and not a toothless bulldog.
Subject: Re: I AM A MAN PROPER.
From: WAA
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Date Posted: 11:32:34 05/22/07 ()
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are you denying that you wronte the crap on satan and his agents being in California this weekened? Because if you are then you are relly a man that should not be trusted. Real men do not hide behind false names to insult people who played a part in your life? Or do they?
Saidu most people know that you PISSED or WET THE BED until you were an adult and that you occasionaly do that. At least thas been the WAA from people that know Ajuah. fter you left she had to throw the mattress and bedding out because it reeked of URINE. You filthy motha phocker.
Subject: SOUTHERNERS STARTED FIGHTING AGAIN-Albert Moinina
From: MUSA KAMARA
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Date Posted: 05:55:17 05/21/07 ()
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The southerners have started fighting again and they are using the same method as the ndorgborwusu,rebel(ruf)kamajors incursion.Mr Albert,you are so limited in your thinking and reasoning to try to cast the blame on the Northerners again.Your tribalistic,hatred and power thirst apt wont take us nowhere especially our beloved land Sierra-Leone.
Subject: Re: SOUTHERNERS STARTED FIGHTING AGAIN-Albert Moinina
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 10:29:23 05/21/07 ()
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Bo, which kinna bah trouble dis? Me tribalistic? Are blame northerners? Mr. Musa Kamara u dae talk to the wrong person. Ah dae go insie me hole again. Bye.
Subject: Re: SOUTHERNERS STARTED FIGHTING AGAIN-Albert Moinina
From: CADMUS
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Date Posted: 11:38:47 05/21/07 ()
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Albert, Hi, Wellcome back.
Are still around?, That is a shame, just when I thought the PMDC was 'dead'ready to be buried, there you appear again.
Did anyone notice that on his recent postings, Albert did not say one good thing about PMDC, nor did he defend the party.PMDC was not even mentioned. Has he ran out of steam? Has he seen the light after all like the majority of Sierra Leoneans? It is never too late Albert, you can always come back to SLPP, the doors are wide open.Nothing to be ashamed of, many people are doing it.You may even sleep good at night with peace of mind.
The points you made about the fighting in Pujehun are cogent and I fully support...you made sense for once. Ignore the tribalists, this forum is full of people who are so limited that their only weapon of attack is tribalism.....we have all been victims to that.As soon as you say you support SLPP, then they will call you a Mende Tribalist... so don't let that put you off and send you back to your 'HOLE'(as you put it)....take a lesson from that great SLPP fighter John Leigh, fight back if you honestly believe your course.Fighting for the PMDC is still a course, it may be a lost course, but it is still a course.
Subject: Re: SOUTHERNERS STARTED FIGHTING AGAIN-Albert Moinina
From: THE NORTH
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Date Posted: 14:03:57 05/21/07 ()
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Cadmus, don't be fooled brother, tribalism is well and alive in Sierra Leone and no one knows it better than the Mendes. The problem here is that the Mendes are killing each other in the south and you expect us to blame the PMDC. Hehehehe! Fact is the PMDC is Mende stupid!
The Mendes are behaving like primitives compared to the matured and civilised North. Even John Leigh knows this is true that is why he refuse to respond. What a 180 degree turn from a man who does not pick his battles on this forum. Can you imagine if this was happening in the North
Subject: Re: SOUTHERNERS STARTED FIGHTING AGAIN-Albert Moinina
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 15:59:46 05/21/07 ()
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"The Mendes are behaving like primitives compared to the matured and civilised North. Even John Leigh knows this is true that is why he refuse to respond. What a 180 degree turn from a man who does not pick his battles on this forum. Can you imagine if this was happening in the North." - THE NORTH
Mr. THE NORTH:
I don't know what you are chestizing me for.
Whatever it is, I have never viewed SLeone in terms of North & South. I see a nation that has suffered from her own and now needs, as never before, its people to get serious about developing their homeland regardless of tribe, religion, gender, race, language, etc.
Hence I view situations as helpful or unhelpful, good or bad, smart or dunce, succeess or flunkey, etc.
So, what's your complaint?
Every serious matter of concern to me in this forum, I have made my true views known. Besides, I like to deal with difficult situations. You will never catch me run away from difficult situations although I am increasingly ignoring postings lacking in any redeeming values.
Otherwise, I stay and fight. PERIOD! - JL
Subject: Re: SOUTHERNERS STARTED FIGHTING AGAIN-Albert Moinina
From: Question
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Date Posted: 13:56:53 05/22/07 ()
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"I am increasingly ignoring postings lacking in any redeeming values."
You mean you are ignoring your own postings? That woul;d be a new low for even a lunatic like you.
Subject: Re: SOUTHERNERS STARTED FIGHTING AGAIN-Albert Moinina
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 11:33:15 05/21/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Mr. Moinina:
There are a lot of foolumunkus in this forum who do not always understand what they read. Yet, they are quick to jump to erroneous conclusions. They ought to find a better way to exercise. Jumping to conclusions won't cut it. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: SOUTHERNERS STARTED FIGHTING AGAIN-Albert Moinina
From: Mirror
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Date Posted: 12:05:04 05/21/07 ()
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"There are a lot of foolumunkus in this forum who do not always understand what they read."
Of whom none is more typical than you, John Leigh -- rude, corrupt, criminal, and totally lacking in intelligence.
So, rather discussing issues, you seek to deflect attention from your mental and character deficiencies by preemptively insulting your betters.
Subject: Re: SOUTHERNERS STARTED FIGHTING AGAIN-Albert Moinina
From: BLAME
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Date Posted: 10:53:51 05/21/07 ()
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Albert Moinina does not INTENTIONALLY blame Northerners, he just don't know what the heck he talks about. If you don't believe me, read the following and tell me if Albert Moinina is really, honestly, really, really blaming Northerners:
"Don't forget that there are thousands of Northerners living in the South. Suppose this havoc is caused by them. I am not suggesting in any way they are responsible. Just want you to see the broader picture and not play the tribal card on such important issues."
Subject: INDEPENDENT MAN,YOUR ARE A COWARD,AND PRIMITIVE
From: MUSA KAMARA
To: All
Date Posted: 05:41:47 05/21/07 ()
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You are a coward,bush and primitive failure.My observation is that,you keep on using abusive language because competent individuals on this forum want to put some form of knowledge and know-how in that your empty head.I wont bother or waste my time to debate with you,unless you use your real identity.Those your power thirst-southerner fellows have started fighting again.They started with the same formula as the ndorgborwusu,rebel(ruf)kamajor chaos and distruction.
Subject: Re: INDEPENDENT MAN,YOUR ARE A COWARD,AND PRIMITIVE
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 02:22:50 05/24/07 ()
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There you go again talking out of you know where.
I come to this forum to have fun and nothing else---- get it? If you don't like it, go butt cotton tree.
What makes you think I come from the Southern part of Sa. Lone?
You tribalistic, hate-mongering, low-class, stupid Mofor!
Subject: SIA TIYAAMA BLAMES APC & PMDC FOR CURRENT ELECTION VIOLENCE
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 23:23:02 05/20/07 ()
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Return to Violence With an Apprentice
Concord Times (Freetown)
OPINION
8 May 2007
Posted to the web 8 May 2007
By Sia Tiyaama
Freetown
Elections are less than one hundred and twenty days away and the eerie promise by a political party leader of a return to violence and terror in the very likely event of his party's loss in the elections is manifesting itself.
Some of us were hoping that our traumatic ten-year experience of the gruesome realities of war would steer away from the rhetoric of violence simply because a political party leader wants to be president by every means. Sadly, some political parties seem to be relishing the idea of a return to violence in general and specifically election violence.
It is my sincere hope that the government of the day handles these people with iron hands and sets a clear example that the government cannot tolerate incitement to and perpetration of violence in Sierra Leone.
Recent developments in Freetown during the SLPP rally and the spate of arson and terror in Pujehun are sounding alarm bells in the whole country.
My preliminary investigations suggest a very dastardly machination by opposition parties who have seen signs of their imminent loss of the elections on the wall.
It is noteworthy that both APC and PMDC have suggested in so many words that they would resort to violence if and when they lose elections. It seems they are not willing to wait for the elections results.
They seem to be testing out their macabre plans. APC seems to be clearly returning to its violent roots, only this time they have PMDC cadre as apprentices.
APC intolerance The history of APC party politics between 1967 and 1992 is replete with violence, murder, arson, and the strategic elimination of the opposition and opposition members. For twenty-four years, APC brutally suppressed all forms of opposition with perfect impunity.
There was the Sanda massacre; the Ginger Hall arson which was led by Alfred Akibo-Betts; the Dworzak Farm arson, the Cassell Farm attack, the attack on Bo Town by imported thugs from Maforki, the elimination of Mohammed Sorie Fornah and others, the murder of Sam Bangura (the Central Bank governor) who dared advise the APC against IMF loans; the violent attack on the Tablet newspaper; the elimination of Francis Minah the list goes on.
The common goal of all these events was to eliminate all forms of opposition or criticism. It is therefore not surprising that the APC party exhibited violent political intolerance during the recent rally of the ruling SLPP in Freetown. This show of intolerance is instructive. It should be a wake-up call to all and sundry that given the opportunity, the APC will stifle freedom of association as they did in 1978; freedom of speech, as they did when they closed down newspapers and banned all forms of singing during a lantern parade, and worst of all return to election violence.
The APC party had their own rally in Freetown. The APC procession was not hindered in any way, shape or form.
But the APC resorted to violence during the ruling party's rally because they (APC) cannot stand the sight of the massive crowd pulled by the SLPP. E. T.
Kamara would still want us to blame the SLPP because APC went back to its violent roots.
APC has become synonymous with violence in Sierra Leone. It is part of their political strategy. Ernest Koroma is a paper tiger propped up to cover up the wicked cabal that truly controls the APC. Peace loving Sierra Leoneans should reject the APC's violent politics. We must all remember that the brutality of the civil war was partly due to the culture of violence the APC so willingly introduced among the youth of Sierra Leone. We must all reject that culture of violence with one voice.
The scariest part of all this is that the PMDC seems to be learning very fast from their APC allies. The APC has used violence before to win elections, and now, it seems the PMDC is borrowing a leaf from the APC book by intimidating people in Pujehun district.
Violence in Pujehun The recent episode of violence in Pujehun brings to mind a very dark promise Charles Margai and some of his followers have made numerous times. Information from Pujehun suggests that some people are targeting the homes of paramount chiefs in arson attacks. It is open secret that the chiefs targeted are strong SLPP supporters.
Furthermore, information from Pujehun suggests that the culprits perpetrating the violence are supporters of PMDC who feel they have no chance of removing the SLPP from power. Although the veracity of the information cannot be confirmed, the utterances of the PMDC leader and some of his followers should warrant a close investigation of the role of the PMDC in the Pujehun violence. On many occasions, Charles Margai has stated that if he does not win the elections there would be violence (from his supporters) to a scale that he could not control.
During his acceptance speech following his coronation as PMDC leader, Charles Margai again warned the international community to protect him, or he would have to use disgruntled Kamajors for his protection.
Added to that, the most recent convert to PMDC Rev Alfred Sam Foray has put out many press releases which were tantamount to inciting rebellion and violence.
Furthermore, PMDC stalwarts have, on many occasions, threatened to revisit the "Ndorgborwusui" violence.
It is therefore more than coincidence for a group of people allegedly led by a disgruntled former Kamajor militia member to use the same "Ndorgborwusui" tactics in Pujehun. It is also more than a coincidence that one of the PMDC stalwarts who made such comments has spent the past few months in Pujehun prior to these attacks.
As I write, this article, this very stalwart is still in Pujehun. Let us try connecting the dots: Charles Margai threatens violence; Rev. Alfred Sam-Foray who had previously tried to incite violence and threatened to arrest the president and his cabinet ministers using Kamajors joins PMDC; PMDC stalwarts invoke in so many words the Ndorgborwusui type of violence; now we have Ndorgborwusui type attacks on Chiefs supporting the SLPP in Pujehun. The least the security forces and authorities can do for the people of Pujehun is to fully investigate those atrocious arson attacks in Pujehun and to ascertain the possible involvement of the PMDC.
I have always maintained that Charles Margai is afflicted with the foot-in-the-mouth disease. For all I know, he may not be involved in the violence being perpetrated in Pujehun. However, since he created the PMDC, he has spent more time talking about violence than about viable policies. His fixation with violence gives me the jitters. Thus, I am particularly calling on the government to launch a full-scale investigation into the activities of the PMDC in this latest spate of violence in Pujehun District.
This is above politics; it is the security of a war-scarred people in Pujehun. While APC throws stones, it seems their apprentice in violence, PMDC are starting where APC left off with arson attacks.
That the PMDC and APC are resorting to primitive violence underlies the unflattering reality that those parties are devoid of ideas, policies, or vision. They therefore depend on violence and intimidation. I pray that this time around our government stays on top of things and nips the cusp of violence in the bud.
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Subject: Re: SIA TIYAAMA BLAMES APC & PMDC FOR CURRENT ELECTION VIOLENCE
From: FENTHI
To: All
Date Posted: 07:06:36 05/21/07 ()
Email Address: fenthi@hotmail.com
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Sia,
I wonder whether you are interested in being taken seriously in this Forum. Some times one already knows what you are going to write before reading your contributions here. Try to get out of you dangerously biased Anti-APC and Anti-PMDC corner and learn to think rationally.
Before the oncoming elections, you will see more and new evidence unfolding about who actually started the eleven -year old rebel war, nurtured it at the very beginning from Bomaru on to Mobai, where Chief Bunduka was killed. Your SLPP Maigore Kallon (I hope is still living)and others will one day give their true testimonies about those darkest days in our country`s recent History. I bet you, most of you will bury your heads in the sand- provided you can boast of any drop of human shame. Tell your people in the Pujehun area that the APC and the PMDC have both the right to campaign and win elections in those areas in the same way the civilized northerners allow the SLPP to campaign and win elections in the north. Our people have suffered a lot. We cannot afford another war.
Subject: Re: SIA TIYAAMA BLAMES APC & PMDC FOR CURRENT ELECTION VIOLENCE
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 07:28:30 05/21/07 ()
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do you take sia Tiyaama seriously? NEVER
Subject: Rosenior out after '10 minutes'
From: FOOTBALLER
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Date Posted: 20:14:13 05/20/07 ()
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Rosenior out after '10 minutes'
Rosenior managed Torquay for four years in his first spell in charge
Leroy Rosenior has broken the record for English football's shortest managerial reign.
BBC Five Live understands Rosenior lost his job at Torquay just 10 minutes after being introduced as the Devon club's new manager on Thursday.
Chairman Mike Bateson called him to say he had just sold the club to a group led by Colin Lee, who then reinstated himself as director of football.
Lee had only been made redundant last Monday.
Rosenior, 43, was given the head coach position at Plainmoor when Keith Curle's short-term contract expired.
Bateson told Rosenior that he did not know Lee's bid for the club was imminent when he appointed him.
It would have been the former Brentford boss's second stint in charge at Torquay.
The previous shortest tenure in charge in English football was Dave Bassett's four-day reign at Crystal Palace in 1984.
Subject: QUOTE OF THE DAY
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Date Posted: 18:12:16 05/20/07 ()
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"No development plan, however brilliant, can make SL a better place if the president of SL is a crook or a proven incompetent."
Subject: Re: QUOTE OF THE DAY
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 14:03:55 05/21/07 ()
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“You got men who can't hold their peace and women who can't control their tongues,
The rich seduce the poor and the old are seduced by the young.
When you gonna wake up, when you gonna wake up
When you gonna wake up and strengthen the things that remain?
Adulterers in churches and pornography in the schools,
You got gangsters in power and lawbreakers making rules”
http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/wakeup.html
Sure we do not wish for a crook or a toothless gorilla or impotent chimpanzee as the president, as the man who has the WILL to wage a ruthless war on corruption and spare no one.
This is part of growing evidence about honesty, self esteem, and the separation of powers.
The Inspector General of Police admits there’s corruption (how much?) in the police. Will the corrupt ones be neutral, even –handed and fair, when they maintain an atmosphere of law and order during the elections?
Subject: Re: QUOTE OF THE DAY
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 13:37:56 05/21/07 ()
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Did Bishop Dom Camara, "the Red Bishop" say " Blessed are the poor" ?
Here's how it is while we're still on earth with
Subject: Re: QUOTE OF THE DAY
From: True
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Date Posted: 18:18:01 05/20/07 ()
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That is so very true.
Subject: BUSINESS FOLKS ARE DOING GREAT IN SA LONE
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 17:19:14 05/20/07 ()
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To those SLPP haters and big-talk clowns on this forum who claim that nothing good is happening in Sa lone under the SLPP, WATCH THIS CLIP.
Instead of investing in something useful at home and taking advantage of the opportunities there, you are busy accusing Kabbah and Berewa of this and that. Comparing the status of the country just 5 years ago to the status right now, I can confidently say that things are moving in the right direction. Thanks to SLPP!!!!!!! Things will only get better under Berewa!!!!!!
Down with the SLPP Haters and Do-Nothing Big Talk Clowns
Subject: Re: BUSINESS FOLKS ARE DOING GREAT IN SA LONE ( corrxeted
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 10:09:07 05/21/07 ()
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Corrected (mostly) to make clear: I wrote what I’ve now corrected, so that I don’t lead anybody astray with unintended spellings:
I’m not going to read this over and admit to all the mis-takes made herein. I proofread peoples’ PhDs.
May those who want to act as my personal saviour and editor or philosophical mentor, (as we say in Sierra Leone) “rest assured” that I feel free and as Ali Ibn Talib ( a.s.) said ( in the Khutbah/Sermon known as ash-Shiqshiqiyyah the bird cannot fly up to me - when I wanna fly.
He said:
”.....he certainly knew that my position in relation to it was the same as the position of the axis in relation to the hand-mill. The flood water flows down from me and the bird cannot fly upto me. I put a curtain against the caliphate and kept myself detached from it.
Then I began to think whether I should assault or endure calmly the blinding darkness of tribulations wherein the grown up are made feeble and the young grow old and the true believer acts under strain till he meets Allah (on his death). I found that endurance thereon was wiser.
So I adopted patience although there was pricking in the eye and suffocation (of mortification) in the throat. I watched the plundering of my inheritance.” (Nahjul Balagha)
Anyone (who thinks that Imam Ali (a.s.) was talking to or about San-San boys, flumunkus, flunkies and the other vermin, the mosquitoes, their non-edible vultures and the rest of the scum in that Bo Town – like the garbage in Freetown corrupting our virgin atmosphere, think again. Such a one does not have to read this as we will never truck with the same kind of san-san poetry unless she/he is qualified or sponsored by good taste, to enjoy or judge it or whatever is not composed in the stilted versions of journalese/officialese’s shop-soiled prose.
For a legal opinion, I know where to turn. For an economic one, I’d ask Jeffrey Sachs, thank you - or one of the very successful businessmen – and not promise him that should I be in power I’d help him fleece the country if only he’ll give me my own profitable advantage – as a percentage.
The whole of what I write is MY relevancy and throughout school and at both O and A levels I was used to writing A plus essays. This is just some very humble chat. MY response to the posting. You don’t like it? Then write your own response. I don’t have to like it. I could probably do without it. I wouldn’t expect it to be the same as mine. We-re not the same person and you are certainly not my school teacher. You are no professor Bankole Thompson who I’d listen to today as I listened to him yesterday and I wonder whether he and classmate Blyden Jenkins-Johnston got the recordings of Penguin audio books of Selected Poems of William Blake and Alfred Lord Tennyson that I sent them?
I’d like to send some to my other classmates, clerk of the House Joseph Carpenter, Edna Becker of Harford School Moyamba) and Aminata Mahdi. Edmund Lahai is sadly departed. He was the most quiet one. (I did not pay my precious £50 (in those days a nice sum of petty cash) for the piece of Durham fur, and as planned I did not attend the pompous convocation officiated by my godfather Canon Harry sawyer and you must admit that these convocations can be dull& pompous affairs – unless perhaps you are in the limelight of the fanfare, with dear parents relatives, boy or girl friends seated in the congregation , fanning themselves as the president sends everyone to sleep with his visions and dreams and expectations of the young graduates to shine their light into the darkest holes and recesses throughout the country ). All this means is that the very last time that I saw dear Edmund, must have been in the examination hall, because only recently back from Monrovia Liberia, I took off from the garden city of Freetown straight - to Makeni moments after the ink was dry on the last paper…)
“IF THE MOUNTAIN WILL NOT COME TO MOHAMMED, MOHAMMED WILL GO TO THE MOUNTAIN!”
Thanks for posting this video which brings Sierra Leone a little closer. It’s an eye-opener and better than imagining what’s happening. The Sierra Leone ministry of information should produce more of these kinds of videos to keep us abreast with news of progress.
Soupsweet Palm tree land with palm tress everywhere. In 1968 Malaysia got their first palm tree seedlings from Nigeria and the Palm industry is now part of a multi billion dollar business in Malaysia. This palm provides most of the soap and many other products on the international market. Nigeria unfortunately abandoned palm production after they discovered oil and today, Malaysia is one of the biggest exporters of palm oil to even our parts of the world. (There’s some talk about palm oil being environmentally harmful.)
The video starts by informing us that Sierra Leone has 5.4 million hectares of arable land and that only 20% of Sierra Leone’s arable land is currently under cultivation. This is a shocker – and this under-utilisation of the land explains why Freetown is still overpopulated - mostly by an army of unemployed youths, causing a strain on the available facilities – accommodation, water and of course contributing to the volume of otherwise quite disposable excrement and garbage that litters the streets of our once garden capital city.
The acres and acres in the provinces and villages of the peninsular are communally owned, and this guarantees that there is no personal shortage or lack of access that anybody can complain of – everyone (even me) has access to land both in the Western Area and in the provinces (in fact I do have some coconut trees and prime beach land). Everybody – every Sierra Leonean has access to land and all that’s missing is SEEDLING - Dr. Monty Jones seedling when it comes to rice and seedling of all types and also farm equipment and machinery. It’s disheartening to see the slow – snail motions of the ancestral hoe in this day and age of the tractor, combined harvester etc……
(In 1982, when my son and my wife and I visited Senator Francis Ellah in Ekpeye district Rivers State Nigeria, he showed us round his (catfish) fish farm which at that time was netting an annual profit in excess of $8 million. (His younger brother Joe – a University of Durham graduate was my first benefactor in Nigeria (my pocket was never empty): the first party he took me too (well I had already been invited home to the former governor Diete –Spiff and family and the one next door in Calabar Nigeria, the governor, Dr. Matthias Offoboche, was my friend before I came to Nigeria. About my first real big Nigerian Party? Before we entered the mansion, Joe said to me (his san –san brother) “Now Cornelius, there are more than a dozen dollar millionaires at this party, so don’t start any of your socialism or revolutionary bullshit here” I didn’t. There were many nice looking women - probably belonging to some of the big chief policemen. I did not as much as cast a serious glance at any of them. I met the Chief Justice of Rivers state and other dignitaries. The chief Justice was able to identify me before Joe could introduce me, gave me details of our Sierra Leone family, small world it is …. The speaker of the House became my friend to the end, and like Major Sandy Jumu in Ghana) Mallah (his first name) he’s a lawyer and he is also a formidable Scrabble companion).
Agriculture/ farming pays.) Levy Braide was Minster of Agriculture in Rivers state under Shehu Shagari and Chief Melford Okilo the governor. I knew all in the Braide family, especially bro AKONTE Braide, the scholar. Stayed as a guest on his island Bakana for eighteen months. Professor Tam David-West, another Kalabari man was Minster of oil and hails from Buguma another of my Kalabari islands – where Mr. Princewill of the Amachree Royal House an FBC grad, was rector of the Kalabari national College – I stayed in Buguma as a guest of a guy called Shirley Moore (not gay, that was his name, that’s all). My mother’s called Evelyn……like Waugh.
…. about this san-san boys business, the Professor and the likes of Robin Horton would sit with everyone of their age mates – that’s the peer group whether fisherman or musician or business tycoons on the same benches – like Muslims praying shoulder to shoulder - they’d sit on the benches for poyo drinking – or at some of the funeral wakes we had … Buguma is the burial place of the King of Highlight trumpet, CARDINAL REX LAWSON, and I did my pilgrimage first thing…..) Sierra Leone-Nigeria connections are great and at most have to be activated by sociable people.)
There has to be a government agenda which must succeed in transferring that aforementioned army of unemployed energy, back to working the land. Don’t they know that much more money is to be made by farming, than by sweating in any air conditioned office in tie and Jackrabbit jacket…..?
What Jimmy Carter is to the peanut, Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani is to the pistachio, - and here it’s matter of scale, but that too Ahmad Tejan Kabbah is to rice-framing as he leads by setting an example to follow in the agriculture sector. No matter what his critics say, and no matter the extent to which the promise of not going to bed hungry by 2007 falls short of fulfilment, Farmer Kabbah is the Sierra Leone head of state who more than any other has raised the issue of FOOD SECURITY, from theory to the practicals of tilling the ground, has summoned Chinese expertise to teach us rice cultivation, and those are footsteps worth following , putting our money/ energy where our mouths feed. (Hindus and Bangladeshi Muslims make duas, for the farmers who grow the rice that we eat, before they (like us) take the first “mondoh”/ handful of “ress”/rice.
Jimmy Carter
Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani
Ahmad Tejan Kabbah
Thorbjorn Fälldin( former prime minister of Sweden ) was a farmer, and leader of the Centre Party – “ the Farmers Party” currently one of the alliance partners in the Coalition of Conservative Parties now in government in Sweden , under Fredrik Reinfeldt, our 42-yaer old prime minister.
Fredrik Reinfeldt:
http://www.google.se/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4ADBR_enSE222SE222&q=Fredrik+Reinfeldt+%28English+results+only
May Lady Doris Kargbo’s “Green Gold “revolution come true and her dedication to rice, sorghum, maize, and cassava cultivation is worthy of imitation. (I wonder how Professor PK’s cassava Farm is doing. Congratulations to him for setting such a bright example outside of the English department in Texas – something he learned over there in industrial Shef-field).
Even more impressive is Mr. Sahid Koroma’s achievement (did you see all that gigantic factory equipment (his factory) looks like an Iranian nuclear facility in its earlier stages) and those bags of agricultural finished products, all ready for the cooking pots?
Hopefully in a few years time there will be hundreds of such enterprises and by then just as China is building Nigeria’s railway system (@ $ 8 billion) so too the Sierra Leone Bo- Pendembu- Lunsar – Bamako should be on its way – as necessary part of infrastructure linking production to country wide distribution and also to the export harbour.
Potential investors are here and there, standing in line once they are assured of a congenial climate, favourable to investment. Dr. Rogers (Governor of the Bank of Sierra Leone) had a whole page advertisement in The Economist, assuring of that kind of policy and stability.
Investments will ensure wide-scale employment and full scale employment in the agricultural sector will guarantee food security (at a certain time in China’s development history, Chairman Mao put the academics to work in the rice paddies, to learn the lesson – and today the crisis in Zimbabwe is mostly because of Mugabe’s unsuccessful farm policies - some of the farms that he gave to his cronies, have since gone out of production, useless.)
Only real farming can guarantee food security – provide security for the dictatorship of the belly – and cash crops could generate foreign exchange in excess of what diamonds are raking in to the nation’s treasury. In 1983, in co-operation with others in Rivers state we could have set up a canning industry……( fish canning) but all the bottlenecks and that 20-30% that must be set aside for greasing palms in order to see the deal through – even before you start to count profits that will continue for generations….
In my humble opinion, whatever party / parties wins the election (even by the margin of 15, 000 votes) and forms a government has the duty of continuing to do everything possible to create an even more favourable business environment that’s conducive to investment. The SLPP – on paper has put in place most of the conditions that make it easier to establish business in Sierra Leone. At the moment it’s mainly CORRUPTION - money DEMANDED at various levels by the envoys and conduits to higher levels demanding baksheesh that’s what’s holding things back. These incidents get reported and the news spreads like wild-fire – you can imagine when a crime investigator arrives in Freetown posing as a businesses man wraps the whole procedure and maps out the conduit to the corridors of corruption. It’s the country’s reputation that gets tarnished among the friends of the business community even here in Scandinavia ( somebody – a Norwegian businessman who helped provider electrification during Pa Shaki’s time, was shot at Brookfields and his ring taken off his finger, when he flew to Freetown to claim the outstanding debts that that government owed him)
The country’s reputation for being corrupt did not start in 1964) – and it’s this reputation and the SLPP’s toothless war against corruption that is scaring off investments. That and the fear of political instability posed by hooligans, who contribute to that threat and who is it that doesn’t want a free and fair election? Who would not accept the results of such an election? Who would then say “We was robbed”?
NB. Profits go to businessmen, farmers, and to the national treasury, through TAXATION.
The fight is to get better prices for Agricultural produce, from the WTO etc……
In Israel the Pensioners Party went from being nothing, to getting a miraculous nine seats in the Knesset. Little chance of that happening in Sierra Leone even by those who plan for the future, with the present levels of mortality being 39 years for women and 37 years for men.
Yet look at the - in this instance, wonderful president Kabbah’s launching of the NASSIT Office in Makeni
http://www.thepatrioticvanguard.com/article.php3?id_article=1238
This news item is also worth taking a look at:
http://www.thepatrioticvanguard.com/article.php3?id_article=1248
Farmers are a big interest group in any land full of stomachs and empty bellies:
Subject: Re: BUSINESS FOLKS ARE DOING GREAT IN SA LONE ( corrxeted
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 15:24:57 05/21/07 ()
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Man to man:
Dem belly full but we hungry,
There are also some land and belly-based (either big borbor belleh or poor empty stomach
Subject: Re: BUSINESS FOLKS ARE DOING GREAT IN SA LONE
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 08:13:48 05/21/07 ()
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I’m not going to read this over and admit to all the mis-takes made herein. I proof read peoples’ PhDs.
To those who want to act as my literati or philosophical mentor be assured that I feel free and as Ali said, the bird cannot fly up to me - when I wanna fly.
So such a one does not have to read this as we will never truck with the same kind of san-san poetry unless she/he is qualified or sponsored by good taste, to enjoy or judge it or whatever is not composed in the stilted versions of journalese/officialese’s shop-soiled prose. For a legal opinion, I know where to turn. For an economic one, I’d ask Jeffrey Sachs, thank you- or one of the very successful businessmen – and not promise him that should I be in power I’d help him fleece the country if only he’ll give me my own profitable advantage – as a percentage.
The whole of what I write is MY relevancy and throughout school and at both O and A levels I was used to write A plus essays. This is just some very humble chat. MY response to the posting. You don’t like it? Then write your own response. I wouldn’t expect it to be the same as mine. We-re not the same person and you are certainly not my school teacher. You are no professor Bankole Thompson who I’d listen to today as I did yesterday and I wonder whether he and classmate Blyden got the recordings of Penguin audio books of Selected Poems of William Blake and Alfred Lord Tennyson that I sent them? I’d like to send some to my other classmates, clerk of the House Joseph Carpenter, Edna Becker of Harford School Moyamba) and Aminata Mahdi. Edmund Lahai is sadly departed.
“IF THE MOUNTAIN WILL NOT COME TO MOHAMMED, MOHAMMED WILL GO TO THE MOUNTAIN!”
Thanks for posting this video which brings Sierra Leone a little closer. It’s an eye-opener and better than imagining what’s happening. The Sierra Leone ministry of information should produce more of these kinds of videos to keep us abreast with news of progress.
Soupsweet Palm tree land with palm tress everywhere. In 1968 Malaysia got their first palm tree seedlings from Nigeria and the Palm industry is now part of a multi billion dollar business in Malaysia. This palm provides most of the soap and many other products on the international market. Nigeria unfortunately abandoned palm production after they discovered oil and today, Malaysia is one of the biggest exporters of palm oil to even our parts of the world.
The video starts by informing us that Sierra Leone has 5.4 million hectares of arable land and that only 20% of Sierra Leone’s arable land is currently under cultivation. This is a shocker – and this under-utilisation of the land explains why Freetown is still overpopulated - mostly by an army of unemployed youths. – causing a strain on the available facilities – accommodation, water and of course contributing to the volume of otherwise quite disposable excrement and garbage that litters the streets of our once garden capital city.
The acres and acres in the provinces and villages of the peninsular are communally owned, and this guarantees that there is no personal shortage or lack of access that any body can complain of – everyone (even me) has access to land both in the Western Area and in the provinces (in fact I do have some coconut trees and prime beach land). Every body – every Sierra Leonean has access to land and all that’s missing is Seedling- Dr. Monty Jones seedling, when it comes to rice and seedling of all types and also farm equipment and machinery – it’s disheartening to see the slow – snail motions of the ancestral hoe in this day and age of the combined harvester etc……
(In 1982, when my son and my wife and I visited Senator Francis Ellah in Ekpeye district Rivers State Nigeria, he showed us round his (catfish) fish farm which at that time was netting an annual profit in excess of $8 million. (His younger brother Joe – a University of Durham graduate was my first benefactor in Nigeria (my pocket was never empty): the first party he took me too (well I had already been invited home to the former governor Diete –Spiff and family and the one next door in Calabar Nigeria, Dr. Matthias Offoboche was my friend before I came to Nigeria. Before we entered the mansion, Joe said to me (his san –san brother) “Now Cornelius, there are more than a dozen dollar millionaires at this party, so don’t start any of your socialism or revolutionary bullshit here” I didn’t. There were many nice looking women- probably belonging to some of the big chief policemen. I did not as much as talk to them. I met the Chief Justice of Rivers state and other dignitaries. The chief Justice was able to identify me before Joe could introduce me, gave me details of our Sierra Leone family, small world it is …. The speaker of the House became my friend to the end, and like Major Sandy Jumu in Ghana) Mallah (his first name) he’s a lawyer and is a formidable Scrabble companion) Agriculture/ farming pays.) Levy Braide was Minster of Agriculture in Rivers state under Shehu Shagari and Chief Melford Okilo the governor. I knew all in the Braide family, especially bro AKONTE Braide. The scholar. Stayed as a guest on his island Bakana for eighteen months. Professor Tam David-West, another Kalabari man was Minster of oil and hails from Buguma another of my Kalabari islands – where Mr. Princewill of the Amachree Royal House an FBC grad, was rector of the Kalabari national College – about san-san boys business, the Professor and the likes of Robin Horton would sit with ever one of their age mates – that’s the peer group whether fisherman or musician or business tycoon on the same benches for poyo – or at some of the funeral wakes we had … Buguma is the burial place of the King of Highlight trumpet, CARDINAL REX LAWSON, and I did my pilgrimage first thing…..) Sierra Leone-Nigeria connections are great and at most have to be activated by sociable people.)
There has to be a government agenda which must succeed in transferring that aforementioned army of unemployed energy, back to the land. Don’t they know that much more money is to be made by framing, than by sweating in any air conditioned office in tie and Jackrabbit jacket…..?
What Jimmy Carter is to the peanut, Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani is to the pistachio, - and here it’s matter of scale, but that too Ahmad Tejan Kabbah is to rice-framing as he leads by setting an example to follow in the agriculture sector. No matter what his critics say, and no matter the extent to which the promise of not going to bed hungry by 2007 falls short of fulfilment, Farmer Kabbah is the Sierra Leone head of state who more than any other has raised the issue of FOOD SECURITY, from theory to the practical of tilling the ground, has summoned Chinese expertise in rice cultivation, and those are footsteps worth following , put our money/ energy where our mouths feed. (Hindus and Bangladeshi Muslims make duas, for the farmers who grow the rice that we eat, before they (like us) take the first “mondoh”/ handful of “ress”/rice.
Jimmy Carter
Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani
Ahmad Tejan Kabbah
Thorbjorn Fälldin( former prime minister of Sweden ) was a farmer, and leader of the Centre Party – “ the Farmers Party” currently one of the alliance partners in the Coalition of Conservative Parties now in government in Sweden , under Fredrik Reinfeldt, our 42-yaer old prime minister.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fredrik_Reinfeldt
May Lady Doris Kargbo’s “Green Gold “revolution come true and her dedication to rice, sorghum maize and cassava cultivation is worthy of imitation. (I wonder how Professor PK’s cassava Farm is doing. Congratulations to him for setting such a bright example outside of the English department in Texas – something he learned over there in Shef-field)
Even more impressive is Mr. Sahid Koroma’s achievement (did you see all that factory equipment and those bags of agricultural finished products, all ready for the cooking pots?
Hopefully in a few years time there will be hundreds of such enterprises and by then just as China is building Nigeria’s railway system (@ $ 8 billion) so too the Sierra Leone Bo- Pendembu- Lunsar – Bamako should be on its way – as necessary part of infrastructure linking production to country wide distribution and also to the export harbour.
Would be investors are here and there, standing in line once they are assured of a congenial climate, favourable to investment. Dr. Rogers (Governor of the Bank of Sierra Leone) had a whole page advertisement in the Economist, assuring of that kind of policy and stability.
Investments will ensure wide-scale employment and full scale employment in the agricultural sector will guarantee food security (at a certain time in China’s development history, Chairman Mao put the academics to work in the rice paddies, to learn the lesson – and today the crisis in Zimbabwe is mostly because of Mugabe’s unsuccessful farm policies - some of the farms given to his cronies, have since gone out of production)
Only real framing can guarantee food security – security for the dictatorship of the belly – and cash crops could generate foreign exchange in excess of what diamonds are raking in to the nation’s treasury…. In 1983, in co-operation with others in Rivers state we could have set up a canning industry……( fish canning) but all the bottle necks and that 20-30% that must be set aside for seeing the deal through – even before you start to count profits that will continue for generations….
In my humble opinion, whatever party / parties wins the election (even by the margin of 15, 000 votes) and forms a government has the duty of continuing to do everything possible to create an even more favourable business environment that’s conducive to investment. The SLPP – on paper has most of the conditions that make it easier to establish business in Sierra Leone. At the moment it’s mainly CORRUPTION- money DEMANDED at various levels by the envoys and conduits to higher levels demanding baksheesh that’s holding things back These incidents get reported and the news spreads like wild-fire – you can imagine when a crime investigator arrives in Freetown posing as a businesses man wraps the whole procedure and maps out the conduit to the corridors of corruption.. It’s the country’s reputation that gets tarnished among the friends of the business community even here in Scandinavia ( somebody – a Norwegian businessman who helped provider electrification during Pa Shaki’s time, was shot at Brookfields and his ring taken off his finger, when he flew to Freetown to claim the outstanding debts that that government owed him)
The country’s reputation for being corrupt did not start in 1964) – and it’s this reputation and the SLPP’s toothless war against corruption that is scaring off investments. That and the fear of political stability posed by hooligans, who contribute to that threat and who is it that doesn’t want a free and fair election? Who would not accept the results of such an election? Who would then say “We was robbed”?
NB. Profits go to business men and to the national treasury, through TAXATION.
The fight is to get better prices for Agricultural produce, from the WTO etc……
Subject: Re: BUSINESS FOLKS ARE DOING GREAT IN SA LONE
From: Joseph Smith
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Date Posted: 18:09:54 05/20/07 ()
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Sengbe do you know whether I can be able to purchase land and do the some large scale farming like Mr. Koroma or would I be precluded from owning my own land up country.
Subject: Re: BUSINESS FOLKS ARE DOING GREAT IN SA LONE
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 18:44:45 05/20/07 ()
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Mr. Joseph Smith,
I am not Sengbe. I have stated that repeatedly on this forum.
Anyway, you can purchase land and do farming in most places up-line. In some places, it is better to lease the land from the local folks in the village. I recently did that in Kono and I am working with the locals to set up an agricultural company.
Regards,
I-Man
Subject: Re: BUSINESS FOLKS ARE DOING GREAT IN SA LONE
From: John
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Date Posted: 18:16:52 05/20/07 ()
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Edmund Koker is a dim-witted, rude triablist. To expect a sober answer from him about a business venture is like expecting the corrupt Kabbah and Berewa to act in the interest of Salone.
Subject: John Leigh's Speculations about Yaya's Sexual Health
From: Waraba
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Date Posted: 16:11:40 05/20/07 ()
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Waraba states that his sexual health is strong and robust. No cause for alarm. Yaya Fanusie declared that his mild responses so far is due to his current bout with hayfever. Because of this condition, he can not feel comfortable entering into combat with the likes of John Leighs. This noble son of Songhay would only attack when he felt that the response was due to the provocation and not because he is irritable because of his hayfever condition.
Waraba
Subject: Re: John Leigh's Speculations about Yaya's Sexual Health
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 11:20:14 05/21/07 ()
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Dear Waraba:
Delighted to know that you are in robust sexhealth. And I hope you will get completely well soon re your hayfever. Let's resume the discussion at your convenience. - JL
Subject: Re: John Leigh's Speculations about Yaya's Sexual Health
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 04:45:13 05/21/07 ()
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Coz Yaya noble son of Songhay can always count on Count Zaddik Isaac his noble cousin to land the extra punches wherever necessary, if the hay fever is causing any unnecessary delay
Subject: THE BOREHOLE DEBATE
From: WATER MAN
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Date Posted: 11:54:26 05/20/07 ()
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Sierra Leone: The Dawn of Boreholes
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Concord Times (Freetown)
OPINION
17 May 2007
Posted to the web 17 May 2007
Ndilei Swarray
Freetown
Sierra Leone boasted of reliable and affordable pipe borne water supply system in the late 50s and early 70s, which gradually collapsed after this period due to factors such as population growth, political instability, long civil conflicts, and obviously corruption.
And these affected the whole economic development of this nation. As a result, rich people turned to alternative service providers such as tank (water bowsers) supply services as well as bottle vendors that are of high quality but very expensive too. Those who cannot afford it turned to other alternative sources of potable water supply such as unprotected springs and streams flowing from beneath the hills.
Protection of springs, rain water harvesting and the abstraction and development of the ground water resources are some of the alternative sources of water supply. It is quite true that our country has huge surface and ground water resources that could be harnessed to alleviate this acute water problem in the city.
Ground water is not only in huge supply as compared to surface water but also has certain advantages and attributes such as its sustainability and reliability as a source of water supply. This is because it is less vulnerable to pollution and usually free of pathogenic organisms. This means it needs little or no treatment before use. This is a big health advantage.
It also has low vulnerability to drought.
Congruently, the cost of development of this huge surface water resources of Sierra Leone, especially treatment and disinfection are very expensive than that of a borehole. This means we can turn to our groundwater resources for adequate, affordable, sustainable and immediate water supply services. In fact one sound ways of best management practice of our water resources is by conjunctive use of both our surface and groundwater. This simply means using developed surface water in the rainy season and groundwater in the dry season.
Groundwater can be accessed or abstracted by digging or drilling into the ground to produce wells. There are three main types of wells: the traditional hand dug wells (open wells), hand drilled wells (large diameter wells) and boreholes. The first and second types are quite expensive in monetary terms but can be affected by droughts and seasonal declines, as most times they are outside the aquifer (water bearing stratum) zone (that is tapping perched water table).
Also both are highly susceptible to health hazards as they are easily polluted. The third one, which is the borehole, may be expensive but is the safest source of water supply.
Boreholes are drilled with rigs that can drill at depths over three hundred metres. They have the advantages of speed, precision, hygiene and sustainability. Some boreholes have lasted for over two hundred years supplying affordable and quality water. All that it will need is constant re-development.
Boreholes are widely used all over the world. For instance, Libya is getting about eighty percent of its water supply from boreholes developed in the Saharan deserts. Water Utilities in the UK such as Severn Trent, Anglia Waters, Thames Valley, etc use boreholes to provide water services to metro cities like London, Kent, Birmingham, Nottingham, Manchester, etc.
Boreholes provide quality and affordable water supply services in most urban cities in Africa and other developing nations of the world. West Africa for instance, Ghana, Burkina Faso, Mali, The Gambia and Nigeria get much of their pipe borne water supply services from boreholes.
Also, when yields (water produce from the borehole) are high, boreholes can be developed into pipe borne water supply services. The newly commissioned boreholes (water wells) by the government in the eastern part of Freetown were of low yields and therefore installed with hand pumps. On the contrary, the other government boreholes in Grafton are of quite substantial yield that will be installed with electrical submersible pumps which can then be developed into pipe borne water supply system of over ten miles radius.
In the absence of good water supply services in the city, it is the duty of the Government to provide alternative water supply service that is adequate, affordable, robust and of high quality for its people.
If this has happened, I do not see it as a retrogression or backwardness, but rather the government must be commended at least for such development drive.
In fact this type of ground water exploitation is not well known in Sierra Leone. However, it has been welcomed by many industries, non-governmental agencies and even the average Sierra Leonean. It has the potential to relieve the city of this acute water shortage if more investment is made into it and if properly managed.
Therefore, it sounds very naive for somebody to term this venture of providing quality and affordable water supply for the city by developing boreholes as retrogression and non-development.
Subject: Re: THE BOREHOLE DEBATE
From: ENGINEER
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Date Posted: 11:56:10 05/20/07 ()
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CULLED FROM VISIT SIERRA-LEONE FORUM
BY A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER
It is amazing how our political leaders will allow their supporters to post "opinions" in the press showing support for them but obviously showing ignorance in the topic they are addressing. A case in point is the recent article from a PMDC supporter claiming in the article title that "SLPP Takes Freetown Back to the Age of Water Wells And Berewa is Proud of It". I am not a registered member of any political party. However, it is sickening for these so-called political supporters, out of ignorance to try to spin a very positive development of using boreholes for water supplies to a negative of taking the Country back to the "Dark-Ages" by using water wells.
The level of ignorance exhibited by the PMDC supporter is obvious from this statement from his article: "That is, the fact that some residents of one part of Freetown are served with pipe-borne water supply system while others drink from water wells. That is patently unfair and an unequal protection of human standards of modern existence. The rights of equal access to public facilities are disenfranchised somehow."
It is obvoius that this writer does not know that water from boreholes are piped and so water from boreholes is also classified as "piped-borne water" just as water from the Guma Reservoir. If not for the locat1on of the Guma Resrvoir, which for now is not severely exposed to urban pollution, I will take pipe-borne water from a borehole in some parts of Freetown (free from pollution at hundreds of feet below ground level) instead of a surface water source which is potentially exposed to pollution and has to be treated with at least disinfection.
So I cannot agree more with the analysis presented in the second opinion (I assume this is a SLPP supporter) titled "The Dawn of Boreholes". I have posted the links below for both opinions starting with the PMDC supporter. I am thankful that the Grafton project is being implemented so that other options for water supply in addition to Guma are being exploited in Freetown and hopefully in the rest of Sierra Leone.
http://allafrica.com/stories/200705080833.html - Original posting from PMDC Supporter
http://allafrica.com/stories/200705170553.html - Rebuttal posting from SLPP Posting.
Subject: Re: THE BOREHOLE DEBATE
From: FOOTGOENDOE
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Date Posted: 18:18:23 05/20/07 ()
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Bra,
you are wasting your time on Toegondoe Footgoedoe Morie Dumbeh Mussafa Munku. The guy is a freaking idiot. His level of ignorance is shocking. Wht do you expect from Mumbo Dumbo Munku, though.
Subject: Re: THE BOREHOLE DEBATE
From: Toe
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Date Posted: 18:20:16 05/20/07 ()
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Sengbe, it takes one idiot to know another. And some idiots are more idiotic than others.
Subject: Re: THE BOREHOLE DEBATE
From: IDIOT
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Date Posted: 19:12:16 05/20/07 ()
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THOU SHALL NOT USE MY IN VAIN
Subject: Re: THE BOREHOLE DEBATE
From: BEHAVE YOURSELF
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Date Posted: 08:33:21 05/21/07 ()
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KOKER, BEHAVE YOURSELF.
Subject: Rosenior makes return to Torquay. needs to SLPP is corrupt
From: BBC
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Date Posted: 10:40:03 05/20/07 ()
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Rosenior makes return to Torquay
Leroy Rosenior
Rosenior was sacked as Brentford manager in November 2006
Torquay have named former first-team coach Leroy Rosenior as their head coach following their relegation from the Football League.
The 43-year-old takes over from Keith Curle who was on a short-term contract which expires at the end of next month.
"I'm not promising overnight success. I'm enthused to be back, in many ways I wish I had never left," he told the club website.
"Everything stems from what happens on the pitch next season."
Rosenior's first spell at Plainmoor lasted for nearly four years, before he left the club by mutual consent in February 2006.
He worked as a first-team coach at Shrewsbury before being appointed Brentford manager in June 2006, only to be sacked five months later.
More recently, he worked with the Sierra Leone national team and was in charge for their friendly with Leyton Orient earlier this month.
Sierra Leone had hoped he would carry on working with them in the future.
Subject: The SLPP legacy of suffering for all Sierra Leoneans
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Date Posted: 09:33:12 05/20/07 ()
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Japanese women live longest
WHO report says San Marino men are tops at age 80
Alexander G. Higgins, Associated Press
Saturday, May 19, 2007
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GENEVA — A boy born in San Marino, a tiny republic surrounded by Italy, will likely live to age 80, the world's longest male life expectancy, but newborn girls in Japan and 30 other countries have even better prospects, the World Health Organization said.
Sierra Leone registered the shortest male life expectancy at 37 years - the same as that of girls in Swaziland, who were at the bottom of the female list, WHO's "World Health Statistics 2007" show.
Subject: Re: The SLPP legacy of suffering for all Sierra Leoneans
From: CADMUS
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Date Posted: 11:42:22 05/21/07 ()
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So now it is all the SLPP's fault?
What a Joker....
Subject: FODAY KALOKOH AND OTHERS
From: EMMERSON
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Date Posted: 08:34:20 05/20/07 ()
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"Nar Clarkson in prayer go strike dem by turn, en den soul nor go rest in peace."
Subject: Re: FODAY KALOKOH AND OTHERS
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 11:38:10 05/20/07 ()
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Although it is not my normal practice oto respond to something that I personaly believe does not deserve a response, I am constrained to contravene my very own rules of engagement on this forum. Please tell meWhat if anything the Late Foday Kalokoh has done to deserve his soul being cursed to hell and damnation?
You probably do not understand the rest of the song and I chose to have that understanding. Let the good brother rest in peace and do not trivialise his passing because today its him tommorow it may be you or someone you love dearly. Would you like your memory or that of your beloved to be treated in such an unfair manner?
Think before you answer. Although all politics is said to be personal, it ned not be too much so. Stay Blessed.
Alieu
Subject: Re: FODAY KALOKOH AND OTHERS
From: DEPUTY MAYOR
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Date Posted: 11:49:10 05/20/07 ()
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Can you tell me some of Kalokoh's achievement as deputy mayor of Freetown? As far as I know, the man never did anything for the people of Freetown. Instead of finding ways to alleviate the sufferings of the people in Freetown, he was busy criss-crossing the country to campaign for the APC. He is just the typical salone politician. You guys are making as if Kalokoh was a hero.
What did he do for the people? I do not wish evil on anyone, so may his soul rest in peace, but he is no hero, just a failed MUMBOLUMMBO DUMBOLOMBO THUGULONBO WORWORLIWOR POLITICIAN.
Subject: Re: FODAY KALOKOH AND OTHERS
From: TIF PAPA
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Date Posted: 11:43:04 05/20/07 ()
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Did you not celebrate when Norman died? Did you not say may his soul rot in hell? You are no different thatmn the guy who posted about Kalokoh. We all know that you are on thgis forum using handles to attack other people. You are just a shameless man, just like your thieving APC dad. Like father like son.
Subject: Re: FODAY KALOKOH AND OTHERS
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 12:42:08 05/20/07 ()
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I NEVER celebrated the death of Chief Norman and you do not have any evidence of that. My position on Norman and the kamajosia has been made clear in my numerous postings. That you may want to associate a posting done by someoneelse to me is a crying shame. The rest of your post regarding my father is summarily ignored. In the future if you want to be taken seriously by me or other serious minded people, then stay away from this crap of insulting other peoples parents, it does not reflect class, except of course if you dont have any.
Subject: Re: FODAY KALOKOH AND OTHERS
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
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Date Posted: 09:58:09 05/21/07 ()
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Alieu, I am very happy to see that you of all people advised somebody that he/she must stay away from insulting other peoples parents because that action does not show class.
Please,always keep your words in your mind.
Subject: Re: FODAY KALOKOH AND OTHERS
From: Alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 22:37:33 05/20/07 ()
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"I NEVER celebrated the death of Chief Norman and you do not have any evidence of that."
You're right!. You went balistics when Norman died, calling him and the Kamajos canibals and even went as far as saying you hope he "rot in hell".
Kalokoh did nothing good as a Deputy Mayor of Freetown. So you guys should not hail him as a Hero.
Subject: Re: FODAY KALOKOH AND OTHERS
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 06:17:48 05/21/07 ()
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You went balistics when Norman died, calling him and the Kamajos canibals.
You are right on point with that, except for the "ballistic" Part. I say again in case you didnt get it the last time, Samuel Hinga Norman and his Kamajors consumed human flesh and that has been the uncontroverted evidence so far at the special court. If you have evidence to the contrary, you should have called the office of the defense counsel. Kalokoh may not have done anything good in your opinion as seputy Mayor of Freetown but ineffectiveness pales in comparison with canibalism dont you think? I still say may the soul of the cannibal chief rot in hell.
In the bigger sphere of things, kalokoh is more of a hero to sierra leone than your cannibal bone crunching kamajor hero, who is one ONLY to the likes of you that condone that culture of EATING OTHER PEOPLE.
Subject: The role of the Media ( for Rev Kabs kanu )
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 23:28:42 05/19/07 ()
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Excerpts from
“The Role of Media in a Democratic Society” (but please read the whole speech- by clicking on the link at the bottom of the page”
“International development cooperation is a key element of Swedish foreign policy. This is a logical consequence of the Government's emphasis in foreign policy on the importance of promoting democracy, human rights and sustainable development.”
“am currently working to ensure that Swedish development cooperation becomes more clearly focused on creating preconditions for democratisation, peace and reconciliation. Intimately linked to this is emphasis on good governance and, for example, efforts to strengthen civil society in our partner countries. Another focus area is the environment and climate change.
Overall, Swedish development cooperation stresses coherence. In what we refer to as the Policy for Global Development, we underline that poverty reduction should not only be a concern to me and to my colleagues in the Ministry for Foreign Affairs who work with international development cooperation. Our Policy for Global Development includes all policy areas. In practice this means that my Government is committed to designing our trade, agricultural, environmental, migration and security policies so that they all contribute to an equitable and sustainable global development. Traditional development cooperation on its own can never counteract the effects of trade barriers or penalty duties on agricultural produce.”
“The principles of democracy, the rule of law, good governance and respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms are interlinked with one another but are also closely related to poverty. Poverty is not only about lack of material resources. It is also about lack of power, opportunities, choice and security.
Democracy and poverty reduction can never be guaranteed by politicians alone, whether they are elected or self-nominated. In the end, it is a question of people's opportunities to influence their situation, claim their rights and being able to voice their concerns. But to exercise these rights presupposes that citizens have access to information that has not been filtered, censored or distorted. How can I claim my rights if I don't know what they are? How can I voice my concerns if I risk being prosecuted for doing so?
These are a few examples of why the role of media is crucial to the development of a country. The quality of the information an individual is able to access will, by necessity, greatly influence his or her ability to participate in the political process. In other words, journalists have a responsibility towards their fellow citizens to provide correct and analytical information.
Lively and independent media are essential components of the complex system of checks and balances that characterises democratic societies. No one, and in particular politicians and civil servants, should be above the law and exempt of scrutiny. Corruption is both a cause and an effect of weak governance. Corruption breeds inefficiency and undermines confidence in the institutions of a society. An Englishman, Lord Acton, once made the now famous statement that "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely". This still holds true. The quality of decisions will inevitably suffer if a free debate is not allowed.
It upsets us when we read about politicians who are forced to resign because of corruption. But at the same time we should also be grateful that such information is published and reaches the public. In 1974 the so-called Watergate scandal eventually forced American president Richard Nixon to resign. This, as you know, was mainly the result of efforts by two journalists at the Washington Post. What if they had lived in a country where they had not been allowed to pursue that story? What if, during their investigative work, they had been told by their editor-in-chief that they should stop their work immediately because the president is above criticism?
But the role of media in a modern society is not only limited to reporting and analysing specific events. Journalists are also opinion builders in their own right. By tracing and critically analysing new trends and tendencies in society, a free media provides decision makers with invaluable information, thereby ensuring, such matters as the quality of legislation. And when it comes to an issue such as the spread of HIV/AIDS, the ability of the press to disseminate information freely and to discuss the topic without having to consider what politicians think is or is not suitable can, in the end, be a matter of saving lives.
We also have to see the role of media in the context of the common challenges we face in an increasingly globalised world. Global challenges emphasise the need to find common solutions. An issue such as the consequences of global warming is one example; the spread of international crime and terrorism is another. To meet these challenges, access to correct information is crucial, for the general public as well as for decision makers.
Promoting free media in other countries is therefore also in our own self -interest. If journalists in other countries are silenced we will ultimately pay a price ourselves. Let me give you an example. We are all aware of the immense challenge that humankind faces in the form of ongoing climate change. Let's say that information about an environmental disaster in a country far away is not allowed to reach the public. Eventually, it might very well be that people in other parts of the world suffer the consequences of information being withheld. Pollution knows no borders. The problem in certain parts of Southeast Asia of the so-called "haze" is a sad illustration of this fact.
Given what I have just said it will come as no surprise to you that Sweden is committed to the development of the media sector in Vietnam. Over the past ten years, Sweden has been the biggest donor in support of efforts to promote democracy in your country through the development of more professional, open, independent and self-reliant media.
Sweden supports interventions in the area of the media that seek to empower people living in poverty. Fundamental points of departure are the right to freedom of expression and freedom of speech, the right to exercise cultural and creative activities, the right to access to information, the right to participation and the right to knowledge. Sweden and Vietnam have ratified international human rights conventions and we both have an obligation to live up to the commitments made as signatories.
Freedom of expression includes the right to seek, receive, express and disseminate opinions, ideas and information without interference, and to do so either orally or in writing through any media. Freedom of expression is a precondition for media pluralism, which in turn is the foundation for strong and functioning media. This facilitates a broad spectrum of information, ideas and opinions in society.
Access to information and the free exchange of opinions are crucial in enabling citizens to take a stance, reach well-founded decisions and make free choices. In my country, the tradition goes back almost two and a half centuries - the Freedom of the Press Act was adopted in the year 1766.
One fundamental cornerstone in Sweden is the principle of public access to official documents. As you can understand this principle is very important for journalists in their reporting and investigative work, especially when they are scrutinising the exercise of power by the Government and other public agencies, but it is also a cornerstone of an open society and an effective tool for monitoring and preventing corruption. In fact, anyone in Sweden, whether they are a Swede or a foreigner, a journalist or a non-journalist, has the right to access documents produced or received by a government agency or body. Even my own incoming and outgoing email at the Ministry is basically in the public domain! Linked to the fundamental law I just mentioned are codes of ethics that the free media have developed and agreed upon by themselves, without interference from the State. There are also public entities to which citizens can turn when they feel offended or abused by media”
Subject: Self-esteem ( resepct begets respect
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 19:27:37 05/19/07 ()
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Emerging from the Holy Sabbath, some thoughts about our SELF-ESTEEM
As a result of all that has happened today, I ask myself, where is the love, where is the joy, where is the unity, where is the sense of humour?
Yes, indeed the Emperor Haile Selassie 1 and the King of Sweden – the grandfather of the present King of Sweden, were the best of friends. If you haven’t done so, please read the Emperor’s autobiography in two parts translated by Edward Ullendorf. I did so, thanks to Bob Marley.
http://www.google.se/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4ADBR_enSE222SE222&q=Edward+Ullendorff+The+autobiography+of+Emperor+Selassie
We were invited out to the home of a Swedish-Ethiopian couple this afternoon, but I couldn’t go (don’t travel by car or public transport on the Sabbath – and the Ethiopian in question is the daughter of the late Emperor’s ambassador to Stockholm, the older sister of whom is no stranger either since she once worked at the Sierra Leone embassy in Italy – is a friend and my cousin Dudley is more informed than I am…..
Both are dear friends, wonderful, humble people and especially good friends of my better half, long before I met her.
I am simultaneously fed up and amused about something that I have never been involved in, namely TRIBALISM and over here with Europe getting together it’s the Brits, the French, the Belgians, the Germans, the Scandinavians, the Slavs, the Italians, the Dutch, The Spaniards, the Portuguese, the Hungarians, the list goes on and on along with their languages.
In the US, black people (according to Richard Pryor) are one tribe and called N-----S, right?
This weeks Torah portion was Bamidbar/Numbers Chapter 1- 4: 20
http://www.google.se/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4ADBR_enSE222SE222&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=PARASHAT+BAMIDBAR
Can we learn something/ anything from this?
The census does away with the “San-San boys” concept/ attitude.
It starts with the Almighty commanding Moses and Aaron with the participation of the tribal chiefs, to take a tribe by tribe census of all males above the age of twenty the minimum age at which a man could serve in the army (and from the Talmud it is evident that men over the age of sixty were not included in the census). Counting heads was forbidden and the method was that each and everyone within that age range was (as my Stone Chumash notes reads, was
to come up before “ the father if all the prophets and his brother, the holy one of God” to tell them his name and to be counted as an individual of personal worth Moses and Aaron with a half Shekel and then these half shekels were to be counted.” The half Shekel was also to show that a Jew was not complete without another Jew (half a shekel + a half shekel = ONE shekel.)
“”The earlier censuses (in Exodus) had counted the nation as a whole, without recognising separate tribal identities………..Until it was established that the central motif in Jewish life is the Sanctuary, there was the danger that one’s identification with his own tribe would lead to “ nationalism” and factionalism. Once it was established however that all tribes looked to the Tabernacle as their primary unifying force, the establishment of separate tribal identities would be healthy. THEN EACH TRIBE WOULD REALISE THAT ITS INDIVIDUAL ABILITIES WOULD BE DEVELOPED FOR THE SERVICE OF ISRAEL’S NATIONAL GOAL OF HEAVENLY SERVICE. THEN THE TRIBES WOULD BE SEPARATE ONLY IN TERMS OF THE UNIQUE ROLES THEY WERE TO PLAY IN REALISING THE NATIONAL DESTINY”
(“The person’s tribal affiliation is patrilineal”) and so they all lined up, the TWELVE TRIBES of Israel starting with the sons of Reuben, the firstborn of Israel.
The tribes: Reuben, Simeon, Gad, Judah, Issachar, Zebulun, Ephraim, Manasseh, Benjamin, Dan, Asher, Naphtali…….
One of the reasons for the existence of this Forum is that we should be able to BRAINSTORM, for solutions and in doing so keep our minds on the solutions. The “argumentum ad hominem” is not the most intelligent or sociable way of getting a point across, whatever the assumption of superior intelligence, knowledge, pedagogic skill, “greatness” or charisma
In all Africa, Ethiopia and Ethiopians are special. They were never colonised. There was that very brief period of occupation by the fascist Italians during which time they imposed their educational system, as a result of which you have some of the now elderly Eritreans who speak Italian as a second language
Just a few days ago after our visit to the cemetery to pay our love and respect to my sister-in-law, the late Emeritus Professor Åsa Kilbom, we lunched with her daughter and some other relatives and friends, one of whom had worked in both Ethiopia and Zambia along with her husband( both doctors). We were walking home to us, me , her , my Australian brother- in-law and I asked her to compare and contrast her experiences in both these counties ( I have two other medical friends – good friends - who worked in Zambia, for a few years, younger and perhaps more adaptable ) so I was curious. My ears listened attentively.
She said that the Zambians were rather aggressive- saw her mostly as Oyibo and wondered if she was there because she couldn’t make it in Sweden as a doctor whereas in Ethiopia, people were much more friendly, more relaxed and more themselves and a lot cooler.
How do you account for the difference I asked?
She replied “The Ethiopians were never colonised” and I added, that those who fought for their independence perhaps still had a residue of ill-feeling.
To what extent did Sierra Leone FIGHT for her independence?
My latest understanding of that history is Akintola Wyse’s book on Bankole-Bright and Colonial politics; it brings out the importance of the Margai brothers, Milton and Albert, of the very goal-oriented Siaka Probyn Stevens, and Dr.John Karefa-Smart among many others who were engaged in the straggle. They all appear in a very admirable light. That book, along with Leo Spitzer’s “The Creoles of Sierra Leone” (which gives Bai Bureh the greatest honours) and is a “must read” to understand the Krio-Upline divide. To better understand for example, those improbable liaisons termed as “marriage” between some old Krio Pas and their upline concubine, a very rare occurrence in the30s and 40s. On the contrary many so- called upline kids were adopted or given by their “provincial” parents to reliable missionary type Creoles, to take care of (“ for Men”) and these Creoles sometimes even gave them their surnames. They say such things about e.g. Pa Shaki, but I don’t know. I do know that it’s unlikely that some stiff upper lip Krio Pa took to wife a lady of the Protectorate whilst already being married to his Creole wife- since that would indeed be bigamy and it’s said that man is by nature polygamous, but the CMS missionary breed is circumspect about having more than one wife. Understandably so. This has to do with the inheritance and the distribution of property when they pass away.
http://www.google.se/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4ADBR_enSE222SE222&q=Akintola+Wyse+%22+Bankole+-Bright
http://www.google.se/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4ADBR_enSE222SE222&q=Leo+Spitzer+%22The+Creoles+of+Sierra+leone
The greatest sin that an English colonial could commit whilst working in any of the African colonies, was to “go native”. It was an unforgivable crime…. And as a matter of fact, I have never seen a poor white man in Africa – although recently, my South African friends have been coming back from SA with stories of some poor white men asking them “Can you spare me a dime mate? Times are hard” This is reported with a great deal of satisfaction.
Now lets get together, forget about San-san boys, fulumunkus, those who are supposed to be drunkards and those who are supposed to be social welfare beneficiaries (which is no crime) and who from Soupsweet Land was it that called me a “jew boy”? Forget about all that and let’s brainstorm:
Subject: Re: Self-esteem ( resepct begets respect
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 16:13:17 05/20/07 ()
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the issue always begins here, and this is where it ends
they always blame it on good leadership
Subject: TO ALL THE GOOD MENDES
From: PEACE
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Date Posted: 19:15:53 05/19/07 ()
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Can you the good Mendes please talk to your brothers to stop the fighting in Mendeland. Can you please remind them we have got enough of this senseless fightings? Please, please, please!
Subject: THIS IS MORE THAN MENDEMAN ISSUE
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 22:04:07 05/19/07 ()
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My good friend, your call should be to all Sierra Leoneans and not just mendes.
Don't forget that there are thousands of Northerners living in the South. Suppose this havoc is caused by them. I am not suggesting in any way they are responsible. Just want you to see the broader picture and not play the tribal card on such important issues.
I believe, it is the responsibility of each one of us to ensure peace prevails in the land. Don't you think in fact it would have more impact on the people in the "Mendeland" if a Northerner or someone else intervene?
Thank you.
Subject: Re: THIS IS MORE THAN MENDEMAN ISSUE
From: Albert Jambai
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Date Posted: 22:36:43 05/19/07 ()
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Moinina,
wassup? Long time. Where you praticing the Margai victory dance? heheheheeheh. Margai don don pata pata. I firmly suspect that former kamajor fighters are behind these arson attacks. They are trying to use it to avenge the death of Norman. this is no soyutherner or northerner affair. These trouble makers must be stopped now, before it gets out of hands.
Moinina, please say hi to PIKIN MARGAI DON CRASE.
Subject: Re: THIS IS MORE THAN MENDEMAN ISSUE
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 05:09:02 05/20/07 ()
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Mr. Jambai,
There is nothing to laugh about whether Ernest, Margai or Berewa wins. Sierra Leone is faced with tremendous challenges, to put it mildly. For some of us we have taken the position as you clearly know because we believe that is the best solution for Sierra Leone. For you to laugh about the alleged down fall of PMDC is to trivialize the dynamics of politics.
Just a quick question: IN CASE BEREWA WINS, WILL YOU BE MOCKING PEOPLE WHO DO NOT SUPPORT THE SLPP?
Bra, this not to laugh buziness. We people den really sorry en need help in terms of job creation, infrastructures and development. If in case Berewa wins and he provides the above, you have every right to stand at the top of the world and laugh with the rest of the world at some of us who were sceptical about Berewa. But until such is achieve, you are laughing at our poor people because victory does not automatically translates to the provision of the above requisite.
Thank you.
Subject: Re: THIS IS MORE THAN MENDEMAN ISSUE
From: FACT
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Date Posted: 06:51:34 05/20/07 ()
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Donwfall of PMDC? I think Margai or Moijue will disagree.Don't ever under-estimate PMDC, those guys are very smart.
Subject: Re: THIS IS MORE THAN MENDEMAN ISSUE
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 11:21:39 05/20/07 ()
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".........Don't ever under-estimate PMDC, those guys are very smart." - FACT
I respectfully disagree. Smart? Where are the PMDC smarts coming from:
The King of Stupid?
Mumbolo-Tombolo-Dumbolos? Munku, foolumunku, phoolumukus?
Form Four? Doing the CKC Slap then the CKC Dropout Dance?
Followed by alphabet-soup political opportunistic traveling in and out the SLPP, PNP, SLPP, APC, SLPP, NUP, SLPP, NUP, SLPP, Resigned SLPP, the SLPP, PMDC in search of "God-given" leadership benefits?
Is leadership merely a game of the letters of the alphabet?
Numerous self-serving lies about Makeni and then the Third Force Double-Cross are really smart, right? Smart also are the dead-of-night organizing of the secretive, dynastic, one-manic ownership party?
The surrounding crookish cabal of Tiff-tiff lawyers, Bangucrooks, remedial dunces, junior tribalists, flunkeys and M-T-D foolumunkus is really smart?
Low grade dunces, noise-makers and crooks really help, yes? It all boils down to a numbers game, right?
Is smart based on mere deceit, deception, duplicity and double-cross?
Or
Blocking voter registration for Fullahs, Mandingos and Susos, followed by the huge double-crossing of Northern Muslim loyalists but only after running-mate written applications were in and supposedly under review?
Why Fullah pandering but no Mandingo or Suso pandering? Is a kindergarten stunt really smart?
It is smart to promote cuss, insults, vulgarisms, heckling, flip-flop/hip-hop moniker abuses, Bombastic lie-lie, bombastic lying allegations, bombastic personal attacks, bombastic talk-talk?
Is it really intelligent to spew forth mouthfuls of Latin to starving, poverty-stricken people with short-life spans in this day and age of deep economic suffering?
An imported can of soft drink would most certainly bring us into a fantastic LEONE-DOLLAR parity for the immediate, instamatic alleviation of mass poverty, right?
One single irrelevant short letter to the editor of one single paper, in one single city, on one single occasion, on one single topic and only once in eleven years by one single importer of a can of soft drink parity immediately and promptly solved the RUF/Charles Taylor problem and none of the actions taken by the many others count for anything, right?
A Thousand Man March in Bo by fed-up, jagah-jagah, munku noisemakers soon after a competitor’s Million Man March is really smart, isn't it?
Spending years and years in the West only to end up licking stamps and sniffing low grade glue in a down-under white man’s basement is really a brilliant achievement for political leadership in our suffering country, isn't it?
PMDC people may be smart to some conscientious people but certainly not to me! Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: THIS IS MORE THAN MENDEMAN ISSUE
From: Corporate Taxes Fraud Flip Lopper
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Date Posted: 13:34:12 05/22/07 ()
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"PMDC people may be smart to some conscientious people but certainly not to me! "
That's beczause you are so dense, you wouldn't know a smart person even after he had corrected your many nonsensical arguments filled with grammatical errors.
Who would expect such a fool to recognize smart people?
Subject: Re: THIS IS MORE THAN MENDEMAN ISSUE
From: FACT
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Date Posted: 17:38:12 05/20/07 ()
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You promised to turn your guns towards PMDC again. I think this is it. Politics is an interesting game.
Subject: Re: THIS IS MORE THAN MENDEMAN ISSUE
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 05:08:00 05/20/07 ()
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Mr. Jambai,
There is nothing to laugh about whether Ernest, Margai or Berewa wins. Sierra Leone is faced with tremendous challenges, to put it mildly. For some of us we have taken the position as you clearly know because we believe that is the best solution for Sierra Leone. For you to laugh about the alleged down fall of PMDC is to trivialize the dynamics of politics.
Just a quick question: IN CASE BEREWA WINS, WILL YOU BE MOCKING PEOPLE WHO DO NOT SUPPORT THE SLPP?
Bra, this not to laugh buziness. We people den really sorry en need help in terms of job creation, infrastructures and development. If in case Berewa wins and he provides the above, you have every right to stand at the top of the world and laugh with the rest of the world at some of us who were sceptical about Berewa. But until such is achieve, you are laughing at our poor people because victory does not automatic translates to the provision of the above requisite.
Thank you.
Subject: Re: THIS IS MORE THAN MENDEMAN ISSUE
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 02:28:13 05/20/07 ()
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Mr. Jambai,
I don't believe the Kamajors have anything to do with the arson attacks. If they wanted to create havoc in the name of Pa Norman, they would have done so the moment he was arrested, or during his time at the special court prison, or when he just died (at a time when emotions were raw).
The culprits are definitely PMDC supporters. Just look at the villages they are attacking (Berewa's village was amongst them).
I applaud Berewa for telling folks not to retaliate. He urged that the culprits will be prosecuted o the fullest extent of the law when they are caught--- and they will be caught soon!
Subject: Re: THIS IS MORE THAN MENDEMAN ISSUE
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 12:40:09 05/20/07 ()
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I-Man:
I agree with you completely.
Having tarried with various ex-Kamajor individuals and groups in the South and East as well as with the Norman family, I can tell you quite confidently that no genuine kamajor will be assaulting villages in SLeone today and no Norman family member will ever condone acts of violence anywhere.
The Norman family is in deep bereavement and seek nothing but a peaceful closure. Ex-Kamajors are protectors, not assaulters; they are nation-builders, not nation-wreckers. They are nice, nice conscientious groups of responsible people who have suffered tremendously to protect their communities from destruction. Today, they seek nothing but peaceful development. PERIOD!
Sure, like the SLPP rank and file, they are not all that happy. But they do not want violence or any split in the SLPP ranks. Instead, they look forward to a free and fair presidential & parliamentary election as well as the return of the SLPP to govern us once more.
They suffered tremendously under APC's marginalization, favoritism, nepotism and poverty spreading. They and/or their parents worked in the mines, the railway and the firms that APC corruption closed. They worked for the whites (businessmen & missionaries) that APC constructively expelled via primitive modes of governance.
They were the produce suppliers of cacao, coffee, piassava, kola nuts, hides, etc. that the SLPMB defrauded and diverted the wealth abroad and to the Gold Coast in Kambia Town - same the Gold Coast section that the RUF turned to rubble.
Kamajors do not want trouble. They want peace as well as a piece of the pie but they are willing to work to creat it fair and square.
Those causing the assaults in Southern villages are probably flunkey individuals or groups resigned to loosing out in the on-going contests for power and who may not want to work.
Flunkeys are the only ones who can foolishly calculate that violence is the only way out for them - just like the AFRC/RUF types. Those flunkeys are no good and will be caught in time. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: THIS IS MORE THAN MENDEMAN ISSUE
From: HONESTLY SPEAKING
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Date Posted: 16:51:39 05/20/07 ()
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John Leigh, those causing the assaults in southern villages may be flunky individuals, but they are also Mendes. Flunky is the politically correct word to define the Mendes and their actions in the South. What have you become my friend? Your current behavior is a far cry from when you told the Limbas just what you thought of them. Come on Leigh, tell the Mendes to behave themselves. They are considered to be very decent people that will not hurt you for telling the truth. Go ahead John, tell the truth!
Subject: Re: THIS IS MORE THAN MENDEMAN ISSUE
From: DECENT PEOPLE MY A__
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Date Posted: 11:28:07 05/22/07 ()
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They are considered to be very decent people that will not hurt you for telling the truth.
Are they really? Think RUF and NDORGBOWUSUI were they decent people? They were mostly made up of mendes and SLPP
Subject: Re: THIS IS MORE THAN MENDEMAN ISSUE
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 13:23:08 05/21/07 ()
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Mr. HONESTLY SPEAKING:
You don't understand!
There are flunkey Limbas as there are flunkey Mendes (like our glue-licking/sniffing idiot), Temnes, Krios, Mandingoes, Fullahs (like our One-grain Man - one grain irrelevant letter, one grain can of soft drink)Konos, etc., etc.
There are also highly intelligent nationalistic Temnes, Limbas, Mendes, Fullahs, Krios, Mandingos, Susos, Konos, etc.
In the case of the killer-raping coupligans, everybody knew that the ring leaders were APC-selected hegemonistic tribalists originating mainly from two, three or four towns only. They were in public view in broad daylight using state resources and facilities and were quite visible and loud while APC loyalists were very quite and probably praying for their comrades' success.
Also, their leader had his own dunce way of pronouncing the name of his own very country: sha-sha-sharleohn!
No such information as above regarding the current Southern violence has come to light. The violence there uses no state resources. It has no visible leadership and only the consequences of the criminal acts are known but only after the deeds have been done in secret and mostly at night or while people are away in their farms.
For all you claim, Mende tribesmen may indeed be involved in the arsons going on in villages in the Southern Province but no one believes that the issue in the South is Bo-SLPP (as opposed to APC Binkolo - JP Koroma, MA Koroma, Gen Momoh, Hassan Conteh, etc., etc.) seeking to impose hegemonistic tribalism.
We simply do not know who the coward is who behind the whole current criminal endeavor.
And even if Mendes are the principal criminals, they may be acting for a multi-tribal political party for probably the benefit of a lone individual, and not necessarily for tribal hegemonistic imperialism. Who knows?
What we do know is that the opposition parties also have Mendes in them.
Accordingly, rather than waste your precious time trying to goad another to rely on your mis-analyasis, let's give the police a reasonable chance to catch the culprits and interrogate them for unlike the APC Binkolo leaders of your, the SLPP government is not silent on the matter at all.
In the future, please never rush to foolishly compare and contrast. There may be more to it than your preference for superficiality realizes. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: THIS IS MORE THAN MENDEMAN ISSUE
From: TO TELL THE TRUTH
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Date Posted: 06:39:29 05/21/07 ()
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John Leigh would not tell the mendes the truth he has become like them, untrustworthy and unable to tell the truth. John Leigh panders to the mende political right. John Leigh had knowledge of what the RUF did when it was basically a mende organisation he did NOT raise a voice in protest then. Johnny Leigh is a hypocrite.
Subject: Re: THIS IS MORE THAN MENDEMAN ISSUE
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 13:29:54 05/21/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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You are talking trash and relying on flunkey dunce argumentation. Please do not start running your mouth until the essential facts are in. When you finally get to know me, you will agree that I stand up for what is right regardless of tribe.
I am a Sierra Leonean first and last. I belong to no one tribe and the upbringing in me is totally de-tribalized and nationalistic. You.................. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: THIS IS MORE THAN MENDEMAN ISSUE
From: TO TELL THE TRUTH
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Date Posted: 15:56:55 05/21/07 ()
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"You" what John?
De-tribalized and nationalistic? Tell that to the Limbas.
Subject: Re: THIS IS MORE THAN MENDEMAN ISSUE
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 16:28:06 05/21/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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What Limbas? APC's KDDA, Ekutay and Coupligan hegemonistic Limbas? Those who executed their own kind (such as Bambay Kamara)? I don't have time for those amnesty beneficiaries unless they want help becoming genuine nationalists and civilized people.
Nationalist Limbas know of my national outlook very well already. So I do not need to tell them that I am a nationalist.
For your information, it was a highly educated nationalist Limba family (nice couple with their three beautiful children) that helped me burst up a Krio gang of consular-fee thieves at the embassy. And it was nationalistic Krios that helped me burst up a Krio gang of drunks and duty-free liquor abusers at the embassy.
My secretary throughout my entire six years at the embassy was a nationalistic Tonko Limba lady who was most excellent at her job and never once betrayed the democratic side despite hegemonistic tribal pressure. And, what was nice, she introduced me to many fine Limbas.
One feeble-minded frog doctor who is presently busy writing boto-bata to denigrate VP Berewa and heap undeserved worthless praise on Mr. Margai in cocorioko.net, spent over 8 years in the DC Area trying to portray me as anti-Limba to all comers.
He never succeeded. They merely laughed behind his feeble-looking face after his departure and gave me details of his dunce efforts.
Later, I learnt he was working for one of the present presidential candidate who has been worried about my political competitiveness ever since his days in Conakry. - JL
Subject: Re: THIS IS MORE THAN MENDEMAN ISSUE
From: A.B.Sankoh
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Date Posted: 22:27:09 05/19/07 ()
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The broader picture here, my friend Moinina, consist of Mendes fighting Mendes for power. Bringing Northerners into this mess ain't going to help. It is high time the Mendes accept responsibility for their actions without having Northerners to blame.
Subject: Re: THIS IS MORE THAN MENDEMAN ISSUE
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 05:29:05 05/20/07 ()
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Mr. Sankoh,
I never said the Northerners should be brought into this mess. What is disturbing to me is for Sierra Leoneans to start seeing a major security issue on tribal basis even though such incident occurs within a particular tribe.
The RUF war is a classic example where those in Freetown classified it as "upline war". Eventually, the atrocities caused in Freetown within a given timeframe is not comparable to the rest of what happened "upline".
Another example is the problems black face in America. Most whites believe it is a blackman's problem. You see where the blacks are even today?
Have a good weekend.
Subject: English Premier referees are the worst
From: KABS KANU
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Date Posted: 17:26:24 05/19/07 ()
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I am Manchester United body and soul. No doubt about that. However, what I am saying has nothing to do with today's 1-0 victory over United by Chelsea in the F.A.Cup final. One team had to win. That's soccer. After all, we are still champions.
However, the English Premier League has the worst referees who get easily intimidated by loud-mouths like Jose Murinho who spent $700 million on players just to win the League Cup and F.A.Cup. Chelsea were spending big money while Liverpool won the Champions League two years ago and are in another final this year. Nothing about Chelsea ever impresses me. For all their big spending, they can't even win the Champions League. Arsenal are our bitterest rivals but I respect them more than Chelsea. Give Wenger all the money that crazy Russian has given Murinho and Arsenal would have made a clean sweep of all trophies.Murinho is just full of big mouth as the Liberian would say. He is just lucky to manage big money-spending teams all the time.
But back to today.Only the most inept and incompetent referee will fail to give a goal after the Chelsea keeper carried the ball over the line. It crossed the line as TV replays showed. It was a clean goal. No doubt about it, but the referee who had been intimidated all week by Murinho refused to give the goal.
This is happening all the time, not only where United are concerned. Teams have been relegated because of bad refereeing.
English Premier soccer is the best but the referees are also the worst. Something must be done to train referees more to learn the rules of th
Subject: Re: English Premier referees are the worst
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 22:22:17 05/19/07 ()
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Rev Kanu,
Fulham is my team since boyhood and Chelsea you see is not so far away........
I haven't seen the match yet, and I sure don't want to be in your black book - one benchmark away from everlasting banishment.
NB. I have my own blog and you won't belive what I can do .... but as you know, faith comes through hearing
About Sierra Leone vs. Equatorial Guinea or Germany, you know that we're on the same side...
Subject: Re: English Premier referees are the worst
From: Steven
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Date Posted: 21:05:21 05/19/07 ()
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Just another cry-baby reverene. Now tell me whats the difference between u and Maurinho? Chelesea deservedly won the match. They deserve the FA Cup, and no doubt about. Maurinho has put his mouth where his money is. In three years, he has won the most impressive haul of trophies in English football History. He speaks with much honesty in situations where other rivals fear FA reprimand.
When Jose arrived at Stamford bridge in 2004, by December, Chelsea was top of the league table and it too ManUre 18 bloody months to catch up. He reinvigorated team spirit in Terry, Lampard, Essein, Carvalo, Makhelele and Drogba. Now if thats not an achievement, then I dont know what is. I know how hard and frustrated it was for all ManUre fans, but you were playing Chelsea and no one expected a different result.
Steven
Subject: Re: English Premier referees are the worst
From: Ahmed
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Date Posted: 20:00:00 05/19/07 ()
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Kabs "warm hart nor mix,bra",I agree with you the ref erred in his judgement in deciding that call,I mean the call or non call that involved Ryan Giggs.It was a foul as Giggs made contact with the goalie and the ref failed to award a free kick to Chelsea.Let's toast towards the successs of our African brother Drogba in the Premiership this year,a league that recently discovered the talents of African players.
Is the premiership not enough for you guys,please let the trophies go around,next Wednesday,it would be Liverpool's turn.
Cheers.
Subject: Re: English Premier referees are the worst
From: Sylvester Johnny
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Date Posted: 19:54:26 05/19/07 ()
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Hi Rev!
I am a ManU fan like you but we have Giggs to blame for not scoring with an open goal than the ref. We need an astablished forward.Rooney plays better when he plays behind a striker. We are still champions and nothing will change that.
Cheers,
Sylvester
Subject: Re: English Premier referees are the worst
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 19:31:49 05/19/07 ()
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Sorry Rev,the Red Devils can't win all the time
Some of the moderators( of other forums) are worse than the refs you are groaning about...
Subject: Cash shortages may hit Sierra Leonean Banks
From: kroobaymom
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Date Posted: 16:35:29 05/19/07 ()
Email Address: kroobaymom@yahoo.com
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It is rumored that most commercial banks may soon start hoarding bank notes and limit withdrawals. Huge withdrawals made by the ruling SLPP have been done over time to limit the availability of money in circulation and to make funds availability to opposition parties limited.
Ya Yeanor who sells fruits opposite the Sweissy says she may have to rely on the niceness of the supermarket manager to cash checks written by her customers. Abu a driver who keeps a savings account at a local bank says he does not write checks and is not sure how he is going to buy petrol to run his poda-poda.
The Bank Governor should focus on this issues instead of running around politicking and campaigning for the SLPP.
Subject: Re: Cash shortages may hit Sierra Leonean Banks
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 17:37:11 05/19/07 ()
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Which fruit seller in Sa Lone takes checks as form of payments from customers? Which gas station in Sa Lone takes checks from taxi drivers as form of payment for petrol???
Stop disgracing yourself.
Subject: President John Mohamed Kamara
From: Almamy Seray-Wurie Si
To: All
Date Posted: 16:02:59 05/19/07 ()
Email Address: almamysi@hotmail.com
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What would you do in your first 100 days as SL's President?
Subject: Re: President John Mohamed Kamara
From: truth
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Date Posted: 06:08:05 05/20/07 ()
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dance
Subject: Re: President John Mohamed Kamara
From: SP
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Date Posted: 09:42:47 05/20/07 ()
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good answer for an idiotic question
Subject: Re: President John Mohamed Kamara
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq.
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Date Posted: 12:36:43 05/20/07 ()
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I woulld nt consider this an idiotic question and heres why. Many of us on this forum have stated our opposition or support of this government or other governments. We have gone so far as to tell the world what we believe we could do to make a better sierra leone. The question asks us to put ourselves in the position of the new president of sierra leone and what policy or policies would be most importnt for you to implement in the first one hundred days of your administration. Heres my response to the very brilliant question posed by Almamy.
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In the first hundred days of my administration as president, I will do the following:
1. I will order all agreements for the mining of precious metals and gems in sierra leone, be presented to my office for evaluation by a group of lawyers and citizens. The purpose of the examination is to assess whether the previous agreements signed by the outgoing government was in the interest of the people of sierra leone and whether or not these agreements are fair to all parties, considering he totality of the circumstances.
2. I will order a moratorium on all mining activities in sierra leone for 30 days, and if necessary, dispatch a contingent of the army to enforce the ban.
3. I will have prepared and presented to parliament on an expedited basis, legislation which will outlaw the presence of any non sierra leoneans in any areas where diamonds are mined, without the necessary permits.
4. I will have prepared and presented to parliament on an expedited basis, legislation which will create an office of the independent prosecutor for the Anti Corruption Commission, strengthen the ACC statutes, Divest the actions of the ACC from any governmental influence and hindrance.
5 I will have prepared and presented to parliament on an expedited basis, legislation which will create zoning laws within the city of freetown and the western area, create and empower a western area legislative council, which will enforce the building and zonning laws that would be promulgated by parliament and the city of freetown council.
6. I will have prepared and presented to parliament on an expedited basis, legislation which will create a new set of laws for the enforcement of traffic and motor vehicle laws. This will be called the Sierra Leone Department of motor vehicles. I will cause to be outlawed all those vehicles on the road who have clear defects such as those that appear to be comming at you with their sides clearly exhibiting frame damage. I will seek the passing of laws that will protect consumers and the public in sierra leone. Laws that will protect the road using public and provide for adequate compensation in the event of any injuries caused by automobiles. Rather than the two bags of rice and cost of funeral expenses that a victim of an automobile tort is now entitled to. I will seek enforcement of the traffic laws by the creation of special traffic courts within the cities for the prosecution of all traffic violations. These traffic courts will have the force and effect of municipal courts with the power to sentence violators to prison for any violations deemed so punishable.
7. I will have prepared and presented to parliament on an expedited basis, legislation which will outlaw discrimination based on tribe, sex and disability for any jobs in the public sector. An enforcement mechanism will be created with judicial remedies for aggreived parties.
8. I will have prepared and presented to parliament on an expedited basis, legislation which will be called the indegeneous economic plan. This plan will provide incentives for sierra leoneans who want to go into business in terms of tax breaks and other economic advantages not readily available to non sierra leoneans. The sum total of this legislation will be to provide incentives for sierra leoneans to invest in their own country particularly in the areas of manufacturing. Said legislation will have a rider which will cause any corporation doing business in sierra leone to be at least 51 percent owned by sierra leoneans.
9 I will have prepared and presented to parliament on an expedited basis, legislation which will be caled the EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES ACT. This act will provide tax incentives to any corporation foreign or domestic which will create at least 2500 jobs over a period of at least 2 years in either the manufacturing or agricultural sector.
10. I will call a meeting of all local chiefs with the first one week of my tenure for the purpose of having general discussions on the land tenure laws and the changes that my Governbment will present to Parliament in accordance with the anti discrimination laws and constitutional mandates.
11. Finall in the first 100 days of my administration I would have addressed the nation at least 12 times in a weekly radio and television appearance and order every member of my cabinet to make themselves available to the press for interviews.
So what would you do?
Subject: Re: President John Mohamed Kamara
From: san san boy
To: All
Date Posted: 06:33:48 05/21/07 ()
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Alieu, I know very well that you well illustrated plan for Sierra Leone will be implemented by the APC. It is incumbent upon us to back the APC to win the elections in Auguse.
Alieu, can you make this plan available to the media in Sierra Leone?
Please, do not tread in the same way of those who fancy abuse and insult. You are far away worthy.
Stay bless Alieu.
Subject: Re: President John Mohamed Kamara
From: SP
To: All
Date Posted: 12:48:21 05/20/07 ()
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Alieu it would have been a brilliant question if it comes from somebody else. i have a bone to pick with that idiot alimamy, because of false accusation, and i was refering the answer directly to him.
your answer was enlightening. but since it is the same recycle politicians who are going to be in power comes next year, your response is of know use. anyway what i beleive is that this thieving generations will die before we see anything useful in our beloved country. stay blessed and HAPPY 50th BIRTHDAY!!!!!
Subject: Re: President John Mohamed Kamara
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 12:50:37 05/20/07 ()
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Even the devil must be given his due. The question was brilliant your personal tete a tete notwithstanding. BTW I will be willing to broker a peace between the two of you if you would like me to.
Brothers Always
Subject: Re: President John Mohamed Kamara
From: TIFF PAPA
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Date Posted: 12:49:50 05/20/07 ()
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thieving generation?Like TIFF PAPA the former APC minister. hahahahahahaha. The son of a thief.
Subject: Re: President John Mohamed Kamara
From: STUPID TIFF PAPA
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Date Posted: 14:29:55 05/20/07 ()
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Is the son of a thief himself a thief? Or is this guilty by association?
Subject: QUOTE OF THE DAY
From: Fan
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Date Posted: 09:44:45 05/19/07 ()
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"There is no reform institution in Yoni."
That does not mean that there WAS no reform institution in Yoni.
Your answer is irrelevant, because, as childish as John Leigh has become, he is not a child NOW.
Therefore, even if there is no reform school now, as you claim, that is completely irrelevant to the question whether John Leigh was institutionalized in a reform setting nearly 60 years ago for abusing his step-mother, as he freely told the world.
To help you understand your mistake, please recognize the difference between John Leigh being a child -- nearly SIXTY years ago, and John Leigh being childish -- which is what he is actually NOW.
Subject: Re: QUOTE OF THE DAY
From: Amadu Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:32:59 05/19/07 ()
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You hit the nail right on the head. More and more the people of thsi forum display a problem with understanding other people's postings.
Thank you for setting the record straign.
Subject: Re: QUOTE OF THE DAY
From: True
To: All
Date Posted: 12:42:14 05/19/07 ()
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"please recognize the difference between John Leigh being a child -- nearly SIXTY years ago, and John Leigh being childish -- which is what he is actually NOW."
So true.
Subject: SLPP-RELIES ON RIGGING THE ELECTIONS
From: MUSA KAMARA
To: All
Date Posted: 07:14:07 05/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: luna.hypair.net at 194.50.180.4
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Fellow Sierra-Leoneans,and Patriots of the beloved land,this is an issue not to be disdained.The evil sect by the name of slpp are pre-occupied in finding ways and means to rig the incoming elections,probably it is the last resort for them to hang on power.Surely,their plans will be dashed into the trash.They are quiet aware of their failures and shortcomings.
Subject: Re: SLPP-RELIES ON RIGGING THE ELECTIONS
From: Independent Man
To: All
Date Posted: 10:50:09 05/19/07 ()
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Message:
Why are you so idle?
Why do you waste your time making unsubstantiated crap? You are a loser!!! It is a damn shame that you are resorting to childish and idiotic claims just because your party have no chance of winning on August 11, 2007.
Since the SLPP came to power in 1996, Sierra Leone has conducted the following multi-party elections:
A presidential election
Parliamentary elections
Local elections
Chieftency elections
With the exception of certain people bitching about the eligibility of some in one or two chieftency elections, all the elections conducted under the SLPP have been free and fair. The opposition APC won several of the local elections, and the ruling party never interferred with the right of the opposition to take control whereever they won. Tell me Musa, when did the APC ever conduct free and fair elections in Sa. Lone???
Subject: Re: SLPP-RELIES ON RIGGING THE ELECTIONS
From: Patriot
To: All
Date Posted: 12:54:29 05/19/07 ()
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"Since the SLPP came to power in 1996, Sierra Leone has conducted the following multi-party elections:
A presidential election"
Which was rigged by the SLPP, as was the next presidential election in 2006.
Rather than calling MUSA KAMARA idle, you should be ashamed for putting your blind support of the corrupt SLPP above your support for your own country.
Subject: Re: SLPP-RELIES ON RIGGING THE ELECTIONS
From: Independent Man
To: All
Date Posted: 13:54:14 05/19/07 ()
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I can support who I want - Blindly or otherwise. That is my right, and I plan to exercise it.
You do not see me questionning your choice, do you? So why in God's name are you questionning mine?
The problem with people like you is that you are intolerant. I do not want to waste my time discussing democracy or free and fair elections with someone as intolerant as you.
Subject: Re: SLPP-RELIES ON RIGGING THE ELECTIONS
From: Patriot
To: All
Date Posted: 14:30:51 05/19/07 ()
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As usual, you have failed to understand what you read.
No one is questioning your right to do what you want. However, that right does not grant you immunity from an evaluation of the impact of your decision upon the perceived interest of our country in having patriotic citriens. That means citizens who would not blindly support a corrupt party just for the sake of their narow selfish interest.
To you, my exercising the right to review your chosen action in blindly supporting your party of choice at the detriment of our country's future may appear "intolerant." However, to sober people, your porous statement only confirms yet another element of your chronic debility -- an inability to understand what you write, not just what you read.
Subject: Re: SLPP-RELIES ON RIGGING THE ELECTIONS
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 15:16:28 05/19/07 ()
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You continue to show how intolerant and shallow you are. The use of the handle Patriot by you is downright dishonest. You are not patriotic at all. People like always turn out to be the selfish ones and the blind bitch ass party supporters.
Go sit down with your "non-chronic" debility,and while you are at it, lick your rear-end.
Subject: Re: SLPP-RELIES ON RIGGING THE ELECTIONS
From: BEHAVE YOURSELF
To: All
Date Posted: 15:26:17 05/19/07 ()
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There is no need to retrogress into your usual insults. Address the issue, rather than insulting people.
As you have been told repeatedly, rudeness is not a substitute for reason. Behave yourself: This is a forum for discussing issues -- not for insults.
Subject: Re: SLPP-RELIES ON RIGGING THE ELECTIONS
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 16:22:25 05/19/07 ()
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Why don't you go sit down and shut the hell up.
The clown calling himself Patriot started the insults, and I insulted him right back. Who the hell is the Morfor to tell people that they are not smart enough to know what is good for Sa Lone? People who think they are so superior intellectually always turn out to be the dumbest assoles around. They are mostly failures in life afraid of their shadow, and resort to calling others stupid just to cover their own stupidity.
When you people start respecting others for the chioces they make, you will not receive insults any more. As long as you continue to abuse those who do not see things your way, you will continue to be insulted.
Subject: Re: Describing..........................................WHO
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 12:55:01 05/20/07 ()
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People who think they are so superior intellectually always turn out to be the dumbest assoles around. They are mostly failures in life afraid of their shadow, and resort to calling others stupid just to cover their own stupidity.
Subject: Re: Describing..........................................WHO
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 00:50:04 05/21/07 ()
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Take a quick look in the mirror and you will get the answer.
ROTMAFLAO....
Subject: Re: Describing..........................................WHO
From: ANSWER
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Date Posted: 07:35:20 05/21/07 ()
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Must have been you standing behind the man
Subject: Re: Describing..........................................WHO
From: Answer
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Date Posted: 18:05:35 05/20/07 ()
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Himself, of course. Who else would he know so intimately?
Subject: Re: Describing..........................................WHO
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 00:51:13 05/21/07 ()
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Message:
Actually,
I was thinking of your OKOBO ........ (you know the rest!)
Subject: Re: Describing..........................................WHO
From: Wonders Never Cease
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Date Posted: 08:36:27 05/21/07 ()
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"I was thinking ....
Edmund Koker, you were thinking?
You mean you can think. Koker?
Subject: Re: SLPP-RELIES ON RIGGING THE ELECTIONS
From: BEHAVE YOURSELF
To: All
Date Posted: 19:11:03 05/19/07 ()
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At risk of repetition, let me advise you again that rudeness is not a substitute for reason in a debate.
Questioning the validity of your argument is not an insult to you -- it is called debating. That is what I see from Patriot's questioning of your basis for supporting a party that he contends (reasonably) has performed a disservice to the people of Salone.
If you have counter points, by all means present them. However, spewing insults like those you have been spewing, is not a proper debating tactic. It is a sign of ill manners.
Therefore, I again remind you that this is not a place for insults. It is a place where issues are discussed. If your forte is insults, I would suggest you go elsewhere where such rudeness is acceptable. Not here.
Subject: Re: SLPP-RELIES ON RIGGING THE ELECTIONS
From: Independent Man
To: All
Date Posted: 22:30:13 05/19/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Why don't you take your advise and shove it up yours!
There is no debate going on between me and the coward who calls himself/herself Patriot.
The bitch ass PMDC/APC bootlicker thinks he knows better than everyone else, and pretends to be Hollier than thou. Such individuals are usually the most useless, underperforming, underachieving and selfish scumb-bags of the earth. They talk big and have absolutely no substance to back it up. When you check their records, you find that they have done absolutely nothing for Sa Lone. Very often, such individuals might have participated in unscrupulous acts that drain the countries resources--- I mean participated in tiff-tiff business.
So MORFOR Coward, take your holier than thou attitude and shove it!!!
Subject: Re: SLPP-RELIES ON RIGGING THE ELECTIONS
From: Observer
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Date Posted: 09:01:03 05/20/07 ()
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Having followed your exchanges, it seems to me you are suffering from a case of an acute inferiority complex.
Just answer the issue, man. No one is interested in your inferiority complex-induced malicious rants about people you admit you dont't even know.
Plus, your rudeness is appalling. Take tgfthe man's advice and behave yourself. You are making an ass of yourself in public, in the unlikely case that yoiu care to know.
Subject: Re: SLPP-RELIES ON RIGGING THE ELECTIONS
From: Independent Man
To: All
Date Posted: 13:35:56 05/20/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Why don't you crawl back into the hole from whence you came and shut the hell up! While you are at it, take your medication.
You ill-formed Morfor
Subject: Re: SLPP-RELIES ON RIGGING THE ELECTIONS
From: Observer
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Date Posted: 18:04:07 05/20/07 ()
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Peopel like you give the truth to the saying:
You can take a man out of the bush, but you can't the bush out out of him.
Subject: Re: SLPP-RELIES ON RIGGING THE ELECTIONS
From: Independent Man
To: All
Date Posted: 20:17:48 05/20/07 ()
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Message:
You stated:
"Peopel like you give the truth to the saying:"
I see that self proclaimed Mr. Smart Ass cannot spell simple words correctly, and cannot even type. You must have just been introduced to the computer. Where have you been all this time????
Subject: Re: SLPP-RELIES ON RIGGING THE ELECTIONS
From: Observer
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Date Posted: 08:39:21 05/21/07 ()
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Smart people are not self-proclaimed, Sengbe.
You really should get a cure for your chronic disease -- your inability to understand anything you read.
Subject: Re: SLPP-RELIES ON RIGGING THE ELECTIONS
From: Concerned
To: All
Date Posted: 20:19:26 05/19/07 ()
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And who are you? The forum Police?
Subject: Re: SLPP-RELIES ON RIGGING THE ELECTIONS
From: His MAMA
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Date Posted: 12:57:08 05/20/07 ()
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And who are you? The forum Police?
NO HIS MAMA GOT THAN NOW CHILL YOUR WIRED ASS BOY(MAN)BOY
Subject: Re: SLPP-RELIES ON RIGGING THE ELECTIONS
From: concerned
To: All
Date Posted: 22:41:25 05/20/07 ()
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Message:
And you are the uncircumcised idiot.
You son- of - -----.
Subject: Re: SLPP-RELIES ON RIGGING THE ELECTIONS
From: BEHAVE YOURSEL
To: All
Date Posted: 08:37:28 05/21/07 ()
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Semgbe, behave yourself.
Subject: Re: HISTORY OF SL ELECTIONS
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 11:56:37 05/19/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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The record of the conduct of elections in SLeone is clear cut.
1. Under the APC, a number of independent aspirants would be arrested and detained untill the nomination dealine passes. At that time, most would be released.
In one particular egregious instance I am aware of, the Principal of Bumpeh Secondary, Mr. Garvas Labour, was pre-emptorily arrested as soon as he declared his intention to contest, brought to Freetown and was detained at PaDemba Road Prison for 77 days merely because he chose to run against the official APC One-Party candidate in BO Central.
After the general elections and on the 78th day, Mr. Labour was suddenly taken to Prez Stevens' office and ushered before him. Stevens told Mr. Labour never again to go against his monopoly One-Party's chosen candidate. He then admonished Mr. Labour that national politics was not for village school teachers. Labour was then released and told to immediately return to his village up-line.
2. In the elections conducted by APC, the results are usually 99.9% in their favor - all the time. With SLPP, others win every time. Just take the 2004 local government elections as an example.
SLPP candidates were badly flogged in the Western Area, winning only 4 out of 32 seats. SLPP promptly accepted the results and aided APC's accession to municipal power in the capital. No problem!
Another example. Siaka Stevens got his first big break on his way to the presidency by getting elected as Mayor of Freetown under the SLPP.
3. Also APC leaders tend to stay in power for years and years and years until the public gets fed-up.
Stevens, for example, was in office for over 17 peace years. Then he double-crossed those in the APC who gave him power and gave power insyead to his fellow tribesman so as to prolong hegemonistic tribalism.
As for Momoh, he had to be overthrown in order to bring back multiparty democracy.
APC-pampared Mr. Johnny Paul Disaster Koroma did not like multi-party democracy at all. He termed it 'Mendecracy'. He was a stand-in for the APC monopolists. He, his coupligans and the RUF had to be evicted by force by ECOMOG and the CDF.
The current SLPP president is stepping down after two terms with zero attempt to seek to amend the constitution to extend his incumbency. We must give him credit for such a stance. It is an excellent precedent.
4. I believe that Mr. Musa Kamara is crying wolf for no valid reason except, perhaps, for the sole reason to prepare APC tribalistic hegemonists and their beneficiaries of corruption, favoritism and nepotism of their impending doom; for electoral gloom is already circulating in the APC heartland.
Jamil's gentlemanly Peggy boy is not up to the task and APC's baggage is simply too heavy a burden for him alone to carry on his nice shoulders. Victor Foh does not and cannot inspire confidence in civilized society at all.
5. Like the 2002 elections, the 2007 elections will be free and fair according to - and up to - international standards.
The public will vote SLPP, including most of APC 30 percenters.
The 8 per-cent Tribal hegemonists, the beneficiaries of APC largesse and their descendants will most vote for Sahid Jamil's peggy-boy out of rote loyalty and/or hegemonistic tribal pride.
Leftover alphabet-soup foolumunkus and junior tribalists of the Philadelphia Cabal tributary will vote for their benevolent dictator, the King of Stupid.
If there is any trouble, it won't come from SLPP ranks. - Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: HISTORY OF SL ELECTIONS
From: FACT
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Date Posted: 13:16:28 05/19/07 ()
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Mr. Leigh, have you heard about he civil disobedience in the south of sierra leone? I am talking about Pujehun and Lymba, Bo district, where deputy speaker lavalie was recently molested. what's your take on this?
Subject: Re: HISTORY OF SL ELECTIONS
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 15:06:44 05/19/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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FACT:
It's not good news at all. Violence is terrible given the cultural background of our country: we have shown to be unable to properly manage violence according to the rules of civilization.
Deputy Speaker, Ms. Elizabeth Lavali is fighting for the SLPP symbol in constituency centered around Sumbuya. Its not easy at all for her but she is making progress. I understand that she has competition both from the Diaspora (Bannister) and locally as well.
Probably in that constituency may also be my old friend, Mr. Amidu Nallo of the Philadelphia Group, for whom I got bursted at the Bo Convention in 2002 (i.e. "Shut up, sit down and go back to America". - Prince Harding).
I am told that Nallo might have realized that he would not get the SLPP nomination this time around. So I was told that he has declared for the PMDC. I cannot confirm any of this but it does not appear to me that he is going to be re-elected. The anger at sitting MPs is just too much. People are suffering.
The SLPP rank and file is not happy at all. They are angry at certain leadership elements in the party but do not wish to split the party and thus give APC any chance to win. Thus, I expect many sitting SLPP MPs to decline to run or to be defeated for the party symbol as the award is now done honestly locally instead of allegedly corruptly from Freetown.
Thus unless the local SLPP Chapter's rank and file respects an MP's leadership in Freetown, that MP is most unlikely to get the party's symbol in the constituency he represented during the past 5 years. Some sitting MPs are thus dropping out, switching constituencies, switching parties or staging pitch battles.
In Pujehun, there are several tough competitive races but all the competition is intra-party not inter-party. Whether the violence in that district has anything to do with those races, I do not know but I will investigate and keep forumites informed.
Thanks for raising the issue. Appreciated. - JL
Subject: Re: HISTORY OF SL ELECTIONS
From: FACT
To: All
Date Posted: 15:32:50 05/19/07 ()
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Thanks. Very informative.
Subject: Re: SLPP-RELIES ON RIGGING THE ELECTIONS
From: Yapo Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 11:50:22 05/19/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
My friend, everybody knows that SLPP has already stuffed ballot boxes which they will exchange on August 11. Everybody knows that SLPP does nothing without cheating. But we are waiting for them.
Subject: Re: SLPP-RELIES ON RIGGING THE ELECTIONS
From: Independent Man
To: All
Date Posted: 16:24:52 05/19/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Hi Yapo,
Nice to see you are still around. At least you are sticking to using the same handle for a change....
Yap Yap Yap Yapo.....Ypo po po po po yapo
Subject: RE: Village burned down in Sierra Leone
From: musa Kalawa
To: All
Date Posted: 02:27:00 05/19/07 ()
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Message:
There are growing concerns following the burning down of a village in the south of the country.
It's the latest in what seems to be a spate of attacks in the region prompting fears in some circles that it's the start of politically motivated violence.
Our Freetown reporter, Umaru Fofana has more details.
Subject: Re: RE: Village burned down in Sierra Leone
From: Independent Man
To: All
Date Posted: 14:09:18 05/19/07 ()
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After all what we went through during the war, it is painful to see that there are still people among us who will resort to violence when they do not get their way. The war did not teach these people anything.
It is very likely that low-level PMDC supporters and possibly APC sympathizers are carrying these attacks, or they are paying people to do it. These used to be APC tactics in the past, and Charles Margai has repeatedly preached violence if things do not go his way!
What is ironic, is that the people who are accusing SLPP of intimidation and potential vote-rigging are the very ones engaged in such despicable actions. What a damn shame. Are these the people you want to lead you? What you see now is just the tip of the iceberg. Should they win, they will be more corrupt than the ones they are accusing of corruption, and will drive a wedge between different tribes and regions in that country. Be careful what you wish for----you might just get it and more!!!!!
Subject: PMDC disillusion in the Kambia District
From: PIKIN MARGAI DON CRASE
To: All
Date Posted: 18:06:38 05/18/07 ()
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Message:
PMDC disillusion in the Kambia District
The Peoples Movement for Democratic Change leader, Charles Francis Margai, made a visit to the Kambia District; but only few people turned out to welcome him, report said. The ruling SLPP and the APC are said to have made significant inroads in the district, leaving the PMDC no room for maneuverings. Statements which were allegedly made by Charles Margai are now militating against him. The Chiefs are against Margai because of negative statements he made about them.
Subject: Re: PMDC disillusion in the Kambia District
From: Kambo
To: All
Date Posted: 20:11:06 05/18/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
His arrogance is hunting him.
Subject: Re: PMDC disillusion in the Kambia District
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 09:56:34 05/19/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Message:
People are looking for problem solvers. Mumbolo-tombolo-dumbolo thinks people seek a new benevolent king - him alone.
His Majesty's remaining unhappy dejected loyalists should please understand that the last thing Sierra Leoneans need now-a-days is some arrogant flunkey dunce as a double-crossing dictator who has a zero problem-solving background - no matter how full his mouth is with Latin and yap-yap talk. - JL
Subject: CUSS & CHEERS IN BO
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 16:55:11 05/18/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Message:
Yesterday, Thursday May 17, the PMDC presidential ticket was in Bo to do their own road show. Both Mr. Margai and Dr. Jalloh spoke at Bo Teachers College, now the University of SL, Bo Campus. Solomon Berewa & Tejan Kabbah were both cussed very well during various speeches, I was told earlier today. I was also told, though, that Dr. Jalloh did not do any cussing. I am not sure about the other fellow.
Then there was The March from Bo Teachers to PMDC’s burglar-proof offices. It was pathetic. Certainly, it was not a Million Man March.
The PMDC MATCH was more like A THOUSAND MAN MARCH of mostly unsupervised small boys, some obviously school dropouts and many wild and raray looking in fahlahmahkahtah colors – your typical uninfluential, low grade flunkey-donkey noisemakers, full of low grade san-san, loud cuss, rudeness and aimless jaga-jaga noise.
When the fed-up san-san cuss crowd got to 23 Fenton Road in downtown Bo – SLPP’S Southern Headquarters – they stopped and started hauling insults at the building, at which juncture the building inhabitants all moved to the front balcony to find out what was going on.
It was PMDC ragamuffins yelling and cussing for their supper! Each time the marchers yelled cusses, SLPPers at the balcony cheered for them and continued cheering until they fed-up ones peacefully left. There was no violence at all.
The total crowd was estimated for me as not even enough to fill half the Voters Roll of a single constituency in Bo Town!
A popular refrain was ‘shame on you all. Tejan Kabbah nor Berewa never attended Chief Hinga Norman’s funeral’, etc., etc. Others were unprintable.
These fellows must be desperados lying about Sam Norman's funeral.
I spent a lot of time with the Norman family during the funeral preparation time. Our former VP, Dr. Joe Demby, was in charge of the funeral arrangements. We met at the official residence of Mrs. Mamie Norman.
An announcement authorized by the Norman family was read over the radio several times and published in the print media prior to the funeral that no government officials (and politics) were welcomed at the funeral ceremonies. So, none attended and every effort was made to keep out politics from the ceremonies.
SLPP members who are friends of the Norman family attended as individuals.
I remember learning of PMDC hopes at the time: Norman’s death they viewed as a golden opportunity to milk for their political gain. Instead of genuinely sympathizing with the family, some people were looking for their own benefits even at a time of deep bereavement.
And they were at it again in Bo yesterday at 23 Fenton Road, near the burglar-proof cages of trembling foolumunku flunkies. In the meantime, the defections to the SLPP continue at pace with VP Berewa personally welcoming the returnees, deeply disappointment with their former fahlahmahkahtah, flunkey, dropout, one-manic, dynastic, double-crossing, dombolo leadership. - JL
Subject: Re: CUSS & CHEERS IN BO
From: LOW GRADE SAN SAN
To: All
Date Posted: 09:27:32 05/19/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
"So, none attended and every effort was made to keep out politics from the ceremonies"
Lie lie lie ! Leigh LAIR ! Scruffy, your slpp Hon. Ansu Kai Kai was frog marched of the Chiefs house when he went there to shed the same crocodile tears that you shed for our former deputy Mayor. Kabba, the man you bribed for a job offered money and a cow to the family. But was rejected and sent packing. Berewa the man you called dishonest and corrupt but now unashamedly licking his PENDA/sore foot was told by the family not to bother to show up.You party the slpp wanted to hijack the Chiefs fenural but they were all rejected.
Snuffy, no one beleive you. Because you are the same old fool with the red snuff eating teeth who told us that you have been reliable informed by your "baiger baiger for chop money informant" in Freetown that chief was in a five star hotel in Senegal. Only for the Norma family to come out and reject you by telling the whole world that chief was in fact kept in the worst prison in Africa.
As usual you sneaked through the crowd again to attend the funeral. With all your "beller beller" to the family you were not even allowed to say a single ward at the funeral, unlike Mr. Moijueh Kai Kai who was asked to pay his respect with a tribute to the late chief. But who will take notice of a baseless sad old fool like you in a funeral anyway? An unelectable rude corrupt politician who wanted to lead the slpp but was rejected by the entire membership. An unelectable reject who asked the chief to join him in the formation of your so called THIRD FORCE joke but was rejected by the Chief. A snuff pender licking, unelectable sad old fool who later wanted to lead the PMDC but was again rejected. The homeless "SHALAT" who had no choice but to licke his vomit in the REFORM WING of a party that he once aspired to lead. What a sad case.
No wonder you are now called "JOHN THE DIAPER" the greatest CREEP and the oldest REJECT in the REFORM WING of the SNUFF LICKING PEOPLES PRISON (SLPP) Christendom
Subject: Re: CUSS & CHEERS IN BO
From: Knice
To: All
Date Posted: 08:45:16 05/19/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Ambassador Leigh, first let me commend you for your recent eloquent and fact-filled comments in Cocorioko regarding APC mismanagement of everything. Let me just add that wretched impoverishment is only one legacy of those foolhardy years. Even more pernicious legacies of those APC days are total destruction of vital national institutions which will take years to rebuild; total loss of confidence by Sierra Leoneans at large; and the culture of dependence that ensued.
Subject: Re: CUSS & CHEERS IN BO
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 12:15:31 05/19/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Mr. Knice:
Thank you very much.
The degradation which APC inflicted upon our country will take years and years of painstaking appropriate work to correct. That is the key reason why many people like me prefer to swallow the bitter pill of Makeni than attempt to split the party and allow the APC disaster to return only to take-off where it had left-off in 1992.
I am one of those who truly believe that but for the disastrous intervention of the APC years, our country would today be one of the most flourishing places in the world.
Too bad Papa Margai caused the SLPP slpit in 1966 by his arrogant benevolent dictatorship of awarding the party symbol to cronies in total double-cross of the party's loyal rank and file in Moyamba, Bo and Kenema Districts.
I am glad that the present retrogades who are hell-bent on exploiting Makeni for private benefit are going nowhere but down. Thanks again. - JL
Subject: Re: CUSS & CHEERS IN BO
From: Yaya Fanusie
To: All
Date Posted: 20:37:20 05/19/07 ()
Email Address: Saigobe@lanset.com
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John,
Knice wrote an historical speculation about political change in Sierra Leone and you jumped in as if you were going to make some intelligent contribution but it was a disguised attact on Charles Margai. Your only issue is Margai everything else you write is just a clever and veiled slash and burn CM.
Yaya Fanusie
PS: I met Knice at the NOSLINA EVENT few weeks ago: Knice is an extremely dignified individual. Civil and articulate.
He demonstrated a geniune concern for Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: CUSS & CHEERS IN BO
From: Knice
To: All
Date Posted: 05:52:17 05/22/07 ()
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Yayah, thanks for the kind words. I felt the same about you and it was really a pleasure to meet you. The lesson here is that in person we are generally much better than weappear on this forum.
Subject: Re: CUSS & CHEERS IN BO
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 11:50:00 05/20/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dr. Fanusie:
I agree with you. Knice's piece was good but I wrote only concur and support him. For your info, there was zero reference to your CM.
I actually wrote about the impact of Sir Albert's arrogant ways that produced a big split in '66 that gave us coups, APC and then a most catastrophic war from which we are still reeling. The SLPP rank and file is absolutely adamant against another split that would let APC KDDAs and Ekutays in power once again.
However, you are free to read a posting as you see fit.
I am glad you think well of Knice. I keep telling you and others that most real national talents are inside the SLPP and since the SLPP is a collegial organization rather than one-manic-dynastic dombolo, Knice will rise to the top.
Please compare Knice's writings to those of PMDC's low grade san san foolumunku dunces and mr. wan-grain lehtah-to-the-editor and his wan-grain imported can of soft drink which he glorifies as the instantaneous solution to all problems Sierra Leonean.
Man, I was expecting a Waraba smacker right on the chin or even a devastated upper-cut. Instead, I got a poppy purr. What's the matter? Are the side effects of viagra causing you problems?
To help regain your usual vigor, forget about youg ladies. Instead, may I suggest that you imagine what it was like in Bo last week for the fed-up, PMDC thousand-man marchers loudly cussing with their beat-pan, jagah-jagah nonsensical noisemaking - but they received cheers nevertheless!
Such thoughts might inspire you to get back into your usual top fighting condition. - JL
Subject: Re: CUSS & CHEERS IN BO
From: A.B.Sankoh
To: All
Date Posted: 17:24:17 05/18/07 ()
Email Address:
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The SLPP probably need to relocate their headquaters to the North where there are more civilised people. Don't you agree with me John?
Subject: Re: CUSS & CHEERS IN BO
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 15:50:52 05/22/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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The North has many nice and spacious spots but the SLPP headquarters will remain in the nation's capital where there are more amenities. Thank you. - JL
Subject: test
From: test
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Date Posted: 16:24:37 05/18/07 ()
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Subject: What determines a mental state, cruelty vs goodness?
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 16:14:07 05/18/07 ()
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I challenge readers to take this test.
Just for medical reasons especially from Psychologists point of view.
The Rule of Law!
Subject: Re: What determines a mental state, cruelty vs goodness?
From: concerned
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Date Posted: 20:12:01 05/18/07 ()
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Bambay. Longtime. Where have you been?
Subject: Re: What determines a mental state, cruelty vs goodness?
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 16:19:26 05/21/07 ()
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Greetings my brothers and sisters. Concerned, thanks for asking. I have been preoccupied with work and a move to return back to college. This option became prime most to contributing here on a daily bases. I am not insinuating that my participation here is less in significance but in terms of personal development, it was and is worthwhile to involve in the former, which in the long-run will put me on the right path to bolstering the realization and actualizing the dreams I have for my country, a civic duty I am oblarged to honor (honour) and the world at large. This is the reason for the long silence.
Once again, thank you for asking.
Subject: John Leigh floored Yaya Fanusie with a left Hook Punch.
From: Waraba
To: All
Date Posted: 14:09:30 05/18/07 ()
Email Address: Saigobe@lanset.com
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Message:
Forumites:
Did you notice that Yaya Fanusie been absent from the forum. I just found out that he was in hospital recovering from a sharp left hook punch delivered by John Leigh. I was informed that Yaya Fanusie kept muttering that unlike the SLPP AND Berewa, John certainly has a powerful left hand.
Waraba
Subject: Re: John Leigh floored Yaya Fanusie with a left Hook Punch.
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 15:29:31 05/18/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahhoo.com
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Waraba:
Your sense of humor is unbeatable.
At any rate, my apologies that you were floored. That was not my intention at all and I am glad you are now ok and ready to fight again.
When you see the next opportunity, please throw your own deadly punch - maybe, a devastating smacker right on the chin or an uppercut. But please be assured when I stagger back up on to my feet, we'll continue the bout. Don't forget, July 11 is fast approaching for the commencement of your official anti-SLPP campaign. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: John Leigh floored Yaya Fanusie with a left Hook Punch.
From: Kalokoh
To: All
Date Posted: 16:02:04 05/18/07 ()
Email Address:
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This is what some of us want to see here.You just cant be here getting at each others throats.Good sense of humor makes a big difference.Lets don't get carried away by our different political views.
Your Sierra Leone's People Party looks like Sierra Leone's Peeping Party...Not active...The motherland needs a change for the betterment of tomorrow's generation but Wos party wae go take Mama Salone em pekin dem bifoe? Dem all nar di same.Pass U hate wan.
Love you all
Kal
Subject: Re: John Leigh floored Yaya Fanusie with a left Hook Punch.
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 12:35:45 05/19/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Kal:
You are quite right: humor, a peaceful give and take, quite is appropos. When peace and humor are the routine among our people coups, rape, killings, cut-hand, imprisonments and executions, etc. for political reasons would be no more.
But where politics is strictly life or death, wealth or poverty, freedom or imprisonment, hegemony or servitude for some desperados, we can't remain silent. We must thus be vigilant to keep desperados from power and strive to correctly educate them.
And let's face it, some of our people are dense, stubborn and primitive. Thus, we must be extremely patient to help them.
Last but not least, we must thank Waraba for his unbeatable sense of humor in spite his frequent willingness to pick a fight. You may have noticed, however, that he does not waste his time with foolumunkus. He cuts them off quickly. Thanks. - JL
Subject: Re: John Leigh floored Yaya Fanusie with a left Hook Punch.
From: Handsfree
To: All
Date Posted: 14:48:29 05/18/07 ()
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"John certainly has a powerful left hand."
You mean JL has a hand? An actual hand?
Then, tell me, why does he write rubbish like he can't control his writing?
Subject: Re: John Leigh floored Yaya Fanusie with a left Hook Punch.
From: Outpatient
To: All
Date Posted: 16:55:43 05/18/07 ()
Email Address:
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"An actual hand?"
Clean up your own backyard first.
Subject: Re: John Leigh floored Yaya Fanusie with a left Hook Punch.
From: Yaya Fanusie
To: All
Date Posted: 16:13:06 05/18/07 ()
Email Address: Saigobe@lanset.com
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Message:
Handsfree:
Because he is distracted by YOUR UGLY ATTITUDE.
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: Re: John Leigh floored Yaya Fanusie with a left Hook Punch.
From: Handsfree
To: All
Date Posted: 12:39:49 05/19/07 ()
Email Address:
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""Because he is distracted by YOUR UGLY ATTITUDE."
Yaya,
Then he must have been looking in his mirror.
Subject: Re: John Leigh floored Yaya Fanusie with a left Hook Punch.
From: Handsfree
To: All
Date Posted: 16:14:19 05/18/07 ()
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"Because he is distracted by YOUR UGLY ATTITUDE."
Yaya,
Then he must have been looking in his mirror.
Subject: SLPP GOVT. IS THE MOST CORRUPT IN THE HISTORY OF SA. LEONE
From: For ITK the SLPP Apologist
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Date Posted: 13:26:58 05/18/07 ()
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WEST REGION NEWS
AI denounces official corruption in Sierra Leone
FREETOWN, May 15 -- Human rights group, Amnesty International (AI), has condemned the high level official corruption in Sierra Leone.
In its latest Country Report on Human Rights Practices, the group said corruption was rampant in the executive legislative and judicial branches of Sierra Leone's government, adding that poor salaries and lack of accountability had exacerbated the vice.
It noted that the country's Anti-corruption Commission set up in July 2000 had only charged to court, 10% of the 560 cases it investigated and of the 54 cases referred to court, only 29 resulted in convictions.
According to the report, six principal witnesses in a Sierra Leone Ports Authority corruption case failed to testify because they had left the country reportedly "because they were either intimated or bribed to do so."
It described the case as the only corruption case involving high-level officials that went to the court. - PANA
Subject: Re: SLPP GOVT. IS THE MOST CORRUPT IN THE HISTORY OF SA. LEONE
From: marie
To: All
Date Posted: 16:29:04 05/22/07 ()
Email Address: marionn4u@yahoo.com
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Message:
please can someone tell me why victor momoh foe refused signing the voucher with his fingers meant for workers salary when he was permanent secretary but instead signed with the cap of his dick(penis). the voucher gate scandal. victor momoh foe and the rest.
Subject: Re: SLPP GOVT. IS THE MOST CORRUPT IN THE HISTORY OF SA. LEONE
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 13:35:52 05/19/07 ()
Email Address: ishmael.taylorkamara@kattenlaw.com
Entered From: at 38.117.238.82
Message:
Bra:
E nor do for gloat over this re-posting and re-configuration of this same niusance of a story. It not only becomes more stale with each new rendition, the twists and turns just show how undisciplined the press can be when it comes to fact checking.
PANA ought to know better. West Region News (whomever they are), before reporting on matters such as this, might want to learn that the legislature is not a branch of the Sierra Leone government. While it can be considered a branch of government, neither Partliament nor the judiciary is "part of "the government" nor, if separation of powers means anything can they be controlled by "the government". That's what checks and balances are all about.
As I have told you numerous times, corruption does exist in Sierra Leone-- no one is arguing that point; unfortunately, as it does in Kenya and Guinea and Malawi, corruption affects not only "the government" and the branches of government,it permeates society. It is not solely an "official" or "high level" problem as AI seems to have described it (I have not seen its report and thus cannot comment on it until it becomes public).
We've been down this road before, and it is exasperating as I feel like I am repeating myself. But for the record (and hopefully closure), where I am having a problem with your comments (apart from the perverse satisfaction you seem to derive from painting everthing SLPP as corrupt)is that you still have failed to substantiate (the yet unseen AI report notwithstanding) your claims that Kabbah and Berewa are corrupt and that the SLPP party and government are notoriously corrupt.
It is obvious why you have not answered my challenge to provide the page and line citations to all the donor reports that you have claimed back your assertions. Trust me, I have seen all the statements on corruption in Sierra Leone by donors and development partners-- IMF/World Bank; DFID; UN; and EU. They do not offer you the cover you claim. So, I ask you once again, show me the evidence you have right here and now, and I will rip it all apart. Otherwise, what's the point of this.
Until then, happy gloating!
Subject: Re: SLPP GOVT. IS THE MOST CORRUPT IN THE HISTORY OF SA. LEONE
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 13:45:06 05/18/07 ()
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After presidential & cabinet terms are over, immunity from prosecution for crimes committed whilst in office will also cease.
That could set an example.
Has that still unopened envelope which contains an indictment for the Special Court, been abandoned?
Fortunately or unfortunately the fallout from the case against Charles Taylor which starts on June 4 will inevitably hit Sierra Leone, and impact on the elections……..
Subject: Re: SLPP GOVT. IS THE MOST CORRUPT IN THE HISTORY OF SA. LEONE
From: special delivery
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Date Posted: 14:15:29 05/18/07 ()
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Bra Cornie, Kabbah will find out too late, via special delivery of his indictment from the special court, what Taylor found out too late -- that the promise of immunity once the culprit leaves office is not worth tha paper it is written on.
All tem for tiffman, one day for ...
Subject: Re: SLPP GOVT. IS THE MOST CORRUPT IN THE HISTORY OF SA. LEONE
From: voucher gate scandal
To: All
Date Posted: 16:33:19 05/22/07 ()
Email Address: marionn4u@yahoo.com
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Message:
victor momoh foe signed voucher with his penis says a close confidant
Subject: CRY FREETOWN PART1 OF 20
From: FODAY MANSARAY
To: All
Date Posted: 12:14:28 05/18/07 ()
Email Address: FMANSARAY@AOL.COM
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Message:
CRY FREETOWN ; YOU DESERVE BETTER THAN SOLOMON BEREWA.
Remember, January 6th 1999, This is a lesson no Sierra Leone should forget .There is nothing wrong to forgive anyone that trespasses against us as the Bible says. But that does not mean we should reward Berewa and SLPP for not standing up and defending Sierra Leone when she needed help the most . Most of you on can remember seeing on CNN vultures feasting on human beings, dead bodies pilling-up at Cotton Tree and kids with machine guns running around the city like the movie "New Jack city'.
My fellow Sierra Leoneans, I mean , Mende, Temne,kroos, Fulas, Suss ,SLPP ,PDP ,NDP, PMDC and the list goes on. Lets think for a moment. How many people were amputated? How many women were raped? How many children were forced to become men ?.Fellow Sierra Leoneans ,this is not just making the kamajor leader and Former Deputy Defense Minister (may his soul rest peace) a scapegoat for crimes against huminity but please send a message on ELECTION DAY that tyranny,has no place in modern society and voting for SLPP is awarding them for not upholding the rule of law and defending her people who needed that most on those fateful days of the RUF invasion of Freetown. .
Fellow Sierra Leoneans .Your only revenge is to vote the SLPP out of power on Elections day .Failing to do that will simply mean we, the Democratic Custodians of the next generation, have failed to defend those who lost their lives and I am sure you will want history to remember that you stood up for the right thing for your country and not partisan politics or tribalism which is a theme of the past.
May the almighty have Mercy on the Souls of all those who lost there lives on that faithful day and continue to blessed all those who fought to restore Genuine peace, freedom and Justice for our beloved sierra Leone.
Foday Mansaray
Concerned Sierra Leonean
Subject: Re: CRY FREETOWN PART1 OF 20
From: Knice
To: All
Date Posted: 08:33:12 05/19/07 ()
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Message:
I too saw the events of January 6, 1999 on CNN. I cried. This however is where we part company. The RUF, the AFRC, and the chaos that engulfed Sierra Leone did not sprout from a vacuum. For over 20 years the country was immersed in an APC party only state dictatorship, and everything went down hill. The army was severly compromised. The treasury was empty. The schools were that only in name. The agricultural economy was destroyed by corruption in the SLPMB and dismantling of the railroad. And APC honchos took first dibs to diamond resources. Amidst all this people were severely punished, and even executed for saying anything in opposition to so-called government policy.
Given these circumstances, chaos was inevitable and when it came the army which by then was a wing of the APC party was not ready. You cannot blame Berewa or the SLPP for that. I wish there was a more credible alternative to the SLPP than the APC who have not lost their anti-democratic stripes. All things considered the APC remains a far greater risk than the SLPP.
Subject: Re: CRY FREETOWN PART1 OF 20
From: Observer
To: All
Date Posted: 09:02:11 05/20/07 ()
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It is sad when some of you who claim to be dignified are distorting the facts just because your cultural background is tied with a political party that has inflicted massive suffering in a place we all called home. Why do you who claim to have walked through the corridor of a University are still being dishonest and lack any patriotic fervour to change the status quo in your Country. As I have said, over and over posterity will hold you all responsible for distorting the facts.
Where were you when SLPP transplants in the APC spoiled and sabotaged Sierra Leone. Where were you when Francis Minah, and Jusu Sheriff opted fro the IMF whilst Stevens was looking foe another alternative.
Where were you knice, when politicians from the South East sat at the Mines, Finance, Internal Affairs, Transportation Ministries.
Would you give room for fair analysis?
We know that some of you want tyo return home to become Ministers but, it will be good if there is honesty in your motive.
There is no dilligence in supporting a political party based on tribal ties. Some of you need to put Sierra Leone above any political party.
Subject: Re: CRY FREETOWN PART1 OF 20
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 15:28:23 05/19/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Message:
Mr. Knice:
As a prelude to the January 6, 1996 mayhem, two-thirds of the SL Army revolted and/or joined the Johnny Paul led-revolt against our elected government, saying they don't want what they called Mendecracy (i.e. multiparty elections). They said they wanted peace.
For your information, Johnny Paul was a Form Three St. Edwards Secondary School dropout from Momoh's tribe and hometown (Binkolo, Bombali District) that APC favoristically and nepotistically awarded a military scholarship to go study military tactics in England. He was just one among many deliberately packed inside the SL military and police from the APC heartland in the hope that those people will used those forces to protect the APC one-party regime in case of any popular insurrection.
Those low-quality favored boys constituted the leadership of the two-thirds of our military under the APC and which was automatically inherited by the first multiparty elected government and parliament. It was this APC military-packed leadership of the two-thirds that established the AFRC junta and it was among them that gave us the notorious sobels (“soldiers by day and rebels at night) under the NPRC earlier on.
The AFRC'S idea of peace was to form an alliance with the blood-thirsty RUF to systematically kill, rape, beat, maim and jail their opponents and burn, steal and confiscate the properties of ordinary people across our land over 11 years. They even stole from their own kind and took away the wives of their own relatives and colleagues. They were totally mean-spirited.
After the coupligans were evicted by ECOMOG/CDF in February 1998, they retreated to the diamond mines. There, they used brutal forced labor to mine diamonds, forcing san-san boys, school children, teachers, farmers, police men, traders, legitimate miners and women to mine diamonds around the clock until many of their victims dropped dead from over-work and no food.
Foday Sankoh systematically sold the forced-labor mined diamonds through a renegade Senegalese soldier, Gen Ibrahim Bah, to Charles Taylor at a huge discount and used the proceeds to buy large quantities of arms and war supplies from merchants of death through Charles Taylor, across the globe. NPFL soldiers then transported the purchased weapons and supplies to Sierra Leone.
Following my frequent appearances on CNN, BBC radio & TV, ITV, Nigerian, South African TV, VOA, US TV & radio, etc., and in numerous speeches, briefings, Congressional conversations and press conferences in several states across America, the US Deputy Secretary of State called me to inform the SL Embassy in early 2000 exactly what I have been saying publicly since mid-1997 and to provide exact details, viz: the violence in SLeone was (i) a war of plunder (ii) the coupligans and the RUF are genocidal killers and (iii) that in 1999 alone Charles Taylor exported in excess of six million carats of diamond gemstones to Europe.
Again, part of that money was used to buy weapons which Taylor then sold and transported at huge mark-ups to the AFRC/RUF criminals. A further part of those funds were used to provide diplomatic support for Liberia and the RUF against the elected government with the balance used for Taylor’s security in Liberia and for his self-enrichment.
And these were the criminals that entered Freetown in early January 1999 to free (i) AFRC coup collaborator ex-President Joseph Momoh, (ii) tried and convicted coupligans and coupligans awaiting trial (iii) several RUF monsters caught by the CDF and ECOMOG in Freetown and finally (iv) to create the very terrible conditions that Mr. FODAY MANSARAY described in his posting.
I have said this before and I say it again today: President Tejan Kabbah and his key lieutenants, Solomon Berewa and James Jonah, did the most correct thing they could have done at the time and under the circumstances: they successfully placed themselves beyond harm's way and successfully counter-attached and thus won the peace for us all.
The end-game was (i) the Lome end-of-war Accords, (ii) a big ($2.8 billion) UN Chapter VII Peace-keeping Mission in SLeone, (iii) the demise of the RUF, (iv) the death of Sankoh, (v) the prosecution of alleged war criminals; execution of Sam Bockarie and family together with the flight of Johnny Paul to parts unknown, (vii) the removal and arrest of Charles Taylor, (viii) a flourishing peace in Sierra Leone with multiparty democracy, (ix) the return of the international community previously expelled by the APC and (x) last but not least, the 2007 elections.
Where was the present APC (and PMDC) leadership during this long period of trial and tribulations for the people of Sierra Leone?
Did they keep silent in the hope that the junta of Johnny Paul Disaster Koroma would prevail so that the APC would eventually resume power to continue their hegemonistic tribalism of marginalization, poverty spreading, weekend frolicking; favoritism, nepotism and merciless corruption, the zero maintenance of public assets together with the general degradation of society?
VP Berewa was with President Kabbah and Dr. Jonah. But where was Mr. Ernest Koroma, the present APC leader throughout all this period and what was he doing to help?
I have met Mr. Koroma and I am sorry that his mentor, Mr. Sahid Jamil, was killed by pretend-RUF thugs. Mr. Koroma is very gentlemanly, nice and quite likeable but without more he is not going to win the popular vote. I do not see the requisite intellectual vigor in him. Besides, he is surrounded by KDDA marginalizers and Ekutay poverty spreaders, frolickers and a whole bunch of people with dubious backgrounds and incapacities. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: CRY FREETOWN PART1 OF 20
From: FODAY MANSARAY
To: All
Date Posted: 20:32:48 05/20/07 ()
Email Address: FMANSARAY@AOL.COM
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Message:
very pleased with your attempt to clarify a difficult period in history of our country.Rest assured i will
elaborate on the whereabout of both his excellencies
and chief Norma.may his soul rest in peace.
Subject: Re: CRY FREETOWN PART1 OF 20
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 11:14:38 05/21/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Message:
Dear Mr. FODAY MANSARAY:
After you've elaborated "on the whereabout of both his excellencies and Chief Norman", I would very much appreciate it if you would address my concerns that are clearly stated in the same posting; i.e.:
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".......Where was the present APC (and PMDC) leadership during this long period of trial and tribulations for the people of Sierra Leone?
"Did they keep silent in the hope that the junta of Johnny Paul Disaster Koroma would prevail so that the APC would eventually resume power to continue their hegemonistic tribalism of marginalization, poverty spreading, weekend frolicking; favoritism, nepotism and merciless corruption, the zero maintenance of public assets together with the general degradation of society?
"VP Berewa was with President Kabbah and Dr. Jonah. But where was Mr. Ernest Koroma, the present APC leader throughout all this period and what was he doing to help?"
======================================================================================
Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: CRY FREETOWN PART 1 OF 20
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
To: All
Date Posted: 11:21:10 05/19/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
"For over 20 years the country was immersed in an APC party only state dictatorship, and everything went down hill. The army was severly compromised. The treasury was empty. The schools were that only in name. The agricultural economy was destroyed by corruption in the SLPMB and dismantling of the railroad. And APC honchos took first dibs to diamond resources. Amidst all this people were severely punished, and even executed for saying anything in opposition to so-called government policy."
Knice:
What you failed to mention is the fact that it was SLPP leaders -- Salia Jusu-Sheriff, and later, Francis Minnah -- who were both Ministers of Finance and Vice president in what you disingenuously referred to as the "APC party only state dictatorship."
The fact -- and one that you conveniently failed to mention in your consequently dubious quest to exclude the SLPP from blame for the destruction of SLs economy -- is that the APC ruled SL for only 10 years: from 1968 to 1978.
Therefore -- even though you also conveniently failed to mention it -- the SL government was comprised of the leaders of both the SLPP and APC parties from 1978 to 1992.
Accordingly, it is completely false to state, as you did, that it was the APC that alone ruined Salone. The fact is that it was both the SLPP and the APC governments that ruined our country.
Indeed, the single action most responsible for the destruction of Sierra Leone's economy -- the devaluation of our once strong currency -- was implemented in 19978 by the leader of the SLPP, Salia Jusu-Sheriff, when he was minister of finance in the APC-SLPP government.
It is baffling, therefore, that you insist on blaming the APC alone for actions that were demonstrably taken by BOTH the SLPP and the APC leaders. Just as baffling is your inistence on blaming the APC government alone for the corruption at SLPMB. The fact -- one which you also conveniently failed to mention -- is that both the SLPP and the APC were to blame for corruption in SLPMB, and in many other government parastatals and ministries.
Indeed, it was a SLPP government which was found by the Beoku Bette Commission of Enquiry to have perpetrated massive corruption at SLPMB, involving SLPP Ministers, during the late 1960s.
Significantly, one of those culprits who was banned from ever holding public office in SL, Ahmad Tejan Kabbah, nevertheless went on to become the SLPP president during the last ten years of catasriophic destruction of the standards of living of milions of S/Leoneans.
Why, then, would you fail to mention those facts? Why would you, instead, seek to blame only the APC government when the facts show that if anything, it is the SLPP leaders who have devastated SL more than the APC's leaders?
Subject: Re: CRY FREETOWN PART 1 OF 20
From: FACT
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Date Posted: 13:27:24 05/19/07 ()
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Yes, you are right. That's the same thing I told John Leigh a couple of days ago: APC and SLPP destroyed Sierra Leone. The same people recycling themselves and rubbibg each other's back. They even have paramilitary wings. APC(SSD)and SLPP (Kamajors).
Subject: Re: CRY FREETOWN PART 1 OF 20
From: FODAY MANSARAY
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Date Posted: 18:36:23 05/19/07 ()
Email Address: FMANSARAY@AOL.COM
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I WILL DEFER ON THE ROLE OF THE SSD AND THE KAMAJOR.YON
KNOW HOW MUCH CASUALTY WAS INFLICTED ON SIERRA LEONE IN THE NAME OF POWER AND GLORY.
THE SSD DOMINATED AND PROTECTED AN INSTITUTION OF THE PRESIDENCY WHILE THE KAMAJOR CROSSED THE LINE AND FORMED AN ALLIANCE WITH REBEL FACTTIONS TO PARTICIPATE TO SABOTAGE THE VERY INSITUTION THEY WERE EMPLOYED TO PROTECT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
CASE IN POINT, JAN.6TH 1999 WERE WAS KABBA AND WERE WAS HINGA NORMAN.?THE KAMAJOR HAD THE INTENTION OF TAKING-OVER THE GOVERNMENT.THIS IS NOT JUST PROSECUTING THE KAMAJOR LEADER FOR CRIMES AGAINST INNOCIENT PEOPLE, BUT HIS ROLE TO OVER-RUN THE POWERS TO BE.
THEY WERE READY TO DESTROY HIM AT ALL COST.THE KAMAJOR WAS AN INSITUTION BY ITSELF WHILST THE SSD PROTECTED AN INSITUTION THAT WAS WHY THE ISSUE OF DO-BO-WU-SU WAS CONTAINED THOSE DAYS.THE KAMAJOR LEADER IS GONE(MAY HIS SOUL REST IN PEACE) THE FACT REMAINS,SIERRA LEONE WILL CONTINUE TO PAY FOR THESE SELFISH POLITICIANS YEARS TO COME.
Subject: Re: CRY FREETOWN PART 1 OF 20
From: FACT
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Date Posted: 03:51:33 05/20/07 ()
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Wow, this is loaded. You seem to know a lot about the Kamajors. Please continue to educate us at your chosen time and leisure. cheers.
Subject: Re: CRY FREETOWN PART 1 OF 20
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 14:36:49 05/19/07 ()
Email Address: ishmael.taylorkamara@kattenlaw.com
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FACT:
I am not averse to analyses, statistical or otherwise. But I am wary of parceling out blame for our woes in this way. APC, SLPP, RUF, AFRC obviously all share some blame for where we are today, if the blame game where we choose to put our focus.
I would prefer we find ways to prevent a recurrence of what has underdeveloped Sierra Leone rather than apportioning "personal" blame. I think that two things are key to what has gone wrong, regardless of party or even timeframe: failed institutions and flawed personalities/characters.
The first one the two factors is currently being addressed with the ongoing reform regime and sustained international support; the second one will require a lot more work-- mostly internal: for starters, a complete reinvention of the Sierra Leone sense of idenity, together with a much-needed national carthasis, if you will.
I don't claim to have all the answers are, but just a few big picture suggestions as to where we can start: we need a revamping our our school curricula from very early on so that we have a universal system that (1)promotes national intergration and (2) facilitates the re-emegence of our once strict moral code of conduct-- through the ideals of loyalty, sacrifice, philanthropy, good citizenship, etc; these are all things that once permeated our society.
We need to restore chieftancy as an institution that, together with the family network and schooling, transmits the values and mores of society; in rural or non-urban areas this is particularly important asday to day living to a large extent is governed by such morally binding customs.
In short, we can and must establish a new "Sierra Leonean ethic", much in the same vein as the "American ideal". This, I believe, will go a long way towards addressing your concern that no new, old or recyled APC, SLPP RUF or AFRC person can so easily destroy our country again.
Of coures, this is merely a framework for those who will soon have the mandate and hopefully the vision and political will to move our nation forward from where we find ourselves today.
Subject: Re: CRY FREETOWN PART 1 OF 20
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 14:59:56 05/19/07 ()
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"But I am wary of parceling out blame for our woes in this way. APC, SLPP, RUF, AFRC obviously all share some blame for where we are today, if the blame game where we choose to put our focus."
ITK:
If, as you claim, "APC, SLPP, RUF, AFRC obviously all share some blame for where we are today," then someone forgot to tell that to the SLPP supporters who have incessantly declared that it is the APC -- and only the APC -- which is responsible for the underdevelopment of SL.
Given your declared support for the failed SLPP regime, it is understandable that you would "prefer we find ways to prevent a recurrence of what has underdeveloped Sierra Leone rather than apportioning "personal" blame." However, what you fail to appreciate is the wisdom of a time-tested adage, namely: "Those who fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat their mistakes."
A critical part of learning the lessons of history is learning the identity of the culprits who played a part in that history. In this case, that means identifying those who have destroyed the hopes for a bright future of millions of S/Leoneans. It is obvious why that is critically important:
As FACT correctly mentioned earlier today, its is the same recycled cabal of unpatriotic politicians who metamorphose into successive APC and SLPP administrations that have been responsible for ruining our country.
What better way to prevent them continuing their revolving door assault on the future development of SL than by identifying them and making sure that they never again are given the opportunity to destroy our country by resurfacing in another party's colors? Or, continuing in the colors of an already failed party?
This is why those who have destroyed our country must be identified and their role publicly apportioned so that we have a means of ranking them according to their unpatriotic actions.
Imagine, if the SLPP leader, President Tejan Kabbah, had been duly subjected to that analysis and the results presented to the people of SL in a fair election in 1996. Would he have been given the opportunity to ruin SL for the next 10 years, as he has done? I don't think so.
Nor will his co-conspirator in the pillage and plunder of SL -- Vice President Solomon Berewa be given such an opportunity to continue to extend the suffering that he and Kabbah have variously inflicted upon millions of S/Leoneans during the past decade. For that very reason, you would prefer that no such accounting occur for that very reason -- since you are an admitted SLPP supporter .
Subject: Re: CRY FREETOWN PART 1 OF 20
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 19:40:11 05/19/07 ()
Email Address: ishmael.taylorkamara@kattenlaw.com
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"As FACT correctly mentioned earlier today, its is the same recycled cabal of unpatriotic politicians who metamorphose into successive APC and SLPP administrations that have been responsible for ruining our country.
What better way to prevent them continuing their revolving door assault on the future development of SL than by identifying them and making sure that they never again are given the opportunity to destroy our country by resurfacing in another party's colors? Or, continuing in the colors of an already failed party? "
Mohamed--
Your comments above demonstrate exactly why it is unproductive to get bogged down in the blame game:
If SLPP and APC politicians are all the same, morphing from one party into the next, then what's the point of hyperventilating over who was/is more responsible for our woes?
If I understand you and FACT correctly, you both believe that not only the APC but also the SLPP to be responsible for "ruining our nation" because successive APC and SLPP governments have included "crossover" politicians. I don't agree with this notion. I do agree with this, the political class certainly tends to be a parasitic elite, but that is not a party issue; that's an issue more complex than we can discuss here, but which must be addressed if we are to develop our country.
Anyway, re-read my comments that you highlighted above and you will see why I don't agree with your notion. What I said was this: to some extent, the SLPP and APC, as well as the RUF and AFRC all share some of the blame, if that's what you want to call it, for where we are today. But what's earth-shattering about that? You seem to forget that the SLPP has ruled Sierra Leone for a total of about fifteen years. Of course it should be held responsible to some extent for where we are today-- it clearly is/has been responsible for much of the good that has happened to Sierra Leone since independence; and the long-term impact of whatever failings it has experienced, has been limited.
Acknowledging this fact does not give any credence to your exaggerated notion of a "revolving door" , and it certainly does not support your outlandish claim that the SLPP was/is "responsible for ruining our country".
The rest of your posting does not convince me either, for at least two reasons:
1. You do not need to get into the blame game to learn from mistakes of the past, as you seem to suggest; I can't speak for everybody obviously, but I believe most Sierra Leoneans know what our problems have been in the past and have some idea about what needs to be done to deal with those problems.
2.There actually is an alternative to what you refer to as a "recycled cabal of unpatriotic politicians ... continuing their revolving door assault on the future development of SL". I don't know whether you have done so, but I have registered to vote in the upcoming elections. Out of the choices for President, it is clear to me which one is superior. And I know you probably won't agree, but that choice, the SLPP candidate certainly does not belong to your group of recycled politicians.
Mohamed, there's also a "potential" alternative thta you have not considered: a new party formed and led by young and dynamic patriotic citizens (including you or me). Maybe, instead of all this remote control involvement in the affairs of our nation, we should take a more direct approach and help make this additional alternative a reality. But unless that happens pretty quickly, I know where exactly my vote is going to go on August 11th.
Subject: Re: CRY FREETOWN PART 1 OF 20
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
To: All
Date Posted: 09:25:37 05/20/07 ()
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ITK wrote on May 19, 2007:
"Your comments above demonstrate exactly why it is unproductive to get bogged down in the blame game:
If SLPP and APC politicians are all the same, morphing from one party into the next, then what's the point of hyperventilating over who was/is more responsible for our woes?"
ITK:
In truth, my comments demonstrate exactly the opposite of what you aver, namely:
That the key to preventing a repeat of the massive revolving door assault by APC-today, SLPP-tomorrow politicians and their ilk on the livelihood of millions of S/Leoneans is to identify them and make sure they don't continue their assault on our people's future livelihood.
Again, a classic example is your SLPP cabal of Kabbah and Berewa. Once Kabbah and Berewa are held responsible for ruining SL over the past decade, it will become clear to any reasonable person that when Kabbah asks for Berewa to be voted in as his successor, he is asking the people of SL to vote to continue their decade-long suffering under the expiring Kabbah-Berewa cabal of corruption and incompetence.
So, whether you agree or not, the utility of identifying those who unbpatriotic S/Leoneans who have ruined our country is self-evident to any objective observer.
As regards your suggestions about specific ways that our country can be developed, there is one fundamental truth that you fail to understand. It is also the one thing you need to undersatnd in order to finally understand why focussing on the character and record of individuals -- not their party-affiliation -- is the key to saving SL from kleptomaniac and incompetent politicans.
That truth is this: No development plan, however brilliant, can make SL a better place if the president of SL is a crook or a proven incompetent. Once you understand that, you will understand why any president of SL must be one whose record is not replete with incompetence and acts of public immorality such as corruption.
You should also be able to understand why Berewa -- Kabbah's co-conspirator in the destruction of the once bright future of millions of SLeoneans -- is totally unfit to be president of a SL that intends to recover from the catastrophic mess left over from the Kabbah-Berewa failed government.
Subject: Re: CRY FREETOWN PART 1 OF 20
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 15:26:59 05/20/07 ()
Email Address: ishmael.taylorkamara@kattenlaw.com
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Yeah Bra, I hear you. As I said, I have registered to vote and will exercise that right on August 11th. Hoepefully, you also are eligible to vote and will do so.
Assuming most of us voting on August 11th will be the "objective observers" you refer to, I rest my case and gladly await the results.
And since you've already indicted and adjudged Berewa I guess you too can wait comfortably for the results.
best
Subject: Re: CRY FREETOWN PART 1 OF 20
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:34:32 05/21/07 ()
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ITK wrote on May 20, 2007:
"Assuming most of us voting on August 11th will be the "objective observers" you refer to, I rest my case and gladly await the results.
And since you've already indicted and adjudged Berewa I guess you too can wait comfortably for the results."
ITK:
Yours is an error of overestimation:
Specifically, you overestimate the impact of a single vote -- be it yours or mine -- in a sea of fraud.
It is a fact that the SLPP has a history of corruption when it comes to elections.For example, it rigged the 1996 elections. So, your faith in the elections to reflect the true will of the voters is misplaced as long as the SLPP is involved ain them as a partisan.
Perhaps you have evidence to show us that the SLPP "monkey kine leff him blackhand." If so, please present it. Otherwise, please dispense with the disingenuous allusions.
Subject: Re: CRY FREETOWN PART 1 OF 20
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 17:54:56 05/21/07 ()
Email Address: ishmael.taylorkamara@kattenlaw.com
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Mohamed:
Well I guess you can have your cake and eat it too, if you must.
If SLPP is as corrupt and and incompetent as you say, does it not follow that your "objective observers" (note the plural!) will vote the SLPP out of office in what we have no reason to doubt will be a free and fair election-- one that is going to be monitored by international and local observers. Your crying fraud before even a single vote has been cast only serves to remind us of your all too familiar modus operandi.
Subject: Re: CRY FREETOWN PART 1 OF 20
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
To: All
Date Posted: 09:16:41 05/22/07 ()
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ITK wrote on May 21, 2007:
"Well I guess you can have your cake and eat it too, if you must.
If SLPP is as corrupt and and incompetent as you say, does it not follow that your "objective observers" (note the plural!) will vote the SLPP out of office in what we have no reason to doubt will be a free and fair election-- one that is going to be monitored by international and local observers."
ITK:
Regrettably, each and every one of your assertions is erroneous, thus rendering your conclusions predictably porous. Let us go to the evidence:
1. You commit a familiar error of reasoning by assuming a fact that is not at all a fact -- "we have no reason to doubt will be a free and fair election-- one that is going to be monitored by international and local observers."
Based upon your erroneous assumption, it is predictable that you would end up with a baseless conclusion -- "If SLPP is as corrupt and incompetent as you say, does it not follow that your "objective observers" (note the plural!) will vote the SLPP out of office."
Obviously, it does not follow at all that objective observers will vote out the corrupt SLPP. That will follow if, and ONLY if, the votes of those objective observers are validly recorded and counted. In other words, only if the elections are free and fair -- something that the SLPP is notorious for not permitting, as I duly reminded you in my last reply.
Apparently, you did not quite understand the import of the historical example of election fraud by the SLPP because you proceeded to offer the following surprising innuendo: "Your crying fraud before even a single vote has been cast only serves to remind us of your all too familiar modus operandi."
My friend, you should rise above the leveling of unsubstantiated innuendo. Instead, you should properly set forth evidence for any and every claim of fact you make. I have already provided many examples of how to do that in my responses to you. So, it should not be too difficult -- or too late -- for you to correct your surprising omissions.
Meanwhile, I hope you are now able to see what you apparently did not see before: That by assuming the SLPP will conduct free and fair elections -- when it has failed to do so in previous elections in 1996, e.g. -- you led yourself into making the erroneous conclusion that a "victory" by the SLPP would be the result of free and fair elections. That is an illogical argument, for the reason I have set forth above.
Finally, you erroneously assume that merely because the elections are "going to be monitored by international and local observers" that guarantees that they will be free and fair. Nothing could be further from the truth -- as the 1996 elections rigged by the SLPP attest, and most recently, as the elections last month in Nigeria rigged by the incumbent government show.
So, my friend, resist the temptation to indulge in factually porous and illogical arguments pursuant to your moribund quest to dress the SLPP in borrowed robes. Instead, be guided by facts and reason -- not blind loyalty to a demonstrably failed and corrupt party like your chosen SLPP.
Subject: Re: CRY FREETOWN PART1 OF 20
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 12:53:22 05/18/07 ()
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They will say " Bring your proof if you are telling the truth."
About voting corruption out of office this year:
On the page before the start of chapter one of Harald Ofstad’s ”Ansvar och Handling" reads:
"Men are some time masters of their fates: The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves"
Shakespeare (Julius Caesar)
Indeed we are the people who vote and choose our governments.
The author of this article is BO Goranssson, who was Director of SIDA before being appointed Swedish Ambassador to Kenya. He would not consider you a fulumuku, san-san boy and I’m going to ask him: “Herr G, do you think that I am one? Is Ali G? “
Subject: REBUTTAL OF THE WEEK
From: Joe Kaindaneh
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Date Posted: 03:27:20 05/18/07 ()
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"The problem now is: How best can we solve this terrible situation and thus improve living conditions for our people? How can we go about developing our country on a systematic basis?"
John Leigh: That is not the problem. The problem is people like you who betray their country for their purely selfish reasons -- such as seeking to recover the bribes you had paid fore a job as ambassador to the most corrupt government in the history of Salone.
Since it is that same SLPP regime that is responsible for devasatating Salone in the last decade, the real problem in Salone is the presence of unpatriotic people like you who selfishly promote corrupt and incompetent people for leadership of our country.
The most graphic examnple of your lack of patriotism is your promotion of the most clueless of the current cabal of corrupt and incompetent SLPP leaders, Solomon Berewa, as qualified for the presidency of Salone.
The question that traitors like you, John Leigh, have not answered is: How can the suffering of the people of Salone be stopped by continuing the tenure of the same SLPP regime for the next five years which has caused their suffering during the past 10 years?
Subject: Re: REBUTTAL OF THE WEEK
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 16:00:50 05/22/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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You are not very intelligent.
Here: "How can the suffering of the people of Salone be stopped by continuing the tenure of the same SLPP regime for the next five years which has caused their suffering during the past 10 years?" - Joe Kaindaneh
What does this mean? Has SLPP ever caused any suffering anywhere! Didn't the SLPP Administration of President KAbbah bring peace nationwide?
Supporting one's political party and its presidential candidate and truthfully explaining the facts about the opposition cannot make one a traitor. You are of a Stone Age mentality. Goodbye. - JL
Subject: Re: REBUTTAL OF THE WEEK
From: Joe Kaindaneh
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Date Posted: 06:06:41 05/23/07 ()
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"You are not very intelligent.
Here: "How can the suffering of the people of Salone be stopped by continuing the tenure of the same SLPP regime for the next five years which has caused their suffering during the past 10 years?" -- John Leigh
John Leigh, if I am "not very intelligent" why then do you come to me to help you understand a very simple sentence that even a fool can understand? Are you advertising the fact that your are less intelligent than a fool?
The simple sentence you did not understand means, obviously, that because the SLPP has brought suffering to the people of Salone -- no electricity, no water, no food, no medicines, no jobs and no hope -- voting for the SLPP means voting for the continuation of that suffering.
Therefore, if the people of Salone want to stop their suffering, they must stop the people who inflict it from continuing to rule them. That means they must vote out the SLPP.
It is that simple.
Subject: Re: REBUTTAL OF THE WEEK
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 12:46:57 05/23/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Mr. John Kaindaneh:
Thank you very much for clearly answering my question. I am grateful. And as you claim, its quite possible that you are far more intelligent than me (and others as well) but I am NOT admitting to such as yet. Let me first see how you continue to debate!
In the meantime, my point to you is that upon its democratic assumption of office, SLPP met those problems you have identified and much more. The RUF, the AFRC/RUF junta caused more destruction and huge damage. The Administration is on the job trying hard to solve them to make our country a much better place but Rome was not built in a day and the government does not have all the resources to solve each and every problem simultaneously as some demand.
Because of prior mal-governance and destruction, our government is on the dole but it is quickly building up a sustainable revenue base to develop Sierra Leone.
And even at that, SLPP is not 100% yet but it is aiming to get there as early as practicable. But the fact is the opposition parties and their presidential candidates are far inferior to the SLPP and Solo B.
One presidential candidate is very nice but quite dull and was a peggy boy to Sahid Jamil - the man APC President Siaka Stevens put in charge of DIMINCO and thus our official diamond exports. Stevens then put Jamil in charge of this our aspirant. We know what the Jamil arrangements did for our country.
The other aspirant equally lacks intellectual vigor but tries to make up for his deficiencies by yap-yap talk, some in irrelevant Latin to fool empty-headed impressionable junior tribalists and poor villagers. He is also said to be a notorious alphabet-soup opportunist (being at one time or the other a member of SLPP, PNP, SLPP, APC, SLPP, NUP, SLPP, NUP, SLPP, resigned SLPP applied back to rejoin SLPP then split to form the PMDC), with an under-achieving background who seems to depend on yap-yap talk and double-crossing others as his key political tactics. He has now turned out to be a poor, poor decision-maker who is making a whole host of dombolo decisions and in a self-fish secretive one-manic way.
The lack of talent behind such decisions clearly is indicative of the disaster ahead should he ever gain the presidency. Thank God he is far, far from that goal!
Besides, his new privately-owned party is full of such characters as low grade san san, one-grain or wan-grain man, bangucrooks, tiff-tiff disbarred lawyers, junior tribalists and an assortment of dubious characters.
The other opposition party is populated by KDDA/Ekutay hegemonistic tribalistic marginalizers, poverty-spreaders, frolickers, destroyers of national wealth through the constructive expulsion of employers-producers-tax payers on one hand; and the importer of poverty, suffering, zero-maintenance of electrical machinery, waterworks, buses, government vehicles, roads, the national stadium and public buildings and the magnifier and promoter of corrupt practices and mal-governance for 26 years.
Again, SLPP is not yet 100% but we hope to get there as we keep on winning free, fair and wholly democratic elections after elections on and on. Thank you. - JL
Subject: IMMIGRATION DEAL --- WILL ALL THE ILLEGALS PLEASE STAND UP?
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 01:19:29 05/18/07 ()
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MSNBC.com
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Senators strike deal on immigration reform bill
Compromise deal would legalize millions of illegal immigrants
The Associated Press
Updated: 5:04 p.m. PT May 17, 2007
WASHINGTON - Key senators in both parties and the White House announced agreement Thursday on an immigration overhaul that would grant quick legal status to millions of illegal immigrants already in the U.S. and fortify the border.
The plan would create a temporary worker program to bring new arrivals to the U.S and a separate program to cover agricultural workers. Skills and education-level would for the first time be weighted over family connections in deciding whether future immigrants should get permanent legal status. New high-tech employment verification measures also would be instituted to ensure that workers are here legally.
The compromise came after weeks of painstaking closed-door negotiations that brought the most liberal Democrats and the most conservative Republicans together with President Bush's Cabinet officers to produce a highly complex measure that carries heavy political consequences.
Bush praises deal
Bush called it "a much-needed solution to the problem of illegal immigration in this country" and said, if approved, the proposal "delivers an immigration system that is secure, productive, orderly and fair."
"With this bipartisan agreement, I am confident leaders in Washington can have a serious, civil and conclusive debate so I can sign comprehensive reform into law this year," he said in a written statement Thursday.
Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts, his party's lead negotiator on the deal, hailed it as "the best possible chance we will have in years to secure our borders and bring millions of people out of the shadows and into the sunshine of America."
Anticipating criticism from conservatives, Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., said, "It is not amnesty. This will restore the rule of law."
The accord sets the stage for what promises to be a bruising battle next week in the Senate on one of Bush's top non-war priorities.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., called the proposal a "starting point" for that debate, but added that it needs improvement.
"I have serious concerns about some aspects of this proposal, including the structure of the temporary worker program and undue limitations on family immigration," Reid said in a statement.
Opponents in the House immediately spoke out against the proposal.
"Some want to sell citizenship to lawbreakers for the price of a fine. Amnesty treats illegal immigrants better than those who play by the rules and come in the right way," said Lamar Smith, R-Texas.
Peter King, R-N.Y. said, "the Senate's amnesty proposal will only serve to weaken the security of our homeland, and I strongly oppose the measure."
'Point system' breakthrough
The key breakthrough came when negotiators struck a bargain on a so-called "point system" that prioritizes immigrants' education and skill level over family connections in deciding how to award green cards.
The immigration issue also divides both parties in the House, which isn't expected to act unless the Senate passes a bill first.
The proposed agreement would allow illegal immigrants to come forward and obtain a "Z visa" and — after paying fees and a $5,000 fine — ultimately get on track for permanent residency, which could take between eight and 13 years. Heads of household would have to return to their home countries first.
They could come forward right away to claim a probationary card that would let them live and work legally in the U.S., but could not begin the path to permanent residency or citizenship until border security improvements and the high-tech worker identification program were completed.
A new temporary guest worker program would also have to wait until those so-called "triggers" had been activated.
Those workers would have to return home after work stints of two years, with little opportunity to gain permanent legal status or ever become U.S. citizens. They could renew their guest worker visas twice, but would be required to leave for a year in between each time.
Democrats had pressed instead for guest workers to be permitted to stay and work indefinitely in the U.S.
In perhaps the most hotly debated change, the proposed plan would shift from an immigration system primarily weighted toward family ties toward one with preferences for people with advanced degrees and sophisticated skills. Republicans have long sought such revisions, which they say are needed to end "chain migration" that harms the economy, while some Democrats and liberal groups say it's an unfair system that rips families apart.
Family connections alone would no longer be enough to qualify for a green card — except for spouses and minor children of U.S. citizens.
New limits would apply to U.S. citizens seeking to bring foreign-born parents into the country.
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Subject: IS WOLFOWITZ A THREAT TO THE STATUS QUO AT WORLD BANK????
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World Bank faces change post-Wolfowitz
How will the multibillion-dollar fight against global poverty be managed?
ANALYSIS
By John W. Schoen
Senior Producer
MSNBC
Updated: 8:17 p.m. PT May 17, 2007
The political firestorm at the World Bank that cost President Paul Wolfowitz his job Thursday was sparked by a promotion he arranged for his girlfriend. But some of the real issues behind his ouster have been festering since his first day on the job in 2005, when he embarked on a mission to change the way the 60-year-old institution manages its task of fighting global poverty.
That means there’s a lot more at stake than the political infighting between Wolfowitz, the White House’s hand-picked proxy, and the powerful European members of the bank's board who pushed him out, according to Colin Bradford, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.
“What’s at stake is that the bank is a caldron, a forum in which countries around the world in their differing capacities and weights sort out where we’re going in the attack on global poverty and on issues related to it, such as global financial flows, debt, trade, health, environmental issues that impact on poverty and the like,” said Bradford, an economist and former World Bank staffer.
Established at the end of World War II as part of a restructuring of the world financial system known as Bretton Woods, the World Bank and its sister International Monetary Fund were tasked with rebuilding economies ravaged by war. The major parties to the agreement — the Allies that won the war — decided that the World Bank president would be chosen by the United States and the leader of the IMF would be appointed by major European powers, a policy that has persisted since.
As the bank's biggest donor and largest shareholder with a 17 percent stake, the United States also maintains effective control over broad policy issues with veto power over major bank decisions. Critics of the World Bank say that makes the bank too reliant on U.S. foreign policy.
The backlash against Wolfowitz has reopened the debate over whether the agency should have greater independence. At the very least, it has increased pressure on the White House to cede some of the authority for naming the next bank president to seek a wider consensus among member countries.
“You’re seeing a kind of clash of cultures between a highly centralized, determined, single-minded and authoritarian style of management in an institution which is multilateral and therefore has a diverse set of interests and ideas and perspectives that is embodied by the nature of that fact that 185 countries are members of the bank,” said Bradford.
In his two years in office, Wolfowitz, who was one of the Bush administration's key architects of the Iraq war, managed to ruffle feathers on several issues, according to Faiz Shakir, research director at the Center for American Progress.
“He has promoted regressive family planning policies,” he said. “He has tried to play down the link of global warming and carbon emissions in World Bank science reports. He's tried to push a World Bank office in Baghdad, of all places, one of the most corrupt and insecure places around the globe, and he’s saying anti-corruption is his principal issue. “
Wolfowitz’s supporters say his campaign against corruption in developing countries is critical to the success of the bank’s mission of fighting poverty.
There’s no disagreement that money intended to help the poor can’t have an impact if it lands in the bank accounts of corrupt political leaders. But Wolfowitz took a harder stand than his predecessors — going so far as to cut off funds to countries that he felt didn’t attack corruption aggressively enough.
That cutoff antagonized some World Bank officials and fed the political backlash against him, according to Jack Burkman, a Republican political consultant in Washington.
“Most of the money has been embezzled by warlords and ended up in the hands of people with munitions,” he said. “These bureaucrats in the bank, the ones that don't remain bureaucrats for their lifetime, a lot of them go out and become consultants. They live off this fat and corruption. Wolfowitz (was) threatening their little fiefdoms.”
The debate over how to handle corruption among recipients of World Bank grants and loans is not new. In 1996, then-World Bank President James Wolfensohn took up the issue, warning of the “cancer of corruption” in some developing countries.
Wolfowitz's work fighting corruption has had an impact. Last month, the World Bank estimated that the extent of graft in poorer countries could approach $800 billion a year and announced a new effort to recover assets stolen by corrupt leaders.
But Wolfowitz's legacy at the bank will also be remembered for a management style that his critics say failed to generate consensus among the bank member nations — or even the 24 countries represented on the bank’s governing board.
“He’s believed he's above the institutional standards and rules,” said Shakir. “And he hasn't felt that he needs to work with allies around the World Bank and around the globe. He feels like he can do whatever the heck he wants to do.”
That confrontational style has brought into focus the longstanding U.S. dominance of the bank’s leadership. In an increasingly global economy, Wolfowitz’s unilateral approach to running the bank may force the White House to acknowledge that an arrangement worked out 60 years ago needs to be changed, said Bradford.
“The way to acknowledge it is to turn the Wolfowitz presidency on its head and have the next president of the World Bank realize that the approach needs to be one that’s fully consultative, fully multilateral and fully integrative," said Bradford, a former World Bank staffer. "And that it’s the job of the leadership of the bank to incorporate diversity into a corporate World Bank vision — and not to impose the vision of one country.”
Some have questioned of whether the World Bank is even needed anymore in a world where a global economy is providing private investment to developing countries in ways the bank’s founders never could have envisioned. In the past decade, huge inflows of private capital have sparked rapid development in countries like China, India and Brazil.
But private lenders and investors in emerging markets have a distinctly different mission — to get a return on their capital. As the gap widens in many countries between the wealthiest and poorest, the bank’s mission has never been more important, said Bradford.
Nearly half the world's 6.5 billion people get by on less than $2 a day, he said.
"And this is increasing a division that’s fraught with implications for the global environment, the global health system and global security," he said. "It’s not an easy problem, and the bank is the premier institution and the leader and has been for a decade or more.”
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Subject: Re: IS WOLFOWITZ A THREAT TO THE STATUS QUO AT WORLD BANK????
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 15:36:33 05/18/07 ()
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Greetings my brothers and sisters. For many years the World Bank, and the United Nations have been critisied for not living-up to expectation. As institutions of a global nature that, especially the United Nations, do not have unilateral mandates outside the confines of the a multi-lateral concessors of about 180 countries especially the greater powers, it is often indiscretionable to view the shortfalls without giving credence to the huddles that have laid in the way to achieving the dreams eyemarked by the founding-fathers flawlessly.
"TWO years ago, when Paul Wolfowitz left the Pentagon to head the World Bank, he was under fire over his role in the Iraq war but he approached his new job with the same moral fervor and appetite for shaking up the status quo that had marked his tenure at the Defence Department.
Wasting no time, he launched a campaign against corrupt borrowers. He cut off loans to uncooperative countries without consulting other officials. He created ethics police to monitor employees. He even chopped back the bank's traditionally lavish Christmas party.
Now, having sown the wind, Wolfowitz has reaped the whirlwind. The controversy over how his girlfriend landed a good job and huge salary increases has brought to the surface long-submerged but deep-seated resentments from almost every quarter. "When the match was lit, the fire exploded. The gas was already in the room," said a former Treasury official.
On Friday, with Wolfowitz's job on the line, the Bush administration faced two questions: how hard to fight for him and how much damage to its stature his ouster would cause.
The bank's board of directors continued to say it was pondering the matter. But one clue to how tough the in-fighting was becoming did emerge: a leaked report that European governments had decided to cut off contributions to the bank's loan funds if Wolfowitz did not quit." (Business Day,April 16, 2007.)
"IS WOLFOWITZ A THREAT TO THE STATUS QUO AT WORLD BANK????"
Before one delves into answering this question, let us try to see what prompted such a questionning. In so doing, let us know who the woman he was involved with and what changes, if any, he innitiated at the said institution. Bellow is an excerpt about Shaha Riza and what transpired in the ethics violation Mr. WOLFOWITZ is accused of:
Shaha Riza.
Shaha Riza, (born 1953 or 1954), is a World Bank staffer who is currently on external assignment. She was forced to leave her position as Senior Communications Officer (and acting manager of external affairs) for the Middle East and North Africa Regional Office at the World Bank when Paul Wolfowitz was brought in as President. Riza had already been romantically linked to Wolfowitz, when he was the Deputy Secretary of Defense under Donald Rumsfeld in the Bush Administration. [1] An article published on 13 April 2007 in The New York Times indicates that Riza now serves (still on external assignment from the World Bank) with the Foundation for the Future. [2]
Background
Riza was born in Tripoli, Libya, to a Libyan father (Khalid Alwalid Algargny) and Syrian-Saudi mother. She grew up in Tunisia, Saudi Arabia, and the United Kingdom. She is a British citizen. She moved to the United States after her marriage to Bulent Ali Riza, also spelled Bulent Aliriza, (born 1952) in the late 1980s. Riza studied at the London School of Economics before taking a master's degree in International Relations from the University of Oxford (1983), where she studied at St Antony's College. She speaks Arabic, English, French, Italian, and Turkish. She is divorced and has one son who lives with her. Her father was a consultant to King Saud of Saudi Arabia. Her mother lives in Libya.
Riza specializes in the Middle East and has carried out field research in a number of Arab countries. Immediately before joining the World Bank, she worked at the National Endowment for Democracy, where she set up and led the endowment’s Middle East programs. Since joining the World Bank in 1997, she worked with the Middle East and North Africa Social and Economic Development Group as a Senior Gender Specialist and then as a Senior Communications Officer in the Middle East and North Africa Regional Office (MENA). In July 2002, she became the acting manager for external affairs and outreach for the World Bank's MENA region, a position she held until she was required to relinquish her job in the wake of the Wolfowitz hiring. According to a profile of Wolfowitz published in the London Sunday Times of March 20, 2005, Riza "shares Wolfowitz’s passion for spreading democracy in the Arab world" and "is said to have reinforced his determination to remove Saddam Hussein’s oppressive regime."[3]
[edit] Wolfowitz scandal
In March 2005, Riza's neighbors began to speak to the press about her personal relationship with Paul Wolfowitz, who had been nominated by the Bush administration for President of the World Bank despite reported concern from some other Bank member countries. British tabloids played up the story; one opponent at the Bank said: "Unless Riza gives up her job, this will be an impossible conflict of interest."[4] Meanwhile, some of the Arab media expressed surprise that Wolfowitz, given his career reputation as a neo-conservative and background (a second generation American born to a Polish Jewish immigrant family), would date an Arab Muslim [5].
Wolfowitz was confirmed as World Bank President in June 2005. According to a dossier released by the World Bank[6], Wolfowitz had acknowledged his association with Riza in May. The relationship threatened to violate a World Bank ethics rule against personal relationships between bank employees and their supervisors, including indirect supervision through a chain of command. Wolfowitz's position was that Riza should be allowed to keep her job at the bank if he recused himself from all personnel actions or decisions that involved her. [7] The Ethics Committee responded that recusal was not good enough and that Riza would have to be reassigned outside Wolfowitz's managerial control, direct or indirect. The committee considered various options for compensating Riza for the disruption to her career. [8] It advised an in situ promotion. [9]
According to the dossier, Wolfowitz responded to these findings of the Ethics Committee by dictating the terms of Riza's settlement to the Bank's Vice President for Human Relations, Xavier Coll. Riza would be offered a paid external assignment with the State Department, a promotion at the World Bank before the assignment to a tax-free salary of $180,000, and an automatic annual raise of 8 percent. Wolfowitz told the Ethics Committee on August 12 that Coll and Riza had reached an agreement; the formal offer came in September. On October 24, the Ethics Committee concluded that the external posting meant that the conflict of interest had been resolved.[10] However, the then-chairman of the Ethics Committee, Ad Melkert, has denied that he was advised of the details of the settlement. [11]
Riza's position in the State Department was in the office of Elizabeth Cheney (daughter of Dick Cheney), who worked at the time for C. David Welch, the Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs. Later she transferred from the State Department to the Foundation for the Future.
In February 2006, pseudonymous e-mail messages to the World Bank corruption hotline accused Wolfowitz of ethical violations in regard to compensation to Shaha Riza, as well as to his advisors Robin Cleveland and Kevin Kellems. In response, the Ethics Committee reported that the "allegations did not appear appropriate for further consideration by the committee".[12]
In 2007, the Washington Post reported that Riza's salary had increased from $132,660 to $193,590 per year, tax-exempt.[13] This article led to a cascade of news coverage and demands for Wolfowitz's resignation.[14] A new ad hoc investigation was set up at the World Bank. Shaha Riza wrote the committee that she was a victim in the case, arguing that the conflict-of-interest concern was spurious from the beginning and that she never wanted to leave the World Bank.[15]
In contrast to claims made earlier by Wolfowitz's office, the Washington Post reported that (i) Wolfowitz had directly dictated the terms of the contract to the head of human resources, Coll, (ii) the Bank's top lawyer had been excluded from the negotiation of the contract, and (iii) neither the Bank's board nor the Ethics Committee had been informed at the time of the specific terms of the final agreement. The then-chair of the Ethics Committee, Ad Melkert, has emphasized the last point. [16].
On April 12, 2007, Wolfowitz apologized for what he called a "mistake," but would not comment about resigning as World Bank governors met on April 15. With the Board of Executive Directors still reviewing the details of the case, Wolfowitz commented, "I'm not going to preempt their [the Board's] deliberations. I will accept any remedies they propose." [17]
On April 17, 2007, the opinion column of The Wall Street Journal published a viewpoint on the scandal that provided often overlooked details and characterized the "scandal" as a witch hunt.[18] Likewise, The Los Angeles Times published an op-ed calling it "a non story" and a "bum rap"[19]
The New York Times called for Wolfowitz's resignation on April 28, 2007, saying that "The best thing Paul Wolfowitz can do for the World Bank, the country and himself is to step down." [20]
On May 17, 2007 it was announced that Wolfowitz would resign effective June 30, 2007."
The question is if Mr. WOLFOWITZ is found wanton of the code of ethics of the institution can he effectively lead to gain the respect of staff of the institution. If removed how fair can it be, had their been evidences of corruption to which no correctional measures were effected to per with the recent cry for his resignation, how can that affect change that has been said to have been accomplished by the institution. Is Mr. Wolfwitz's decission in the interest of utilizing a potentially significant member of the institution whose service to the institution can be invaluable to the institution and the mission for which it was established, knowing that she had been working there prior to his appointment to the position? Is it again a lesson learned from him, being that his mission was to change the way the institution was run to a new dimention, corruption-free therefore, haven learned the best way to do things it would be unfair should he violates the code of ethics without repercussions.
By and large, I am confident that whether or not Mr. Wolfawitz is a threat to the status-quo at the World Bank would be determined at a future date not the present moment. For there have been changes inpleted and the the effectiveness of these changes, how better they can hold cannot be deternined in only two years. I am confident that only time and history will be able to determine whether he is or not a threat at the World Bank. The direction the institution will lead when and if he resigns will determined the accuracy of such a question. For now it is too early to say.
Subject: Salone #46
From: Judge Jury
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Date Posted: 22:33:19 05/17/07 ()
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Are we really #46 in Africa????
African Rankings - May 2007 (world rankings in brackets):
1. Cameroon (13)
2. Ivory Coast (25)
3. Nigeria (27)
4. Ghana (28)
5. Egypt (38)
6. Senegal (39)
7. Mali (40)
8. Tunisia (46)
9. Morocco (47)
10. Guinea (50)
11. Burkina Faso (54)
12. Angola (56)
13. South Africa (59)
14. DR Congo (61)
15. Algeria (65)
16. Togo (66)
17. Zambia (68)
18. Congo (81)
19. Zimbabwe (84)
20. Equatorial Guinea (86)
21. Cape Verde Islands (88)
22. Libya (89)
23. Ethiopia (99)
24. Botswana (102)
25. Gabon (104)
26. Uganda (106)
27. Benin (107)
27. Malawi (107)
29. Sudan (114)
30. Tanzania (117)
31. Mozambique (118)
32. Liberia (119)
33. Burundi (121)
34. Rwanda (122)
35. Kenya (124)
36. Mauritania (129)
37. Namibia (131)
38. Gambia (132)
39. Chad (133)
40. Eritrea (139)
41. Mauritius (142)
42. Seychelles (143)
43. Niger (145)
44. Lesotho (146)
45. Swaziland (151)
46. Sierra Leone (155)
47. Madagascar (171)
48. Central African Republic (180)
49. Comoros (182)
50. Guinea-Bissau (187)
51. Somalia (192)
52. Djibouti (199)
52. Sao Tome e Principe (199)
Subject: Re: Salone #46
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Thanks God. No 46 is better than 52.
Subject: Re: Salone #46
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number 46 for what?
Subject: Re: Salone #46
From: Judge Jury
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Date Posted: 12:52:10 05/18/07 ()
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FIFA--Soccer
Subject: INDIAN TECHNICAL SUPPORT
From: Tech Support
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Date Posted: 22:05:25 05/17/07 ()
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Funny jokes
Subject: Re: INDIAN TECHNICAL SUPPORT
From: APC
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Date Posted: 22:06:44 05/17/07 ()
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Outsourcing issues eenh
Subject: Re: INDIAN TECHNICAL SUPPORT
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Date Posted: 22:09:28 05/17/07 ()
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Here is part two
Subject: Re: INDIAN TECHNICAL SUPPORT
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Koker, so you have a new false name -- Tech support?
ROTFLMMAO
Oh you corrupt blind SLPP supporters! You never admit your corruption!
Subject: QUOTE FOR A COOL THURSDAY EVENING
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 18:47:49 05/17/07 ()
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“....... This is another Wuteteh Election. It is over. We have finished them Kpata Kpata.” unQuote.
- Posted by Concerned on May 17, 2007
Subject: Re: QUOTE FOR A COOL THURSDAY EVENING
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We lead, others follow. I was talking to an Executive member of the party few hrs ago and he de-briefed on the RETURNEES. In his words " the south ,east and west belongs to US, the North needs some more work but with time, we shall make inroads".
By GOD IM POWER all dis yap yap wae GAMBLER dae make E GO DON.
Subject: Re: QUOTE FOR A COOL THURSDAY EVENING
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 19:41:00 05/17/07 ()
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Thank you, Concerned, for the update. Even in the North, we are doing well. My estimates for the SLPP vote share per District are as follows:
Kambia - 45-50%; Port Loko - 45-50%; Tonkololi - 40-55%; Bombali - 30%; Koinadugu - 60%-65%.
PS: According to a DFID official I once met in Conakry, he asked the Gambler what he would do if he had all the resources to develop Sierra Leone. He answer shocked the Brit. It will shock you, too.
Mombo-Tombo-Dumbo answered that the first thing he'll do would be to build an expressway to bypass the congested city areas and directly link the residences in the hills (Signal Hill, Wilberforce, Hill Station, Hilcot, Spur, Mt. Aureol, etc.)to the Spa Area of Lumbly Beach,. etc.
I have since learned the reason why this dombolo foolishness: to get him faster to the gambling dices and tables!!!! Oh SaLone, we are narrow-minded! Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: QUOTE FOR A COOL THURSDAY EVENING
From: foday mansaray
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Date Posted: 21:15:05 05/18/07 ()
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Hon, how did you get these statistics?