Subject: With Monty Jones, why SLPP creates hungry in Sierra Leone?
From: news from BBC
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Date Posted: 03:59:05 05/05/07 ()
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Rice-breeder joins world leaders
Monty Jones
Nerica is helping to boost Africa's rice harvests
A Sierra Leone scientist has been voted among the world's most influential people by the US Time magazine.
Monty Jones helped develop a new form of rice, known as Nerica - short for New Rice for Africa - which increases yields by up to 50%.
Nerica is seen as one reason why Africa's harvest of rice - a staple food in much of the continent - has been rising in recent years.
Mr Jones is one of just five Africans on this year's list of 100 names.
The others are Sudan's President Omar al-Bashir, South African politician turned businessman Cyril Ramaphosa, Nigerian Anglican Archbishop Peter Akinola and Senegalese musician Youssou N'Dour.
Bush dropped
Nerica combines the hardiness of traditional African strains with the productivity of Asian varieties.
Rice is the staple food across much of West Africa but much of it is imported.
On Thursday, it was announced that African rice production had grown for the sixth year running.
Africa Rice Center director Papa Abdoulaye Seck says Nerica is a major reason.
Some of the biggest increases in rice production were in Mali and Burkina Faso - among the first countries to introduce Nerica, he says.
Others on the Time list include world leaders such as German Chancellor Angela Merkel, Iranian supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and UK Queen Elizabeth II, but not US President George W Bush for the first time since the list began four years ago.
Osama Bin Laden, Pope Benedict XVI and Sacha Baron Cohen, creator of the Borat film character, chat-show host Oprah Winfrey, tennis champion Roger Federer and footballer Thierry Henry are also named.
Subject: Re: With Monty Jones, why SLPP creates hungry in Sierra Leone?
From: Salonegal
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Date Posted: 06:50:04 05/05/07 ()
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As long as you have kleptomaniacs like SLPP President Kabbah and Vice President Solomon Berewa, not even the smartest Saloneans working for the country will be able to save it from the corruption and mismanagement of the world-notorious SLPP misfits.
That is the reason why Saloneans need to act to throw their opressors over the past 10 years -- the very corrupt SLPP governemtn -- out of power in the coming elections.
Subject: Makeni residents prepare for APC peace march
From: new citizen news
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Date Posted: 03:54:20 05/05/07 ()
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www.thenewcitizen-sl.com
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MAKENI RUNS SHORT OF RED
According to the Deputy Chairman of the All Peoples Congress party, Bombali District, Okoya Kamara, “the peace march is being perceived by party faithfuls as one final move to make it clear that the APC is poised to clinch political power after the July 28th presidential and parliamentary elections.”
Okoya Kamara further stated that the newly appointed APC Chairman, Mr. Birch Conteh would be received alongside the party Leader, Ernest Bai Koroma as a true symbol of the peace that has returned to the APC.
Also to be present at the ceremony is the proposed National Campaign Manager of the APC party, Edward Turay, Mr. Abdul Serry-Kamal, M. L. Bangura and Osho-Williams.
The APC leadership would be received at Magbenteh, outside Makeni by the people of Makeni town from where there would be a massive procession to the Wusum football grounds, where all the leaders of the party would together make the peace pledge.
Makeni has run short of red materials and interested APC supporters must contact their relatives in Freetown to buy red T-Shirts.
According to Okoya Kamara, “six of the strong APC men who had defected to the SLPP will on Saturday declare their return to the APC at the Wusum Grounds in Makeni.”
Makeni, the headquarters of the Northern Province, is the APC stronghold and this is translated in the fact that the APC runs the Town Council and the Bombali District Council.
Subject: IMF denies SLPP victory prediction
From: san san boy
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Date Posted: 03:45:10 05/05/07 ()
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Forumite, this is the e-mail address of the so-called Economic Intelligence Unit who made an erroneous prediction that the kleptomaniac SLPP will win the elections;london@eiu.com
This is the time to question their partial statement.
Oppostion supporters, please, send letter to the secretariat
Subject: Salone borbor
From: Liberia man
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Date Posted: 01:44:30 05/05/07 ()
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SLPP,APC; APC,PDMC; PDMC,SLPP. Chai Salone borbor dem, I liiiike your forum but I hate your politics! Chai!
Subject: POLITICAL SECRET - AWARENESSTIMES
From: Chief Bomborlai
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Date Posted: 01:19:57 05/05/07 ()
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Awareness Times News brief
Top SLPP officials associate with PMDC
It is reported that some ministers and Members of Parliament in the ruling SLPP have allegedly switched to the People Movement for Democratic Change party. The officials in question have already registered with the PMDC and are just waiting for the dissolution of parliament to tender their registration. President Kabbah, according to a minister who maintained his anonymity, imposed vice President Berewa on the people and that Margai was a popular choice as compared to Berewa.
Subject: A CREEPING REBELION UNDER SLPP'S WATCH
From: Chief Bomborlai
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Date Posted: 01:07:26 05/05/07 ()
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Security: Marauders cause mayhem in Southern Pujehun
Pujehun district and other parts of the Southern Province has been declared by the Sierra Leone Police as areas of grave security concern as unidentified people invade villages, burn down houses and flee into neighbouring forests without identification. The Inspector General of Police Brima Acha Kamara yesterday re-assured the public that that this strange development cannot be associated with politics as he emphasised, “from our investigations, it is not likely to be PMDC or SLPP affair. We are beginning to suspect a disorganised rebellion against some traditional rulers.”
Subject: It will be tragedy in Sierra Leone if SLPP wins August 11
From: Yapo Conteh
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Date Posted: 17:40:15 05/04/07 ()
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First of all, they will have to cheat to win and to Sierra Leone people that is where we will have the first tragedy. You see what happened Saturday in Freetown is warning that nobody wants SLPP. Any rigging will lead to war.That is a fact. You see how Sierra Leoneans are suffering unde SLPP,there nothing to eat in the country like rice.Everything is expensive, no development, only corruption and suffering. Mr. John Leigh does not have any shame which why he will keep bosting here SLPP will win. Who wants SLPP? Dont allow him fool you. Bo is PMDC.Many of the marchers last week became imported from provinces.The deceit , corruption, suffering is too much for us in Sierra Leone. You think everybody ready for five years more ? No one is ready so if SLPP forces to win, there will be a tragedy. Everybody angry .
Subject: Re: It will be tragedy in Sierra Leone if SLPP wins August 11
From: SHAMSU DEEN-COLE
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Date Posted: 20:34:19 05/04/07 ()
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My Fellow Sierra Leoneans, I am writing this article to Sierra Leoneans in Particular, because I am troubled and concern about our way of thinking and where is our priority and Loyalty? A TOPIC LIKE THIS SHOULD BE UNACCEPTABLE.
So far, it seems to me that we are on the wrong side of Human history, and unless we change our “ATTITUDE”, the development of our Nation will always be in Question...
Before Making my case, let me pay tribute to one of Our Musical artist “Daddy Ramanu Davies” for one of his record which says “If we want to change Sierra Leone, We must Change our Attitude”.
This is my Story., About three months ago I attended an event in New Jersey, of which I was privileged to, engaged in Political conversation with some of my fellow Sierra Leoneans in regards to the coming Election. As many of you know, I am a member of the SLPP, and I have good and friendly relations with many friends in other Political Parties of Sierra Leone. As a matter of fact, many of my Friends from other parties always like to have a dialogue with me because I always try to keep it progressive and civil.
However, during this conversation (which includes members from the APC, PMDC, and some Independent); I was sickened by a statement made by a man that I did not even know. He was not even a part of our discussion group, but he came into the Group and started making disturbing statements such as
“If SLPP try to steal this coming Election, there will be another CIVIL WAR IN SIERRA LEONE”.
Ladies and Gentlemen, I could not believe my ears. However, looking at the person that made such statement, I decided to disregard him, and relieved myself from the conversation.
Last week, I attended one event, in observance of our Independence Anniversary. Again there came a platform for political discussion. This time I was very much relax and ready to engage into some important, progressive and educative chat, because of the faculty of people I was talking with. Little did I know that I will be facing the same irresponsible statement.
One of the top officials of one of the Political Party in New Jersey, made the same statement “If this Coming Election is not free and fair, there will be another Civil WAR IN SIERRA LEONE”. Unlike the other man that made the first statement , this person is a well “Educated and Intelligent Man". How can any true loving Sierra Leonean, think of such evil to befall our Nation.
I may be Naive in some respect, but I will never wish such atrocity on my enemy, let alone on My People. Notwithstanding the fact that I wish the SLPP will win the coming Election, but not at the expense of my beloved motherland.
I have seen Civil War. I was in Somalia, Bosnia and Kosovo. For over 10 years I was roaming all over with the UN, in Countries that are still looking for the end of their nightmare. I know what a civil war is like, and every day I say thanks to Allah and our Leaders for bringing peace to our Nation..
Even when you go to Freetown today, you will see our Brothers and Sisters with half a leg and or half a hand, as a result of what happen to them during our resent ordeal. How can any body say they LOVE Sierra Leone, and wish for another civil war on our people is beyond me.
I am asking that we think very seriously of our Loyalty. Are we Loyal to our political party, more than to our Nation?, or to our Nation First?. Remember my Slogan "Country First".
. When will we start copying positive things from the develop world, for our people and our Nation. Do you remember what happen in the 2000 Presidential Election in the USA (which most people believe Al Gore won). If Democrats have decided to go home and get their Guns, start killing any and every Republican, because they did not like the final result, where will we be today?.. That is what makes a Country great. The way you handle and settle your Political, Economic, Social and Moral Issues, will determine who you are and where you are going. Our people deserved better.
As Dwight Eisenhower once said "When people speak to you about War, you tell them to go and fight it. I have come to hate war. War settles nothing". The tragedy of war is that it uses man's best to do man's worst.
I pray to God Almighty, that such a statement was just a bluff. I know that we Sierra Leoneans are Good people and we can do better things, and we in the Diaspora, have a lot of Political, Moral and Social Growing up to do.
Violence cannot build a better society. Disruption and disorder nourish repression, not justice. They strike at the freedom of every citizen. The community cannot and will not, tolerate coercion and mob rule.
GOD BLESS SIERRA LEONE
Subject: Re: It will be tragedy in Sierra Leone if SLPP wins August 11
From: Patriot
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Date Posted: 00:05:00 05/05/07 ()
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" “If we want to change Sierra Leone, We must Change our Attitude”.
Mr. Deen-Cole:
That change of attitude starts with abandoning the "how for do, God dae" posture that has allowed a corrupt government like the SLPP to ruin our country since 1996.
That means that the SLPP must be kicked out of power in this year's elections so that they would no longer be able to inpose suffering on the people of Salone, while looting the country's money and donor funds.
It will not need a war to do that. It would only need the SLPP to obey the law by resisting the temptation to rig the elections.
Subject: Re:Try us this time
From: Ready to fight
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Date Posted: 19:27:38 05/04/07 ()
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I was a PMDC sympathiser but any fight in that country will be met with the greatest resistance you can ever imagine. Any success by the SLPP in the polls would be attrributed solely to the demise of PMDC.Margai is a disappointment.
Subject: Re: It will be tragedy in Sierra Leone if SLPP wins August 11
From: Lord Bongo Johnson
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Date Posted: 18:34:20 05/04/07 ()
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Bo this Baba get name dem oh. Two hours ago you call yousef Anu, now you say you name nar Yapo. Soon you go call yousef Jacob-2-left-foot, or sorie-month-boy or santigie-begga-man. You get multiple-personality-disorder? Watin do you for true? Dr. Nahim nor able hep you?
Yapo or Anu or Santigie beggar man (or how you call yousef), bo stick to one name nar yah so. Otherwise we go get for call the craise man docta for you again.....
Subject: Re: It will be tragedy in Sierra Leone if SLPP wins August 11
From: Yapo Conteh
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Date Posted: 18:57:32 05/04/07 ()
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You are SLPP,I can guess. When they tell you the truth , instead of you accepting it it is to say persons have many names.
Subject: Re: It will be tragedy in Sierra Leone if SLPP wins August 11
From: Lord Bongo Johnson
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Date Posted: 19:05:46 05/04/07 ()
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Bo Yapo lef nor...
How you go tell the truth way you day lie you own name?
Way I mention dat, you begin call me SLPP.
By the way, me cousin nar bin one of den soja way SLPP kill. So how ar go support dem?
Enti ar don tell you for stick to one name.
If you refuse, I go call Dr Nahim for you.
Me pikin Dan Dogo say he sabi you.
He say nar oonar all bin dae class 3. Nar true?
Subject: Re: It will be tragedy in Sierra Leone if SLPP wins August 11
From: Winning without rigging
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Date Posted: 18:19:59 05/04/07 ()
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So your summation is that even if the SLPP wins the elections without cheating you will not accept the results. What really makes you think that SLPP cannot win without rigging the elections? I personally think your summation is wrong.
Subject: SOUTHERN PROVINCE UPDATE
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 16:56:23 05/04/07 ()
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I have just spoken to several people in Bo. The line is clear and here is the latest:
1. SLPP will have its Million Man March in BoTown on May 12. Virtually Every Southern Province Village is sending at least one delegate each. Please send your donation for this venture to Mr. Raymond Kobba, Chair, Bo District SLPP, 23 Fenton Road, Bo. I am sending my donation AM tomorrow.
2. PMDC yap-yap noise has dried up in the Province. The town is super quiet with san san boys and Shellmingo pay-no-never-mind to politics. His Excellency Mr. Doufus Maggai spent over ten days in Bo recently and his long presence there was a badly kept secret. But few, if anyone, went to visit him.
3. APC is likely going to be the opposition party as PMDC can’t find parliamentary candidates who want their fahlahmahkahtah symbol.
4. Following the one-manic double-cross-and-kindergarten dumbo dombolo stunt, PMDC cash has dried up and apparently no funding is available for parliamentary contests. Reportedly, Femi and Soccoh have barrantered. Those PMDCers who believe that campaign donations are bribes and who have surplus cash to spare should hold tight and fast to their money and don’t give Mr. Maggai a single cent as giving money to help elect your party’s candidates is disgraceful bribery and corruption.
5. Diaspora would-be PMDC parliamentary candidates are pulling out in droves from the parliamentary contests and returning to their flunkey toilet scrubbing, train-station sweeping, stamp-licking and glue-sniffing basement jobs abroad.
6. Frustration and dejection are spreading. Suspicion is rife that someone or some group is seeking to orchestrate a military coup by provoking instability as homes in remote areas belonging to SLPP farmers are been burnt down systematically. Vigilante groups are being set-up to put to catch the culprits for jankohneekoeing.
7. There has also been one news report written as if it came from a military officer stating that a coup is definitely needed because of the allegedly one-sided support for SLPP nationwide. Two people have reportedly been invited for investigation.
8. The Independence Day SLPP March in Kenema was a huge success.
Thank you for your attention. - JL
Subject: Re: SOUTHERN PROVINCE UPDATE
From: LOW GRADE SAN SAN
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Date Posted: 06:37:44 05/05/07 ()
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. Diaspora would-be PMDC parliamentary candidates are pulling out in droves from the parliamentary contests and returning to their flunkey toilet scrubbing, train-station sweeping, stamp-licking and glue-sniffing basement jobs abroad.
and what about that VOMIT/PENDA LICKING BASELESS FAMILY/POLITICAL REJECT WAE GEH MAMIE SWEH John Leigh? Has he got any constituency to contest AND ANY ONE TO NOMINATE HIM? DID I HEAR YOU SAY BUTCHER!BUTCHER!WHERE IS MY BRIBE MONEY FOR THE CONBENTION?
YOU NOR GEH WAN SHAME EN MAMIE BLESSIN LEIGH THE COMICAL ALIE OF THE SLPP. hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Subject: Re: SOUTHERN PROVINCE UPDATE
From: Nar True
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Date Posted: 06:44:34 05/05/07 ()
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I like your clever depiction of Leigh as the laughably powerless SLPP version of the notoriously powerful Iraqi, Saddam's half brother, CHEMICAL Alie:
"YOU NOR GEH WAN SHAME EN MAMIE BLESSIN LEIGH THE COMICAL ALIE OF THE SLPP."
It is true, though. Only a mn with no mammy blessing will lick his vomit twice (first, at Kabba's feet and then at Berewa's feet, all because he wants to recouop his bribes he had paid to people he had blasted as corupt.
Subject: Re: SOUTHERN PROVINCE UPDATE
From: LOW GRADE SAN SAN
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Date Posted: 07:26:37 05/05/07 ()
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Saddam's half brother, CHEMICAL Alie:
Point of correction my brother, COMICAL ALIE was not CHEMICAL ALIE. Comical Alie was MOHAMED AL SAHAF the then minister of information. Alie Hassan Al Magid was "Chemical Alie" Sadams half brother. He was the GOVERNOR of Basra.
Subject: Re: SOUTHERN PROVINCE UPDATE
From: Jepehlondo
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Date Posted: 19:37:11 05/04/07 ()
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"Please send your donation for this venture to Mr. Raymond Kobba, Chair, Bo District SLPP, 23 Fenton Road, Bo. I am sending my donation AM tomorrow..."
John Leigh, did you ever get your money back? Listen, this time, no one is going to listen to you when you start complaining for not getting any position for your bribe. By the way, who are you going to pronounce fit again Pepe Dr. john Leigh? I understand you used to fight your step mother? Man whats wrong with you? Your step mom is like your mom. dont you know that?
Jepehlondo
Subject: Re: SOUTHERN PROVINCE UPDATE
From: LOW GRADE SAN SAN
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Date Posted: 06:43:55 05/05/07 ()
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Please send your donation for this venture to Mr. Raymond Kobba, Chair, Bo District SLPP, 23 Fenton Road, Bo. I am sending my donation AM tomorrow..."
OH BOY LEIGH THE SWEH POLITICAL SORRY HART. HE IS ALWAYS THE FIRST TO BE USED AND DUMPED.
NAR SO WAE MAN GEH MIND FET EE MAMA THE ALAKI NAR TAY GO.
SWEH OH SWEH LEIGH! GO LEH DEN POUR LIBATION FOR YOU.
Subject: Re: SOUTHERN PROVINCE UPDATE
From: Test
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Date Posted: 23:09:09 05/04/07 ()
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You idiot. Why bring in his parents?
Subject: Re: SOUTHERN PROVINCE UPDATE
From: ALAN BARRY
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Date Posted: 00:59:57 05/05/07 ()
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Shut-up ! The man did not insult craseman Leigh's parent, but simply asked a question. If den cos JL e mama sef, e deserve am. Dis man idle en get krach krach!!!!!
Subject: Re: SOUTHERN PROVINCE UPDATE
From: No Test
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Date Posted: 00:11:10 05/05/07 ()
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You are the idiot for not knowing that it was the scatter-hade John leigh who introduced his own parents discord over his lack of home training in the public discourse.
The evidence is in his We was roobed website. Just check it out before you start calling sober people names that belong to you.
Subject: QUOTE OF THE DAY
From: Beoku Betts
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Date Posted: 15:11:03 05/04/07 ()
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Posted by Independent Observer on May 04, 2007 at 14:59:56:
In Reply to: Re: My beef with Imported Can of Soft Drink $ Parity posted by John E. Leigh on May 04, 2007 at 14:53:12:
"The SLPMB tiff-tiff imported can is wasting your time."
John Leigh: Is that what the corrupt SLPP party leader, President Kabbah, the "The SLPMB tiff-tiff" who the Beoku Betts Commission of Inquiry banned fromn holding any public office in salone for life has been doing to the people of Salone during the past ten years of his tiff-tiff, corrupt misrule of our country?
Subject: Re: QUOTE OF THE DAY
From: OK DOK
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Date Posted: 18:57:18 05/04/07 ()
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I GUESS WE SHOULD FORGET ABOUT THIS SLPMB AFFAIRS NOW.PRE. KABBA HAS COMPLETED HIS TERM.ITS TOO LATE.
Subject: Re: QUOTE OF THE DAY
From: KAMAJOR
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Date Posted: 00:18:57 05/05/07 ()
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we shall not forget about the slpmb tiffman president kabbah. when the special court indicts him, he will find out that it is not too late to bring up the fact that he had been banned from holding public office when he fraudulently prsented himself for election in 1996 and 2002.
Remember, all tem for tiffmam, one day for master ose.
The SLPMB tiff-man kabbah will learn that lesson befiore this year is out -- when he will be a prisoner at the special court. Then the murder of Chief hinga by the SLPP will start being avenged lawfully -- at the speical court that faciliated it.
Subject: Sierra Leone to delay elections
From: BBC NEWS
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Date Posted: 14:00:32 05/04/07 ()
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BBC NEWS
Sierra Leone to delay elections
President Kabbah will not be standing in the election
Sierra Leone has said that it is pushing back the date of presidential and legislative elections by two weeks.
The polls, the first since UN peacekeepers left in 2005, had been scheduled to take place on 28 July.
But electoral officials said that the original date does not allow sufficient time from the dissolving of parliament to organise an election.
The opposition criticised the president's original choice of date, saying it had been "arbitrary".
Test poll
The original date for the elections was named over a year in advance by President Ahmad Tejan Kabbah, who will not be eligible for re-election.
The new date set for elections is 11 August which the electoral commission says will give them enough time to organise the poll, including obtaining all nominations and printing ballot papers.
Parliament will be dissolved on 26 June.
Correspondents say the polls will be a test of whether Sierra Leone is on the road to full recovery from the brutal 10-year civil war, which ended in 2002.
President Kabbah and his Sierra Leone People's Party secured a landslide victory in the May 2002 elections, held with UN peacekeepers still in the country.
Peacekeepers were deployed in 2000 to enforce a ceasefire between the government and the Revolutionary United Front rebel group, but it was only in 2001 that the UN force managed to secure formerly rebel-held areas.
Subject: Annual Progress Report—Sierra-Leone
From: Economist
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Date Posted: 13:45:42 05/04/07 ()
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Annual Progress report 2006
Subject: GIVEN THIS FACT, CAN CHIEF HINGA NORMAN BE CONSIDERED A HERO
From: Dr. CHARLES CURTIS-THOMAS
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Date Posted: 13:33:58 05/04/07 ()
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The AFRC forged a military and political alliance with the RUF, creating the ‘People’s Army’, a band of brutal and systematic violators of human rights. President Kabbah established a War Council in Exile in Guinea, while Deputy Minister of Defence Chief Samuel Hinga Norman mobilised a vast but untrained force of Kamajors to oppose the AFRC military junta..."
(Sierra Leone Truth and Reconciliation Commission Report)
Subject: ELECTIONS POSTPONED TO AUGUST 11
From: NEC
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Date Posted: 13:21:41 05/04/07 ()
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NEC has asked the government for two more weeks for the elections, and it has just been announced in Freetown that the elections will be held on the 11th of August.
Subject: Public Issues - Public Debate - ACADEMIC DEGREES
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 12:17:23 05/04/07 ()
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Forumites: I have sent the e-mail below in response to Atty. Musa's kindness in letting me have a copy of the stance he has taken in a or more discussion groups to which I do not belong. His stance is apparently in respose to a recent posting of mine and which he quoted below as a preface to his views.
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 08:57:14 -0700 (PDT) Dear Atty Musa: Its been quite a while! Glad to hear from you. Thanks for the material below. Its a good read. However, I do not use my e-mail to debate matters of No enrollment is necessary for participation in the Also, you avoid clogging up your e-mail account. And And what is really nice also, you can later access Again, thanks for your review of my interest in the CV Sincerely, > "Doc, if you get the chance to look at EBKoroma's Subject: Some beef with Johnny leigh .ARE ACADEMIC DEGREES THE STAPLE Message: > It would certainly be an embarrassment for this former diplomat to subject Umaru Yar’adua is the first graduate to be undemocratically elected leader of Flight Lieutenant Jerry Rawlings and Alhaji Yahya Jammeh did not sign up at Both Rawlings and Jammeh are more (in stature) than Leigh and those who he Now Mr. Musa, since Leigh has been mostly flapping his wings in Cocorioko it Re: [Leonenet] ARE ACADEMIC DEGREES THE STAPLE FOR LEADERSHIP? I'd very much like to disagree with you about such a tendentious remark said His defeat in the war against corruption, sticks out like your sore thumb - Let me collect myself for a reply: Working by day and by night for over ten ……… The good news: FATOU JAW-MANNEH was released on bail several weeks ago Subject: Re: Some beef with Johnny leigh .ARE ACADEMIC DEGREES THE STAPLE Message: Connie, follow the example set in Moh'm's reply to John on the salone discussion forum -- it did not contain a single reference to leigh. Instead, it discussed only the much more significant issue of the myopia of Salone people in equating education with knowledge, and how that has destroyed Salone. Subject: Re: Some beef with Johnny leigh .ARE ACADEMIC DEGREES THE STAPLE Message: Below is my e-mail to Mr. Hamalberg from whence he got his beef against me. I have also written to Atty. Musa on the same subject. Thank you. - JL ========================================================================================== Education is only one among many criticisms. The If you wish to debate with me, please do your postings Sincerely, > His monotonously boring critique” without let or Subject: Re: Some beef with Johnny leigh .ARE ACADEMIC DEGREES THE STAPLE Message: Subject: Re: Some beef with Johnny leigh .ARE ACADEMIC DEGREES THE STAPLE Message: Also, "JL is not the issue at all. The real issues are the problems and opportunities for national advancement and who among the presidential candidates is best qualified to be our next president." I am not a candidate and do not wish to compare myself with a presidential candidate. Lastly, please do not wear out my patience with more of the same crap. Thank you. - JL Subject: Re: Some beef with Johnny leigh .ARE ACADEMIC DEGREES THE STAPLE Message: Privately, it's addressed to you. You are a political being in the crucible of this respectable Forum. You have enumerated what in your view Mr. Margai's qualities are. Could you be as unabashed in telling us about some of your more probable qualities ( in your own words as you did for Charles Francis)in your own words, in this our anti-terror section of our Cocorioko zone? Please Mr. Leigh? Subject: Re: Some beef with Johnny leigh .ARE ACADEMIC DEGREES THE STAPLE Message: My choice is VP Berewa. I have explained my choice in great detail since May 22, 2006. I have also explained why Maggai and the PMDC are mightily unqualified to lead. I am now working on peggyism and the Old APC. You won't be able to divert me from this target. Thank you. - JL Subject: Re: Some beef with Johnny leigh .ARE ACADEMIC DEGREES THE STAPLE Message: Leigh, stop lying! Your actual statement did not make any reference to anything but education. You wrote: > "Doc, if you get the chance to look at EBKoroma's CV, please check for any indication as to where he obtained either his graduate education or his professional training in insurance. I understand he may have had a scholarship from Sahid Jamil who dispatched him to a neighboring country for his post-BA training. Let's see what institution trained him and the duration." Where, leigh, in the ONLY statements of yours addressed by Mr. John Lansana Musa, which are quoted above, did you talk about other "critisms? Nowhere! Like the corrupt and dishonest charlatan you have shown yourself to be, you are now concocting lies to avoid facing the truth about your unhealthy obsession with the ignorant position that education is determinant of leadership. You, Leigh, are a thoroughly dishonest and corrupt individual. Subject: Re: Some beef with Johnny leigh .ARE ACADEMIC DEGREES THE STAPLE Message: ”Moh’m’s reply to John" I know nothing about, and fortunately I don’t pursue the many threads of discussions going on everywhere, even here the subject could be a perennial pain in the ess.... Have a nice weekend…. Subject: My beef with Berewa Message: Berewa has served in an administration that has served the country for over eight years. This is an administration that has brought about no significant change in the economic welfare of ordinary citizens. Therefore, he bears responsibility for the failures of the government as much has his supporters attribute some of the ‘successes’ of this government to him. He should be held accountable The question is: Should we give him another chance or will either Ernest or Charles do a better job? Subject: Re: My beef with Berewa Message: Subject: Re: My beef with Berewa Message: What suggestions did you put forth through private mail - email or snail mail - to help him govern more effectively if you had this beef with him? Does he know that you had a "beef" with him in this regard? If not, why did you not write and express these concerns of yours to him? Bra, only the Most High, God, is omniscient and omnipotent. So give the man a hand, and stop complaining when you can help him to see your point of view. Subject: Re: My beef with Berewa Message: Again, I am not yet convinced that Ernest or Charles can do a better job. I will first like to see the members of their teams I am just worried that we are about to elect as president someone who has not delivered what he was supposed to have delivered. Subject: Re: My beef with Berewa Message: Sengbe, is Critical Thinker an official of the SL governent in which Berewa is Vice president? If so, please tell us the position you think he holds from which he is required to help the Vice president "serve his function." If not, please apologize to this forum for your latest display of your chronic problem -- your inability to understand anything you read, a seemingly contagious affliction among blind SLPP apologists. Subject: Re: My beef with Berewa Message: It is called PATRIOTISM - something you know nothing about since your days of thieving at the slpmb. A patriot is one who loves, supports, and defends one's country. I thought Critical Thinker was one. Perhaps, I am wrong. I guess he is part of the steady stream of do-nothing complainers in detraction. Privately, I write to folks I know in Pa Kabbah's cabinet all the time, expressing my views in terms of how things should be done in my opinion. Publicly, I communicate with them for effect through this medium and others. What have you done lately for your country, jalloh, beside stealing from it? I will do no such thing as to "apologize" to this forum for the stupid reason you have suggested. I am a diehard loyal member of the SLPP, and I shall remain so, even in death. If you mistakenly call that "blind SLPP apology", that is on you. Not me. You stupid boy. Subject: Re: My beef with Berewa Message: Sengbe, how can you justify this statement without having any evidence. I really don't want to pick a fight but this is absolutely unfair. Besides, and this is true, you don't even know me or what I may or may not be doing to help the country. Clearly, I also have a right to criticize the VP, with evidence on his lack of delivery. Unless of course you believe that donor funds have used as effectively as they should have been used. Then you will have to explain to us why donors are complaining when you believe otherwise. Subject: Re: My beef with Berewa Message: Critical Thinker, what are you doing to help the country? Indeed you "have a right to criticize VP Berewa, with evidence on his lack of delivery". Could you please delineate the evidence for all to read? As far as I know, donor funds have been used quite effectively for the intended purposes, as stipulated by the donors, not the purpose you carve out as an enlightened individual. Show me where it is wriiten that "donors are complaining" when know quite well that their representatives control the disbursement of these so-called donor funds for the purposes earmarked by them? Somebody posted the link to the DACO site. Have you perused it yet? Subject: Re: My beef with Berewa Message: You must know nothing about the corruption of the SLPP. In 2005, every major donor grouping, from the UN to the European Union, to the World bank condemned the SLPP govt. fior its corruption. You must be a blind SLPP apologist because you seem fixated on trying to shield SLPP from the consequences of its massive corruption for which it is notorious all over the world. Subject: Re: My beef with Berewa Message: 2. Nobody is claiming corruption does not exist in Sierra Leone today. Of course it does and has for decades. The difference today is that the SLPP government has undertaken concrete measures gerared towards the eradication of not only corruption, but the causes of corruption. In case you are not aware, let me advise you that, the SLPP governmen has introduced far-reaching reforms and enabling legislation in areas as diverse as institutional capacity, revenue collection, tax collection and enforcement,procurement, public financial management, civil service recruitment and performance, human capital accountability governance, rehabilitation of judiciary and promotion of rule of law, local government capacity building, etc., all of which have helped to enhance macro-economic stability and economic growth. Just as importantly, these reforms have led to improvements in governance, accountability and the fight against corruption. Not everything the SLPP has attempted will work; naturally, there will be mixed results in some areas. Corruption, for one, is proving a tough cookie to crumble, but progress is being made. While the aforementioned reforms have successfully tackled (and are continuing to tackle) the "causes" of corruption, there have been some difficulties on the "enforcement" side of things. In fact, a recent review of the ACC program suggested that it may not be an appropriate vehicle for a post-conflict country like Sierra Leone, recognition that perhaps we are asking for too much at once for a country that was devastated by three decades of misrule and mismanagement and a further decade of a brutal war. The review commended the ongoing reforms for their positive impact on the national anti-corruption strategy, suggesting that continuing the reforms may be the approach to follow if the investigative and prosecutorial capacity of the ACC cannot be significantly strengthened. 3. SLPP Apologist, hyperbole and unsubstantiated asserions do not contribute to serious debate. If the SLPP was "notorious all over the world" for "massive corruption", it could not have won substantial debt forgiveness for Sierra Leone, including significantly all of Paris Club debts, most of which debts were run up by other governments. Now, please do the homework so you can let us know the source of your bold comments. Many thanks Subject: Re: My beef with Berewa Message: If that is true, then why has the SLPP not eradicated itself -- since it is the cause of the escalating corruption in Sierra Leone over the past ten years? You must be an SLPP apologist to imply that you are not aware of the well-publicized fact that the United Nations Secretary general, Kofi Annan, in his May, 2006 report about Sierra Leone to the Security Council clearly stated that escalatintg corruption under the SLPP government of President Tejan kabbah was a major cause of concerns for peace and stability in the country. This information was widely dissemniated by the UN information service, IRIN. Being an SLPP apologist, you would also claim to be ignorant of the fact that in 2005, the World Bank and the IMF rejected debt relief for the people of Sierra Leonea because of the rampant corruption of the SLPP government of the same notorious President Kabbah and Vice Presidnet Solomon Berewa. Indeed, when the IMf and the World Bank granted debt relief to Sierra Leone last year, it did so despite the escalated corruption of the SLPP government -- due to the global pressure for blanket debt reliefto the poorest countries in the world. As you would claim not to know, throughout the corrupt SLPP rule of Kabbah, Sierra leone was ranked the poorest or second poorest in the world. Since all of the above facts are a matter of public knowledge, only a wilful refusal to see would explain your surprising ignorance. It is upon that self-inflicted disability that a case can be validly made against you and your fellow SLPP apologists for being traitors to your country's interest. You rank second only to the shameless beneficiaries of your treason against the people of Sierra Leone -- the globally notorious corrupt duo of President Kabbah and Vice President Berewa -- in culpability for inflicting suffeing on the millions of Sierra leoneans who have been cursed by having during the past 10 years the most corrupt government in Sierra leones's history, namely, kabbah's and Berewa's SLPP government. Subject: Re: My beef with Berewa Message: The SLPP, as a political party, does not get donor funds. These funds are remitted, and disbursed, through the representatives / NGOs, of the donor countries for the proposed programs instituted by the donors and the GoSL for the benefit of the nation, and S/Leoneans, which are implemented under the auspices of the donor representatives in the country. Thus it is impossible for me to be "fixated on trying to shield SLPP from the consequences of its massive corruption". Again the SLPP, as a political party, gets 'dondo' of these so-called donor funds. Please gets your facts right. Nar so so dem say unu day pan. Not facts. Subject: Re: My beef with Berewa Message: Preoof that like you and the fired John leigh have been told, you are nothing but a blind SLPP apologist. The evidence is in your own corrupt words. Subject: Re: My beef with Berewa Message: Would you mind re-wording your statement quoted above? It makes no sense whatsoever as written. Subject: Re: My beef with Berewa Message: Sorry, Sengbe, I do not speak mende. Please ask someone who does to simplify the simple English sentence you predictably have difficulties understanding. Subject: Re: My beef with Berewa Message: Please stick to the issues. For a blind SLPP apologist, it is hard to get used used to the truth. But the truth does not go away merely because you wish to blind yourself to its illuminating and liberating light. So, try to focus on your two choices, assuming you asre capable of redemption. Since you imply that Critical thinker is required to help an incorrigble Vice President Berewa, please answer the question you are running away from: "If so, please tell us the position you think he holds from which he is required to help the Vice president "serve his function." If not, please apologize to this forum for your latest display of your chronic problem -- your inability to understand anything you read, a seemingly contagious affliction among blind SLPP apologists." Subject: Re: My beef with Berewa Message: So, try to focus on your two choices, assuming you asre capable of redemption. Since you imply that Critical thinker is required to help an incorrigble Vice President Berewa, please answer the question you are running away from: "If so, please tell us the position you think he holds from which he is required to help the Vice president "serve his function." If not, please apologize to this forum for your latest display of your chronic problem -- your inability to understand anything you read, a seemingly contagious affliction among blind SLPP apologists." Subject: Re: My beef with Berewa Message: jalloh if u nor lef for ask me for apologize for the party way me want pan me politics ar go begin call u Modibor Woroke again. U stupid boy. Ar nor don ansa you stupid question? Ar nor tell u say da man nor geh for geh gofment position for contribute pan the development of ee yone contri since nar ee patriotic duty, ehn ee qualify for mek dem lissen to ram. How u fool so ba, mordibor woroke? Borterrehmah Buwi!! Ar don don with u. No more response from me to you. Subject: Re: My beef with Imported Can of Soft Drink $ Parity Message: The SLPMB tiff-tiff imported can is wasting your time. Just shut him off and let him go and enjoy his can of imported soft drink so his stolen leones will instantly gain parity with the US dollar. Please understand that there is an over-population of mumbo-tombo-dumbos in this forum. Regards. - JL Subject: Re: My beef with Imported Can of Soft Drink $ Parity Message: The boy too fool. Tiffy-tiffy, jankoliko. Subject: Re: My beef with Imported Can of Soft Drink $ Parity Message: Only blind SLPP supporters will call a man who was fired as ambasador for his lack of sense and rudeness wise. Subject: Re: My beef with Imported Can of Soft Drink $ Parity Message: Subject: Re: My beef with berewa Message: Sengbe, I am not interested in your irrelvant diversions. Whether anyone's ideas are out of wack is irelevant to the question you keep runnign away from. Please stop hiding and face the truth -- answer the question. Subject: Re: My beef with Berewa Message: John Leigh: Is that what the corrupt SLPP party leader, President Kabbah, the "The SLPMB tiff-tiff" who the Beoku Betts Commission of Inquiry banned fromn holding any public office in salone for life has been doing to the people of Salone during the past ten years of his tiff-tiff, corrupt misrule of our country? Subject: Re: My beef with Berewa Message: "Please stick to the issues. For a blind SLPP apologist, it is hard to get used used to the truth. But the truth does not go away merely because you wish to blind yourself to its illuminating and liberating light. So, try to focus on your two choices, assuming you asre capable of redemption. Since you imply that Critical thinker is required to help an incorrigble Vice President Berewa, please answer the question you are running away from: "If so, please tell us the position you think he holds from which he is required to help the Vice president "serve his function." If not, please apologize to this forum for your latest display of your chronic problem -- your inability to understand anything you read, a seemingly contagious affliction among blind SLPP apologists." Subject: Re: My beef with Berewa Message: They ought to meet regularly for consultations after the elections. The swing of the pendelum points due South, the magnetic attraction for now is to the true SLPP, just as in their hearts , the diehard now or never APC compass points due North.... ( true North Subject: WHY HAS SIERRA LEONEAN LEADERS FAILED SIERRA LEONE Message: LEGACY:Something handed down from an ancestor or a predecessor or from the past: NOW ADD POSITIVE TO LEGACY AND AND I WILL SAY THIS IS THE FAILURE OF PAST AND PRESENT LEADERS OF SIERRA LEONE. OUR PAST AND PRESENT LEADERS ARE NOT FOCUS ON WHAT HISTORY WILL SAY ABOUT THEM, THEY DO NOT THINK NATION FIRST AND THEY ARE NOT SELFLESS. IF OUR LEADERS WERE CONSIDERATE, SELFLESS, DISCIPLINE AND SEEK TO LEAVE A POSITIVE LEGACY BY BUILDING A NATION AND DEVELOPING SIERRA LEONE INTO AN INDUSTRIALIZED NATION, SIERRA LEONEANS WILL HAVE HEROES TO LOOK UP TO. TODAY MOST OF OUR LEADERS WHO CLAIM TO BE EDUCATED AND LITERATE ARE MISEDUCATED AND MISDIRECTED. THEY CONTINUE TO LET THE WEST AND EUROPEANS BENEFIT FROM OUR RAW MATERIALS AND OUR LABOR, WHILE THE CITIZENS OF SIERRA LEONE CONTINUE TO SUFFER AND THEY CLAIM WE ARE AN INDEPENDENT NATION. WHAT A LEGACY. ANOTHER FAILURE OF PAST AND PRESENT LEADERS IS TRAINING SUCCESSORS TO CONTINUE BUILDING. THEY BELIEVE IN SECURING THEIR JOBS FOR LIFE BY SUPPRESSING THE YOUTHS, WHAT A GREAT METHODOLOGY FOR FAILURE. I HOPE AND PRAY FOR A SELFLESS LEADER IN SIERRA LEONE. Subject: SLPP has no class Message: Subject: For Mr Leigh again Message: Subject: Re: For Mr Leigh again Message: For your information, Moses died about nine months or so ago in Bo. So, its only Kennie, Fred, Edward and I remaining of the brothers . Margaret and Isatu are ok. Mama now has great, great grandchildren and she is doing great! She saw her last American grandchild in late February During the Hilton Fyle exchanges, I received several e-mail messages and replied to most of them. So several years after that event I can't, unfortunately, be certain which was yours. Please contact me again. - JL Subject: Re: SLPP has no class Message: No wonder the man said you SLPP have no class. begone with your insignificant personal gossip. We are here to discuss issues. Subject: Re: SLPP has no class Message: Subject: Re: DUMBOLOS HAVE NO CLASS Message: Similar exchanges like the one between okdok and I are frequent in this forum. It is the by-product of a well received and well run forum. So why the fuss from you? Why didn't you check the others before us? Why now? Is it because you have nothing big enough with which to damage SLPP? The exchanges below clearly indicate a mutual interest to take this particular conversation private: Okdok: “If you can remember i was the one you personally exchanged an email with when Hilton Fyle was trying to deny his doings at his Radio station. JL: During the Hilton Fyle exchanges, I received several e-mail messages and replied to most of them. So several years after that event I can't, unfortunately, be certain which was yours. Please contact me again. SO GOODBYE. - JL Subject: Re: SLPP has no class Message: Whether y6ou intention is to take your personal chit chat private is irrelevant when you repeatedly subject us to it. It is your actions, therefore, not your alleged intentions, which distress those of us not interested in your banter. Subject: Re: SLPP has no class Message: Subject: Re: SLPP has no class Message: Subject: Re: SLPP has no class Message: Subject: Re: SLPP has no class Message: Please list the alleged 200 handles. Should you fail to do so, I ask that you admit that you are one of the many SLPP apologists who will say anything to hide your your fellow SLPP supporters from the truth about their corruption. Subject: Re: SLPP has no class Message: You can call me whatever you want. The fact remains that people like yourself make no meaningful contribution to this forum. ASll you do is to attack John Leigh. The man says he does not want to be part of the party you support.... NAR BY FUSS??? Subject: Re: SLPP has no class Message: If you wish to be taken seriously, stop running away from your obligation to provide the evidence you failed to provide when you made your allegation. here is the question for the third time: "Please list the alleged 200 handles. Should you fail to do so, I ask that you admit that you are one of the many SLPP apologists who will say anything to hide your your fellow SLPP supporters from the truth about their corruption." Subject: Re: SLPP has no class Message: Subject: Re: SLPP has no class Message: Subject: Re: SLPP has no class Message: Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe For the last time: GOOD BYE...... Subject: Re: SLPP has no class Message: Subject: Re: SLPP has no class Message: Subject: Re: SLPP has no class Message: Subject: Re: SLPP has no class Message: Subject: ARE ACADEMIC DEGREES THE STAPLE FOR LEADERSHIP? Message: --- In SALONEDiscussion@yahoogroups.com, jmusa@... wrote on April 3, 2002: Subject: Re: ARE ACADEMIC DEGREES THE STAPLE FOR LEADERSHIP? Message: Both Moh'm Jalloh and John Musa are clear-thinking writers. They are also patriotic Sierra leoneans who obviously call it as they see it. That is a refreshing change form the blind support for any political party that we see from the unpatriotic blind supporters of the failed SLPP and APC govts here in this forum. Subject: Re: ARE ACADEMIC DEGREES THE STAPLE FOR LEADERSHIP? Message: So why, with all of the intellect of these smart Sierra Leoneans, our governments look to the IMF, wo5rld bank and foreigners -- yes, foreigners, all the time -- for the solutions to Sierra leone's chronic problems? Subject: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: Subject: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: You say you will never again read my contribution on this forum..That is fair enough.I know your type, you think you can bully your way around telling lies and insulting people like Solo B or John Leigh and get away with it... well my friend,this is your Waterloo, you are in the wrong place.On this very good, award-winning forum, we pride ourselves in debating issues.If you are not intelligent enough to do so, then please find somewhere else to vent your shallow mind. Look at your latest posting as an example,You say Berewa is not conpetent and that he is Corrupt. Now, did you actually expect to get away with that crap without a challange? You must be silly. If Berewa is corrupt, then supply the evidence, if you ever want to be taken seriously. We will not allow your type to insult and abuse our leaders gratuitously anymore. We will be onto you like a ton of bricks. Subject: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: The evidence is all over the place. The latest evidence is found in Berewa's flip-flop in first terrorizing the petty traders who were overcrowding the streets of Freetown, only to invite them back. By doinfg so, Berewa engaged in the corrupt act of trading the interest of the people of freetown in having non-overcrowded streets for his selfish interest in seeking to obtaining the votes of the traders for his candidacy. So, Berewa indulged in bribery for his selfish interest at the expense of the far greater interest of the people of Freetown and the nation. That is corruption of the worst kind. And that is your evidence. I am assuming you know what evidence means. Subject: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: Your wiser-than-thou attitude is a big turn-off for many of us, and the reason I generally do not countenance your contributions on this forum and elsewhere. You state and I quote: "...The latest evidence is found in Berewa's flip-flop in first terrorizing the petty traders who were overcrowding the streets of Freetown, only to invite them back..." Was it Berewa's doing, or IG Brima Acha? Who was responsible for the implementation of "operation free-flow"? Who created the policy in the first place? The FCC or the GoSL? And why? On a comparative basis, was this policy in the best interest of the great majority of the citizens of Freetong, or just a privileged few? If a policy is enacted that serves to benefit only a minimum of the population, why would you call it "flip-flopping" if that policy is reversed? Should the majority suffer at the priviledged expense of the minority in a democracy? Are the petty traders not residents of Freetong as well? So how did "Berewa engage[d] in the corrupt act of trading the interest of the people of Freetown in having non-overcrowded streets for his selfish interest in seeking to obtaining the votes of the traders for his candidacy"? Are the petty traders not entitled to earn a living through their chosen enterprises in the absence of formal employment? Should they be inconvinienced in plying their trade when the Peninsula Highway could be used to by-pass them in entering the city of Freetong? Is Berewa not entitled to serve these folks in seeking their votes? And you claim that "Berewa indulged in bribery for his selfish interest at the expense of the far greater interest of the people of Freetown and the nation." You confuse us here. In an environment where there are more petty traders, than folks who own cars to drive on the streets of Freetong, you allege the indulgence in bribery for serving the people in the capacity of his service? You make no sense whatsoever. Have you considered the side benefits of this policy reversal? The fact is that the more the streets are "congested" by these petty traders, the less the amount of environmental pollution generated by these vehicles. In the form of democracy practiced by us in the SLPP, we look out more so for the common man - citizens forming the majority of the population - than the priviledged minority. Subject: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: Subject: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: You are missing the point. Salone has spent the ENTIRE period of SLPP rule at the very bottom of the UNDP index and other indices of human development and welfare. By contrast, that was NOT the case during the APC's rule of Salone. The obvious conclusion you missed is that the SLPP is a MORE corrupt and incompetent party in power than any other government in the history of independent Salone -- despite receiving more money from the ineternational community than all other Salone governments combined. To any objective observer, therefore, it is a proven FACT that the current SLPP govt. of President Ahmad Tejan Kabbah and Vice President Solomom Berewa is absolutely the WORST government in the history of SaLone. Since you do do not know that, that makes you the DUMMY, not the knowledgeable Musa Kamara. And that's a fact, dummy. Subject: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: Subject: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: That clearly makes the incomptent and corrupt SLPP govt. the worst in the history of Sierra leone, as I have already tried to help you understand. Subject: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: Why don't you stop your usual lies and debate for once. Since when in the APC rule/years was sierra leone ever in any confortable position in anything/anywhere? Tell us here and NOW. Too much crap in your pieces. You have a beef with the Party in Power that we know, but quit twisting facts to suit your dumb statements/positions. Subject: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: The answer is clear to all but a blind SLPP apologist: Sierra leone had reliable electricty for homes and factories under APC rule. In fact, I remember back during the APC rule, students at FBC used to demonstrate when there was the rare blackout. Under the SLPP for the past 10 years of kabbahbelewa incompete3nce, students rejoice whenever they see the rare sight of lights coming on at FBC. Subject: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: Subject: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: The only truth in you statement is the length of time the corrupt and incompetent SLPP has been inflicting blackouts, no water, no medicines no jobs and no hope to the people of Siera leone. Perhaps you have never lived in Freetwon. It would explain your ignorance of the much better electicity situation in Freetown during the APC administration, and the total darkness the SLPP plunged a once bright capital city. Or, again, you may just be a blind SLPP apologist who would say anything to avoid holding the incompetent SLPP regime for its worst failures in the hiosroty of Sierrra leone. Subject: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: FREETOWN IS YOUR SALONE! I will not call you names anymore. Subject: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: The reference to Freetown is a natural follw-up to the prior example involving FBC students. That does not mean that "Freetown is Salone." It only means that FBC is in Freetown. Of course, you have to know about Freetown to recognize that FBC is located in Freetown. So your ignorance is understandable. As the saying goes: There is no greater fool than he who knows not that he is a fool! And so it is with you, even though no one who is familiar with your rude, incurable ignorance expects you to realize it. Subject: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: By the way unlike you, i know Freetown, i lived in freetown and went to school in Freetown.( KORTRIGHT FBC between K15- Jusu to K28/29 Dan Foday. How about that. Bringup something else. So your crap about me not knowing freetown is basesless YOU BIG DUMMY Subject: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: The only thing you have proved you know is how to insult those trying to help you understand the simplest matters. Subject: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: You are making up stuff and you do not think you should be held accountable and or responsible. " You do not know Freetown", "You are Dumb".etc etc. You meet you matches box. Subject: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: The answer is yes, because those conclusions logically follow from your demonstrated ignorance of the fact that a discussion of the black out imposed onb FBC for the last 10 years by the worst govt. in Salone's history -- the SLPP -- will reference only Freetown. i invite you to show similar logical reasoning, assuming you know what that means as much as you know how to try to divert from the issues and how to make threats and how to insult instead of debate. Subject: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: use all the HANDLES IN THE WORLD we will still tell it you. Subject: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: Crating other diversions will not make the question go away. Subject: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: Where in this statement is "FREETOWN ONLY"? Subject: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: You will find it in the appropriate sentence which referred ONLy to the example of a lack of electricity at FBC. Do you now see why you desperately need someone to translate my English sentences into a language you can understand? Subject: Re: WRITE OFF FLUNKEYS, PLEASE! Message: Write of 'dem flunkeys', please. I do not even open up their postings - let alone read them! Thank you. - JL Subject: Re: WRITE OFF FLUNKEYS, PLEASE! Message: Subject: Re: WRITE OFF FLUNKEYS, PLEASE! Message: Subject: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: Leigh, is that what you said to Berewa after he had disgraced you at the mekeni SLPP conbention? Or is it what you said to the Berewa's SLPP boss, President "SLPMB Tiff-tiff" Kabbah when he firee you as ambassador after you had bribed him $10,000 to give you a job you were not qualified for? Please answer the above questions truthfully, for a change. Subject: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: Subject: Re: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: Subject: Re: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: Sengbe: Is that what the corrupt SLPP presidential candidate Berewa told the SLPMB TIFFMAN President Kabbah, who was banned by the Beoku betts from aholding any public office in Salone, when Kabbah told Berewa to stop stealing donor funds and diverting them to his corrupt campaign? I hear that Berewa also said that Kabbah learnt how to steal SLPMB money from the SLPP leaders in 1967, invcluding one RBS KOker. Is that Koker related to you? Subject: Re: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: Is your own father related to you? Subject: Re: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: Please have someone explain the meaning of father to you, so you can finally understand your chronic inability to understand anything you read -- or write. So you think RBS Koker of SLPMB is your father? I never said that, actually. I merely asked if he was related to you. Of course, you have to understand English to know the difference between my question and the one you "understood." Subject: Re: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: Ar don don with u. Subject: Re: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: Subject: Re: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: Subject: Re: WRITE OFF FLUNKEYS, PLEASE! Message: So APC is debating with you and your fellow blind SLPP apologists? Leigh: As was told to one of your fellow blind SLPPers, rudeness is not a substitute for reason. Moreover, even though you do not know it, your participation in a debate is not a good thing -- except to those like you who relish wallowing in isnults and name calling. So, stop fooling yourself that you are of any consequence -- you are not. Even your SLPP leaders whom you bribed for a job rejected your rude company. That's why President Kabbah fired you as ambassador to the USA, despite your bribe of $10,000. So, go away with your pathological self-delusions of grandeur. They are pure illusions in the idle mind of a self-deceving has been. Subject: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: Subject: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: If you have any evidence to show that to be not the case, please present it to support your allegation. As for your opinion that "At least Sierra Leone is on the list" it shows more than anything else the depth of your ignorance of the nature of that list. Most disturbing, its shows that you lack any understanding of the significance of Sierra leone being the worst or second worst country in the world under each and every year of the 10-year misrule of the most corrupt and incompetent government in the hisroty of Sietrra leonea, as someone said -- kabbah's berewa's SLPP. Subject: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: Subject: Re: CURRICULUM VITAE-FOR BEREWA Mr Alieu Sesay Message: Subject: MR.CADMUS-CONTROL YOUR RUDE MANNERS Message: Subject: Re: MR.CADMUS-CONTROL YOUR RUDE MANNERS Message: Subject: Re: MR.CADMUS-CONTROL YOUR RUDE MANNERS Message: 2. I have no recollection ever of Alieu challanging me to a Legal Debate on this Forum.We have had our dicussions at various times,over various subject-matters, but me, run-away? You must be kidding. If I had a proper Legal Debate on this forun with Alieu, you probably will not undersatnd what we may be talking about anyway, so please let us stay with the Politics, where everyones openion is valued in a democratic Sa Lone. For everyones sake, please get your facts right next time. Subject: Re: MR.CADMUS-CONTROL YOUR RUDE MANNERS Message: SPECIALIZATION!CADMUS,not everybody can be a so call liar like you.That is why some of US stayed as FLUNKY FORM FOUR STUDENT with HIGH PAYING JOBS. Subject: Re: MR.CADMUS-CONTROL YOUR RUDE MANNERS Message: CADMUS: you are a liar. You have run away many times when your ignorance of the law is exposed here. Heck, just a wek ago, you ran away when JUDGE exposed your ignorance of the law of torts -- after you had exposed your ignorance of the meaning of "misprepresents." Subject: John Leigh tries to distort history Message: Subject: John Leigh is a Genius of Idleness Message: Subject: Re: John Leigh is a Genius of Idleness Message: From my experience, and to my mind, you will agree with me that John Leigh never stars any of these debates on this forum. He is usually attacked, insulted or abused without justification... What do you expect him to do, or put it another way, what would you do if someone gratuitously stat insulting and abusing you....to be honest, you will reply, and that is precisely what John Leigh does. He replies. Can I just put the record straight, I am not defending John Leigh, God knows he is more than capable of doing that hiself.He has taken on most people on this forum wiped the floor with them and disposed of them. Subject: Re: John Leigh is a Genius of Idleness Message: Your opinion is not important to me. I spend my time, energy and resources the way I deem fit, regardless of your views and/or advice. If you do not have enough time, etc. to pay attention to a once-in-fiveyears' event, don't blame me for the poor planning of your own life. I pick-and-choose what and when to attend to in this forum or elsewhere. I am free to do as I please. I can't say the same for you and many others. Subject: Re: John Leigh is a Genius of Idleness Message: Subject: Re: Dr. Fanusie is a Genius of Trash Talk Message: Subject: Re: Dr. Fanusie is a Genius of Trash Talk Message: Subject: Re: John Leigh is a Genius of Idleness Message: We know. Your rudeness in the service of the corrupt SLPP is ample evidence that you do not respect the opinions of more informed others and the rules of polite society. Subject: Two Categories: democratically and undemocratically elected Message: Expect slight changes in govt personnel —Yar'Adua * AC to Yar'Adua: ‘You don't have Nigerians' mandate’ ABUJA — PRESIDENT-ELECT, Alhaji Umaru Yar’Adua, says only “slight changes” in personnel should be expected in government post-May 29, 2007. He said at a meeting of the Honorary International Investors Council (HIIC) at the Presidential Villa, Abuja, yesterday, that the government he planned to run would not derail from the policies and programmes of the out-going Obasanjo administration. EU DELEGATION VISITS YAR'ADUA: Subject: BEST REBUTTAL OF THE DAY Message: In Reply to: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? posted by Sengbe on May 03, 2007 at 21:08:38: "I don't care what anyone states to the contrary, there is a direct relationship between the level of eucational exposure and effective leadership." Sengbe, clearly, you have demonstrated that you are one of the numerous exceptions to that "wisdom." Subject: for mr John Leigh Message: Subject: Re: for mr John Leigh Message: Subject: The genesis of "peggyism" in the new APC leader Message: Here goes: Subject: Re: TRC report restores Sierra leone's art of greatness Message: Hezbollah? To finance their struggle against Israel through the cheap acquisition of "our" diamonds, and other natural resources, as Jamil Sahid did under Pa Shaki. And Walid Jumblatt. You want more names? Basma, and Mackie. You still want more names? Jamil's family still owns RITCORP Insurance Co. in Sa Lon. Guess who runs that insurance company now as a proxy? You've got it: Ernest Bai Koroma, the apc presidential flagbearer. If Ernest becomes president of Sa Lon (and may the good Lord forbid this from ever happening), guess who would have free reign over our DIAMONDS and other natural resources: The LEBANESE CONNECTION in the Sa Lon community. Do you all see the connections? Let me summarize them for you, starting with Jamil Sahid's APC of Pa Shaki: Pa Shaki's apc was (fiduciarily)dominated by the Lebanese, with Jamil serving as the main proxy, (enti nar Afro-Lebanese - born of a Temne woman) through his various business interests, that were / are many and varied, including RITCORP Insurance Company. Pa Shaki mojuba to Jamil tay tay Momoh cam in line. Momoh try for tell Jamil say nar ihm (Pa Momoh) nar the bossman nar the contri. Jamil baranta. Momoh ehn ee EKUTAY nor gree. Dem wan more of the cut. Jamil nor gree, so dem (Pa Momoh, ehn Ekutay) put more pressure pan Jamil for lef the contri. Dem hol up some of Jamil ee money, in the millions of pound-sterling ehn dollars. Jamil ask Nabi Berri wae nar Sa Lon Lebanese by birth for Lebanese citizenship in his capacity as the Speaker of the Lebanese Parliament. So Jamil become citizen of Lebanon. Nar da passport dae ee take go England. Please understand that Nabi Berri (wae born nar Sa Lon) is the main proxy for the Syrians in Lebanon. Whatever the Assad man tell ahm for do, nar dat ee day do. Nar dat enable the Syrian dem for occupy Lebanon for so long (almost 30 years). Wusai dem dae pull the korpor for maintain da presence day? Sa Lon DIAMONDS ehn other natural resources, which dem control through the APC. U want more revelations? Well, enti u know say Strasser ehn ee NPRC bin overthrow Pa Momoh ee APC? Well dem start fine, but greed, imaturity, stupidity, ehn jamba ehn cocaine cam into play, so demsef fall under the diamond curse way the Lebanese, Syrians, Indians, Israelis, ehn Pakistanis put pan we contri. Nar da curse day Foday ehn ee ruf, and JPK ehn ee AFRC fordom pan. But dem yone, dem bring in al Qaeda. Uncle Sam say NO! NO! unar don passmark. So Uncle Sam hep ECOMOG ehn mi Brothers dem for uproot them from State House. Sir Dingo cam back, but ee begin cuddle the Iranians dem, so Tony ehn George gee ahm ultimatum for watch ee ways, or else. Ee turn to Libya for hep. Ghadaffi say okay. Tony ehn George retaliate by funding we fledgling democracy indirectly through third parties becus dem nor wan for lef SaLonBla out in the cold, especially after the brutal war wae dem help wage with den blen yeye..." Bra John, you may take over from here, if you'd like. Subject: Re: The genesis of "peggyism" in the new APC leader Message: Thank you very much. Your analysis is very close to the firsthand knowledge in my possession. I am working on the Old APC stuff which is not positive stuff at all. Subject: Re: The genesis of "peggyism" in the new APC leader Message: Subject: Re: The genesis of "peggyism" in the new APC leader Message: Answer the question. ”New Blood”,” young blood” ” Youths!” – a new generation of the APC platform against corruption and the APC motto, of determination and resolute strength: “Now or Never, forward ever, backward never!” Subject: Re: The genesis of "peggyism" in the new APC leader Message: 1. You have been away for so long, and this long posting too, has been a long time in the coming. I have not got beyond your preamble for re-posting. I read up to “here goes”: I too remember the dark old days of Albert Margai……… 2. But why should we –at all - proceed with the rest of your article which goes back to those over-dimensionalized APC days which you make sink into insignificance compared to the destruction waged by the civil war- for which they were not responsible – and there’s no point in wanting to go all over this one more time when new APC men and women are pointing in the forward direction? (By the way is Omrie Golley a material witness in the Charles Taylor case?) 3. Let us establish at the outset that individual persons of the SLPP , the SLPP as the government of today has established strong ties and close connections with the Lebanese community even on the verge of granting citizenship rights barring the presidency only. Subject: Re: The genesis of "peggyism" in the new APC leader Message: 1. You have been away for so long, and this long posting too, has been a long time in the coming. I have not got beyond your preamble for re-posting. I read up to “here goes”: I too remember the dark old days of Albert Margai……… 2. But why should we –at all - proceed with the rest of your article which goes back to those over-dimensionalized APC days which you make sink into insignificance compared to the destruction waged by the civil war- for which they were not responsible – and there’s no point in wanting to go all over this one more time when new APC men and women are pointing in the forward direction? (By the way is Omrie Golley a material witness in the Charles Taylor case?) 3. Let us establish at the outset that individual persons of the SLPP , the SLPP as the government of today has established strong ties and close connections with the Lebanese community even granting citizenship rights barring the presidency only. Subject: Re: The genesis of "peggyism" in the new APC leader Message: Bra Cornie, I entitled the piece as "The genesis of 'peggyism' in the new APC leader" - meaning that my desire is to give a historical perspective of such "peggyism" in terms of his indebtedness to the Jamil Sayid family, and the extended "family" of the latter. It is this historical perspective that is the driving force behind the re-posting of that article, so, indeed, there is a point "in wanting to go all over this one more time". How did such "peggyism" start? is the question I am addressing here. No refutations of the facts in that article have been forthcoming. Do you know why? "[T]he new APC men and women are [only] pointing in the forward direction" nominally, and not actually,so that they can con our peoples into voting for them on 07/28/07. They have no genuine desire or intentions of upholding their avowed "new directions". They will state anything enticing to the populace for their election, and once elected, it is "deja vu all over again", as Yogi Berra would state. I do not trust them (the 'new' apc leaders) at all. It is in their political blood, so to speak, to be dishonest at all times. Once bitten, twice shy, as the saying goes. I do not want the peoples of Sa Lon to experience that bad political "blood" anymore. Do you? Look at what the APCerians did last Saturday (stone-throwing, heaping mammy-cuss / vulgarities, and 'chuking' peaceful SLPPers with knives), during the "SLPP's miilion people march" in the rally held in Freetong? Brings back very bad memories of their 26-year misrule. I hope they don't try that shit again!! Did our people (SLPPers) do that to them during their rally two, or three, weeks ago? Heck NO!! We allowed them to express their democratic rights with impunity. We ensured that their rally was very peaceful. We say; "never again" will the wool be pulled over our collective political eyes in na we Sa Lon. If you "remember the dark old days of Albert Margai", as you have indicated, please, by all means, spill the beans. You can only hurt the PMDCians, in the mode of "like father, like son", not my party, the SLPP. So, please go ahead with your revelations, if you have any. I have nothing against the Lebanese community in Sa Lon, per se, and I am glad that the SLPP has advanced the cause of "granting [them] citizenship rights barring the presidency only." Does this mean that the political history of Sa Lon should be distorted? I don't think so. I don't know if Omrie Golley will serve as a material witness in the Charles Taylor case, and I don't care, for I do NOT like ruf maggots. I only know that the Cokehead is going down if justice is really the business of this un-special court. Subject: Re: The genesis of "peggyism" in the new APC leader Message: Here's Hon.Ernest Bai Koroma spelling it loud and clear for you to hear on CNN: “From East Africa, we head west to Sierra-Leone, where the campaign for next year's presidential election is already gearing up. July's election will be the first since the United Nations peacekeepers elect last year. It's seen by many as a test of the country's ability to keep a lasting peace. The former British colony emerged from a decade of civil war in 2002, but the country is still facing problems of poverty, tribal rivalry and allegations of government corruption. So, we spoke to two of the top presidential candidates. We'll hear from Vice President Solomon Ekuma Berewa in just a moment, but first Jim Clancy caught up with opposition leader Ernest Bai Koroma of the All People's Congress earlier this year. Jim Clancy asked him what topped his agenda. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) ERNEST BAI KOROMA, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The number one issue, I believe, will be corruption. And the people of Sierra-Leone are looking forward to a government that will put up a strong fight against corruption, a government that will be more accountable to the people, and a government that will open up and allow Sierra-Leonians to have equal opportunities irrespective of your political convention. JIM CLANCY, CNN CORRRESPONDENT: That's a very general assignment. Dissatisfaction with the government of President Ahmad Tejan Kabbah. At the same time, what are you offering the people? Their concerns are education, their concerns are jobs, their concerns are putting food on their tables and having a roof over their heads. KOROMA: What I believe I will offer to the people of Sierra-Leone is, in the first place, I will come with a real policy of zero tolerance against corruption. If this message goes out and clearly to the Sierra- Leonians, that this is the government that is going to put up a serious fight against corruption, I'm sure the leakages that are responsible for the poor delivery services in the social sector, like education, health and employment situation will be turned around. (END VIDEO CLIP) OKE: And that was Sierra-Leone's opposition leader Ernest Bai Koroma speaking there. Now, I caught up with his opponent earlier this week. Here is what the vice president of Sierra-Leone and presidential candidate Solomon Ekuma Berewa had to say to Koroma's allegations of corruption. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) SOLOMON EKUMA BEREWA, SIERRA LEONE VICE PRESIDENT: When the APC or APC leader talks of corruption, it's very ridiculous. Because they institutionalized corruption. It was they who made corruption a way of life. (inaudible) were granted (inaudible), because they were very corrupt, and nobody was allowed to talk about it, nobody was allowed to say anything, because they were corrupt. It is (inaudible). Let us come and show them that corruption is not the right way to run the government. OKE: Mr. Vice President, what is the greatest challenge facing Sierra-Leone today? BEREWA: Well, the greatest challenge is this: Now that we've tried to bring stability to the country, peace, we thank God for that, we thank the international community for that. The next thing we are now going for is to find ways to improve the lot for the average Sierra-Leonian, to reduce the level of poverty that (inaudible) country. It will take a lot of measures to achieve that. You don't have the time now for me to go through that. The next challenge we have is to restore the dignity of the Sierra-Leonian, which was really impaired over the 27 years of misrule and mismanagement by an undemocratic, autocratic government. These are the challenges we have.” (END VIDEOTAPE) OKE: And that was the vice president of Sierra-Leone speaking to me earlier on this week. “ Subject: Re: The genesis of "peggyism" in the new APC leader Message: Bra Cornie in those ten years we have discussed and debated many issues regarding Sa Lon, Africa, US, UK, the world, etc, etc. So, you see, I am not trying to avoid the topic, or to be silent on the matter. We have discussed this topic ad infinitum on-line in the cyberspaces provided to us over the years. I try to avoid repetitiveness if possible. But clearly, your request warrants that I must declare my stance on this scourge once more. Corruption is endemic in most societies, but especially in ours, so I am going to localize the discourse relative to this topic to our indigenous society in Sa Lon. Let us look at corruption from the viewpoint of GREED and endemic POVERTY firstly. We shall then proceed to rationalize / discuss it in terms of why it is so prevalent in Sa Lon from a cultural viewpoint through the lenses of the EXTENDED FAMILY, the LACK of ADEQUATE REMUNERATION for services rendered, and the factors involved in keeping up with the Joneses and surpassing them socially, financially, in order to sue for bragging rights - BIGMANISM. Included in the social aspect of corruption, is the desire to satisfy multi-faceted amourous relationships (shaking wase nar bigman palour) - the desire to IMPRESS others in the local community and the country, as a whole. Lastly, we shall try to offer ideas about how it should be curbed. GREED, EXTREME POVERTY, and INADEQUATE REMUNERATION THE EXTENDED FAMILY BIGMANISM and the NEED to IMPRESS HOW TO CURB THE SCOURGE OF CORRUPTION On another note, the SLPP-led GoSL under the 'able' leadership of HE Pa Kabbah has been accused of being profoundly corrupt by detractors. However, no tangible evidence has been provided to substantiate this allegation / claim. The circumstantial pieces of evidence proffered so far cannot stand the test of any legal system in the world, so I will not dwell on "false" allegations. At least HE Pa Kabbah identified the problem of corruption and sought help to do away with it through the ACC. This is more than I can state about the Akarta Peoples Congress, and the Pikin Margai Don Crase Party. Bra Cornie, please allow me to stop so far. I have other obligations to attend to. Subject: Re: The genesis of "peggyism" in the new APC leader Message: Here (in this country) a head can lose a war against corruption and be laughing about it even in his deep sleep. He can afford to lose the war against corruption and not only go unscathed, but even increase their salaries and retirement benefits, plus immunity from prosecution for crimes committed whilst in office, if that bill gets through. “ I'll walk to the depths of the deepest black forest, From “A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall,” by Bob Dylan http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/hardrain.html But in a democracy in which everyone’s counted, Corruption is not a major problem in this country. But in a democracy, (just as Rafsanjani is now challenging Ahmadinejad) so too in this country, this can happen Subject: Re: The genesis of "peggyism" in the new APC leader Message: "Where the pellets of poison are flooding their waters" as they do to our brothers Rivers in the dramas of John Pepper Clark's Niger Delta. Well most people write poetry about Ken Saro-Wira but Asari Dokubo? Subject: Re: The genesis of "peggyism" in the new APC leader Message: Tobrah? Subject: Re: The genesis of "peggyism" in the new APC leader Message: Here (in this country) ahead can lose a war against corruption and be laughing in his sleep about it. He can afford to lose the war in corruption and not only go unscathed, but even increase of salary and retirement benefits, plus immunity o from prosecution for crimes committed whilst in office, if that bill gets through. “ I'll walk to the depths of the deepest black forest, From “A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall,” by Bob Dylan http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/hardrain.html Corruption is not a major problem in this country. But in a democracy, (just as Rafsanjani is now challenging Ahmadinejad) so too in this country, this can happen Subject: Re: The genesis of "peggyism" in the new APC leader Message: Of course things like this cannot happen in a Zambian Court, but in a British Court the judiciary is not in Tony Blair’s pocket. Subject: Re: The genesis of "peggyism" in the new APC leader Message: We notice a new and much more focused and humble Sengbe, among us. It is the SLPP party leaders and the commander-in-chief that have spoken but not really taken their gloves off to wage war on corruption....they could do a lot more. Like Umaru Yar'adua, they could for example declare their personal assets, before the next election. Subject: Re: The genesis of "peggyism" in the new APC leader Message: You are slightly out of balance here: Subject: Re: The genesis of "peggyism" in the new APC leader Message: Answer the question. ”New Blood”,” young blood” ” Youths!” – a new generation of the APC platform against corruption and the APC motto, of determination and resolute strength: “Now or Never, forward ever, backward never!” Subject: HARDSHIP SOARING! Message: ANALYST NEWSPAPER HARDSHIP SOARING! Now the situation seems insurmountable despite the programs and policies being put into place by the present administration, pushing the population more and more to the edge of socio-economic exasperation. The sign is on the wall that hardship is soaring. The lingering question in the wake of recent sanctions and concessionary breakthroughs is “Will the recently approved Mittal Steel Agreement and the lifting of the ban on diamonds make any difference?” Life in the City of Monrovia is reportedly becoming unbearable, let alone to talk about the rest of the country, observers have said. According to them, some citizens are finding it extremely tetchy to make ends meet on a daily basis and that there is general apprehension that the situation will change for the better unless the national government takes appropriate, proactive steps to remedy the situation. Or unless government reexamined the program and make critical adjustments. In their estimation, the standard of living for ordinary Liberians has been declining since the administration of Charles Taylor and continued through the transitional administration of Gyude Bryant to date. During his last visit to Liberia, now embattled World Bank President Paul Wolfolwitz did not miss on the falling standards of living in Liberia. He noted that said Liberians were living on 30 cent per day, the worst ever in the country’s history. Wolfowitz’s statement may have raised the plights of ordinary Liberians to world attention, but it did practically nothing, according to observers, to alleviate the falling standards of Liberians. With unemployment 85% and soaring and the US-to-Liberian-dollar rate ever spiraling upward despite government’s efforts, there seems no immediate end to the hardship Liberians have to endure, said one analyst. In a recent The Analyst opinion sampling most Liberians blamed the current trend of living on unavailability of jobs and uncontrollable prices of basic commodities and consumer goods on government’s inability to find appropriate remedy to the hardship market forces add to the frustration of unemployed Liberians. According to those who claimed the problem is due to the hike in prices of consumable goods on the market, such as rice. The prices of the 50kg bags of the various grades of rice on the Liberian market vary, ranging from US$22 - $23 or more. This is to say nothing about arbitrary price hiking by unscrupulous merchants who take advantage of sometimes artificially created commodity scarcity and consumer choice to enrich themselves. There is information that the rice brand called “Butter Rice”, which is preferred by ordinary Liberians for its high nutritional value and low metabolic rate, sells for up to US$40 or 2,400. At the current U.S. exchange rate of L$60 to 1, the variation and artificial hiking amounts to L$1,380 or more per 50 or 45kg bag of rice for the average working family that earn US$30.00 per month, if one follows government’s recent wage rise. This high cost of the nation’s staple diet, added to rental, medical and other bills, school fees, and other food items, the saying amongst Liberian workers that “my take home pay can’t take me home” becomes resounding and graphic of the rising desperation. Many blamed the Commerce Ministry, the agency of government responsible for price regulation for the problems. According to them, the authorities of the ministry are reticent on the issue of prices for reasons yet unexplained. John Suku, a resident of the Freeport Community on Bushrod Island and rice dealer, told our reporter that the ministry is aware of the problem but is not putting its foot down to correct it. Suku failed to say why the Ministry was acting lukewarmly on the issue of price regulation, especially with the nation’s staple food, rice, but noted, “It might have been that the government lost focus in this direction and is contemplating on other nonessential things.” He argued that the problem could be corrected provided those charged with the responsibility act properly, timely, and in accordance with the need of the Liberian people instead of acting theoretically to satisfy some external expectations. Suku is worried that the rising cost of living may exacerbate dishonesty within the Liberian working and non-working classes thereby leading to the upsurge of corruption in the private sector and government ministries and agencies. If that happens, he said, it would be an antithesis to government’s current effort to wipe out the culture of corruption and the culture of impunity that fuels it. “I feel for the brothers and sisters who are not doing anything at all. How are they making ends meet?” he wondered. His view is being shared by rice dealer, Beatrice Bortu of Sayon Town who also put the problem at the feet of the government. Although she praised President Johnson-Sirleaf for the strides she is making to give Liberia an international honor, she urged the government to pay attention mostly to domestic issues because according to her, they have the propensity to undercut her efforts and dampen the focus of her government. “I'm one of those who buys rice from importers. I don't understand what is obtaining because I, at times, purchase at fluctuating prices, to my displeasure,” she said, adding that the Ministry of Commerce needed to take bold steps against those who are violating its price control regulations. While many respondents blamed rising prices and the ever-fluctuating rate of Liberian to US$ others say the taxes and tariffs government put on threshold import commodities contributed largely to the rising cost of living. They gave no figures, but indicated that the cost of storage, inspection, and certification impacted negatively on the end prices consumers have to pay. “Government needs tax dollar to function, but it also needs to hold down inflation in order to get the support of the citizens and consumers in general. So it has to cast a delicate balance between the two. Between handsome revenue and amendable citizens,” said economic commentator Jeremiah S. Pouleh. According to Pouleh, the bases of some tariff and taxes were found wanting and therefore the tax structure needed reexamination for adjustment and appropriation if the rising cost of living is to be ameliorated. One businessman who prayed to remain anonymous told this paper yesterday that as long as the government imposed huge taxes on their businesses, they would pass the extra charges to the consumers. “That is the only option opened to us as businessmen and foreigners in this country. And it is normal business practice,” he said. He then added, “We are not realizing profit from these sales. It is just the amount used to purchase the goods that we realize at the end of the day. You know we too have resident taxes to pay to government in addition to salaries for our employees.” Vendors and middle traders told our reporter also that the too many taxes they were paying to government to import and clear their goods was contributing to the high cause of living in the country. According to them, unless the government can make some adjustments in taxes, the situation may increase and life may become more uncomfortable than it is now a day. Meanwhile, on yesterday’s edition of Sky FM’s Phone-In show, “50-50”, most Liberians criticized the government for the level of hardship confronting the country, claiming that even though it was virtually doing nothing to alleviate the suffering of the people, it brags of making strides. The talk show focused on whether there would b any difference in the country in the wake of the approval of the Mittal Steel Agreement and the lifting of sanctions on diamond by the United Nations Security Council. Appalled by the level of dehumanizing conditions, the callers argued that the situation may not improve despite the coming into effects of the two Mittal and the lifting of the sanctions. Some based their contention against the backdrop that no single investor has ever expressed interest in the timber industry since the UN lifted the ban on timbers several months ago. Apart from Mittal Steel, which is already on the grounds, they feared the apparent fencing-sitting would continue. Some callers though believed the signing of the Mittal Agreement would have no immediate impact on the current citizens’ desperation, while others say disagreed, insisting that with some 3000 Liberians expected to get immediate employment, the situation is expected to change dramatically. Presidential Press Secretary Cyrus Badio told EM correspondents Monday that the agreement in itself will not automatically end the problems at hand, though he did not rule out its employment benefits. Subject: Re: CHARLES TAYLOR'S DAMAGE! Message: It will take time, patience, skill, understanding, and international assistance, etc. to normalize the situation in Liberia and Sierra Leone. In the meantime, I would like to see more communication and cooperation between the governments of Liberia & SLeone. Taylor's damage upon our countries was monumental! - JL Subject: HARDSHIP SOARING! Message: Substitute Tejan Kabbah & Co for Charles Taylor in the above sentence (and remove the hyperbolic comparison to the slave trade) and what do you have? A accurate (but ungrammatical) descr1ption of the devasatation inflicted by the corrupt and incompetent SLPP regime of Kabbah and Berewa on tghe people of Sa Lon. Subject: Re: CHARLES TAYLOR'S DAMAGE! Message: Subject: Sierra Leoneans hope to follow the Bahamas trend Message: Results broadcast on state TV had the Free National Movement winning 23 seats in the 41-seat legislature. The party is led by former prime minister Hubert Ingraham. The party of Prime Minister Perry Christie, who has called his rival to concede defeat, claimed 18 seats, the Bahamas Broadcasting Corporation said. The government of Mr Christie, which won a landslide victory in 2002, had been under fire in recent months on a number of issues, including the alleged fast-tracking of the residence permit of the now deceased American model Anna Nicole Smith. "The people of the Bahamas have spoken," Mr Ingraham said as he addressed thousands of cheering supporters, dressed in his party's trademark red, in the capital Nassau. "We will devote all of our energies to the continued development of our nation in every respect - economic, political, social and cultural," Mr Ingraham said. "We ask our political opponents and all Bahamians to join us in this endeavour." Residency law Ousted leader, Mr Christie, had campaigned for a second term by highlighting the $20bn in outside investment and tourism projects which were pumped into the nation of 700 islands during his time in office. However, Mr Ingraham had successfully argued that too much had been done to accommodate foreign investors, saying that it would be preferable for land to be leased rather than sold to non-Bahamians: "They simply sign on to just about any outrageous proposal that winds up in the inbox on their desks," he said of the government at a recent campaign rally. "Once the land is sold, it's gone." Mr Ingraham also said that he would consider scrapping a law which affords foreigners residency if they buy a home in the country. It follows on from a row over the residency application by the late Playboy model and actress Anna Nicole Smith. Immigration minister Shane Gibson was forced to quit amid reports that he had fast-tracked Smith's application for residency. Mr Gibson apologised for any embarrassment he may have caused the country but denied any wrong-doing. Subject: GENUINE FLIP-FLOPPINGS Message: Repeatedly inviting applications for the party’s Running-mate position from PMDC party loyalists, receiving the said invited applications and announcing the number of applications received as well as the names of the interested applicants, promising to forward the names to the Party’s Northern Manager for a so-called evaluation then turning about-face U-turn and selected instead someone not only unknown as a PMDC member but is in fact an M P from the governing party long targeted by the PMDC for ouster. Repeatedly labeling Fullahs, Mandingos and Sosos as foreigners who have no right whatsoever to vote in SLeone and having the PMDC mount a widespread, systematic and most annoying voter registration challenge against Fullahs, Mandingos and Sosos, then suddenly doing a U-turn about-face-turn and selecting a Fullah as the PMDC running mate. Repeatedly proclaiming PMDC’S democratic credentials, repeatedly promising to consult with others in the PMDC when choosing a running mate and pretending to consult by faking an applications review process, but instead took a U-turn and suddenly, secretly and single-handedly made the running mate selection. Fooled PMDC loyalist that they will be treated fairly and with respect then double-crossed them in a flash. Alleging that SLPP is a bad organization then goes on to rely on corrupt practices to fight SLPP such as secretly establishing a one-manic, selfish, ownership political party and surrounding himself with crookish types, junior tribalists, dumbos, foolumunkus, flunkeys, etc. and using directly and/or indirectly crookish methods in a failed attempt to get ahead such as double-cross, lies, deceit, deception, duplicity, bombastic trash; wild, untrue allegations, cuss, insults, vulgarisms, multiple moniker abuse, moniker theft, impersonation, flim-flam, flunky dunce argumentation and repeated stupidities. Hip-hopping from SLPP to PNP! From PNP to re-admitted to SLPP! From SLPP to APC! From APC to SLPP! From SLPP to NUP! From NUP re-re-admitted to SLPP after begging for re-admission! From SLPP back to NUP begging for re-re-admission to NUP just so he could claim a parliamentary seat upon a cabinet reshuffling but failed to gain the demanded seat! From NUP re-re-re-re admitted back to the SLPP after he begged, lay-bellehed and held Kabbah’s feet in prostration! Re-re-re-re-admitted into SLPP and later appointed Minister of Internal Affairs but exploited position to award Government contracts to family members then demanded 2002 running mate position upon threat of resignation. Fired instead! Resigned from SLPP once again! Begged for re-re-re-re-re-re-admission and re-re-re-re-re-admitted March 2005! In September 2005 re-resigned from SLPP and organized PMDC for himself and other foolumunku opportunists and crookish types to fool the public that his is the genuine Third Force political party when it was not. Subject: Re: GENUINE FLIP-FLOPPINGS Message: Subject: Re: GENUINE FLIP-FLOPPINGS Message: Subject: Re: GENUINE FLIP-FLOPPINGS Message: Subject: More on charles Taylor..... Message: Diamonds are now legal exports from Liberia! Were Sierra Leoneans kept in the dark, whilst Blood Diamonds were changing hands? Stay tuned the Taylor trials are on board? AS the president and Pentagon ponder whether to send Send Discard Subject: Quoting John Leigh - When he was a stubborn kid Message: "...When tension between him and his stepmother appeared to become unmanageable, the senior Leigh arranged for his son, John Ernest, to join his older brother - Edward - at the E.U.B Mission (now United Methodist Church) Primary School at Yonibana..." Leigh has always been after money. For him, money first, integrity and everything else secondary. Public service to him is not dignified if it does not come with money. Listen to what he wrote in his biography on his choice of study... John Leigh "...Mr. Leigh had decided to study business administration because those in business were always seemed richer to him than civil servants..." (well this was pre-convention statement again). John Leigh is a vigorous proponent for national sacrifice. That was infact the hallmark of his campaign. And this is what he did to show for it. Listen to what he said on his own sacrifice. John Leigh "...Mr. Leigh soon concluded that if he continued his employment at the Bank of Sierra Leone or even elsewhere within the country, he would be doomed to a life of poverty and unsatisfied want and unable to give his own children the education he had successfully obtained for himself with the help of others. He thus resigned his appointment after approximately 18 months and returned to the United States" - Now, thats an outstanding sacrifice. Michael Subject: Re: Quoting John Leigh - When he was a stubborn kid Message: SWEH OH SWEH ! LEIGH YOU GEH MAMIE SWEH. I'm done with you because you were NASTY and RUDE to your MOTHER. I don't care if she was your step mum or an adopted MOTHER. Subject: Re: Quoting John Leigh - When he was a stubborn kid Message: Subject: Re: Quoting John Leigh - When he was a stubborn kid Message: Clearly, he also lacks goiod judgment. In other words, fit only for the dustbin of politics. Subject: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITA Message: Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITA Message: Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITA Message: Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITA Message: Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: One of them has only a bachelor's (Ernest), and two of them (Berewa and Charles) have post-baccaluareate degrees (LLB). I hope that the cloud over this misunderstanding has now been cleared. Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: News to me. In that case, Bra Solo has an LLM or LLD, Charles has an LLB, and Ernest has a BA (Back in Africa) degree in art appreciation. How is that? Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: So pan all di big noise way dem day make, nar baccalaureate degree normor dem get? How can they then be effective as the nation's problem-solvers? I don't care what anyone states to the contrary, there is a direct relationship between the level of educational exposure and effective leadership. The person that actually leads does not necessarily have to have this exposure, but the folks surrounding this leadership - the inner circle - must be astute in this exposure for national problems to be solved effectively. And the "leader" must accept their deliberations in the national interest for positive effects / outcomes. Not in the same mode as the relationship between Pa Shaki and his PhD boys. That was a trickle-down effect, therby leading to their collective failure as the guardians of our governance in Sa Lon. I shall elaborate on this theme in my next article, to be entitled "Governance without nimisas". Would you agree, Liko? Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: Sengbe, clearly, you have demonstrated that you are one of the numerous exceptions to that "wisdom." Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: You know exactly what I mean, so stop expatiating your gross stupidity in this regard. Your tendency to show yourself "to be wiser than thou" is sickening to everyone on this forum and in peeperdom. Is something psychologically wrong with you? Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: Your reply prove DUMB's point that there is no corelation between leadership [on this forum] and academic qualifications. Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: You said that "I don't care what anyone states to the contrary, there is a direct relationship between the level of eucational exposure and effective leadership." DUMB replied that "Sengbe, clearly, you have demonstrated that you are one of the numerous exceptions to that "wisdom." You do not need "parameters" to understand DUMB's All you need to look at is your rude insults in reply to DUMB's decorous reply pointing out your lack of decorum. Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: If you can;t debate the issues, it is best to refrain from exposing your limitations by lapsing into insults, name-calling and other demonstrations of a porous mind. Plus, you just keep adding more evidence that DUMB was quite correct when he told you yesterday that you a classic example of the failure of education to improve the mind. Grow up, Sengbe. you are nearly 60 years old. Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: When it comes to intelligence, i will tell you my friend you do not possess any. Debate the issue and quit the name calling. Answer the question and stop your usual tactics: dodging. Nextime you will not make unsubstantiated comments. Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: Sengbe, you are exposing yourself again -- this time exposiong the fact that you do uunderstand the words 6you use. How can a man like you who uses insults in reply to a decorous statement of your indecorum accuse the victim of his rudeness as getting personal -- unless you do not know the meaning of personal? The only person being exposed is you -- by your own hand. As for you saying that the conclusive proof that DUMB presented to show that you lack decorum is "unsubstantiated," well, it only provides evidence that "personal" is not the only word you don't yet understand. Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: Inferiority complex! Damn. Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: Here it is AGAIN: In Reply to: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? posted by Statistician on May 04, 2007 at 07:37:52: Sengbe, it is really obvious. Let me show you since you are apparently slow to understand: You said that "I don't care what anyone states to the contrary, there is a direct relationship between the level of eucational exposure and effective leadership." DUMB replied that "Sengbe, clearly, you have demonstrated that you are one of the numerous exceptions to that "wisdom." You do not need "parameters" to understand DUMB's All you need to look at is your rude insults in reply to DUMB's decorous reply pointing out your lack of decorum." Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: The worst leader in Salone's history, SLPP's President Kabbah, is the one of the most academically qualified. Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: How about if someone gets a medical degree from an offshore university.Is that degree credible or will that person be considered as less educated than let say his counterparts in the US. Subject: you nor even know wetin dem dae discuss nar yah Message: Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: I say Doc, please feel free to jump the gun on this occassion....If a person puts himself/herself forward for public office, then everything about him/her is in public interest, the public has a right to know. Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: Subject: Re: HERE IS BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE Message: Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: I understand he may have had a scholarship from Sahid Jamil who dispatched him to a neighboring country for his post-BA training. Let's see what institution trained him and the duration. Meanwhile, many thanks for your many valuable contributions in this forum, especially your push to have attention focused on the real issues that need to be addressed. Appreciated. - JL Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: The only college he went to is FBC according to what they have on the APC website. There is no mention of POst-Grad under Ernest but Sia- the wife. Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: I heard that the particular institution was a foolumunku place but I have no proof of that. - JL Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: Listen to this useless fool.Hopeless baseless Liegh,please send us your slpp minister of information Professor Kai Kai's CV and tell us where he got his PhD from. JOHN LIE REJECT THE SWEH ALAKI OLD FOOL. nor opin you mot but cv. Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITA Message: Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITA Message: Thank you very much. I am grateful. - JL Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITA Message: Please remedy your omission now. Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: Subject: Re: SO WHE WILL THE APC SHOW US BAI KOROMA'S CURRICULUM VITAE? Message: The ill-mannered Leigh was so unbrought up as a child that even his own father REJECTED him and sent him as far away from him and his wife (not Leigh's mother) as possible without Leigh leaving Sa Lon! What does that tell us? That those who knew Leigh best as a child were so thororughly disgusted with him that they rejected him! Same story at the SLPP conbention -- the uncouth and insane Leigh was rejected -- with not a single vote being cast for his foolloomunku candidacy. Again, theose who knew Leigh -- SLPP leaders he had bribed for a job as ambassador -- rejected him! Then he tried PNDC -- margai rejected him! It is clear as day that John leigh is a reject in society who has been rejected by those who know him best since his father Rejected him as a child for his yunrought-up behavior that he continues to display to this day -- nearly 70 years later. Subject: Re: MUSA KAMARA THIS IS FOR YOU Message: Subject: YOU ARE PRAISING YOUR MURDEROUS KAMAJORS JOHN L Message: Subject: Re: YOU ARE PRAISING YOUR MURDEROUS KAMAJORS JOHN L Message: You use John Leigh as a tool to attack the SLPP. To say that the Kamajor were initially rebels shows you are distorting the facts and/or have no idea of what you are talking about.You belong to the first Division of Idiots That being the case, I cannot blame John Leigh if he did not want to lose his valuable time on people like you. Subject: Re: YOU ARE PRAISING YOUR MURDEROUS KAMAJORS JOHN L Message: Bra,defending Leigh is find,but abusing others when you do not know them and their characters,is very low of you.If you start taking this ABUSIVE route,forumites will come after you in different directions,so on behalf of the forumites,I am demanding an APOLOGY from you. Subject: Re: YOU ARE PRAISING YOUR MURDEROUS KAMAJORS JOHN L Message: My brother we have had a good long discussions on this forum. I always respects your views, because you make sense usually. However there are those, and usually they are the new ones on this Forum who think they can change things by bullying their way around.They must be checked. If you took offence, then to you and others I AM SORRY, but not to the person I replies to. however, I can defend myself if need be, my brother. Subject: Re: YOU ARE PRAISING YOUR MURDEROUS KAMAJORS JOHN L Message: No one would classify you as an idiot. Therefore, there is no need for any apology from anyone. - JL Subject: Re: YOU ARE PRAISING YOUR MURDEROUS KAMAJORS JOHN L Message: Mr. Leigh, please continue your unfinished pro bono explanation of what you think is inside Cadmus' mind -- by identiying for us the remaining "idiots in this forum." If you should fail to do so, I hope you will have the new-found decency to cease and desist obstructing Cadmus' due apology as properly requested by Buford Hwy. I hope your notorious blind support for your fellow SLPP apologists will not continue to render you incapable of reasoned thought. Subject: THE APC WAS THE CAUSE OF THE REBEL WAR; THE SLPP ENDED IT! Message: "The AFRC forged a military and political alliance with the RUF, creating the ‘People’s Army’, a band of brutal and systematic violators of human rights. President Kabbah established a War Council in Exile in Guinea, while Deputy Minister of Defence Chief Samuel Hinga Norman mobilised a vast but untrained force of Kamajors to oppose the AFRC military junta..." (Sierra Leone Truth and Reconciliation Commission Report) Subject: Re: THE APC WAS THE CAUSE OF THE REBEL WAR; THE SLPP ENDED IT! Message: Thank you for reminding us...as they say 'The facts speak for themselves..' Subject: Re: THE APC WAS THE CAUSE OF THE REBEL WAR; THE SLPP ENDED IT! Message: SLPP started the rebel war. The Kamajors were an offshoot of the RUF. They started the war to get APC out of power.Please be careful how you make pronouncements in public if you want to maintain your credibility. Some people respect you as a doctor.You have to justify their respect by saying the right thing in public. SLPP was so desperate to get APC out of power they fully supported and sponsored RUF. You think the war is ended ? Wait let the APC defeat SLPP during the elections.You will hear about Kamajor, Dorgburwusi etc. Subject: Re: THE APC WAS THE CAUSE OF THE REBEL WAR; THE SLPP ENDED IT! Message: 13. "Under the APC, central government sustained itself through corruption, nepotism and the plundering of state assets. These practices were replicated at regional and local levels, where Chieftaincy became synonymous with power, patronage and control of resources. When Sierra Leone adopted a one-party constitution in 1978, any semblance of accountability or effective opposition had already been eliminated. Historical trends like economic decay and fragmentation of the national spirit were exacerbated underthe one-party system and became key causes of the conflict". Subject: Re: THE APC WAS THE CAUSE OF THE REBEL WAR; THE SLPP ENDED IT! Message: Subject: SLPP And APC Had Their Chances - The Country is Still Backwa Message: Sierra Leone: SLPP And APC Had Their Chances - The Country is Still Backward Concord Times (Freetown) OPINION Morie Mussaffa How long are Sierra Leoneans going to continue hoping and praying for a person or a party to come and save the country from this chronic doldrums of degradation and backwardness, and what are the chances of finding this person or party?Sierra Leone is a religious country composed largely of Muslims and Christians. It is easy for us to throw our hands up to the sky and say "God will help bring us the right person or party". Of course, God is always there to help and guide our nation. Yet, we should not forget that "God Help Those Who Help Themselves." Are Sierra Leoneans really helping themselves before God provides its own help for them? Are the leaders doing everything possible to help the nation so that God will continue supporting that help? Are the people doing the best they can for themselves in order for God to help them? These should be questions we should not be afraid to ask ourselves and not be afraid of seeking honest and objective answers to them. For those of you who are old enough, we can remember those days in the 70s and 80s when Ghana seemed permanently stuck in the same doldrums of backwardness until Rowlings came along from nowhere. And we know some of the hard choices he had to make to get rid of corruption at the beginning in order to put Ghana straight. Today Ghana is at the top of developing African nations. Ghana's Rowlings and Ghanaians helped themselves and now we are seeing God's sails pushing the breeze behind them. Are those Sierra Leoneans who are hooked up to those parties only for the party's sake, actually claim to be helping the country? Do these people want the country to really develop or are the party loyalties more important to them than the development of the country? We still remember under the APC when: 1. The APC phased out the railway for Mercedes Benz buses with no program for maintaining the roads the Benzes were going to be driven on The roads dilapidated. 2. The APC leaned on the Sierra Leone Selection Trust (our first diamond mining company), until it was replaced with Diminco and later replaced by Lebanese entrepreneurs who were beholden to Siaka Stevens our financial house was reduced to nothing. 3. The APC allowed the Sierra Leone Produce Marketing Board (SLPMB) to collapse and hence let the palm oil industry rot. Today, a Palm Oil based economy like Indonesia is amongst Asia's vibrantly developing nations. 4. Even with all the machinations, the APC didn't train nationals in order to establish a diamond polishing and setting industry, so that we can have better control over our natural resources. The procedure even today is to mine and under-sell our diamonds overseas. 5. The APC allowed the pre-eminence of Sierra Leone's educational superiority to slide, making the once prominent and powerful FBC/USL lower in standards than comparable West African universities. 6. The culture of APC corruption virtually bankrupt the nation to the extent where Sierra Leone couldn't secure national loans under the IMF, for example. 7. Electricity in District headquarter towns began to go off one by one replacing light with darkness that still persist in many towns today. First class tar roads in cities and District headquarter towns like Kailahun, Kenema and even Bo began to give way to the natural dirt roads again. 8. Therefore, I suggest that from now on the APC be referred to as All Progress Cancelled (APC) We have seen under the SLPP that: 1. Since the war ended, there hasn't been changes in the developmental state of the nation except for the school Principals whom the Minister of Education said the SLPP has helped them all drive Mercedes Benz cars and marry two wives. Relevant Links 3. Look around the country and see how many cities have gone from darkness to light, or from no running water to pipe-borne running water (except the capital city which now has some water wells). These are BASIC HUMAN NECESSITIES that every person should be entitled to and every government must provide for the people. 4. Look around the country and see how many new industries have vested in Sierra Leone, which should affect the employment potential of the country, and hence improvement in the standard of living. How many college graduates get employed every year? (Page 2 of 2) (b). The Peninsula Road is still no different from yester year. (d). For the first time Freetown ran out of water supply and water still remain in critical condition. (e). Kabba Tiger generators have taken over Freetown, unleashing an untold amount of pollution that poses immediate health risks to the very people using them. (f). The ab(used) Moroccan generators seem to have given up already. The few streets that were lit are now in darkness like the rest of the city. (g). Crime is at an all-time high. Highway robbers and organized criminal gangs are slowly taking over the country like in Nigeria and other places. (h). It seems like the only progress that the SLPP claim to have made are only on paper, in books and official documents. (j). There are now more of academic "Consultants" running around the country creating these enormous documents for posterity and getting paid with large sums of money that should de dedicated to real development. These documents have yet to translate into real progress for the people. (k). What can the SLPP government show for all the money that have been pumped into the country after the war ended, geared toward reparations, reconstruction, resettlement and hence development? 8. Therefore due to its failure to keep promises, I would also suggest that from now on the SLPP be referred to as the Sierra Leone Promises Party (SLPP) This brings us to the following questions: 1. Will we be helping ourselves and our country by electing any of these two parties with their clear record of letting us and the country down? 2. What then should we do to help ourselves so that God can help us and our country? 3. Who or what party should we elect to help us and our country start on the road to progress once again in Sierra Leone? Although I do support the Peoples Movement for Democratic Change (PMDC), I am asking that you keep an open and objective mind to be able to decide whether or not to bring this party to power based on what you really want for your country. I would suggest that we give Charles and the PMDC a chance to either prove themselves or to fail us like the others, and then, may be, at that time we can throw our hands up in the air and say "God we tried, but our leader and party didn't help, so we are now at your mercy". In the mean time please don't forget the Ghana story. In my next series of articles I shall bring you some of the reasons I believe the country should vote for Charles Margai and the PMDC. It will be some of the intentions and hopes that Charles and the PMDC have to make a POSITIVE CHANGE in Sierra Leone. Subject: Re: SLPP And APC Had Their Chances - The Country is Still Backwa Message: On the other had, your PMDC = PINKIN MAGGAI DON CRASE man has had more than his fair share of opportunities but has done little in his 40 years as one politically interested in holding the top position. Here are a few examples of indications of flunkeyism going back many, many years without much improvements as of date: St. Edwards - two years. CKC - three years. Failed and flunked out - form four. He served in parliament as an APC MP. What were his contributions to SLeone? = ZERO He has served in the SLPP Cabinet. What were his contributions to society? None. Just to his wife and their relatives = government contracts. He has been a member of numerous political parties, going in and out as the wind blows for purely personal opportunistic reasons; some dead, some alive and contesting such as: SLPP, PNP, APC, NUP, PMDC. How come he never understood the TGS-NOPEC oil exploration agreement which I saw in far off DC? How come he never understood the reach of the Special Court Agreement? How come he never understood the significance of the plight of Chief Sam Norman other than as a money-making opportunity for himself alone - a cool $50,000 demand? How come he thought he could get away with double-crossing the genuine Third Force reformers by the simple expedient of secretly setting up a one-manic ownership party for himself and surround himself with harlot political opportunists and foolumunkus; then began inviting his superiors to join him? How come he thought everyone is as fickle-minded as he is jumping here and jumping there? How come he went after SLeone-born Fullahs, Mandingos and Sosos during the voter registration process but then choose to pander to Fullahs by heartlessly double-crossing his loyalist Northern Muslims who had helped organize and fund his one-manic dunce political grouping? Can a party led by such a character do better than the SLPP? Isn't the APC and its surrogate AFRC that wrecked SLeone. Has the SLPP ever wrecked our country? The choice is completely clear as to which party is the most reliable vehicle for the advancement of SLeone: The SLPP. There absolutely nothing reliable with the APC and crazy Maggai Pikinini. - JL Subject: Re: SLPP And APC Had Their Chances - The Country is Still Backwa Message: WHEN WAS THAT? YOU MEN WHEN HE SERVED TWELVE MONTHS IN PADEMBA ROAD PRISON FOR REFUSING TO JOIN THE APC PARTY? WHEN OPPORTUNISTIC IDIOTS LIKE YOURSELF WERE NO WHERE TO BE SEEN. WHEN WAS THAT? YOU MEAN WHEN HIS WIFE GAVE BIRTH IN HIS ABSENCE BECAUSE HE WAS BANGED UP IN PRISON BECAUSE OF THE SLPP? WHEN SYCOPHANTS LIKE BEREWA WAS HAPPILY SERVING AS A SENIOR STATE COUNSEL FOR THE SHAKI GOVERNMENT? NOW YOU ARE MAKING ME REALLY LOSE MY TEMPER AT YOUR MADNESS. YOU SWEH ALAKI PIKIN WAE NOR GEH MAMIE BLESSING. Subject: The World Bank’s pro-private health systems harm developing Message: The comment is authored by Dr David McCoy, Department of Epidemiology and Public Health, University College London, UK – a member of the Steering Committee for The People’s Health Movement and co-managing editor of Global Health Watch. The comment says that while the Bank used to be the pre-eminent international health financing agency, it now operates in a crowded field with players such as WHO, UNICEF, the US President’s Emergency Fund for Aids Relief (PEPFAR), and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. With these new players, the bank has stepped back to assess its role, and has announced its intention to establish itself as the lead global agency for health-systems policy development, even suggesting that WHO and UNICEF should focus on the technical aspects of disease control and health facility management. Whilst the comment generally welcomes the bank’s recognition that health systems need to be strengthened, particularly in the light of the proliferation of global health initiatives and single disease programmes, it says: “While the bank’s strategy contains much to agree with, its claims to expertise and credibility in the field of health systems are troubling. Indeed, structural adjustment programmes and health sector reforms inspired by the bank have underpinned many of the current problems in poor countries.” It adds: “The Bank’s continued promotion of market oriented policies and its view that health care can be reduced to a set of tradable commodities and services raise important concerns.” The comment concludes by calling on the WHO, developing country governments, donors and international NGOs to establish a coherent long term plan to repair the fragmented, inequitable and under-resourced health systems of poor countries. An accompanying Editorial calls for the swift resignation of the World Bank’s president Paul Wolfowitz in order to restore the organisation’s credibility – which has been undermined by ethical lapses and accusations that President Bush’s policies are influencing the Bank’s strategy. The Editorial criticises the attempted manipulation of the organisation’s new 10 year health policy and says that the Bank’s managing director Juan Jose Daboub is accused of attempting to water down the women’s reproductive health part of the policy. Part of the editorial reads: “Bank employees were so dismayed at the attempted manipulation of the new health strategy that they leaked information to advocacy groups to ensure intense lobbying over its wording would take place. The latest version of the health strategy, seen by health campaigners, now recognises the reproductive rights of women.” It concludes: “As well as undermining the organisation’s work and demoralising its staff, the current crisis could provide an excuse for donors to delay, or worse, halt their funding commitments to the bank. As The Lancet went to press, Wolfowitz remained determined to keep his position. He and the bank’s board of directors must remember the organisation’s mission to alleviate poverty. They must do what is best for the world’s poorest people and negotiate a quick resignation from Wolfowitz.” Subject: Peninsula road- - fake project Message: Subject: Kabba , Berewa will never see light for what did to Norman Message: Subject: Re: Kabba , Berewa see light for act done on Norman/U Crazy Message: You can sit and hail these killers only if you did not face the bitterness of their deceptive myth. Subject: SLPP is very, very ungrateful Message: You want to tell me Kabbah gave posthumous awards but did not remember Chief Hinga Norman who died recently ? Look at what Norman did for SLPP after the 1997 coup ? What about our own John E. Leigh, who was not only the best Sierra Leone Ambassor to the U.S. but he got Kabbah the international support he needed to be able to return to power. When I look at all the names on the list, I feel sorry for Sierra Leone. Subject: Re: SLPP is very, very ungrateful Message: Your statement that: "If anyone ever doubted the ungratefulness of SLPP, just take a look at those given national award". Please don't blame the SLPP. The granting of National Awards is the sole prerogative of the President of Sierra Leone. He acts alone unbehalf of himself and his administration - the government - not his party and the party has no power over him. The SLPP and the government are two separate, legal organizations. Thanks. - JL Subject: As the Anfield Boys advance, ManU is stopped in its Tracks Message: Subject: Re: As the Anfield Boys advance, ManU is stopped in its Tracks Message: Subject: Re: As the Anfield Boys advance, ManU is stopped in its Tracks Message: Subject: BEAUTY Message: Subject: Re: BEAUTY Message: Subject: Re: BEAUTY Message: Subject: Re: BEAUTY Message: Subject: Re: BEAUTY Message: Subject: Liberia: Taylor's Trial Starts June 4 Message: May 1, 2007 He stressed that although the premises of the ICC is going to be used, Taylor will remain to be within the exclusive jurisdiction of the Special Court for Sierra Leone, and that the proceedings will be in conformity with its own proceedings. "Also, and that is under the auspices of the BBC World Service Trust, we have elaborated a programme with the BBC which will allow for journalists, both from Sierra Leone and from Liberia on a rotational basis, to go to The Hague and go to the proceedings in the case of Charles Taylor. Those journalists will be based there for up to about three months and will then rotate with other colleagues. During their presence, and also when coming back, they will be assisted by the BBC in producing documentaries, in making media presentations, and also use that work in any outreach activities that may take place in the country. And so we will do that on a rotational basis so that the number of journalists, and again from both countries, Sierra Leone and Liberia, will be able to have their own coverage of the proceedings." He added, "Also what we will have is that there will be members of Civil Society, and here again from Sierra Leone and Liberia, that will be invited to come over to The Hague for about a week and actually see the proceedings themselves so that they have a full picture of how the proceedings are going, make their own assessment, share that with members of their organizations, and see simply how the proceedings are working, and how fair and effective trial is being given to Mr. Taylor," he said. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Obama not black enough Message: Hvaen cleared that out of the way, let me say that President Bill Clinton is one of the Presidents I have great regards for because of his effort to help people of all colors or race particularly, the Black race. It is said that Behind every successful man is a good woman. So whatever he, President Clinton did, is doing, will do for people, he must have had such up-bringing and must have had a woman who bears the same sentiment. The Federal plantation system of government inherited the primordial fear of the plantation slavemasters, who were constantly paranoid and on edge over the possibility of slave revolts. The whole Federal Government was really nothing more than a massive paramilitary organization, dedicated to the function of policing the slave society, in the best interests of the slavemasters. This gave the US Government a bias which automatically made its agents suspicious of the masses, the object of control of this institution. Any sign that the people of America might somehow combine, to overthrow the plantation junta, is instinctively guarded against by the many agencies of the republic, which constantly seed the public with suggestions and innuendoes that cause rivalries and conflict between ethnic groups. Racism is a carryover into modern times of the earliest efforts by absentee European landlords, to exploit poor white people as managers over native and non-white work-forces, who otherwise would have been property-less and low-status members of European society, if they had remained in the Old World. Average Americans today are so confused about their history, they often attribute positive advances to the wrong parties, and this is why so many people believe that the Civil Rights Movement was only possible under the auspices of the republic. The truth is that the Civil Rights Movement was only made necessary because of the impact of the racist, atheistic, and untraditional republic imposed by the arbitrary will of the Founding Fathers, for it was the usurpation of the prerogatives of genuine constitutional institutions by the republic that created the imbalances the Civil Rights Movement sought to remedy. Had the Founders preserved the ancient constitution in its entirety, instead of picking and choosing those laws that served them at the expense of the nation, America would not have been behind Europe a generation in the recognition that civil rights were human rights which all people are entitled to universally. "AMERICAN WORK (Review by Anthony M. Platt, author of "E. Franklin Frazier Reconsidered." He is a professor of social work at Cal State Sacramento) Not since the 1960s have we seen such a literary outpouring about race relations in the United States. More than 30 years ago, the country's racial discussion focused on exposing the destructiveness of racism and debating the merits of radical versus liberal solutions. Revolutionaries such as Malcolm X and Angela Davis on the one hand, and the reformist Kerner Commission on the other, defined the boundaries of the public discourse. By the 1990s, however, liberal and radical perspectives were eclipsed by the successes of the New Right: Affirmative Action is gutted; the jails and prisons are filled with more African Americans and Latinos than ever before; a record number of black families has been dropped from welfare rolls; and old-style nativism is once again guiding immigration policy. The current academic debates recall the atmosphere of the pre-civil rights 1950s. Racism is a problem of the past, argue Dinesh D'Souza in "The End of Racism" and Stephen and Abigail Thernstrom in "America in Black and White: One Nation Indivisible." On the contrary, responds David Shipler, it's alive and flourishing, for we remain "a country of strangers," as he has titled his latest book. We shouldn't need a book that once again demonstrates the deep-rootedness of racism in the United States and patiently explains how racial conflicts "remain the moral burden of the country's history." But we do, and the challenge is eloquently and thoughtfully met by Jacqueline Jones, chair of the history department at Brandeis University and author of three previous books, including the prize-winning "Labor of Love, Labor of Sorrow: Black Women, Work, and the Family From Slavery to the Present." "American Work," as the author notes, is based on her previous research and hundreds of specialized studies produced by a generation of intellectuals, schooled in the activist '50s and '60s, who fundamentally changed how we conceptualize and do American history. It is a pleasure to read an academic historian who writes creatively, with attention to texture and detail. Jones communicates her passion without sacrificing analytical sophistication. The book ambitiously covers four centuries of American race relations by focusing on the history of work, in particular the ways in which race has operated to divide the labor force, to provide "certain kinds of workers with advantages over others" and to relegate Africans, slaves and African Americans to the hardest, most demeaning and most precarious ways of earning a living. Unlike most neoconservative writers, Jones puts class at the heart of her analysis of race. The book is organized as a chronological narrative with three major sections: the Colonial era from the early 17th century through the Revolution; the 19th century, with a focus on the Civil War; and the modern and postmodern eras of the 20th century. This is not so much a comprehensive history as it is an illustrative analysis of key moments in the transformation of American work. The author treats the 20th century quite cursorily, almost as an afterthought, but the earlier history is filled with rich, complex details: We vicariously experience what it was like to stoop in the humid tobacco fields of the 17th century Chesapeake region or to exert enormous physical strength clearing the forests for crops in 18th century Georgia or to do backbreaking, repetitive tasks in the new factory jobs unleashed by industrialism. Jones argues that race is not an inherent identity based on biological or ethnic characteristics but a "fluid set of rationalizations, always shifting in response to considerations related to military defense, labor supply and demand, and technological innovation." Nor is racism a universal and transcendental phenomenon, she argues, but rather socially constructed, historically specific policies shaped by the labor market, ideology, government intervention and political resistance. She makes this point by persuasively showing that before the institutionalization of slavery, Africans were just one of many exploited groups in the New World. In 17th century Virginia, Maryland and Georgia, for example, almost all workers were "bound to some form of exploitative relationship - children governed by their elders, servants by their masters, sharecroppers and tenants by their landlords, hirelings by their employers, women by their fathers and husbands, Indians and Africans by white men, criminals and sexual renegades by the state and church." But during the 17th and 18th centuries, white elites began to selectively use black slave labor and to stress the racial distinctiveness of Africans and their descendants. Africans became marked as "permanent strangers" who could not even aspire to "claim membership in a historic English community," a status "associated with white skin and European lineage." Slavery sealed the fate of Africans, ascribing to them the reputation of "cunning, bloodthirsty people" and relegating them to the most degraded work. "By excluding black people from the body politic of the new nation," writes Jones, "and by defining black people exclusively as enslaved workers, theorists of the American Revolution grounded an emergent liberal, democratic state upon the principles of a traditional feudalistic tyranny." (Some scholars certainly would argue the point that traditional and feudal characteristics are not always the same thing. Feudalism is a unique institution that existed during the Middle Ages, which came to an end at the time of the Enlightenment. Traditional institutions, on the other hand, only refers to institutions that owe their existence to tradition, that is, customs and practices the people embrace with or without the sanction of formal legislation. The Revolution, of course, did not produce an "emergent liberal state," but a reactionary mob-driven police state. WFI Editor) This book makes its strongest contribution to the literature in its illustration of how the labor force became racially categorized before, during and after the Civil War. We learn, for example, that with the development of commercial agriculture in the South, the most dangerous and demanding jobs were reserved for Africans and their children - tapping pine trees for pitch and tar, preparing fields for cultivation and planting and harvesting rice, cotton and indigo. In the Cotton Belt, the vast majority of black men and women worked as field hands. Before the Civil War, African Americans were systematically excluded from almost all the Northern mills and factories; after the War, Southern mills and factories also became reserved for whites. The near total exclusion of black workers from jobs as machine operatives in textile mills lasted until the mid-1960s. (It is also important to take notice of the fact that when the Abolitionists were campaigning for the abolition of slavery, the great majority were white men who refused to allow any black men any leadership roles. WFI Editor) In the antebellum North, as millions of Irish and German immigrants entered the labor market, white men found themselves "in a tight place," as Sojourner Truth observed in 1851 - "the poor slave is on him, woman coming on him, and he is surely between a hawk and a buzzard." Jones thoughtfully captures the tensions antebellum whites felt about black progress, an echo of the assertion of white victimhood more than a hundred years later. "Blacks appeared menacing to whites in a variety of workplaces," she writes. "The lowly immigrant canal digger determined to hold on to his sense of superiority while toiling alongside a black co-worker; the failing artisan, who saw in the black hod carrier's poverty his own future degradation; and the haughty Philadelphia merchant, dependent on his southern slaveholding customers - all of these whites believed they had much to lose in any situation where blacks had anything to gain. From these tensions arose an image of African Americans as doubly dangerous: as poor people and yet also as politically aggressive people." This antebellum antagonism between whites and blacks left an enduring legacy of systemic impoverishment for black workers and deep divisions within the Northern working class. "African Americans performed the menial labor that served as the legs of a ladder of upward occupational mobility that so many whites… had realistic aspirations to climb." Meanwhile, what was lost for generations, observes Jones, was the potential class-wide unities that might have been forged, were it not for racism, between "white widows spinning in workhouse-manufactories," "former slaves toiling in the kitchens and stables of white households," indigenous peoples "deprived of their ancestral lands" and poor white men preoccupied with the "insecurity of their livelihood." The Civil War was a mixed blessing for African Americans. In the South during the war, "in the fields and factories, in iron forges and army camps, black men, women, and children as workers bore the burdens of a war fought to keep them in chains." (Indeed, there were instances of Southern blacks fighting on behalf of the Confederacy, probably because the Civil War was an attempt at a nationalist revolution, and the South was trying to establish an independent national identity; slavery was not introduced as a pivotal issue of the War until the Federal Government started losing. WFI Editor) After the war, what was gained politically and morally was lost in the workplace. As whites entered new jobs in the manufacturing, clerical and retail sectors, black workers were largely confined to domestic work in the South. In the North, racism and segregation combined to exclude them from work at the metal trades in New York forges, at power looms in Philadelphia textile factories, at machines in Berkshire paper mills and inside offices in Cincinnati. By the 20th century, African Americans all over the country found themselves in racially categorized jobs, typically cut off from the newly industrial technology. Three million emancipated slaves had been transformed into denizens, having graduated from slavery to neo-slavery as native-born Americans who were denied the legal protections achieved by white citizens. As blacks were excluded by government and craft unions alike, blackness became, in Jones' words, a "liability that could not be overcome through hard work, talent, or ambition." By the 1920s, "the creators of this new economy had decreed that black people would not participate in it, as sellers, as consumers, as managers, operators of sophisticated machinery, or as advertising icons touting new apparel or appliances. In the United States, modernization wore a white face." It is a pity that "American Work" does not close with this powerful observation. Jones decided to stretch what she admits began as "a series of long working papers" into a definitive treatise on the place of race within the labor market. Unfortunately, the last three chapters speed through the 20th century and a brief epilogue on affirmative action concludes with a skimpy assessment of the current state of race relations in America. Too much is skipped over or ignored in the book's last 75 pages: For example, racial violence connected to job competition during the era of World War I is not seriously addressed; the GI Bill, which provided millions of mostly white men with a leg up into professional careers after World War II, is not even mentioned; and the significant opening up of the public sector, union jobs and university careers for African Americans in the 1960s is too glibly dismissed as tokenism. (The violence of the late 1960s scared the **** out of the white establishment, the principal protagonist of which was the late J. Edgar Hoover. The Civil Rights Movement represented everything every Federal bureaucrat had been guarding against for 150 years: the combining of the people with such strength that they no longer depended upon the Federal Government as a mouthpiece. The violence used to suppress it expressed the real desperation and fear the Civil Rights and Peace Movements represented to the ruling class. The evolution of a black and hispanic middle class, above all, was meant to pacify the black and hispanic populations, which had justified claims of being discriminated against as second class citizens. Nothing creates a strident supporter of the status quo faster than being allowed to possess something that then needs to be guarded. WFI Editor) Finally, it is troubling that a book titled "American Work," written with great sensitivity to issues of race, gender and class, has limited itself to black and white relations and to a view of the United States that rarely ventures beyond the East and South. The role of American Indians in the labor force is acknowledged in chapters on the Colonial era, but it is absent from the analysis of the 19th century. When Latinos and Asians finally appear in the last chapters, they enter only as late 20th century immigrant workers. What about the Asian workers who came to the Americas in the early 17th century via the Spanish galleon trade, or the Filipinos who settled in Louisiana in the 18th century, or the vaqueros who herded cattle in the Southwest in the 1700s, or the Mexican farm workers who comprised more than 75% of beet workers in the Midwest during the 1920s? (And what about the Asians who were imported into the Hawaiian Islands as labor on the sugar plantations, until they outnumbered the native population, circa 1880? WFI Editor) A simple acknowledgment by the author of the book's limited scope and perhaps a more precise title would have addressed these issues and allowed us to give full attention to its considerable strengths: an instructive analysis of the racialization of American work, a repudiation of current policies of malign neglect and a compassionate insight into what it means to be permanent strangers in a homeland of 400 years. SOURCE: Reprinted from the 22 March, 1998, issue of the Los Angeles Times Book Review. Reprinted in the public service of the national interest of the American people. I have thought about Mr. Obama's Presidency and how him and Senator Clinton can make-up a fabulous team for the Democratic party. When we consider the piece presented above, I believe, if the two do not co-operate, the chances and the divide and rule principle will hunt their party. But Black people must remember that we fought for self-rule in Africa while the African-Americans were struggling for Civil Rights here and both struggles carried the same weight and none should underestimate the other. Until we learn about each other, we shall remain ruled, the inferior race, which we have moved way beyond. The civil rights pioneers and Black freedom fighters in Africa worked side-by-side to free the Black race of not only the shackles of Slavery but also indignity. Which is most Africans started the struggle for independence and regained their freedom at about the sixties, the same time African-Americans gained civil rights. Until we work to toget her and stop blaming each other, we shall be partially represented in the White House. Subject: A DAMNING REPORT ON THE SIERRA LEONE POLICE (SLP) Message: New and reinvigorated crime prevention strategies by the Sierra Leone Police (SLP) have produced some positive results, but overall, the SLP has had moderate success in containing the criminal element in the country. Violent crime is no worse in Sierra Leone then in most other West African countries, but there has been a noticeable increase over the last year. This may be a result of the complete departure of UN peacekeeping troops, a high unemployment rate, increasing drug use and a large number of ex-combatants remaining in country. The United Nations Integrated Office in Sierra Leone (UNIOSIL) maintains a small contingent of police advisors, with a focus more on enhancing professional development than peacekeeping. Freetown has experienced an increase in nighttime robberies, assaults and murders. Also, incidents of petty street crime and pocketpicking have increased throughout the city. Like in most West African countries, expatriates are potential targets due to their perceived wealth. Therefore, it is essential that persons visiting Sierra Leone exercise usual security precautions appropriate for West Africa. Over the past year, criminal exploits have become more brash and aggressive. Increasingly operating in numbers and while heavily armed, criminals carry out home invasions, carjackings and assaults often without fear of retribution. Crime will most likely increase in the coming year due to the presidential and parliamentary elections scheduled for July 28, 2007, continued poor economic conditions and the perceived notion that the SLP are not up to the task of providing adequate police presence. Political Violence Sierra Leone has seen an escalation in demonstrations, rioting and attacks on police stations by students and other various groups from the local populace who have shown a willingness to lash out after perceived injustices by the Government of Sierra Leone and the SLP. Sierra Leone's biggest foreseeable security challenge will be maintaining a secure environment for the upcoming elections. Historically, Sierra Leone's elections have often been accompanied by violence. Tempers have already flared between supporters of various political parties and between the ethnic Limbas and Mandingos, providing a glimpse of the heightened political tensions heading into what could be a volatile campaign year. Police Response The most visible police presence in Sierra Leone is unarmed uniformed officers directing traffic and patrolling assigned areas on foot or motorcycle. Most SLP officers lack conventional police equipment (two-way radios, restraints, defensive weapons, flashlights, etc.) required to be effective at their jobs. While the abilities of the SLP are on par with police in other West African nations, they cannot be compared to a U.S. police force in terms of capability, responsiveness or professionalism. Corruption remains a problem in the SLP, especially at the lower levels. The issue of low pay and low morale within the ranks breeds a lax environment towards corruption in the police force. Of the approximate 9,000 SLP officers, there are about 2,200 armed police officers. A special unit of police officers (Operational Security Division / OSD) is armed with shoulder weapons and is usually deployed to man roadside checkpoints and serve on patrol teams that respond to calls for assistance. Police response to calls for assistance is very slow, if they respond at all. Receiving police assistance can be difficult for the following reasons: Post-Specific Concerns Potential future security concerns in Sierra Leone include the following: • The ability of the SLP and Sierra Leone Military (RSLAF) to maintain a secure environment during the elections and their capabilities to react to a crisis in country without external support; • The concern that the SLP or RSLAF could be involved in or exacerbate any civil unrest that may occur in the future; Subject: Severe Hiccups For Economy Message: The frightening figures in the face of a challenge which confronts government especially in the area of providing 21 billion leones in the area of salaries per month has put many people in government in a state of concern. The explanation that the political instability that rocked Guinea recently also affected the economic performance of Sierra Leone has been ignored by the International Monetary Fund as the officials of the IMF argued that Guinea which suffered the political instability actually experienced an impressive increase in revenue generation and why Sierra Leone, a mere neighbour, should suffer more than Guinea is very difficult to fathom. Indeed the deterioration in the economic performance of the state now compels government to desist from bank financing, in other words government can only now funds its programmes from money actually earned. However, sources close to government state that intervention by the Lodge, especially the president, to reverse the deteriorating trend in income generation may likely save Sierra Leone from running into any difficulty that might likely affect Sierra Leone’s programmes with the IMF. Subject: Latest Headlines New Citizen Message: He further said that the police cannot now ascertain whether it is a politically motivated incident, but he however said that there were land disputes in that part of the country and that could have been the cause of this arson attack which has left many people homeless. Therefore, he said, a Task Force comprising youths and other members of the chiefdoms have been formed and some arrests have been made. A total of+ twelve villages were said to have been set ablaze, according to the LUC Pujehun. Posted on 02 May 2007 Subject: Sierra Leone: PMDC Loses Ground in Kenema Message: Print This Page May 2, 2007 Mohamed Massaquoi The Peoples Movement for Democratic Change PMDC is said to be loosing grounds as the Sierra Leone Peoples Party (SLPP) intensives its grip to regain support among the youth population in the Kenema district. This was made visible last Saturday when the District Chairman of SLPP, Prince Quee decorated 75 youths who have pledged their support for the SLPP in a ceremony held at the Chief Compound, One-man Abu Road, Kenema. "In constituency eleven, eight, and three, we have been able to convert a very large number of PMDC supporters," he said adding that PMDC is loosing political grounds as most of its supporters in the district have surrendered. He disclosed that the chief of Zoon Eight, John Massaquoi has informed him that they have formed themselves in to groups as traditional elders, parents including teachers in their community in order to prepare the minds of youths who are not politically oriented. "We have realized that our children have gone out of hands politically. This is why we have summoned a general meeting of all stakeholders to actually sensitize our children ahead of the elections. I am please to inform the general public that we have been able to converts 75 PMDC supporters at various communities in the township more especially in the Gbo Kakajama section," he said adding that youths who have attained voting age need to be guided by their parents in their political decisions. Konneh noted that the SLPP government has done a lot in the educational sector and that the students should be grateful to the party and government. Similar ceremonies were held at the SLPP party office, Hangha Road in which PMDC supporters denounced their membership for the SLPP. Subject: Re: Sierra Leone: PMDC Loses Ground in Kenema Message: Subject: A Second E-Mail From Freetown Message: ================================================================================================= "PIKIN MARGAI DON CRACE is the new popular meaning of PMDC. Charles is in trouble. I understand he is intending to rejoin SLPP against APC. I will confirm this today and give you the details. He knows his fall is eminent. Dr Kabia (Sokoh) the son of Late PC Ella Koblo Gulama, is disgruntled with Charles for choosing Dr Tejan Jalloh and not him as running mate. He says that Charles is not trustworthy and dictatorial and has decided to leave PMDC. PMDC supporters in Bonthe, Moyamba, Pujehun, Bo are leaving PMDC en masse for the SLPP. I am told that Charles alone decided on Dr Tejan Jalloh as his running mate. Most of the PMDC supporters say they would prefer to return to SLPP than to join APC. That's good news. Subject: Re: A Second E-Mail From Freetown Message: This sounds like MUSIC to my ears.. By the way, the Kenema report is true...my brother was at the Party office when the event took place, he told me so on the telephone. Subject: Re: A Second E-Mail From Freetown Message: PMDC is all but gone. From the way Maggai went about setting it up, to his alphabet-soup background, his CKC ala-ala as if he is a CKC graduate in goodstanding; to the large numbers of LOW GRADE SAN SAN BOYS he surrounded himself with, it was clear that PMDC would never take-off. Now it has self-destruct and everyone, including the pikin crase man himself, is seeking to jump ship except for a few disgruntled internet dumbos fed a lie-lie diet and fed-up with washing plates, cleaning toilets or licking stamps in the Diaspora. But these, too, are on their last legs. They now depend on stalking, lies, outrageous lie-lie allegations, cuss, insults, impersonations and foolumunku crap. Let them contunie for as long as they wish! As for developments in Kenema, my man there told me the same exact thing plus that PMDC big wig, Chief Sowu, is a bitterly disappointed man because of the flunkey running mate kindergarten stunt by someone he once trusted and thought he knew very well. Well, that's afro politics; that's life. Right now, I am researching all aspects of nation-wrecking under APC regimes as well as Sahid Jamil's role in the making of his flag bearer peggy boy. Thank you. - JL Subject: Re: A Second E-Mail From Freetown Message: Subject: Re: A Second E-Mail From Freetown Message: No. Political confusion comes naturally. My own mentoring helps one clear up his mind and see the plain truth objectively. My associates can recognize a LOW GRADE SAN SAN, foolumunku impulsion when they see one. Thanks. - JL Subject: Re: A Second E-Mail From Freetown Message: I know its very bad news for some people buy its true! ======================================================================================================= Folders[Add - Edit] Find Any Mortgage rates Online degrees DeleteReplyForwardSpamMove... To: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com Dear Ernest, PIKIN MARGAI DON CRACE is the new popular meaning of PMDC. Charles is in trouble. I understand he is intending to rejoin SLPP against APC. I will confirm this today and give you the details. He knows his fall is eminent. Dr Kabia (Sokoh) the son of Late Ella Koblo Gulama, is disgruntled with Charles for choosing Dr Tejan Jalloh and not him as running mate. He says that Charles is not trustworthy and dictatorial and has decided to leave PMDC. PMDC supporters in Bonthe, Moyamba, Pujehun, Bo are leaving PMDC en masse for the SLPP. I am told that Charles alone decided on Dr Tejan Jalloh as his running mate. Most of the PMDC supporters say they would prefer to return to SLPP than to join APC. That's good news. Subject: Re: A Second E-Mail From Freetown Message: Subject: Re: A Second E-Mail From Freetown Message: Your coinage is excellent and it is now in SLeone political folklore: PMDC = PIKIN MARGAI DON CRASE. Congratulations!!! His foolumunku supporters thought that many of us were an easy mark for recruitment and duping because they judged us in his flunkey, dunce, fickle-minded image. Those who fell in for the dynastic rubbish trap have been used, double-crossed and discarded like skunks. But many of them are genuinely good people who were understandably disgruntled. We have to be prepared to work with them inside SLPP if they are interested. Thank you and congrats once again, genius! - JL Subject: Re: A Second E-Mail From Freetown Message: I will forever remain to serve the reform wing of the SLPP, as the vehicle that will enable us to lead in the governance of our beloved Sa Lon in the future - post-Berewa. Bra John, please allow me to give you a little advice as far as this forum is concerned: Please do not make it a habit to engage in fruitless discussions with every Tom, Dick and Harry on this forum. You are too respectable a person to lower your standards to that level. I know how democratic you tend to be, by engaging the "masses" in discourse. But when what ought to be discourse is transformed into diatribe by some of the shameless dunderheads, you ought to refrain from such engagements. This in no way portrays weakness on your part. I know how STRONG you are, and I have written about that strength in my "The Legend of John E. Leigh" on this forum about a month or so ago - please check the archives if you have not seen or read that article. Most of these nonentities know that they are no match for you. But by engaging you on a public forum such as this one in the rude and utterly despicable manner as is their tendency, they are vying for some sort of certificate of respectability through you unknowingly. What you need to do constantly, is what you have recently started to do albeit on a limited basis - ignore the stupid mordaphockers completely. I can sense some of them through their unchanging empty verbosity. Their lack of creativity in expression identifies them clearly on this forum. One of them is a common criminal who stole thousands if not millions of pounds sterling from the people of Sa Lon, in collaboration with the late Bra Musa Suma. He tries to portray intellectualism by hiding behind inappropriate bombastic verbiage in order to impress the "blind" ones here on this forum and elsewhere. I adviced you to ignore him about six months ago, and you did. His new tactic is to use different monikers to engage you instead of his usual name in the hope that you would not continue to ignore him. You have sensed that fact on some ocassions, and you disengaged him. Continue to do that, and merely serve in the capacity as the political educator you have been so far for the benefit of those who are truly not in the know about issues of govenance / politics related to our Sa Lon. I hope I have not offended you in any way through the inherent presumptuousness of this posting. Where possible, fight fire with fire, as always, in the spirit of our warrior forefathers. It is I, Sengbe, your comrade in reform in the SLPP and in Sa Lon, as a whole. Subject: Re: Thank You Message: Many thanks for your excellent advice. We certainly do have the lowest of the low in this forum. Some of the rude dumb ones remind me of RUF and Johnny Paul Koroma's supporters during the inter-regnum. They are absolutely impervious to reason believing that persistent lies and rudeness solve problems. Like I said earlier and elsewhere, as soon as I sense the on-set of diminishing returns in their postings, I ask for their genuine IDs and say goodbye for good. It is the same self-praising small group of dumbos, SLPMB thieves and foreign exchange clowns with their can of soft drink that they believe will generate parity between the leone and the dollar. Thanks again. - JL Subject: Re: A Second E-Mail From Freetown Message: Subject: Re: A Second E-Mail From Freetown Message: Subject: Re: A Second E-Mail From Freetown Message: They should thank Sengbe for that "meaning". He coined it as soon as the PMDC was born and baptized. Subject: A New Email from Freetown Message: The political atmostphere is tense. The exodus from SLPP to PMDC is unprecedented. Dont be surprised to learn that neraly 80% of the ministers are backing FC. They are just protecting their jobs. Berewa will loose arms-down. Let no propaganda machinery tell you otherwise, because we are on the ground and we are seeing everything. The entire east and South have surrendered. North is split between PMDC and APC. You know the rest of the story in Freetown. People are not worried about the outcome of the election, they are worried about SLPP's plan to rig by killing people. But The people are ready. As an SLPP supporter, I will stop using my green T-shirt by mid july. For now, I need the free food and pegapark. XXXXXXXXXXXXXX Subject: Re: A New Email from Freetown Message: Subject: Re: A New Email from Freetown Message: Subject: Re: A New Email from Freetown Message: Subject: Re: A New Email from Freetown Message: Subject: Re: A New Email from Freetown Message: Subject: Re: A New Email from Freetown Message: The political atmostphere is tense. The exodus from SLPP to PMDC is unprecedented. Dont be surprised to learn that neraly 80% of the ministers are backing FC. They are just protecting their jobs. Berewa will loose arms-down. Let no propaganda machinery tell you otherwise, because we are on the ground and we are seeing everything. The entire east and South have surrendered. North is split between PMDC and APC. You know the rest of the story in Freetown. People are not worried about the outcome of the election, they are worried about SLPP's plan to rig by killing people. But The people are ready. As an SLPP supporter, I will stop using my green T-shirt by mid july. For now, I need the free food and pegapark. Please permit me to respond. In so doing let me ask: what is the purpose of the Presidential/General elections? Why are parties formed and why is it considered a responsibility for the citizenship participation? Please understand that I am using this statement as a reminder of what aspirants in the past have underwent by people being two-facy and turn-coats. (double helix) smile. Subject: JL in its attempt to distort history Message: Without the CDF there would be no democracy today in SLeone". Subject: Re: WAYWARD KAMAJORS Message: Subject: Re: WAYWARD KAMAJORS Message: Subject: Re: FRUSTRATED LOOSERS Message: REBUTTAL: I have drifted from no lies because I have made no lies. Next, "Wayward Kamajor" is not a word. It is a phrase and I did not coin the phrase. You are the liar! Third, wayward kamajors are not genuine kamajors. Hence, it is clear that you have no case to make against me, no matter how hard you try. You are a frustrated looser in this debate. MMA: "If I did not point out your distortion, you and the other SLPP apologists will have the bold mind to say that JL is winning the dabate here." - MMA REBUTTAL: Where is the distortion, Dumbo? Next, there is not a single apologist in SLPP. We do not apologize when there is not the need. We debate fairly and win convincingly. On the other hand, you MMAs have lost the public debate and reduced to false claims, brash assertions, repetitive lies, irrelevancies, trash talk, cuss, insults, vulgarisms, muliple monikers, abusive use of monikers, and the shamelss retrieval of old one-sided aricles containing wild and unsubstantiated allegations without ever showing the damaging rebuttals thereof or even hinting rebutalls exists. Shame on you. The SLPP side clearly has won the public debate on the basis of facts, logic and integrity. Not one of you was able to offer a point of dispute with my articles rebutting your retrieved old article by Sesay. No one challenged my New York Times OP-ED piece of April 17, 2006, re Charles Taylor, etc. You lost very badly on each and every posting. MMA: "John Leigh you have succeded to tarnish your image by cloaking with the Berewa SLpp and this has caused you to be a spurious politician." REBUTTAL: You are talking rubbish and day dreaming. You do not have the clout to sit in judgment of anyone. My purist image is glorious. Berewa's image is far superior to Koroma's and Maggai's. SLPP's image is far superior to APC's and PMDC's. MMA: "Nobody alone including John Leigh, neither Kabbah or Berewa that was responsible for peace in the Country. It was the sacrifices made by ordinay people and Peace Keepers coupled with the UN security Council commitment to stop the war in Sierra Leone." REBUTTAL: Rubbish! Peace does not happening by itself. Somebody (Prez Kabbah) put the whole package together to ursher us into peace. He harnessed the sacrifices of the "ordinary people" and brought the peacekeepers into SLeone through diplomacy. Berewa negotiated Lome which ended the war by trapping Sankoh, Bockarie, Johnny Paul Koroma, etc. Lome was a pre-condition for UN Peacekeeping. As for me, I did my own two-bit in DC as did many others also elsewhere. It was a team effort! MMA: "Even Sylvia Blyden has got an order of heRokel, while you are languishing outside the fence to shout that your SLPP is a better option." REBUTTAL: Good for Ms. Blyden but that does not change my opinion about her. Hey! She had Amnesty! On the other hand, nobody ever gave Jesus christ, Dr. Mohamed Forna or Alhaji Ibrahim Tarqui, each an Order of the Rokel. Why me? Every president choses what he values. If he selects Blyden for certain of her values, that's his right and power. No problem with me! Me languishing? A lot you know! I am not languishing anywhere at all. I am flourishing in the excellent space I have created for myself so I can retain my values. LASTLY, SLPP is a far better option than APC or PMDC for 2007 - but that's my own estimate based on my life experiences. Nothing is wrong if your own conclusions are different from mine based on your own background. Its your right! MMA: "If you had worked so well with Kabbah, why he did not ever nominate John ernest Leigh for a honour." REBUTTAL: You should check with him, not me. He is the president giving out honors. Maybe, I did not work well with him after all as you are wrongly supposing. But do you think Ms. Blyden and I should be in the same boat? I don't think so. MMA: "JL, think about tomorrow. Iam sure your support to the SLPP is as aresult of your maternal connection." REBUTTAL: Wrong. Stop jumping to erroneous conclusions. Why, are you a tribalist? My father was an SLPPer. He was a friend of Sir Milton since Albert Academy days. Through him I met Sir Milton. MMA: "You put SLPP above Sierra Leone." REBUTTAL: Wrong again. Sierra Leone is way above the SLPP. SLPP is merely the most appropriate organizational vehicle to make Sierra Leone a great nation. I can't say this for either APC or PMDC. MMA: "There are many evidences to show that you yourself has been aggrieved becasue your party has left Sierra Leoneans to suffer immensely." REBUTTAL: So what? Are you implying that because I am disappointed or disgruntled or aggrrieved or whatever, I have absolutely no choice other than to run away and jump-ship, then hip-hop and flip-flop into a secretive, one-manic ownership party of flunkeys, remedial dunces, foolumunkus and crookish alphabet-soup harlot opportunists worshipping Mr. fahlahmahkahtah Dropout Dumbo himself? Next, Sierra Leoneans are suffering far less than they were under APC, PMDC and the military governments. Suffering was under the RUF and the AFRC/RUF. SLPP is striving to reduce our sufferings. And I am in the SLPP to help in getting things done in such a way that life will improve for us all. Having responded as above, I'd like to close this chapter and exit this the subjectmatters in this posting. GOODBYE. - JL Subject: Re: FRUSTRATED LOOSERS Message: The SLPP is full of apologists for the SLPP's record as thre most corrupt and incomptent party in Sierra leone's history. You are a classic example of such treasonous apologists. Subject: Re: FRUSTRATED LOOSERS Message: Subject: Re: FRUSTRATED LOOSERS Message: Subject: Re: FRUSTRATED LOOSERS Message: Subject: Re: FRUSTRATED LOOSERS Message: Subject: Re: JL in its attempt to distort history Message: Subject: What does APC do about corruption? Message: Talking about Manifestos, the APC and the SLPP have still not surfaced with one. Is the situation better? Subject: SLPP thugs attack Fretown City Council Message: Subject: "VERILY, VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU" THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN Message: 273. Those in powerful public positions should be required to register their financial interests, when assuming office.They should also disclose their financial interests acquired after their assumption of office, including those of their spouses and dependents. This must be done on an annual basis. Most of this information should be open to the public. Those who should be subjectto this requirement include all members of cabinet, Parliament, judges,heads of parastatals, general managers in the civil service and parastatals and members of District and City Councils. (Sierra Leone Truth and Reconciliation Commission Report) Subject: Re: "VERILY, VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU" THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN Message: Subject: Re: "VERILY, VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU" THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN Message: Subject: Re: "VERILY, VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU" THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN Message: Subject: Re: "VERILY, VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU" THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN Message: ------------------------------------------------------ Did the SLPP ESTABLISHED the ACC OR (according to the above)they are going to establish the ACC? Subject: Re: "VERILY, VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU" THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN Message: Subject: you failed to address the disclosure of assets! Message: Subject: THEY ARE NOT ALL THE SAME! Message: Nor does Sir Albert Margai owe Sierra Leone an apology. Sir Albert is the archetypical Sierra Leonean self-made man. Before entering into politics he was founder and principal of Strieby Chambers, one of the most successful law firms in Sierra Leone and indeed British West Africa because his firm had clients all over Anglophone West Africa. He was also an entrepreneur on many other fronts as well, and was a man of considerable means before he entered into politics. Perhaps Sir Albert’s greatest contributions to Sierra Leone were as Minister of Finance in which position he oversaw the creation of the Central Bank, the introduction of the Leone, and his innovation of the progressive income tax, PAYE (Pay As You Earn) was how he pitched it to great acclaim. It must be noted that for as long as he was Minister of finance and later Prime Minister, inflation was negligible and the Leone remained on par with the US Dollar and the Pound Sterling. I know because when I came to this country, I walked into a branch of Manufacturers’ Hannover Trust (now Merged into Chase bank), and exchanged my Leones one for one with the Dollar. Sir Albert too was Prime Minister for only three years, and the country he bequeathed to his successors was one of the best managed in West Africa. Yet Sir Albert has been distorted as tribalist; dismissed as corrupt; and denied his due as perhaps Sierra Leone’s most visionary and effective manager-leader to this day. It is just the other way around taht it is Sierra Leone that owes Sir Albert many apologies. It is now hard to imagine. But under the Margais the trains ran on time; Freetownians got around in clean and safe double-decker busses; schools were well equipped and if you made it to form six, you received a monthly stipend of up to fifteen pounds sterling, plus allowance for books and supplies to entice you to aspire to higher education. The army was well fed; well equipped, well appointed, disciplined, and military facilities were spick and span. Government facilities were well maintained and if you were up early as I usually was to walk to school, you would frequently see dog police picking up stray dogs, and the streets around market places in particular being power washed. Under the Margais Sierra Leone was a country that worked, individuals mattered, and merit was respected. Sierra Leone had a bright future. The Margais endured vicious opposition in their time. The country was far more democratic then and people spoke their minds. The caliber of opposition was also much better. Gentlemen of the opposition like Bankole Bright, I.T.A. Wallace-Johnson, Cyril Rogers-Right, Tamba Brewah, and Valesius Neal-Caulker were giants in their own right, who tower over the midgets who have been on parade since 1968. The Margais were also Members of Parliament and subject to frequently intense questioning during Prime Minister’s question time when Parliament was in session. They were therefore accountable. They also had to contend with senior civil servants who were sympathetic to opposition parties, especially the APC, and who invariably passed on inside information that the opposition used for ammunition. In the face of all this, it never occurred to the Margais to delay or in any other way manipulate schedules for national, district, or local elections. They ran clean elections, and they never, ever, sent a political opponent to the gallows. These may well have been their greatest legacies of all. It is a disgrace and blatant distortion to group them with the small men without vision who have followed them. Subject: A TRIBUTE TO THE HON. JOHN LEIGH Message: 4.These legacies must be confronted on the basis that there is a need for tolerance, not for prejudice; a need for acknowledgment and accountability, not for recrimination; a need for reparation, not for retribution; a need for community, not for victimisation; a need for understanding, not for suspicion; and a need for reconstruction, not for greed. (Sierra Leone Truth and Reconciliation Commission Report) Subject: IT WILL HAUNT YOU-KAMAJOR INDEPENDENT MAN Message: Subject: DEBATE ELECTION ISSUES, NOT AMNESTIED CRIMES! Message: Let’s keep in mind that all crimes committed during the barbaric AFRC/RUF war have been amnestied. So, let’s start debating relevant election issues while there is yet time. Voter education is an essential element of genuine democracy! - JL Subject: Re: DEBATE ELECTION ISSUES, NOT AMNESTIED CRIMES! Message: Without the CDF there would be no democracy today in SLeone". Subject: Re: DEBATE ELECTION ISSUES, NOT AMNESTIED CRIMES! Message: Only a man totally bereft of morality will claim to be upright when his actions show him to be clearly corrupt. John Leigh has no moral compass. Subject: Re: IT WILL HAUNT YOU-KAMAJOR INDEPENDENT MAN Message: Subject: Re: IT WILL HAUNT YOU-KAMAJOR INDEPENDENT MAN Message: Subject: Re: IT WILL HAUNT YOU-KAMAJOR INDEPENDENT MAN Message: Subject: AH! __SLPP ___BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!! Message: Subject: Re: AH! __SLPP ___BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!! Message: Subject: Alieu,The furiousTRANFORMED KAMAJOR Message: Subject: Re: ATTY. RUF MUSA KAMARA Message: The Kamajors also formed genuine alliances with other community defence groups around the entire country for nationwide local protection. These alliances comprised our proud former Civil Defence Force. Without the CDF there would be no democracy today in SLeone. Moreover, every female in SLeone including the girl-child, missionaries, aged grandmothers, the insane in our lunatic asylum, etc. would have been raped 100 times over or held in sexual servitude/bondage like the coupligans did to protesting female students in 1997; death and disease would be rampant across our land; people would be sucking breeze for dinner as food security wouldn't exist; our embassies would be as corrupt as ever dealing in fraudulently obtained visas, duty-free liquor, passports, consular fees, etc; Blood thirsty Dahkpana Charles Taylor would today be the Empror of SLeone & Greater Liberia (up to the Sewa River) instead of sitting in jail awaiting trial for war crimes and crimes against humanity; and our people would be living as if the Stone Age never left SLeone. Of course, hip-hopping criminal opportunists used the AFRC/RUF created mayhem to commit all sorts of crimes and pretending to be kamajors for effect. Mr. Attorney, its time for you to raise the white flag on personal attacks and start debating issues relevant to the election. Thank you. -JL Subject: Re: ATTY. RUF MUSA KAMARA Message: Subject: Re: ATTY. RUF MUSA KAMARA Message: Subject: Re: Alieu,The furiousTRANFORMED KAMAJOR Message: Subject: AN EXAMPLE OF PATRIOTIC LEADERSHIP FOR SL'S CLUELESS LEADERS Message: May 2, 2007 Chávez Takes Over Foreign-Controlled Oil Projects in Venezuela By SIMON ROMERO SAN FELIPE, Venezuela, May 1 — President Hugo Chávez on Tuesday seized control of the last remaining oil projects in Venezuela controlled by large American and European energy companies. The move to take over the projects, announced in January, is the centerpiece of recent actions aimed at consolidating his government's control over the economy. Dressed in red fatigues, Mr. Chávez delivered a fiery speech at the coastal oil refining complex of Jose, denouncing America's economic influence before thousands of supporters also clad in red, the color of his revolution. "Today is the end of that era when our natural riches ended up the hands of anyone but the Venezuelan people," Mr. Chávez said during the speech, while speaking glowingly of important allies like Iran, a fellow OPEC member. Venezuela's control over the oil-production projects, which are in the Orinoco region in the country's interior and worth an estimated $30 billion, will weaken companies like Exxon Mobil, Chevron and ConocoPhillips in one of the world's most promising oil exploration regions. Venezuela is allowing the private companies to remain as minority partners, but the companies are still far from reaching agreements on compensation for the loss of their assets. The seizure of control is expected to have little immediate impact on oil exports to the United States, the leading buyer of Venezuela's oil despite deteriorating political ties. The United States has steadily diversified its oil sources since a decade ago when Venezuela, which boasts the largest conventional oil reserves outside the Middle East, vied with Saudi Arabia as the country's leading supplier of oil. Venezuela's oil production has stagnated in recent years and now accounts for about 10 percent of American crude oil imports, ranking behind Canada, Mexico and Saudi Arabia. Seizing on the symbolic potential of the May Day holiday, Mr. Chávez also said this week that Venezuela would end its affiliation with the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank. Venezuela recently paid off its loans from the organizations. Venezuela, which is benefiting from high oil prices even as its oil industry is hampered by low investment, has been seeking to counter the influence of the I.M.F. and the World Bank in Latin America by lending billions of dollars to other countries and trying to create a development bank. Like the I.M.F.'s 184 other member nations, Venezuela is a shareholder in the institution. Mr. Chávez can take back his country's $4 billion stake by withdrawing from the I.M.F. Copyright 2007 The New York Times Company __._,_.___ Subject: Re: AN EXAMPLE OF PATRIOTIC LEADERSHIP FOR SL'S CLUELESS LEADERS Message: Subject: Re: AN EXAMPLE OF PATRIOTIC LEADERSHIP FOR SL'S CLUELESS LEADERS Message: And it is this fool Berewa WHO HAS THE LIBA TO SAY HE WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT of SaLone. Subject: Re: AN EXAMPLE OF PATRIOTIC LEADERSHIP FOR SL'S CLUELESS LEADERS Message: You are welcome. It is indeed gall of the highest order for a co-conspirator in the devastation of SL's economy like the clueless President Kabbah's faithful follower Solomon Berewa, to put himself forward as capable of running anything, much less a country like ours which, at this point, needs competent and morally upright leadership. Case in point: The Colonial Mentality-afflicted Berewa is so bereft of self-esteem, not to mention patriotism, that he openly announced with pride the surrender of SL's mineral resources to the corrupt IMF last year, as was accurately noted here earlier today. What I find even more surprising is that SL's longstanding cabal of unpatriotic opportunists are busy promoting the catastrophic impoverishment of the people of SL that will be visited upon them in the millions the event of a Berewa presidency. Subject: Re: AN EXAMPLE OF PATRIOTIC LEADERSHIP FOR SL'S CLUELESS LEADERS Message: I am talking about the most stupid lawyer imaginable --the SLPP candidate Solomon Berewwa who was outwitted by the fonethobah Foday Sankoh at the Lome peasce talks into agreeing to make Sankoh Vice President. Berewa, who says he is a lawyer, did not even know what a form 4 flunky would know -- that Salone's constu=itution only allows one VP! You are right that it is this foolooloo Berewa who has the liba to say he wants to be president of Salone! Subject: Re: AN EXAMPLE OF PATRIOTIC LEADERSHIP FOR SL'S CLUELESS LEADERS Message: I believe there 's a distinction between "rank" or "status" of a Vice President and "the Vice President". In the same vein, certain ambassadors (and other high-ranking officials)are sometimes accorded cabinet rank. In fact Dick Cheney, US Vice President is member of George Bush's cabinet only by virtue of being accorded that rank. Foday Sankoh was not, as you assert, made VP; he was given a position that carried the rank of a VP, the significance being that he was answerable to the President. Now, getting to the substance of your post: Why was Sankoh thus rewarded by the Lome Accord? Well, most Sierra Leoneans were understandably unhappy with the Lome Peace Agreement at first blush. But, the unimaginable suffering of Sierra Leoneans and the brutal killing of innocent citizens simply had to end; and Lome provided what many knew to be a slim second chance for peace in Sierra Leonel, one that would finally end the bloody RUF rebellion; paradoxically, because of this sense of desperation, the RUF was in a better negotiating position; it could and did bluff about going back to the bush if it did not get its way:power sharing was its principal buzzword. It knew very well that the Govt could not defeat it militarily and also could not allow the suffering and mayhem to continue, so it stuck (pardon the pun) to its guns. The Govt., on the other hand, knew and in fact had been told by the IC that it was Lome or bust: there had to be some kind of agreement to end the fighting. The Govt negotiated the best deal it could under the circumstances, knowing full well that a blanket amnesty and power sharing involved risks. However, the alternative: no agreement, a resumption of hostilities and a likely abandonment by the IC was far worse. But still Lome could have worked-- many people seem to forget that the TRC was a creature of the Lome Accord. There were strategies and innstitutions in place for the peace to be sustained. All the same, through Lome, the Govt. of Sierra Leone, led by Solomon Berewa negotiated the end of the conflict and successfully brought peace to SL. Lome unravelled not because of the Govt, but Sankoh. Still, the Govt. presided over a difficult process that brought eventual peace to SL, and an ongoing process that is slowly rebuilding macro-economic stability, incresing growth and development and reducing poverty. Even during the height of the war, Sierra Leone was experiencing growth rates of over 6% for several years in a row.]In time, as ongoing reforms progress, we will begin to see the improvements in basic quality of life areas we all yearn for. That is, if the SLPP and Solomon Berewa are victorious in 2007. Only they can provide thre continuity required to see the foundations for development they have laid come to fruition. Subject: Re: AN EXAMPLE OF PATRIOTIC LEADERSHIP FOR SL'S CLUELESS LEADERS Message: Subject: Re: AN EXAMPLE OF PATRIOTIC LEADERSHIP FOR SL'S CLUELESS LEADERS Message: I now see why somebody said that you blind apologists will say anything to shield your corrupt SLPP party from the truth, like Berewa selling out Salone's minerals to the enemy os Salone, the IMF. That makes Berewa a candidate to be tried for treason. Next, look at you trying top talk rubbish about IMF being equal to APC. Was it not the SLPP leader who brought the IMF to devalue the Salone currency when he introduced his two-tier system in 1979, as minister of finace in Siaka Stevens' govt? Did you miss that fact, Mr. Blind SLPP supporter? Like I said already, the SLPP has sold out outr minerals to foreigners. Therefore, Berewa should be tried by the people of Salone for TREASON. Subject: Re: AN EXAMPLE OF PATRIOTIC LEADERSHIP FOR SL'S CLUELESS LEADERS Message: That is very correct, Patriot. I had just entered FBC then, and I reemeber it like it was today. Two years before that, I was at Albert Academy when we demonstrated against Bandele Stevens. Even sonme APC ministers were saying that it was the SLPP which had put us up to demonstrate against Stevens APC. So, imaginfe how mad we were when the SLPP leaders like JUsu Sheriif and Minah joined the criminal Bandele's government. And yes, it was Jusu Sheriff himselfd who was Minister of Finance when the Leone was devalued by 100%. He did cal, it two-tier system to fool people. But God will pay the SLPP and the APC who TOGETHER started ruining salone in 1979. Subject: Re: AN EXAMPLE OF PATRIOTIC LEADERSHIP FOR SL'S CLUELESS LEADERS Message: Indeed, the even more clueless Berewa actually announced to the world on October 12, 2006, at the UN Peace Building Commission meeting held in New York, that the government of SL had handed over its constitutional authority to negotiate the contracts for SL's diamond, gold and other minerals to a notoriously corrupt foreign entity -- the IMF. Subject: Re: AN EXAMPLE OF PATRIOTIC LEADERSHIP FOR SL'S CLUELESS LEADERS Message: Subject: Re: AN EXAMPLE OF PATRIOTIC LEADERSHIP FOR SL'S CLUELESS LEADERS Message: As you know, SL's economy has been progressively devastated by a parade of clueless governments since the government first succumbed to the fraudulent prescr1ptions of the IMF in 1979. So, the answer to your question is in the negative. However, this has nothing to do necessarily with the change in corporate structure of the SLST to NDMC. While it is necessary for S/Leoneans to control their natural resources, that is not a sufficient condition for development. Development will occur only when the institutions under S/Leonean control are managed by competent and morally upright S/Leoneans. That would be hard to achieve as long as the SL government remains under the sway of very corrupt and clueless individuals. That has been the problem from the APC regime of President Siaka Stevens to the current ceven more clueless administration of President Ahmad Kabbah and his Like-minded Vice President, Solomon Berewa. I hope the above information adequately addresses your question. Subject: Re: AN EXAMPLE OF PATRIOTIC LEADERSHIP FOR SL'S CLUELESS LEADERS Message: As you know, SL's economy has been progressively devastated by a parade of clueless governments since the government first succumbed to the fraudulent prescr1ptions of the IMF in 1979. So, the answer to your question is in the negative. However, this has nothing to do necessarily with the change in corporate structure of the SLST to NDMC. While it is necessary for S/Leoneans to control their natural resources, that is not a sufficient condition for development. Development will occur only when the institutions under S/Leonean control are managed by competent and morally upright S/Leoneans. That would be hard to achieve as long as the SL government remains under the sway of very corrupt and clueless individuals. That has been the problem from the APC regime of President Siaka Stevens to the current ceven more clueless administration of President Ahmad Kabbah and his Like-minded Vice President, Solomon Berewa. I hope the above information adequately addresses your question. Subject: Re: AN EXAMPLE OF PATRIOTIC LEADERSHIP FOR SL'S CLUELESS LEADERS Message: NMDC became a place for the corrupt politicians to put thie party members and other supporters whom they could not give cabinet posts. So square pegs trief to fit into round holes. The failure of NDMC was a foregone conclusion because of that. Subject: Alieu,dont get furious,we know you are a TRANFORMED KAMAJOR Message: Subject: Re: Alieu,dont get furious,we know you are a TRANFORMED KAMAJOR Message: Subject: WE SHOULD NEVER TREAT HON. ERNEST KOROMA WITH ANY SERIOUSNES Message: In his recent visit to the United States Of America , the questionable leader of the All Peoples Congress(A.P.C), Hon. Ernest Bai Koroma said that when he wins the next presidential elections, he will put in motion a cabinet that will comprise of technocrats in his party.Mr. Koroma must remember that past leaders of the A.P.C. had appointed high calibre technocrats, like Dr. Abdulai Conteh, Dr. Fasuluku Suku-Tamba and Dr. Tom Kargbo ( to name a few) to political offices but at the end of their tenure they woefully failed to deliver the goods in the interest of the country and its people. The technocrats failed simply because they refused to understand that, politics is about people and therefore a "POLITICIAN IS SOMEBODY WHO HAS THE ABILITY TO MAKE AN IMPROVEMENT IN THE LIVES OF HIS PEOPLE". To the A.P.C. technocrats, politics is about" Me, Myself and I", therefore they will never put the interest of the country and its people first. The job of a minister is to be an intermediary between his or her ministry and the cabinet,each ministry has well trained and qualified technocrats(as professional heads). The next president of Sierra Leone must be willing only to appoint the most suitable Sierra Leoneans to hold political offices. It will be best for the next president to put aside party affiliation and properly examine each aspirant for a public office by their past records. At this moment we need leaders with proven records. We want politicians who can make a difference in people's lives. I know that Hon. Ernest Koroma is ready to reward his friends who made him leader of the APC, outside the party's constitution with ministerial appointments, if he wins the elections. I will like Mr. Koroma to keep in his mind the fact our people have properly examined his past records and they found the following: That Hon. Ernest Koroma is a direct disciple of Siaka Stevens and Jamil Sahid Mohamed (BOTH MEN WHO DESTROYED OUR COUNTRY). Mr. Koroma's adopted father, Pa Siaka, introduced him to Jamil and Jamil took him (Ernest) to the Reliance Insurance company (a subsidiary of the Sierra Fishing company,which is jointly owned by the government of Sierra Leone and the PMMC). Hon. Ernest Koroma was brought to Reliance Insurance Company, primarily to seek the personal interest of Mr. Jamil Sahid Mohamed. Acting on the instructions of Jamil, Mr. Koroma was paying the company's dividend into Jamil's personal account. By that unlawful means, Mr. Koroma was able amass a lot of wealth, which he used to buy the position of leader of the APC, unconstitutionally. I am sure that, since, Hon. Ernest Koroma can not win the leadership of his party, there is no way he will win the leadership of Sierra Leone .We the true loving people of Sierra Leone do not want the sad and tyrannic days of Siaka Stevens and Jamil to come back that is why we call on every Sierra Leonean not to treat Hon. Ernest Koroma with any seriousness because he lacks what it takes to be a good president of Sierra Leone . Subject: I WANT TO EAT CASSAVA LEAVES Message: Subject: Quoting John Leigh - from his websites Message: When Berewa stepped forward, he didnt step down. Now he says Berewa is the best candidate in Sierra Leone. John Leigh again "...The wholesale rush by SLPP bigwigs to stage a snap Nominating Convention in Makeni on barely three days’ Notice is... one of our country’s most ignominious, reckless and shameful power grab. And now...he says that SLPP is the best party John Leigh on President Kabbah John Leigh the flip-flopper. Is this the kind of leadership we are looking for? Subject: Re: Quoting John Leigh - from his websites Message: You are confusing pre-convention politics with post-convention politics. They are two different things and all of this was discussed months ago in this forum. Why don't you go to the archives and get an education? "When Berewa stepped forward, he didnt step down. Now he says Berewa is the best candidate in Sierra Leone." You are stupid! Berewa was there before me. He did not step forward after my declaration. Besides, didn't Berewa win at Makeni? That made all the difference. So I am supporting him because he is far superior to the other candidates. Compared to Koroma and Maggai Berewa is the best. Who do you think is the best presidential candidate other than Berewa? "And now...he says that SLPP is the best party". SLPP is far superior to APC, PMDC, etc. Intra-party debate is one thing. Inter-party comparisons are a completely different matter. Which do you think is the best party other than SLPP? The party of marginalizers? Poverty spreaders? Ekutay frolickers? Or the secretive, one-manic ownership alphabet soup party of hip hoppers and flip floppers, harlot opportunists, dumbo politicians, junior tribalists, remedials and flunkies, ETC.? Man, your intelligence is substandard. You are as feeble-minded as the Frog Doctor with his single dunce frog experiment. "John Leigh on President Kabbah Have you ever sat at meetings at UN general Assembly? Show me the lasting effect that 99% of presidential speeches have had on the world! Merely because I raised issues within my party does not mean I should jump ship and associate with foolumunkus who can't think and understand the essentials of modern day democracy. No wonder a foolumunku party took serious people for granted only to be terribly shocked into sour grapes recriminations. Man, you are dense. "John Leigh the flip-flopper. Is this the kind of leadership we are looking for? Abu" I still hold on to my views. I have changed none. Also, I have not changed my party. So where is the flip flopping? You do not understand what flip-flopping is. Man, your are poorly read and empty-headed. All these were discussed months ago. Where were you? Or are you on the same old, same old rejected stuff? Goodbye to your flunkey dunce argumentation. - JL Subject: Re: Quoting John Leigh - from his websites Message: John Leigh: You are proving the point that you are a flip-flopper who flops from "pre-convention" to "post-convention!" In other words, Abu Baryoh is right about you! Leigh, you are a really corrupt individual whose rotten character is rivaled only by your selfish opportunism. Take a look at your "pre-convention" and post convention" nonsense talk. Let me ask you, Leigh: Do your values change from day to day or wek to week? Or do they change by your prerception of the opportunity you see fror yourself? Whether it was pre-or pos-convention, when you told the world that would step down for a better man, the fact that you did not step down for Berewa means that you did not consider your current hero Berewa a better man during the conbention. So, now that you have eaten your words by supporting the same Berewa, the only conclusion is that you are doing so because you disgracefully lost the SLPP nomination to Berewa. And there is no better evidence of your corrupt minf and corrupt morals than your opportunidtic ans unprincipled flip-flop for your purely selfish interest. You are totally morally bankrupt, John Leigh. Subject: Re: Quoting John Leigh - from his websites Message: Subject: Re: Quoting John Leigh - from his websites Message: Subject: Re: Quoting John Leigh - from his websites Message: Subject: Re: Quoting John Leigh - from his websites Message: Subject: Re: Quoting John Leigh - from his websites Message: Subject: Re: Quoting John Leigh - from his websites Message: Subject: Re: Quoting John Leigh - from his websites Message: Subject: Re: Quoting John Leigh - from his websites Message: Subject: Re: Quoting John Leigh - from his websites Message: Subject: Re: Quoting John Leigh - from his websites Message: Subject: John Leigh Claims to be a Medical Doctor - Impersonation Message: He has been comfronted by many people on this forum who have told him that only medical doctors can pronounce people's health condition. John Leigh has refused a=to accept and in fact has stated in another posting that he actually took some classes in CPR and First Aid and can therefore make such pronouncements. Well, a background information reveals that John Leigh was a Certified Nursing Assistant (CNA), while he was an illegal immigrant here..but that liscense expired since. Subject: Re: John Leigh Claims to be a Medical Doctor - Impersonation Message: Subject: Re: John Leigh Claims to be a Medical Doctor - Impersonation Message: I had first class push scholarships funded by the African-American Institute, etc. from the day of my departure from Freetown to the day of my return home with an MBA. So you are talking trash. If I stop responding to flunkey trash like yours, don't be surprised. GOODBYE. - JL Subject: Re: John Leigh Claims to be a Medical Doctor - Impersonation Message:
From: "john leigh"
Subject: Re: ARE ACADEMIC DEGREES THE STAPLE FOR LEADERSHIP?
To: jmusa10472@aol.com, Leonenet@lists.umbc.edu, Leonenet@listproc.umbc.edu, pmdcsl@yahoogroups.com, SALONEDiscussion@yahoogroups.com, kabbiekanu@yahoo.com
public interest of the sort you have raised. If you
wish to include me in discussing matters pertaining to
the 2007 elections, please kindly introduce such
matters under your name in the Cocorioko Forum.
Cocorioko Forum for it is open to one and all.
after posting and reading other postings of your
choice, you won't waste your time receiving useless or
unwanted submissions or deleting a whole bunch of
messages. You just shut down your computer.
Cocorioko's archives for previous postings of
interest.
of Mr. Ernest Koroma. More stuff will be coming from
me.
JL
--- jmusa10472@aol.com wrote:
> CV, please check for any indication as to where he
> obtained either his graduate education or his
> professional training in insurance. I understand he
> may have had a scholarship from Sahid Jamil who
> dispatched him to a neighboring country for his
> post-BA training. Let's see what institution trained
> him and the duration. "
>
> Dear Ambasador Leigh:
> I read the above assertion at the Cocorioko forum
> with mortification. While not yet enrolled there, I
> have been recently reading with attention some
> statements in national debate concerning who is fit
> to rule. If you desire to know about Candidate
> Koroma's academic attainments, would you not be
> asking himself or someone from his office such as
> the Hon. Alpha Kanu, the Chief Spokesman for the
> Candidate? A direct request promotes candour in
> wanting to really learn what his qualifications are.
>
> The absolute truthful CV of the Hon. Ernest Bai
> Koroma maybe obtained from Parliament or himself.
> You know quite well the Best Evidence rule is the
> thing itself - not from the internet or from biased
> partisans. I have often heard it said by you in
> various avenues that Charles Margai allegedly failed
> in Form Four. That he is "flunky". His supporters
> "fulumuckus," "san san boys" among other such
> unsavory remarks regarding his singular achievement
> to establish a political party as is his wont or the
> right of others to support him.
>
> Ambassador Leigh, are these the delamations of a
> public servant hitherto an Ambassador with an
> unbridled tongue against bad politicians? Is this
> the language of debate for a man once regarded as an
> aspiring candidate for the SLPP? Would a public
> servant formerly in the diplomatic corps with great
> achievement in that office, crouch this down outside
> civility and public discourse? Do you know anybody
> in the SLPP who talks in this unguarded,
> unrestrained manner against opposing politicians
> without let or hindrance?
>
> Ambassador Leigh, baseless, alarming and acrimonious
> assertions about the EDUCATIONAL qualifications of
> candidates are but a diversion from the object of
> the campaign - We want to know what the APC, PMDC or
> the SLPP will accomplish to maintain a well-ordered
> society and economic development among the veritable
> indicia of leadership?
>
> Soon, the NEC will consider the nominations under
> the Constitution and the Electoral Laws Act (No. 6)
> of 2002. If NEC is satisfied that the putative
> candidates have the mettle under the law, their
> names will be published in an Extraordinary Gazette
> for the public scrutiny.
>
> Acordingly, why not approach the Hon. Alpha Kanu and
> Candidate Ernest Bai Koroma, to stem the bane of
> your assertion that Jamil Sahid sent him to school.
> The most reliable manner of obtaining a person's CV,
> thus is from himself especially when he is a public
> figure or a public official, if one were to avoid
> defaming such persons under the the New York Times
> v. Sullivan Rules. In that light, if someone from
> the PMDC or the APC desired to know the academic
> qualifications of John Ernest Leigh, I'll direct
> them to Mr. Leigh himself to avoid speculation and
> tendentious carping about the real thing.
>
> Also, does it matter if a candidate for any office
> possessed academic degrees as we have been reading
> ad nauseam. Great American Presidents never
> possessed tertiary or any degree at all, yet they
> acquitted themselves well. Winston Churchchill
> never possessed such qualifications. There were
> many more British Prime Ministers without Oxford or
> Cambridge degrees, yet became great PMs.
>
> Au contraire, many Sierra Leonean HIGHLY educated
> politicians have been charged with poor performance
> in office in spite of their academic achievements.
> Mr. Kabbah being the worst President ever in our
> republic is considered insularly well-educated. He
> has a fine resume as Personnel Director at the UNDP
> as well. So, the proper inquiry is, does possession
> of high degrees lead to good performance in office?
>
>
> In some cases, higher education as contributed to
> better performance. In many ases, that very
> education has been inversely proportional to their
> performance in office. Take a look at James
> MacGregor Burns' book on Leadership. It is a
> classic work read by most politicians who succeed in
> office. His and great writers like him have said
> again and again that academic education is desirable
> but not necessary to lead. A respected British
> constitutional scholar has averred that a leader
> need not possess academic degrees to achieve great
> strides in office.
>
> Thus, in the next elections, we shall be looking to
> elect a person of the successful corporate
> executive, the Hon. Ernest Koroma, the eminent
> attorney Charles Margai or the good criminal lawyer
> Solomon Berewa to State House. None has a graduate
> degree but each won the nomination of his party and
> has a following of avid supporters. If academic
> degrees were to be the forte and standard for
> presidential timbre, any Sierra Leonean with a a
> high degree, will suffice.
>
> But our Constitution requires nary a degree to be
> qualified to stand in any election. The plain fact
> is that the voters will not be looking for a Ph.D,
> J.D., M.D. MBA, DDS, DD to be elected to State
> House. They will be guided by the elementary rules
> governing CHOICE. In the mind of most Sierra
> Leoneans, the touchstone for qualification for
> President is that you be a CITIZEN of some measure
> in publi affairs. In fact, the Constitution of
> Sierra Leone requires this basic qualification:
>
> 41. No person shall be qualified for election as
> President unless he—
> a. is a citizen of Sierra Leone;
> b. is a member of a political party;
> c. has attained the age of forty years; and
> d. is otherwise qualified to be elected as a Member
> of Parliament.
>
>
> In the eyes of the APC, the PMDC and the SLPP, the
> Hon. Ernest Bai Koroma, Mr. Charles Francis Margai
> and Mr. Solomon Ekuma Berewa are pre-eminently
> qualified to lead their respective parties. On July,
> 28, 2007, we in turn must decide whether we agree
> with these political party choices. Insulting
> Charles Margai or discounting his education will not
> cause the NEC to disqualify him from candidature.
> Inveighing Ernest Koroma's education will not stir
> the NEC to jettison him from standing in the
> elections. Saying Berewa has no Ph.D or Master's
> degree won't cause the NEC to call up his critics to
> be his substitute for SLPP candidate.
>
> The thing we must do is to hold the candidates' feet
> to the metaphysical fire about what they will
> achieve in office and whether they will ensure that
> they will govern in accordance with the existing
> constitution rather than whether they graduated from
> college.
>
> Above all, the thing to keep in mind are the
> following election guidelines for a fair campaign in
> the Electoral Laws Act 2002:
>
> 117. Every candidate or political party shall, in an
> election campaign—
>
> a. respect and take into account the fundamental
> principles of State policy set forth in Part II of
> the Constitution; and
>
> b. carry out the campaign in keeping with ethical
> and moral standards and the respect due to the other
> candidates and political parties and the electorate
> of Sierra Leone. Prohibitions during election
> campaigns.
>
> 118. No candidate or political party shall during
> the campaign period—
>
> a. insult or defame another candidate or political
> party;
>
> b. abuse or engage in the improper use of Government
> property for political propaganda purposes;
>
> c. campaign in public offices or educational
> institutions during working hours or hours of
> instruction.
>
> Ambassador Leigh, will you observe sections 117 and
> 118 and the franchise of free and fair elections,
> instead of whether the candidates HOLD degrees?
>
> I look forward to debating these issues with you
> soon.
>
> Best regards,
> John Lansana Musa
>
________________________________________________________________________
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From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 11:27:03 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-1d8472d5.01-32-73746f42.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se at 213.114.132.29
Unfortunately, we should not take it as given that MR. Musa either expects responses from those most directly affected , or would like to take part in our forum discussion here - and so we could be discussing what Mr. John Lansana Musa has said and not be dwellling unproductively and too unnecessarily on the person or personality of the venerable Mr. Musa.
> From: jmusa10472@aol.com
> Date: 2007/05/03 to PM 11:44:21 CEST
> To: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com, Leonenet@lists.umbc.edu,
> Leonenet@lists.umbc.edu, pmdcsl@yahoogroups.com,
> SALONEDiscussion@yahoogroups.com, kabbiekanu@yahoo.com
> Ämne: [Leonenet] ARE ACADEMIC DEGREES THE STAPLE FOR LEADERSHIP?
>
> "Doc, if you get the chance to look at EBKoroma's CV, please check for any
> indication as to where he obtained either his graduate education or his
> professional training in insurance. I understand he may have had a
> scholarship from Sahid Jamil who dispatched him to a neighboring country
> for his post-BA training. Let's see what institution trained him and the
> duration. "
>
> Dear Ambasador Leigh:
> I read the above assertion at the Cocorioko forum with mortification.
> While not yet enrolled there, I have been recently reading with attention
> some statements in national debate concerning who is fit to rule. If you
> desire to know about Candidate Koroma's academic attainments, would you not
> be asking himself or someone from his office such as the Hon. Alpha Kanu,
> the Chief Spokesman for the Candidate? A direct request promotes candour in
> wanting to really learn what his qualifications are.
>
> The absolute truthful CV of the Hon. Ernest Bai Koroma maybe obtained from
> Parliament or himself. You know quite well the Best Evidence rule is the
> thing itself - not from the internet or from biased partisans. I have
> often heard it said by you in various avenues that Charles Margai allegedly
> failed in Form Four. That he is "flunky". His supporters "fulumuckus,"
> "san san boys" among other such unsavory remarks regarding his singular
> achievement to establish a political party as is his wont or the right of
> others to support him.
>
> Ambassador Leigh, are these the delamations of a public servant hitherto an
> Ambassador with an unbridled tongue against bad politicians? Is this the
> language of debate for a man once regarded as an aspiring candidate for the
> SLPP? Would a public servant formerly in the diplomatic corps with great
> achievement in that office, crouch this down outside civility and public
> discourse? Do you know anybody in the SLPP who talks in this unguarded,
> unrestrained manner against opposing politicians without let or hindrance?
>
> Ambassador Leigh, baseless, alarming and acrimonious assertions about the
> EDUCATIONAL qualifications of candidates are but a diversion from the
> object of the campaign - We want to know what the APC, PMDC or the SLPP
> will accomplish to maintain a well-ordered society and economic development
> among the veritable indicia of leadership?
>
> Soon, the NEC will consider the nominations under the Constitution and the
> Electoral Laws Act (No. 6) of 2002. If NEC is satisfied that the putative
> candidates have the mettle under the law, their names will be published in
> an Extraordinary Gazette for the public scrutiny.
>
> Acordingly, why not approach the Hon. Alpha Kanu and Candidate Ernest Bai
> Koroma, to stem the bane of your assertion that Jamil Sahid sent him to
> school. The most reliable manner of obtaining a person's CV, thus is from
> himself especially when he is a public figure or a public official, if one
> were to avoid defaming such persons under the the New York Times v.
> Sullivan Rules. In that light, if someone from the PMDC or the APC desired
> to know the academic qualifications of John Ernest Leigh, I'll direct them
> to Mr. Leigh himself to avoid speculation and tendentious carping about the
> real thing.
>
> Also, does it matter if a candidate for any office possessed academic
> degrees as we have been reading ad nauseam. Great American Presidents
> never possessed tertiary or any degree at all, yet they acquitted
> themselves well. Winston Churchchill never possessed such qualifications.
> There were many more British Prime Ministers without Oxford or Cambridge
> degrees, yet became great PMs.
>
> Au contraire, many Sierra Leonean HIGHLY educated politicians have been
> charged with poor performance in office in spite of their academic
> achievements. Mr. Kabbah being the worst President ever in our republic is
> considered insularly well-educated. He has a fine resume as Personnel
> Director at the UNDP as well. So, the proper inquiry is, does possession of
> high degrees lead to good performance in office?
>
> In some cases, higher education as contributed to better performance. In
> many ases, that very education has been inversely proportional to their
> performance in office. Take a look at James MacGregor Burns' book on
> Leadership. It is a classic work read by most politicians who succeed in
> office. His and great writers like him have said again and again that
> academic education is desirable but not necessary to lead. A respected
> British constitutional scholar has averred that a leader need not possess
> academic degrees to achieve great strides in office.
>
> Thus, in the next elections, we shall be looking to elect a person of the
> successful corporate executive, the Hon. Ernest Koroma, the eminent
> attorney Charles Margai or the good criminal lawyer Solomon Berewa to State
> House. None has a graduate degree but each won the nomination of his party
> and has a following of avid supporters. If academic degrees were to be the
> forte and standard for presidential timbre, any Sierra Leonean with a a
> high degree, will suffice.
>
> But our Constitution requires nary a degree to be qualified to stand in any
> election. The plain fact is that the voters will not be looking for a Ph.D,
> J.D., M.D. MBA, DDS, DD to be elected to State House. They will be guided
> by the elementary rules governing CHOICE. In the mind of most Sierra
> Leoneans, the touchstone for qualification for President is that you be a
> CITIZEN of some measure in publi affairs. In fact, the Constitution of
> Sierra Leone requires this basic qualification:
>
> 41. No person shall be qualified for election as President unless he?
> a. is a citizen of Sierra Leone;
> b. is a member of a political party;
> c. has attained the age of forty years; and
> d. is otherwise qualified to be elected as a Member of Parliament.
>
>
> In the eyes of the APC, the PMDC and the SLPP, the Hon. Ernest Bai Koroma,
> Mr. Charles Francis Margai and Mr. Solomon Ekuma Berewa are pre-eminently
> qualified to lead their respective parties. On July, 28, 2007, we in turn
> must decide whether we agree with these political party choices. Insulting
> Charles Margai or discounting his education will not cause the NEC to
> disqualify him from candidature. Inveighing Ernest Koroma's education will
> not stir the NEC to jettison him from standing in the elections. Saying
> Berewa has no Ph.D or Master's degree won't cause the NEC to call up his
> critics to be his substitute for SLPP candidate.
>
> The thing we must do is to hold the candidates' feet to the metaphysical
> fire about what they will achieve in office and whether they will ensure
> that they will govern in accordance with the existing constitution rather
> than whether they graduated from college.
>
> Above all, the thing to keep in mind are the following election guidelines
> for a fair campaign in the Electoral Laws Act 2002:
>
> 117. Every candidate or political party shall, in an election campaign?
>
> a. respect and take into account the fundamental principles of State policy
> set forth in Part II of the Constitution; and
>
> b. carry out the campaign in keeping with ethical and moral standards and
> the respect due to the other candidates and political parties and the
> electorate of Sierra Leone. Prohibitions during election campaigns.
>
> 118. No candidate or political party shall during the campaign period?
>
> a. insult or defame another candidate or political party;
>
> b. abuse or engage in the improper use of Government property for political
> propaganda purposes;
>
> c. campaign in public offices or educational institutions during working
> hours or hours of instruction.
>
> Ambassador Leigh, will you observe sections 117 and 118 and the franchise
> of free and fair elections, instead of whether the candidates HOLD degrees?
>
> I look forward to debating these issues with you soon.
>
> Best regards,
> John Lansana Musa
> ________________________________________________________________________
corneliushamelberg@bredband.net>
To:
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 0:40:38 +0200
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] ARE ACADEMIC DEGREES THE STAPLE FOR LEADERSHIP?
His monotonously boring critique” without let or hindrance” is what is most
disturbing and Johnny Leigh as the head spokes piece and main SLPP
cock-crower at Cocorioko has been beating his head on Mr. Margai’s early
educational fortunes since the PMDC was founded, and even before he became a
tail to Mr. Berewa and there too, without let or hindrance, quite voluntarily
and perhaps unbeknownst to Uncle Solomon himself.
some of the august African heads of state and some others , to the same pious
scrutiny – and on the surface value of educational attainments (
institutional certification) alone, many of them would be found wanting, and
an embarrassment to the government that Mr. Leigh would like to represent:
Nigeria
(according to domestic and international election observers).
Mr. Leigh’s University on enrolment day. The former improved upon the
achievements of his predecessors for all of nineteen years and the latter,
Yahya Jammeh, has been the source of many blessings to the people of the
Gambia. Unfortunately even with today as Freedom of the Press Day, the
aforementioned Jammeh is holding FATOU JAW-MANNEH (Gambian journalist
domiciled in the US) in detention and she is facing charges of sedition in a
Gambian court, because of an article in which she criticised the Gambia’s
leadership.
is making obeisance to.
should be fitting that your rejoinder to his many transgressions on
Cocorioko, should be posted to that Forum, to rectify some of the damage
already done by Mr. Leigh who may have led some people astray from the aims
and aspirations of the PMDC – not that such aims could be radically improved
if Mr. Margai were to have earned some five PhDs (perhaps concurrently?) all
attained in leadership skills……
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 19:15:04 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] ARE ACADEMIC DEGREES THE STAPLE FOR LEADERSHIP?
" Mr. Kabbah being the worst President ever in our republic is
considered insularly well-educated" ?
as
if in passing that your exam.
yes
but I'd say that still, he's one of the best presidents that Sierra Leone
could
have had.
good years, Mr. Kbbah has taken us through most difficult terrain and times.
From: ADVICE
To: All
Date Posted: 11:33:19 05/04/07 ()
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"and so we could be discussing what Mr. John Lansana Musa has said and not be dwellling unproductively and too unnecessarily on the person or personality of the venerable Mr. Musa."
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 12:37:54 05/04/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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I have made it clear to Mr. Hamelberg that my criticisms of PMDC and its leadership have much more to do than the mere education falings he supposes.
Dear Mr. Hamelberg:
others include: arrogance, haughtiness, secretiveness,
anti-democratic one-manism, private ownership of a
political party for achieving personal goals, family
politics, angering me no-end with repeated attempts at
recruitment, lies, deceit, deception, duplicity,
double-cross, pandering to Fullahs; surrounding one's
self with morons, junior tribalsts and crookish
people; alphabet-soup politics of hip-hopping,
flip-flopping, flim-flamism and much more.
on Cocorioko Forum. I pick and choose which subject
to participate in. Please do not e-mail me debating
subjects. Thank you.
John E. Leigh
--- corneliushamelberg@bredband.net wrote:
> hindrance” is what is most disturbing and Johnny
> Leigh as the head spokes piece and main SLPP
> cock-crower at Cocorioko has been beating his head
> on Mr. Margai’s early educational fortunes since the
> PMDC was founded, and even before he became a tail
> to Mr. Berewa and there too, without let or
> hindrance, quite voluntarily and perhaps unbeknownst
> to Uncle Solomon himself.
...........................................................................................................................................................................................................
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 13:06:01 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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For once and for all,
How do you ( in your own eyes) compare and contrast yourself with Charles Margai (as political survivors)?
A remarkable difference is that whereas he is the leader of the popular PMDC and fulfilling his ambition/dream of being many of his people's main man, you are deemed to be mere fringe appendix to your master Berewa, after opposing him, in the interest of party unity you stepped in line. He continued to persist and you know that he is no Berewa's message boy......
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:19:08 05/04/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-rtc-ae10.proxy.aol.com at 152.163.101.14
If I had wanted to persist in a make-believe world of mumbo-tombo-dumbos, dombolos and foolumunkus, I would have set up my own flunkey, dunce, alphabet-soup secretive, one-manic ownership party of crookish, harlot politicians, tiff-tiff lawyers, junior tribalists and idiots.
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 12:53:07 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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This is to the Forum:
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:10:47 05/04/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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No thanks. JL is not the issue at all. The real issues are the problems and opportunities for national advancement and who among the presidential candidates is best qualified to be our next president.
From: LIAR
To: All
Date Posted: 12:52:27 05/04/07 ()
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"Education is only one among many criticisms."
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 12:21:20 05/04/07 ()
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My impression is that John Lansana Musa was discussing the issue generated and maintained by John Ernest Leigh's presence on this forum - and you've , we've, heard it many times over, about Charles Margia's form four flunkies.
From: Critical Thinker
To: All
Date Posted: 11:14:53 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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As chairman of the country’s Development Assistance Coordination office, Berewa bears a significant amount of responsibility for the failure of country to effectively utilize enormous amounts of donor resources in order to bring tangible benefits to the ordinary sierra leonean. When companies repeatedly under perform CEOs are held accountable. Berewa was the CEO of development assistance in Sierra Leone. He must be held accountable.
From: DACO
To: All
Date Posted: 13:22:42 05/04/07 ()
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DACO
From: Sengbe
To: All
Date Posted: 12:40:43 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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Critical Thinker, what have you done as a S/Leonean to help Berewa serve this function to your satisfaction, especially since you are so eminently qualified to help, instead of complaining from afar?
From: Critical Thinker
To: All
Date Posted: 13:25:36 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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In addition to what Joe Kanga has observed I will add another reason. It is my submission to you that Berewa’s failure is not necessarily the result of the lack of “eminently qualified” Sierra Leoneans needed to help him succeed. Clearly, the government’s failure to tackle institutionalized corruption leaves the country with porous foundation that cannot support the productive activities that donor resources were supposed to be used for. Just where did all the millions of donor funds received after the war go? Why have the effects of this massive inflow of funds not trickled down to Joe Ordinary?
From: Joseph Kanga
To: All
Date Posted: 12:58:43 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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"Critical Thinker, what have you done as a S/Leonean to help Berewa serve this function to your satisfaction, especially since you are so eminently qualified to help, instead of complaining from afar?"
From: Sengbe
To: All
Date Posted: 13:45:10 05/04/07 ()
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jalloh, one does NOT have to be "an official of the SL government in which Berewa is Vice President" to make a contribution to the nation's development, especially if one is eminently qualified to do so.
From: Critical Thinker
To: All
Date Posted: 14:06:54 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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"I guess he is part of the steady stream of do-nothing complainers in detraction."
From: Sengbe
To: All
Date Posted: 14:29:07 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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True that I don't really know you, and what you may be doing to help the country, so let me ask you this question:
From: SLPP APOLOGIST
To: All
Date Posted: 14:37:11 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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"As far as I know, donor funds have been used quite effectively for the intended purposes, as stipulated by the donors, not the purpose you carve out as an enlightened individual."
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 16:54:47 05/04/07 ()
Email Address: ishmael.taylorkamara@kattenlaw.com
Entered From: at 38.117.238.82
1. Can you provide concrete (and credible) evidence of your assertions? Which donors? What were their exact (confirmable) comments? When exactly were they made?
From: SLPP APOLOGIST
To: All
Date Posted: 23:57:52 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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"The difference today is that the SLPP government has undertaken concrete measures gerared towards the eradication of not only corruption, but the causes of corruption."
From: Sengbe
To: All
Date Posted: 15:50:04 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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You are quite correct when you state that I know nothing about the "massive corruption of the SLPP". There is none.
From: SLPP APOLOGIST
To: All
Date Posted: 15:52:01 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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"You are quite correct when you state that I know nothing about the "massive corruption of the SLPP". There is none."
From: Sengbe
To: All
Date Posted: 16:04:45 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: nc-76-0-129-20.dhcp.embarqhsd.net at 76.0.129.20
"...Preoof that like you and the fired John leigh have been told, you are nothing but a blind SLPP apologist. The evidence is in your own corrupt words..."
From: SLPP APOLOGIST
To: All
Date Posted: 16:07:23 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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"Would you mind re-wording your statement quoted above? It makes no sense whatsoever as written.""
From: Joseph Kanga
To: All
Date Posted: 14:03:40 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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Sengbe, do not try to divert attention from your personal failings in not being able to understand what you read by makind spurious allegations about someone you and I do not know.
From: Joseph Kanga
To: All
Date Posted: 14:17:59 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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AGAIN: Please stick to the issues. For a blind SLPP apologist, it is hard to get used used to the truth. But the truth does not go away merely because you wish to blind yourself to its illuminating and liberating light.
From: Sengbe
To: All
Date Posted: 14:15:47 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: nc-76-0-129-20.dhcp.embarqhsd.net at 76.0.129.20
Let me write in Krio so that this borggerdor will comprehend more fully:
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:53:12 05/04/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-rtc-ae10.proxy.aol.com at 152.163.101.14
Sengbe:
From: Sengbe
To: All
Date Posted: 15:28:54 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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I have now shut him off completely, as per your wise advice, Bra John.
From: Joseph kanga
To: All
Date Posted: 15:43:01 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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Sengbe, calling John Leigh wise is like calling the SLPMB TIFFMAM, President Kabbah, leader of the corrupt SLPP an honest man.
From: APC
To: All
Date Posted: 15:45:54 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 67.63.2.157
You are the WISEMAN? OOOH thats interesting coming from a man whose ideas are so out of whack even a fool can see the seams. HA.
BO min man sut U MOT.
From: Joseph Kanga
To: All
Date Posted: 15:50:06 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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"thats interesting coming from a man whose ideas are so out of whack even a fool can see the seams."
From: Independent Observer
To: All
Date Posted: 14:59:56 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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"The SLPMB tiff-tiff imported can is wasting your time."
From: Joseph Kanga
To: All
Date Posted: 14:23:15 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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Sengbe, you seem to have a problem understanding simple english. Maybe you will now take my advice and have someone explain the issue you keep running away, while interjecting irrelevant matters about someone you do not know. Here is it again:
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 11:32:15 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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The question is: Should we give him another chance or will either Ernest or Charles do a better job?
From: Dr. Michel Sho- Sawyer
To: All
Date Posted: 10:42:52 05/04/07 ()
Email Address: michel_sawyer@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-24-99-17-147.hsd1.ga.comcast.net at 24.99.17.147
ONE WORD DESCRIBE WHY SIERRA LEONEAN LEADERS FAILED SIERRA LEONE. "POSITIVE LEGACY"
WHEN WILL WE WAKE UP AND LEARN FROM 46YRS OF MISTAKES. WHEN WE WILL BECOME AN INDUSTRIALIZED NATION
WHEN WILL WE BECOME AND EDUCATED SOCIETY NOT MISEDUCATED SOCIETY.
WHEN WILL WILL MANUFACTURE OUR OWN RAW MATERIALS TO EXPORT INSTEAD OF EXPORTING OUR RAW MATERIAL TO END UP IMPORTING IT AT A HIGHER PRICE.
WHEN WE WILL SET OUT TO EDUCATE OUR PEOPLE TO THINK NATION FIRST, NATION FIRST, NATION FIRST.
WHEN WILL OUR LEADERS STOP BEING THE COLONIAL PUPPETS.
WHEN WILL OUR LEADERS UNITE OUR NATION.
AS A YOUNG MAN, I ASK WHEN FOR I BELIEVE IT WILL HAPPEN BUT WHEN.
MORE ON THIS LATER
KIND REGARDS
DR.MICHEL SHO-SAWYER
From: Santigie Kongoma
To: All
Date Posted: 09:16:26 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 71.250.218.196
Look at some of the people given national honours. This government does not have any class.
From: okdok
To: All
Date Posted: 10:54:39 05/04/07 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
Entered From: wnpgmb11dc1-36-204.dynamic.mts.net at 209.202.36.204
Wow but its sad to hear this.I remember Moses,Kenie,Goerge at Alhaji Mannah,s.house who was my uncle.If you can remember i was the one you personally exchanged an email with when Hilton Fyle was trying to denie his doing at his Radio station.
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 11:19:40 05/04/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear okdok:
From: Anu Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 11:27:29 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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Hey, leigh and your fellow blind SLPP follower, OK doc, can't you blind apologists see that this thread has nothing to do with Leigh's personal relatives?
From: okdok
To: All
Date Posted: 14:01:04 05/04/07 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
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Anu conteh i am sorry but this is a forum for many things not only politics of sierra leone.i guess most of us are just writting about politics but do not really know what we want.Please be kind enough to go your way and live me alone.
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 11:53:45 05/04/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-rtc-ae10.proxy.aol.com at 152.163.101.14
Mr. Conteh:
From: Anu Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 12:31:27 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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It is really simple, leigh: Use your eyes (if you can) to identify the appropriate thread to insert your thoughts.
From: Independent Man
To: All
Date Posted: 13:02:00 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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You just keep changing your name. Soon you will call yourself Cow Belle...... Hahahahahahahaha
From: Anu Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:03:50 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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Please address the issue. Sober people discuss issues. Others discuss people. this forum is for sober people. Please adhere to that mission.
From: Independent Man
To: All
Date Posted: 13:12:12 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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When have you (the guy with 200 or more handles) ever participated in any meaningful debates on this forum? All you do is to attack John Leigh. Get a life!!!!!!
From: Anu Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:14:42 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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"When have you (the guy with 200 or more handles) ever participated in any meaningful debates on this forum? All you do is to attack John Leigh."
From: Independent Man
To: All
Date Posted: 13:40:58 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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Anu/ Abu/Karka/ Amidu/Foday/Gibril, Saso/Yapo/Poyo,......
From: Anu conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:15:23 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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John Who? Man, stop intejecting irelevany personalities into a discussion of issues.
From: Independent Man
To: All
Date Posted: 15:45:22 05/04/07 ()
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Listen here clown,
You use 200 or more handles on this forum to attack JL. Quit doing that and we will take you seriously. Until then, GOOD BYE........
From: Anu conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 15:46:39 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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We will take you seriously if and when you provide the evidence for your sllegations.
From: Independent Man
To: All
Date Posted: 15:48:33 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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sllegations?????
From: Anu Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 15:53:43 05/04/07 ()
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Dishonesty is a laughing matter only to corrupt SLLPers. The defrauded people of Salone do not find it funny.
From: Independent Man
To: All
Date Posted: 16:18:03 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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Bye!!!!!
From: Anu Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 16:20:18 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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Please come back when you don't need a translator. You should be able to undestand the SLPP's corruption better.
From: APC
To: All
Date Posted: 11:31:57 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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What issues? Liegh?
From: SALONED- -Member
To: All
Date Posted: 07:27:34 05/04/07 ()
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Re: ARE ACADEMIC DEGREES THE STAPLE FOR LEADERSHIP?
>" Au contraire, many Sierra Leonean HIGHLY educated politicians have been charged with poor performance in office in spite of their academic achievements. Mr. Kabbah being the worst President ever in our republic is considered insularly well-educated. He has a fine resume as Personnel Director at the UNDP as well. So, the proper inquiry is, does possession of high degrees lead to good performance in office?"
>
John:
Your characteristically lucid analysis in response to your proper question quoted above should adequately lay to rest the common fallacy among far too many S/Leoneans that education is synonymous with knowledge. And that's not a mere academic point. The very practical consequences of a failure to make that crucial distinction are writ large in our country's recent, avoidably sad history.
Specifically, we witnessed the adverse impact of President Siaka Steven's apparent failure to distinguish education from knowledge when he cynically loaded his 1977 cabinet with educated S/Leoneans after he had rigged the elections that he was forced to hold in the wake of the countrywide protests against his APC regime inititiated by students at Fourah bay College earier that year. It is a matter of public knowledge that a year later, those educated ministers led President Stevens' immoral charge to install his APC one-party rule upon traditionally democratic S/Leoneans.
Undoubtedly, it would come as a great surprise to those who equate education with knowledge that at the forefront of that parade of public immorality was Dr. Abdulai Conteh -- a gentlenman with a Ph.D. in law who, four years earlier, had been my impressive law lecturer during my first year in the B.Sc (Econ) program at Fourah Bay College. Like several lecturers at FBC in 1977 including Dr. Joe Jackson, Dr. Conteh unexpectly became one of the many bystanders who enormously benefited from the varied sacrifices of thousands of college students and school children during our unprecedented protests against the notoriously repressive President Stevens' APC government that started in January 1977.
Yet, despite his education, Dr. Conteh failed to requite the sacrifices that we teen-aged college students and the even younger and much more numerous school children had made in initiating a nationawide challenge of President Stevens' unconscionable mismanagement of our country at a time when virtually no S/Leoneans of the older generation dared do so for fear of being called upon to personally sacrifice for the benefit of their country.
But Dr. Conteh is hardly alone in demonstrating the truism that education is not synonymous with knowledge. As you accurately noted: "Au contraire, many Sierra Leonean HIGHLY educated politicians have been charged with poor performance in office in spite of their academic achievements. Mr. Kabbah being the worst President ever in our republic is considered insularly well-educated."
Clearly, there is no necessary correlation between education and good leadership, a point you also noted: "In some cases, higher education as contributed to better performance. In many ases, that very education has been inversely proportional to their performance in office."
Equally clear is the fact that without morality, there can be no knowledge. That was a fundamental truth driven home by the ancient Greek philosopher, Plato, when he defined knowledge as the confluence of learning (formal or informal education) and morality. It was on the basis of that insightful definition that Plato posited what is considered by many to be the most valid rule for choosing a leader, namely:
That the leader of any society must be one who has the most knowledge among his/her compatriots.
Acoordingly, in the few weeks remaining before our country's crucial elections in July, S/Leonean voters who wish to halt our country's nearly half a century-long descent to the cellar of human adevelopment, despite our abundant natural resources, would do well to heed that patriotic exhortation -- if only to finally demonstrate an awareness of the repeatedly demonstrated truism in our country's sad history that education does not equal knowledge.
Best regards,
Moh'm
--- In SALONEDiscussion@yahoogroups.com, jmusa@... wrote on Apr 3, 2007:
>
> "Doc, if you get the chance to look at EBKoroma's CV, please check for any indication as to where he obtained either his graduate education or his professional training in insurance. I understand he may have had a scholarship from Sahid Jamil who dispatched him to a neighboring country for his post-BA training. Let's see what institution trained him and the duration. "
>
> Dear Ambasador Leigh:
> I read the above assertion at the Cocorioko forum with mortification. While not yet enrolled there, I have been recently reading with attention some statements in national debate concerning who is fit to rule. If you desire to know about Candidate Koroma's academic attainments, would you not be asking himself or someone from his office such as the Hon. Alpha Kanu, the Chief Spokesman for the Candidate? A direct request promotes candour in wanting to really learn what his qualifications are.
>
> The absolute truthful CV of the Hon. Ernest Bai Koroma maybe obtained from Parliament or himself. You know quite well the Best Evidence rule is the thing itself - not from the internet or from biased partisans. I have often heard it said by you in various avenues that Charles Margai allegedly failed in Form Four. That he is "flunky". His supporters "fulumuckus," "san san boys" among other such unsavory remarks regarding his singular achievement to establish a political party as is his wont or the right of others to support him.
>
> Ambassador Leigh, are these the delamations of a public servant hitherto an Ambassador with an unbridled tongue against bad politicians? Is this the language of debate for a man once regarded as an aspiring candidate for the SLPP? Would a public servant formerly in the diplomatic corps with great achievement in that office, crouch this down outside civility and public discourse? Do you know anybody in the SLPP who talks in this unguarded, unrestrained manner against opposing politicians without let or hindrance?
>
> Ambassador Leigh, baseless, alarming and acrimonious assertions about the EDUCATIONAL qualifications of candidates are but a diversion from the object of the campaign - We want to know what the APC, PMDC or the SLPP will accomplish to maintain a well-ordered society and economic development among the veritable indicia of leadership?
>
> Soon, the NEC will consider the nominations under the Constitution and the Electoral Laws Act (No. 6) of 2002. If NEC is satisfied that the putative candidates have the mettle under the law, their names will be published in an Extraordinary Gazette for the public scrutiny.
>
> Acordingly, why not approach the Hon. Alpha Kanu and Candidate Ernest Bai Koroma, to stem the bane of your assertion that Jamil Sahid sent him to school. The most reliable manner of obtaining a person's CV, thus is from himself especially when he is a public figure or a public official, if one were to avoid defaming such persons under the the New York Times v. Sullivan Rules. In that light, if someone from the PMDC or the APC desired to know the academic qualifications of John Ernest Leigh, I'll direct them to Mr. Leigh himself to avoid speculation and tendentious carping about the real thing.
>
> Also, does it matter if a candidate for any office possessed academic degrees as we have been reading ad nauseam. Great American Presidents never possessed tertiary or any degree at all, yet they acquitted themselves well. Winston Churchchill never possessed such qualifications. There were many more British Prime Ministers without Oxford or Cambridge degrees, yet became great PMs.
>
> Au contraire, many Sierra Leonean HIGHLY educated politicians have been charged with poor performance in office in spite of their academic achievements. Mr. Kabbah being the worst President ever in our republic is considered insularly well-educated. He has a fine resume as Personnel Director at the UNDP as well. So, the proper inquiry is, does possession of high degrees lead to good performance in office?
>
> In some cases, higher education as contributed to better performance. In many ases, that very education has been inversely proportional to their performance in office. Take a look at James MacGregor Burns' book on Leadership. It is a classic work read by most politicians who succeed in office. His and great writers like him have said again and again that academic education is desirable but not necessary to lead. A respected British constitutional scholar has averred that a leader need not possess academic degrees to achieve great strides in office.
>
> Thus, in the next elections, we shall be looking to elect a person of the successful corporate executive, the Hon. Ernest Koroma, the eminent attorney Charles Margai or the good criminal lawyer Solomon Berewa to State House. None has a graduate degree but each won the nomination of his party and has a following of avid supporters. If academic degrees were to be the forte and standard for presidential timbre, any Sierra Leonean with a a high degree, will suffice.
>
> But our Constitution requires nary a degree to be qualified to stand in any election. The plain fact is that the voters will not be looking for a Ph.D, J.D., M.D. MBA, DDS, DD to be elected to State House. They will be guided by the elementary rules governing CHOICE. In the mind of most Sierra Leoneans, the touchstone for qualification for President is that you be a CITIZEN of some measure in publi affairs. In fact, the Constitution of Sierra Leone requires this basic qualification:
>
> 41. No person shall be qualified for election as President unless heâ€"
> a. is a citizen of Sierra Leone;
> b. is a member of a political party;
> c. has attained the age of forty years; and
> d. is otherwise qualified to be elected as a Member of Parliament.
>
>
> In the eyes of the APC, the PMDC and the SLPP, the Hon. Ernest Bai Koroma, Mr. Charles Francis Margai and Mr. Solomon Ekuma Berewa are pre-eminently qualified to lead their respective parties. On July, 28, 2007, we in turn must decide whether we agree with these political party choices. Insulting Charles Margai or discounting his education will not cause the NEC to disqualify him from candidature. Inveighing Ernest Koroma's education will not stir the NEC to jettison him from standing in the elections. Saying Berewa has no Ph.D or Master's degree won't cause the NEC to call up his critics to be his substitute for SLPP candidate.
>
> The thing we must do is to hold the candidates' feet to the metaphysical fire about what they will achieve in office and whether they will ensure that they will govern in accordance with the existing constitution rather than whether they graduated from college.
>
> Above all, the thing to keep in mind are the following election guidelines for a fair campaign in the Electoral Laws Act 2002:
>
> 117. Every candidate or political party shall, in an election campaignâ€"
>
> a. respect and take into account the fundamental principles of State policy set forth in Part II of the Constitution; and
>
> b. carry out the campaign in keeping with ethical and moral standards and the respect due to the other candidates and political parties and the electorate of Sierra Leone. Prohibitions during election campaigns.
>
> 118. No candidate or political party shall during the campaign periodâ€"
>
> a. insult or defame another candidate or political party;
>
> b. abuse or engage in the improper use of Government property for political propaganda purposes;
>
> c. campaign in public offices or educational institutions during working hours or hours of instruction.
>
> Ambassador Leigh, will you observe sections 117 and 118 and the franchise of free and fair elections, instead of whether the candidates HOLD degrees?
>
> I look forward to debating these issues with you soon.
>
> Best regards,
> John Lansana Musa
From: Amadu Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 07:51:39 05/04/07 ()
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Pastriot, Man, I am glad you posted these two postings from your salonediscussion forum.
From: Leonenetter
To: All
Date Posted: 08:33:31 05/04/07 ()
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I agree with you. The thing that beats my imagination is that Mohm and Musa are not the only good analysts on Sierra leone that we have. You have equally sharp fellow Sierra Leoneans like Jonathan Rose, Dr. Cecil Blake, (who are on the salone discussion forum with Patriot).
From: MUSA KAMARA
To: All
Date Posted: 06:31:28 05/04/07 ()
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One thing I know,your Berewa is not competent for leadership,he is corrupt,has got no vision for our nation.The present status of the state can verify events in details for you.Siaka Stevens(APC) was also corrupt and had its odd moment,but the state was not in a mess as it is today.We are at the bottom of the undp index,more Sierra-Leoneans are going to bed hungry,the country is smelling,zero sanitation,high mortality rate,insecurity etc.You can continue,maybe something is missing..........And they keep on casting blame on the war to distract the nation from their failure.If you need the cv of Hon.Earnest Bai Koroma,please try to find ways to contact him.I cant help you.By the way,have you got the cv of Mr Berewa?
From: CADMUS
To: All
Date Posted: 10:22:44 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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MUSA KAMARA,
From: Aiah Komba
To: All
Date Posted: 11:13:00 05/04/07 ()
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"If Berewa is corrupt, then supply the evidence, if you ever want to be taken seriously."
From: Sengbe
To: All
Date Posted: 12:42:55 05/04/07 ()
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jalloh, one of the problems most of us have with you is your use of words you obviously do not accurately understand. Clearly, you do not understand the meanings of the following words: corruption, evidence, bribery, flip-flop, and terrorizing.
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 07:34:58 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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"We are at the bottom of the undp index,more Sierra-Leoneans are going to bed hungry,the country is smelling,zero sanitation,high mortality rate,insecurity etc".
Dummy we have always been at the Bottom of the "UNDP" index since back when your APC was in Power so whats your point?
From: Researcher
To: All
Date Posted: 07:46:23 05/04/07 ()
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"Dummy we have always been at the Bottom of the "UNDP" index since back when your APC was in Power so whats your point?" -- alieu sesay
From: UNDP
To: All
Date Posted: 10:09:36 05/04/07 ()
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Salone was last in 1991. Salone was fifth to last in early 1997, less than one year after Kabbah's rule. Salone went to last position again after the AFRC carnage. Salone is now swcond to last. Note that other countries like Liberia have opted out of the index claiming that they do not have sufficient data.
From: Researcher
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Date Posted: 10:43:16 05/04/07 ()
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Even though you do not seem to realize it, you are proving the point that throughout the curent SLPP govt. of the incompetent Kabbah and Berewa, Siera Leone has been ranked at or neat the bottom of world development indices -- despite receiving the most masive foreign aid in our country's hisroty.
From: APC
To: All
Date Posted: 09:48:30 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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"By contrast, that was NOT the case during the APC's rule of Salone."
Oh i forgot, nepotism, tribalism, cronism, corruption, and increase in the gap between the haves and the have-not tats what we had to deal with under your Party.
thats one of the reasons why the APC is now the NEW APC.
Ha! You can change the bottle but it is still going to be the same old WINE.
From: SLPP
To: All
Date Posted: 10:52:43 05/04/07 ()
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"Since when in the APC rule/years was sierra leone ever in any confortable position in nything/anywhere?"
Same story for the rest of Freetown -- total darkness interupted by rare light under the SLPP. Like someone said, the SLPP is the worst govt. in Sierra leone's history.
From: APC
To: All
Date Posted: 11:01:14 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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There you go again with your electricity blablablah. SLPP has been in power for bearly over a decade and complete blackout has been a problem for over three decades. Go figure.
From: SLPP
To: All
Date Posted: 11:16:57 05/04/07 ()
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"SLPP has been in power for bearly over a decade and complete blackout has been a problem for over three decades.'
From: APC
To: All
Date Posted: 12:06:03 05/04/07 ()
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"Perhaps you have never lived in Freetwon. It would explain your ignorance of the much better electicity situation in Freetown."
There is the falacy of your arguement. I will say no more.
From: SLPP
To: All
Date Posted: 12:42:57 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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"FREETOWN IS YOUR SALONE!"
From: APC
To: All
Date Posted: 12:58:55 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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YOU are a liar to the highest degree.
From: SLPP
To: All
Date Posted: 13:02:06 05/04/07 ()
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"By the way unlike you, i know Freetown, "
From: APC
To: All
Date Posted: 13:28:45 05/04/07 ()
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Growup PA. I haven't insulted you yet. Keep bringing up irrelevant issues and i will INSULT your F-----' A--for real.(Excuse me ADMIN)
Is that how you debate issues? Or is that one of the several tactics of the APC--Intimidation and YuKI YUKI.
From: SLPP
To: All
Date Posted: 14:33:16 05/04/07 ()
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" You do not know Freetown", "You are Dumb".etc etc.
Is that how you debate issues?:
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 15:42:08 05/04/07 ()
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Jalloh? Why don't you comprehend what you read before replying?
Intelligent people read and understand before debating. The way i see it, you are not debating, you are weeping on this forum like a B----.
From: SLPP
To: All
Date Posted: 15:44:51 05/04/07 ()
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Sengbe, please answer the question you keep running away from: show the evidence for your diversionary allegation.
From: APC
To: All
Date Posted: 15:49:49 05/04/07 ()
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"Sierra leone had reliable electricty for homes and factories under APC rule."
BIGFUL
From: SLPP APOLOGIST
To: All
Date Posted: 15:59:04 05/04/07 ()
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Where in this statement is "FREETOWN ONLY"?
Your problem continues to be your repeatedly demonstrated ignorance of the fact that a discussion of the black out imposed on FBC for the last 10 years by the worst govt. in Salone's history -- the SLPP -- will reference only Freetown.
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:57:46 05/04/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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APC, may I respectfully suggest that you cut off debate with these lowlifers [they are the same people] as soon as you experience diminishing benefits from engaging them. All they have to offer are lies, trash talk and rudeness - and all the time in the world!
From: APC
To: All
Date Posted: 14:31:15 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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Bra Leigh i will listen to you and i am done with this discussion.
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:44:59 05/04/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Thank you very much. - JL
From: SLPP
To: All
Date Posted: 15:14:48 05/04/07 ()
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Thank you very much. - JL
From: SLPP
To: All
Date Posted: 14:41:11 05/04/07 ()
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If only your corrupt SLPP leaders had said a similar thing in the 1996 elections, the people of salone would not today be cursing the SLPP's ten years of poverty, black-outs, no jobs, and suffering.
From: charles
To: All
Date Posted: 15:15:50 05/04/07 ()
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The only person who has no JOB is you. Since you are part why salone is what it is today.
TIFFMAN. You have the no moral right to accuse anyone of corruption when you a CLEPTOMANIAC. Everything you laid hands on went missing.
From: Solomon
To: All
Date Posted: 15:38:15 05/04/07 ()
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"TIFFMAN. You have the no moral right to accuse anyone of corruption when you a CLEPTOMANIAC. Everything you laid hands on went missing."
From: Sengbe
To: All
Date Posted: 15:59:46 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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My father was nowhere near the SLPMB in 1967, and I would appreciate it if you do not mention his name here, as he is deceased, and has been since 1982.
From: Solomon
To: All
Date Posted: 16:03:59 05/04/07 ()
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"Is your own father related to you?"
From: Sengbe
To: All
Date Posted: 16:08:41 05/04/07 ()
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Bo jalloh u too fool for understand insulting parody.
From: Solomon
To: All
Date Posted: 16:11:53 05/04/07 ()
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Sengbe, it is good to see you finally see your limitations and bow out rudely, even if not gracefully.
From: Statistician
To: All
Date Posted: 15:18:59 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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Lef modibo, nar im make warburton kin kick im ass.
From: SLPP
To: All
Date Posted: 14:10:08 05/04/07 ()
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"APC, may I respectfully suggest that you cut off debate with these lowlifers"
From: UNDP INDEX
To: All
Date Posted: 07:55:37 05/04/07 ()
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This idea of you people refering to Sierra Leone at the bottom of the UNDP index has always been troubling for me. Do you have any idea how many countries we have in the world? If you do know the answer to that question, then do you also have any idea how many countries are not even listed on the so called index? If you know the answer to that quwestion as well, then, what should that tell you about Sierra Leone? At least Sierra Leone is on the list.
From: DUMB
To: All
Date Posted: 08:06:51 05/04/07 ()
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What should trouble you more validly is your surprising lack of knowledge. The UNDP index ranks all thre countries in the world, contrary to your uninformed opinion.
From: Dummy
To: All
Date Posted: 18:31:46 05/04/07 ()
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You are more dumb than the word itself. You need to be more educated.You really lack any kind of knowledge at all. Dummy
From: DUMMY
To: All
Date Posted: 23:12:29 05/04/07 ()
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Evidence, dummy, just the evidence is what is needed, not your empty statements.
From: MUSA KAMARA
To: All
Date Posted: 04:25:25 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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If you are from a pathological home we cant help you.I have been monitoring your postings and you have no credible contribution rather than abusive language.You abuse people because they have got their own views and this is just to demonstrate how you are an idiot and primitive.I wont waste my time to read your rubbish again.
From: THAVARISH
To: All
Date Posted: 10:20:22 05/04/07 ()
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Is this the same so call BRITISH Lawyer who could not DEBATE issues of his own speciality?
This guy called himself a Lawyer,but when Alieu raised legal questions to be DISCUSSED,he ran away,because he could not express himself LEGALLY.Now I know why he is always at the GONGORLIE FORUM,because he fells SAFE among the likes of the SAIDU BANGURAs'.
From: CADMUS
To: All
Date Posted: 10:50:57 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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Two points:
1. I have not contributed to the Awareness forum for the past 6 months. In a free and demcratic Sa Lone, I am free do so if I so wish. You can read into that what you may.
From: THAVARISH
To: All
Date Posted: 08:58:32 05/05/07 ()
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"If I had a proper legal Debate on this forum with Alieu,you propably will not understand what we may be talking about anyway,"
Yes,I may not understand some of your Legal Terms,but as a FORM FOUR FLUNKY,I know for fact,after reading most of your posting,you are not only a blind SLPP apologist,you are also a CLASS TWO LAWYER,while the GREAT ALIEU is an "A" level LAWYER.
From: Referee
To: All
Date Posted: 10:54:59 05/04/07 ()
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"We have had our dicussions at various times,over various subject-matters, but me, run-away? You must be kidding. "
From: san san boy
To: All
Date Posted: 02:15:59 05/04/07 ()
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Forumites, please read another of John Leigh's lies; REBUTTAL: Rubbish! "Peace does not happening by itself. Somebody (Prez Kabbah) put the whole package together to ursher us into peace. He harnessed the sacrifices of the "ordinary people" and brought the peacekeepers into SLeone through diplomacy. Berewa negotiated Lome which ended the war by trapping Sankoh, Bockarie, Johnny Paul Koroma, etc. Lome was a pre-condition for UN Peacekeeping. As for me, I did my own two-bit in DC as did many others also elsewhere. It was a team effort"!
The Man is a pathological liar. He does not know that peace keepers were in Sierra Leone before his SLPP spread the war. Do you know that the Gunineans, Nigerians and Ghanaian fought tooth and nail to get rid of the palm fronds rebels in Kailaihun, Gerihun, Daru and other places. You only came into the SLPP mainstream in 1996 after you had bribed your way.
There is no truth in your statement that Kabbah prepared the package for peace. Posterity will hold you responsible for your lies and distortion. Where were Omrie Golley, Johnny Paul Koroma and otehrs who saved the SLPP when Foday Sankoh's fighters attempted to over run Freetown.
You SLPP supporters are full of lies and evil plans for Sierra Leone. The peace package was accepted by all warring factions . The only package Kabbah/Berewa including John Leigh prepared is to nail Hinga Norman and other faction members.
Go back to your drawing board and come back with lies.
Ironically, you are gradually fading out but you are still obssesed with lies, hypocrisy and jealousy.
Any decent man will be ashamed to belong to a party that kills its citizens and reduces its Country to a wretched place on earth inspite of the stupendous help from the International Community.
From: Yaya Fanusie
To: All
Date Posted: 00:31:34 05/04/07 ()
Email Address: futatoro@gmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-166-128-124.washdc.east.verizon.net at 71.166.128.124
John,
You idle oh. Everytime I check forum it is John Leigh XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Brah you just lek for see you name. You have devalued the quality of the name John Leigh. Your obsessive participation is now boderline pathological. You en Berewa an nor which one craise more.
You are becoming a real political jester by your antics which you believed to be interesting viewpoints.
Yaya Fanusie
From: CADMUS
To: All
Date Posted: 11:11:27 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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YAYA FANUSIE,
I notice however that People tend to get to John Leigh in a surreptitious way to get to SLPP, that is where we come in. We will defend our Party come rain or shine.
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 09:39:21 05/04/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dr. Fanusi:
From: Yaya Fanusie
To: All
Date Posted: 13:36:51 05/04/07 ()
Email Address: futatoro@gmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-166-128-124.washdc.east.verizon.net at 71.166.128.124
Mr. Leigh:
The view among peepers is that your postings are dull and
useless. They do not bother to read your stuff. They feel saturated with repeated misrepresentations and intentional deceptive postings. Your postinga are viewed
as useless political tripe. I told them you can not help yourself because your decision making process is flawed and consequently your output is defective.
Yaya Fanusie
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:02:42 05/04/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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I don't care what your stupid peers think and I don't need you to tell me anything about yourself or anyone of them or render any unsolicited free advice. Thank you very much. - JL
From: Yaya Fanusie
To: All
Date Posted: 19:04:55 05/04/07 ()
Email Address: futatoro@gmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-166-128-124.washdc.east.verizon.net at 71.166.128.124
Mr. John Leigh,
You have a Soukous Dance mindset. My peers do not read what you write. I mentioned Peepers. Peepers are those in the forum who read postings but do not post. They are
the judges and their perceptions of us really pay big when come canvassing time. They are the ones my postings are directed at not you or anyone I whose posting I responded to. A reliable source from the Berewa hut informed me that should Berewa win he has promised you the post of Foreign Minister. I am not worried about it because I know it is not going to come about because Berewa is going to lose big time. And extending the election time is not going to help either. As in 1967, one of our APC slogan for Albert was "Albert tie you towel tight!!"
And for you I have a slogan " Borboh Leigh! strap you Diaper! cause come August 11, 2007 it is going to be HEAVY"
Have a nice weekend.
Yaya Fanusie
From: Manners Maketh a Man
To: All
Date Posted: 13:12:21 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
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"Your opinion is not important to me. I spend my time, energy and resources the way I deem fit, regardless of your views and/or advice."
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 23:31:18 05/03/07 ()
Email Address:
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African leaders.
By Ben Agande with agency reports
Posted to the Web: Friday, May 04, 2007
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The honorary council is being co-ordinated by former British minister, Lynda Baronness Chalker, who on the occasion, cautioned the international media against blowing out of proportion the alleged fraud in the last elections in the country.
However, the opposition Action Congress (AC), reacting yesterday to Alhaji Yar’Adua’s statement that he won the presidential election fair and square, described it (Yar’Adua statement) as “an affront, a provocation and an insult on Nigerians.”
Alhaji Yar’Adua at the Honorary International Investors Council (HIIC) meeting said: “The policies, focus and direction of government will continue with the same determination,” noting that members of the council should be rest assured that he would build from where Obasanjo would stop. The president-elect said he believed the establishment of the honorary council was in good faith and in the interest of the speedy development of the country.
Earlier, Chalker had congratulated the president-elect and commended the steps he has so far taken to extend a hand of friendship to members of the opposition.
Dead people voted against me in Britain—Chalker
She said elections had never been perfect in any part of the world, including Europe and the US, noting that she was also a victim of electoral malpractice in Britain when “dead people” voted against her in one of the elections she contested.
Baroness Chalker said some of the allegations trailing the last elections were also obtainable in the advanced countries of Europe and America. Her words: “Let us get rid of the superficial comments and let us help the government of Nigeria, the in-coming government to put right those things which they know are not perfect, which they want to reverse and accept sensible, constructive advice.
“We are impressed with your determination to continue with the excellent work which President Obasanjo has been doing. We welcome you and hope that you will bring experts and technocrats to join real politicians to continue the reform work of Nigeria, ” she said.
Also speaking, President Obasanjo said Nigeria had benefitted from the “experience, contact and knowledge” of the members of the Honorary International Investors Council (HIIC), just as his administration has been open to the council for critique and advice.
Inaugurated on July 6, 2005 in London, the HIIC comprises reputable Nigerian and foreign investors and meets twice yearly within and outside Nigeria.
You don't have Nigerian' mandate, AC tells Yar’Adua
Meanwhile, the Action Congress (AC), yesterday, described as an affront, a provocation and an insult on Nigerians, the claim by Governor Yar’Adua that he has the mandate of Nigerians to take over the Presidency.
The AC in a statement in Abuja said: “The PDP Presidential candidate does not have ‘the mandate of Nigerians’ as no legitimate and credible claim of mandate can be made out of the barefaced cheating and fraud which Maurice Iwu calls an ‘election’ but which the whole world has dismissed as a fiasco, a charade, and the fact of being the worst election ever in Nigeria (some say in Africa).
“The claim of a mandate based on the flawed election is the worst form of insult that anyone can inflict on Nigerians. Nigerians have never expected a ‘perfect election’ as canvassed by the abject apology of the PDP candidate, but the conduct of INEC in the last elections sets Nigeria back by at least 48 years in her electoral history and put the nation on a trajectory of one party, authoritarian rule and possibly the worst form of dictatorship.”
The Action Congress warns that if this fraud and charade were allowed to stand, the PDP would become emboldened to abolish future elections, as there would be no need for any.
President-elect, Alhaji Umaru Yar’Adua, with the
leader of the EU delegation, Graham Elson, at
Aguda House in Abuja, yesterday. Vanguard :
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Posted by DUMB on May 03, 2007 at 22:11:33:
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Mr Leigh can you please tell me where your youngest and last brother George Moigula is?I know kenei and margeret used to be in Bo.
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okdok: George is dead. He was shot dead by the RUF on the pathway between Koidu and Beudu shortly after the first RUF's occupation of Kono. RIP. - JL
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In an effort to demonstrate the "peggyism" associated with the APC flagbearer, as depicted by the Honourable John E. Leigh, in terms of Jamil al Sahid, please allow me to re-post an article I wrote regarding the patriarchal nature of the relationships between the new APC, the old APC, and the Lebanese community in Sa Lon, and other connections.
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"...Nabi Berri is the main one in Beirut, and he is also fronting for the Syrians in Damascus.
From: John E. Leigh
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"Bra John, you may take over from here, if you'd like[re peggyism]." - Sengbe
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And Walid Jumblatt?
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It seems to me, that when the SLPP people talk about the APC, they are talking about certain psychological tendencies which they themselves have within the SLPP but which they ascribe to the APC as if the APC uniquely acquired it through some genetically transferred bad seeds from Stevens, through Momoh – and now to Ernest Bai Koroma? Is it APC ideology? What is the name of the beast?
Are people in the APC also capable/or incapable of learning from the mistakes of both the APC and the SLPP? Is the APC capable of serious soul-searching, reform and transformation – not continuity - but even radical departure from older norms?
Now the SLPP is mute/mumu about this hot election issue, corruption. It’s trans-parent: They are keeping very very quiet.
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Sengbe,
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Sengbe,
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Hello, Bra Cornie. How are you, and yours?
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Corruption is a central issue. Mr. Kabbah and Berewa have suffered defeat and ( perhaps) humiliation in the war against corruption, and some will go as far as to say that they are part of it ( corruption)..
The issue of corruption dogged Mr. Berewa on CNN. I've posted this before. The issue is quite clear. And there you go again not talking about the roots of this problem growing branches within your SLPP where it has - according to rumour- taken deep roots and according to president Kabbah, pervades every level of Sierra Leone society ( and that should normally include the SLPP and he must know what he's talking about:
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So what more do you want me to state about this corruption issue that I have not already stated in the ten years that I have been participating on Sa Lon fora?
By their very nature human beings are greedy, and if you couple this fact with extreme poverty, you have a palatable recipe for corruption. I mean, if you pay a man, let us say, $200 per month, and put him in charge of disbursing a budget of $20 million, in the absence of proper checks and balances, in order to pay for obligations / services that are in the national interest, the natural tendency for that person is to sponge off that budget in a corruptive way satiating that natural desire. The so-called "oosai-den-tie-cow-nar-day-ee-day-eat" syndrome, made famous by no other than Pa Shaki of the APC. This is a natural tendency that can only be obviated through profound discipline or sustained religiosity. Is it understandable? Probably.
If a government minister is paid about $600 per month, and he is obliged to take care of his primary family, and members of his extended family, some of whom he does not even know, to help members of his constituency, etc., by virtue of his position, would his salary be adequate to facilitate the obligations thrust upon him? I hardly think so. What is the next natural step in order for him to 'corba shame'? Cutting deals. Taking bribes, and perhaps kickbacks. I am not accusing anyone personally in this case. I am merely pointing out the possible reasons why corruption might be so endemic in na we Sa Lon.
How many of you out there have not yearned to be admired by your peers or others simply because you have several amourous relationships on the side? As Bra E would state - nyagaah tikehkeh. Furthermore, polygamy is not frowned upon in our society. Clearly, it takes a tremendous amount of resources in order to be able to satisfy these vices, or virtues for some folks, so that if the traffic cop is inundated with such vices / virtues, and his monthly salary is not comensurate with such, guess what he is going to do on his next beat?
. Discipline, and profound religiosity
. Put in place adequate checks and balances
. Pay folks a decent living wage in order to improve their standard of life
. Sharia Law?
. Sharia Law??
. Sharia Law???
. Eliminate extreme poverty by conducting the nation's business beneficially for all and sundry.
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Of course in some (if not most) African countries, the president is above the law and that is the premise on which the executive arm of the judiciary is founded and regularly rewarded (e.g. awarded National medals) for delivering faithful service to the chief. The Judiciary is therefore in the forefront, along with the military and police, who ensure the president’s immunity whilst he serves( presides) as commander-in-chief of state security.
Where the people are many and their hands are all empty,
Where the pellets of poison are flooding their waters,
Where the home in the valley meets the damp dirty prison,
Where the executioner's face is always well hidden,
Where hunger is ugly, where souls are forgotten,
Where black is the color, where none is the number,
And I'll tell it and think it and speak it and breathe it,
And reflect it from the mountain so all souls can see it,
Then I'll stand on the ocean until I start sinkin',
But I'll know my song well before I start singin',”
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Date Posted: 12:01:39 05/04/07 ()
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President-elect Alhaji Umaru Yar'adua,
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Asari Dokubo,
Ibim?
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Date Posted: 10:53:41 05/04/07 ()
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Of course in some( if not most) African countries, the president is above the law and that is a premise on which the executive arm of the judiciary is founded and for delivering faithful service might even be in the forefront, along with the military and police, who ensure the president’s immunity whilst serving as commander-in-chief of state security.
Where the people are many and their hands are all empty,
Where the pellets of poison are flooding their waters,
Where the home in the valley meets the damp dirty prison,
Where the executioner's face is always well hidden,
Where hunger is ugly, where souls are forgotten,
Where black is the color, where none is the number,
And I'll tell it and think it and speak it and breathe it,
And reflect it from the mountain so all souls can see it,
Then I'll stand on the ocean until I start sinkin',
But I'll know my song well before I start singin',”
But in a democracy in which everyone’s counted,
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 10:36:57 05/04/07 ()
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Sengbe
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" So what more do you want me to state about this corruption issue that I have not already stated in the ten years that I have been participating on Sa Lon fora"
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 23:37:18 05/03/07 ()
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Sengbe,
"[T]he new APC men and women are [only] pointing in the forward direction" nominally, and not actually,so that they can con our peoples into voting for them on 07/28/07. They have no genuine desire or intentions of upholding their avowed "new directions". They will state anything enticing to the populace for their election, and once elected, it is "deja vu all over again", as Yogi Berra would state.
I do not trust them (the 'new' apc leaders) at all. It is in their political blood, so to speak, to be dishonest at all times. ”
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It seems to me, that when the SLPP people talk about the APC, they are talking about certain psychological tendencies which they themselves have within the SLPP but which they ascribe to the APC as if the APC uniquely acquired it through some genetically transferred bad seeds from Stevens, through Momoh – and now to Ernest Bai Koroma? Is it APC ideology? Is there such a beast?
Is the APC also capable/ or incapable of learning from the mistakes of both the APC and the SLPP? Is the APC capable of serious soul-searching, reform and transformation – not continuity - but even radical departure from older norms?
Now the SLPP is mute/mumu about this hot election issue, corruption. It’s trans-parent: They are keeping very very quiet.
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• Life in Monrovia is unbearable
Citizens Apprehensive
But Can Mittal Steel, Lifting Of Sanctions Make Difference?
In the 1970s, Liberia’s economy was regarded as one of the strongest in the world. In fact, it was compared to that of Japan. But that was changed in 1989 when the first devastating war to ever hit a West African nation struck, leaving the once booming economy ruined.
• Life in Monrovia is unbearable
Tried as past administrations did, not much was achieved.
Copyright © 2007 - The Analyst Newspaper - All rights reserved - SITE: MBWS
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Please realize that the damage done by Charles Taylor & Co to Liberia through plunder, violence, the crimilization of state power and rewarding incompetents, Yes-men and criminals with appointments, promotions, national honors and power may be equivalent to aspects of the devastation caused by the slave trade centuries ago.
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"Please realize that the damage done by Charles Taylor & Co to Liberia through plunder, violence, the crimilization of state power and rewarding incompetents, Yes-men and criminals with appointments, promotions, national honors and power may be equivalent to aspects of the devastation caused by the slave trade centuries ago."
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The damage was started when illiterate Samuel "Moe", as Raegan once called him took power.
He became a role model for other bandits like Johnny, Foday and Taylor to copy from.
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Bahamas government ousted in poll
Hubert Ingraham
Mr Ingraham says too much power is being handed to foreign investors
Voters in the Bahamas have ousted the governing Progressive Liberal Party in favour of the opposition Free National Movement, unofficial results show.
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SOME EXAMPLES
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Now thats the voice of a frustrated man. The way you write and the manner in which you do so indicates your state of mind. So you interested to run for the PMDC running mate? Nnnnnnnaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwww.
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Alieu.....The last time i checked you are the only one who uses babybob as a handle.
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then check again. he just got an assistant
Babybob again
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Ever wodered why Charles Taylor got away with so much?
U.S. troops to Liberia, many Americans will be surprised to learn that
the crisis there was in part the creation of a U.S. political leader
who claims to champion Africans' right to self-governance: Jesse
Jackson.
As President Clinton's special envoy for Democracy and Human rights in
Africa, starting in October 1997, Jackson became the administration's
point man for Africa.
It was Jackson who legitimized both Liberian strongman Charles Taylor
and his protégé, the machete-wielding militia leader in neighboring
Sierra Leone, Cpl. Foday Sankoh. The two hacked to death several
hundred thousand citizens of their respective countries.
Jackson's involvement in the diamond wars of Liberia and Sierra Leone
arguably caused tens of thousands of African children to be murdered,
because his political support for ruthless killers masquerading as
political leaders encouraged them to continue their mayhem.
The tragic story of Liberia's long spiraling descent into the inferno
requires many more pages than a newspaper column can permit. I devote
an entire chapter to it in "Shakedown," my unauthorized Jackson
biography. But here are some lowlights:
* In May 1999, Jackson "kidnapped" President Laurent Kabbah of Sierra
Leone, according to Kabbah advisers I interviewed, and flew him to
neighboring Lome, Togo, where Jackson forced him to sign a cease-fire
with rebel leader Foday Sankoy.
* That July, under the terms of a powersharing agreement which Jackson
helped negotiate and which Kabbah vigorously resisted, Sankoh was
released from house arrest, made a vice president in a new national
unity government and put in charge of Sierra Leone's diamond mines.
* Sankoh then began smuggling out thousands of diamonds, many of which
he sent to Charles Taylor in Liberia in exchange for weapons. Jackson
repeatedly raised the issue of the illicit diamond trade and the
clandestine arms supplies with Taylor, who simply denied the charges.
Jackson never pressed him further.
* Jackson stayed in contact with Sankoh, phoning him repeatedly with
words of encouragement. Braced by this support and funded by the
diamond trade, Sankoh built up his Revolutionary United Front (RUF)
forces, ignoring Jackson's pleas to disarm and give peace a chance.
New fighting broke out in January 2000 in the hinterland. Jackson's
cease-fire lasted less than six months.
* By May 2000, the fighting in Sierra Leone took on crisis
proportions, when Sankoh's fighters murdered U.N. peacekeepers and
took 500 of them hostage. Meanwhile, Liberia, which has no diamonds,
reported that it had exported $300 million worth of diamonds the
previous year.
* Jackson made one final attempt to halt the bloodshed in mid-May
2000, but was warned by the U.S. embassy in Freetown not to set foot
in Sierra Leone because of widespread popular anger over his role in
rehabilitating Sankoh, a known mass murderer. One local journalist
wrote bitterly that the U.S. civil rights leader was better known in
Africa as a "killer's rights" leader.
* Jackson's final contributions to the "peace process" were vain
attempts to cajol Taylor to "negotiate" an end to the hostage crisis,
since Taylor was the godfather of the RUF and Sankoh's arms and
diamond broker.
* Arriving in Monrovia, Liberia, at the peak of the crisis, Jackson
declared, "President Taylor has been doing a commendable job
negotiating for the release of the hostages. All the hostages should
be freed, and freed now. There is no basis for delay, there is no
basis for negotiations."
Jackson's comments would have been absurd were it not for the
quantities of innocent blood that had been shed, thanks to his
self-serving bumbling.
At this point, State Department spokesman Philip Reeker declared on
June 5, 2000, that the United States was "not part of that
[Jackson-brokered] agreement." Jackson was soon summarily fired as
Clinton's special envoy.
The Clinton State Department is not innocent in this affair.
Declassified dispatches and briefing documents show that top State
officials primed Jackson with information, talking points and
background papers throughout his three years as Clinton's envoy.
With tragic results.
As Jackson himself commented to me in an interview for "Shakedown,"
"When it worked, you're a genius. When it blew up, you're an idiot."
Sierra Leone and Liberia both blew up in a big way.
Now Charles Taylor, indicted for war crimes by the U.N.-backed Special
Court for Sierra Leone, is seeking asylum in neighboring Nigeria. He
should not be allowed to escape prosecution.
Among the first questions prosecutors should ask Taylor is whom he
paid off using Foday Sankoh's diamonds. U.S. intelligence officers
reported these payoffs at the very moment that Jackson was negotiating
a favorable role for Taylor and for Sankoh in Lome, former CIA
officers and other sources have told me over the past two years. As a
result of the payoffs, Taylor continued to enjoy support among the
Congressional Black Caucus and with the Clinton State Department.
But who received the diamonds, how were they brokered onto the
international marketplace in Europe and where the cash proceeds went
remains a mystery. Taylor knows many of the answers. Watch Jesse
Jackson try to save him now.
Kenneth R. Timmerman is the author of "Shakedown: Exposing the Real
Jesse Jackson," and a senior writer for Insight magazine.
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Folks, it would appear as if John Leigh's stubborness and disrespect for elders had started years ago when he was a kid. This is what he wrote about himself on his website about him and his step mother'
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"...When tension between him and his stepmother appeared to become unmanageable, the senior Leigh arranged for his son, John Ernest, to join his older brother - Edward - at the E.U.B Mission (now United Methodist Church) Primary School at Yonibana..."
I knew it ! The first time I heard his ranting I knew he had a very TROUBLED childhood. And he is the one telling us that margai slapped Reverend Father Jeremiah Lamb? Wae nar im the john Leigh bin dae make plaba en fet ee step mama. This is what Some one recently said here. "JOHN YOU GEH SWEH".EN NAR THE ALAKI DAE FALAH YOU TIDAY. WAE PEPUL DEN DAE HALAH PAN YOU EN DISGRACE YOU ANY SAI YOU GO. GO LEH DEN POUR LIBATION FOR YOU BECOS YOU GEH SWEH.
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Now, thats what i call "pre-concention" issues. Thats what they say, becareful what you wish for. Presidents/leaders are born, and the make very little mistakes as they grow to claim their rightful job. I think its stupid for a presidential aspirant to put that in their biography - even if it is true. To me, it implies that he is proud of it.
ChaseManhattan
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If Leigh is proud of his self-admitted quest for personal enrichment at the expense of national development, then he must be a ototally corrupt opportunist.
From: Dr. CHARLES CURTIS-THOMAS
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Date Posted: 10:21:30 05/03/07 ()
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I do not want to jump the gun and say that APPARENTLY OF THE THREE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES ERNEST BAI KOROMA IS THE LEST EDUCATED. To prevent me from arriving at that conclusion CAN THE APC POST THE CURRICULUM VITAE OF " BAI-BAI" KOROMA, PLEASE ? WE ARE ENTITLE TO SEE IT.
From: Liko
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Doc, I happen to know Ernest's CV was posted over and again on this forum by the like of Alieu Iscandri, Allie Formeh Kamara and other individuals. And, I thought you already knew because you have been a prolific visitor here. Indeed, Berewa, Margai and Ernest hold a Bachelor's degree. They also hold managerial skills and may well have the criteria to run for higher offices. Ernest may not be the least educated of the three. While, I may say, Margai and Berewa are lawyers, Ernest is a certified insurance man, beside his art degree from FBC. This much I know about Ernest.
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If they all hold bachelors degrees and we are not aware of any other post-graduate degrees held by Berewa or Charles, what basis do we have to say that Ernest is the least educated of the three?
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Answer: None. At least that's how it seems to me.
From: Liko
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Doc, I happen to know Ernest's CV was posted over and again on this forum by the like of Alieu Iscandri, Allie Formeh Kamara and other individuals. And, I thought you already knew because you have been a prolific visitor here. Indeed, Berewa, Margai and Ernest hold a Bachelor's degree. They also hold managerial skills and may well have the criteria to run for higher offices. Ernest may not be the least educated of the three. While, I may say, Margai and Berewa are lawyers, Ernest is a certified insurance man, besides his art degree from FBC. This much I know about Ernest.
From: Critical Thinker
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Date Posted: 11:23:40 05/03/07 ()
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Interesting question, Chief. APC members always seem to be uneasy when EK's CV is mentioned. This appears to speak to issues that need to be discussed in the perennial debate on whether educational qualifications, or the lack thereof, make a candidate better qualified to run for president.
From: Liko
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Date Posted: 19:22:42 05/03/07 ()
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You are absolutely right, Critical Thinker. I was attempting to answer the question posed by Dr. Curtis Thomas that in fact the three individuals hold bachelor degrees
From: Sengbe
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Date Posted: 19:32:56 05/03/07 ()
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Based on my understanding of British-style education, the LLB degree is NOT a baccalaureate degree. It is beyond that. It is equivalent to a JD degree in the States. Thus, it is a fallacy to equate the educational qualifications of both Berewa and Charles only in terms of holding "bachelor degrees".
From: Liko
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Their law degree is bachelor's, no matter how hard you try to style it, Sengbe. In Britain you could equally receive an LLM (a Master's degree in Law). They are then referred to as Barrister at Law after they would have passed their bar exams. So in a sense, the three of them are holders of bachelor degrees.
From: Sengbe
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Date Posted: 20:26:38 05/03/07 ()
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Cadmus, is this true? Is Liko correct? LLB is not equivalent to our JD?
From: Liko
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Senge, I know for fact that LLB is an undergraduate degree. It is a four year degree course in Britain. the enrollment requirements are 2 'A' Levels subjects plus 5 'O' levels. I know this because my cousin holds an LLM degree and specializes in Immigration Law. He first did his 'A' levels in Sierra Leone but failed to even have a pass in any subject. But his parents were wealthy then and he was shipped to london where he polished his 'A' levels and was admitted into a four year degree program in LLB with only two 'A' levels. Today, He practices immigation law in Britain. It is very easy to check British Law Schools' requirements to ascertain the fact. But this much I know about my cousin
From: Sengbe
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Date Posted: 21:08:38 05/03/07 ()
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Thank you for the information, Liko. I stand to be corrected.
From: DUMB
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Date Posted: 22:11:33 05/03/07 ()
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"I don't care what anyone states to the contrary, there is a direct relationship between the level of eucational exposure and effective leadership."
From: Sengbe
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Date Posted: 22:36:10 05/03/07 ()
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Bo jalloh lef me sarful.
From: Independent Observer
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Date Posted: 23:00:03 05/03/07 ()
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Sengbe:
From: Statistician
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Date Posted: 07:37:52 05/04/07 ()
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And how did you come up with that conclusion? What are the parameters?
From: Independent Observer
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Date Posted: 07:58:11 05/04/07 ()
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Sengbe, it is really obvious. Let me show you since you are apparently slow to understand:
conclusion that you lack any of the leadership qualities one would expect from an educated person.
From: Statistician
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Date Posted: 09:50:29 05/04/07 ()
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If i am SHENGBE, then you are MODIBOR WOROK
From: BEHAVE YOURSELF
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Date Posted: 10:47:21 05/04/07 ()
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As someone has told you SLPP apologists before, rudeness is not a substitute for reason.
From: Statistician
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Date Posted: 10:57:25 05/04/07 ()
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whenever you are exposed, you start being personal. I AM NOT SENGBE.
From: BEHAVE YOURSELF
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Date Posted: 11:22:31 05/04/07 ()
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"whenever you are exposed, you start being personal."
From: Statistician
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Date Posted: 12:11:36 05/04/07 ()
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There is no sense in your rambling modibo worok.
If you answer the question, you will know why unecessary and useless statements are bad in a forum where your betters discuss issues.
Prove me wrong and i will let you go.
And by the way I am NOT sengbe.
From: BEHAVE YOURSELF
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Date Posted: 12:35:39 05/04/07 ()
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Sengbe, it is not for me to prove you wrong. Independent Observer has already done so clearly and conclusively earlier today. It may be time for you to get help translating the proof into a language you understand better than English.
Posted by Independent Observer on May 04, 2007 at 07:58:11:
conclusion that you lack any of the leadership qualities one would expect from an educated person.
From: Abu Fanday
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Date Posted: 19:44:24 05/03/07 ()
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The real fallacy is equating leadership with acadmic qualifications.
From: Michael
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Date Posted: 11:51:47 05/03/07 ()
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Lack of education absolutely does. So far among the candidates that we have non of them in my estimation lacks education. All of them are graduates. Have had extensive public service records. How they performed in their post university era is really what we should be evaluating. Sure even Leigh will agree with me.
Michael
From: ?TION
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Date Posted: 11:04:28 05/03/07 ()
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Doc:
From: CHIEFDOM POLICE
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Date Posted: 19:21:07 05/03/07 ()
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"instead of you dae clap way book man dem dae talk but book business nar yah, you dae open you illiterate mot and talk ratata.
From: CADMUS
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Date Posted: 11:03:23 05/03/07 ()
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The Doc says....'I do not want to jump the gun....'
We should be told.
From: Michael
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CADMUS, you right. Have youever checked the APC website to see if you can find it there? If you cant, try calling someone in the APC office in Freetown or one of its branches to get something. I am not sure Ernest is going to have the time to post one here on cocorioko. He is too busy to read this forum, as much as our contributions here a very relevant. Absolutely, every public official's resume should be a public document, including vice president Berewa.
Michael
From: APC
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Date Posted: 11:27:50 05/03/07 ()
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From APC Official website.
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 10:50:37 05/03/07 ()
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Doc, if you get the chance to look at EBKoroma's CV, please check for any indication as to where he obtained either his graduate education or his professional training in insurance.
From: SLPP Guy
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Date Posted: 10:58:22 05/03/07 ()
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john Leigh, you should be worried bout your own skeletons in your cupboard rather than spending your time on a more revered, credible and very educated political leader as in Ernest Bai Koroma. Ernest Koromas resume is everywhere. Infact you have read it, and that is how you came to know about his scholarship and insurance stuff. Do you have a problem with someone who gets further education in another African country? Is that what you are implying? Now tell me, why was your "stubborness with your step-mom so unmanagable that the senior Leigh had to send you somewhere else"? I saw that in your bio on your website.
SLPP Guy
From: APC
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Date Posted: 11:30:28 05/03/07 ()
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"very educated political leader as in Ernest Bai Koroma. Ernest Koromas resume is everywhere. Infact you have read it, and that is how you came to know about his scholarship and insurance stuff."
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 12:30:39 05/03/07 ()
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No, no! There was another institution after FBC. It was located in a neighboring country. I got the info from a former classmate when I was in DC. The classmate was non-SLeonean and was then at Howard U in DC.
From: LOW GRADE SAN SAN
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Date Posted: 07:10:30 05/05/07 ()
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I heard that the particular institution was a foolumunku place but I have no proof of that. - JL
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 18:29:15 05/03/07 ()
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A foolumunku place is a place wherein by conversing with fellow idiots, you get an education. Watch this space:
From: Liko
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Date Posted: 17:20:09 05/03/07 ()
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I believe Ernest attended the West African Insurance Institute for his postgraduate studies which has offices in Liberia, Ghana and Nigeria and became a certified insurance man. This is a credible insurance institute in Africa which is even recognized by insurance institutes in Britain. You can check the fact
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 17:42:56 05/03/07 ()
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Mr. Liko:
From: Good manners
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Date Posted: 19:50:43 05/03/07 ()
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John Leigh, you forgot to apologize for demeaning the internationally-renowned institute which APC leader Bai Koroma attended, pursuant to you unpatriotic quest to mortgage Sa lon under the corrupt SLPP government of the incompetent Berewa in order to recoup your bribes you have invested in kabbah and Berewa's SLPP.
From: Chase Manhattan
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Date Posted: 13:28:07 05/03/07 ()
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But he went to FBC right? got a degree there right? something we can rate him on..right? Now you tell us about Suffolk University Law School. Because I know the ratings for that school from US Colleges magazine. Infact its not even rated for anything except for diversity - indicating your affirmative action acceptance. As a matter of fact, I was offered a position in one of their graduate schools, but I declined, and opted to teach somewhere else. Now you rate yourself.
ChaseManhattan
From: REJECT
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Date Posted: 15:42:43 05/03/07 ()
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John Leigh was FIRED as ambassador by his own party! So what does that tell us? That those who know him best were so disgusted with his medicority and lack of diplomatic talents that they fired him!
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 10:33:10 05/03/07 ()
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Musa over to you.
From: MUSA KAMARA
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Date Posted: 10:12:18 05/03/07 ()
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Mr JL,this forum is free for discussion and it is not your private property if you dont want to participate in any debate it is better to keep mute or quit.The kamajors, who were rebels initially were part of the atrocity in our nation.They murdered,raped,and ate their fellow human beigns.If you think it is a taboo to elaborate on what those scoundrels did,then I want to believe that you were among the initiators of that tribal and cannibalistic sect.Why do you think the court was set in Sierra-Leone?And why their late Leader was indicted?The world knew what those bandits did to our people.Do you know that the holocaust is still discussed till date?Because generations should know what happened,analyse the causes,then work on preventive mentions for the future.This is election period and all options are open and possible.Your incompetent party is loosing grounds and have lost its credibility to the nation and we wont set aside this time to use another battalion of kamajors to buther our people so that they will still hang on power.Mr JL you have to be reasonable not only for your political aspiration and greed but above all for the nation.
From: CADMUS
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Date Posted: 11:21:11 05/03/07 ()
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John Leigh has participated in debate on this forum more than all you idiots put together.
From: BUFORD HWY
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Date Posted: 17:48:07 05/03/07 ()
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BRA,
I am surprise at you by abusing forumites in defence of Mr Leigh.
"John Leigh has participated in this forum more than any of you IDIOTS put together."
From: CADMUS
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Date Posted: 10:33:59 05/04/07 ()
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BUFORD HWY,
I am not rude, I m just passionate.
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 18:14:13 05/03/07 ()
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CADMUS was referring to idiots in this forum like his immediate target.
From: JUDGE
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Date Posted: 23:15:39 05/03/07 ()
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"CADMUS was referring to idiots in this forum like his immediate target."
From: Dr. CHARLES CURTIS-THOMAS
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Date Posted: 09:59:56 05/03/07 ()
Email Address: RNMDTWO@YAHOO.COM
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13. "Under the APC, central government sustained itself through corruption, nepotism and the plundering of state assets. These practices were replicated at regional and local levels, where Chieftaincy became synonymous with power, patronage and control of resources. When Sierra Leone adopted a one-party constitution in 1978, any semblance of accountability or effective opposition had already been eliminated. Historical trends like economic decay and fragmentation of the national spirit were exacerbated underthe one-party system and became key causes of the conflict".
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From: CADMUS
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Date Posted: 11:18:49 05/04/07 ()
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DR CURTIS-THOMAS,
From: Kanfori Sorie Koroma
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Date Posted: 11:56:15 05/03/07 ()
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Dr.Curtis,
From: Dr. CHARLES CURTIS-THOMAS
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Date Posted: 19:13:51 05/03/07 ()
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Posted by Dr. CHARLES CURTIS-THOMAS on May 03, 2007 at 09:59:56:
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From: APC
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Date Posted: 14:02:31 05/03/07 ()
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Keep dreaming my brother. The APC win elections Nar Salone? Porrrrrrrrrrrrrrrot mboh seoooooh.
From: Researcher
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Date Posted: 09:29:36 05/03/07 ()
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(culled from allafrica.com)
May 2, 2007
Posted to the web May 2, 2007
Freetown
What are Sierra Leoneans going to do to help themselves so that God can help them? Do we actually believe that the developmental salvation of Sierra Leone still lies with the SLPP and APC? Are we helping ourselves by allowing these two parties to perpetually take us through the realms of stagnation as their records of leadership is clearly showing consistently.
West Africa
Sierra Leone
2. Look around Freetown and see for yourself what new developments are there other than big mansions going up around the hills. There is still only one Siaka Stevens stadium, a smelly city with garbage strewn everywhere which VP Berewa said is not the responsibility of the government to clean the city, but the NPRC government tried and did some good. There is more garbage in Freetown today than under the NPRC or even the AFRC.
5. The SLPP's biggest political game seem to be in making unfulfilled promises hoping that the people will forget anyway. For example: (a). Kabba promised to build the Lungi Bridge the ferry still runs today.
(c). The Bumbuna Hydroelectric project completion is still on hold.
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 13:29:08 05/03/07 ()
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I agree that there are problems in the country and our government could have done more. But all in all, given the huge destruction of the country and the incalculable punishment inflicted on tens of thousands of our people, the Kabbah Administration has moved SLeone forward.
From: LOW GRADE SAN SAN
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Date Posted: 05:51:59 05/05/07 ()
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He served in parliament as an APC MP. What were his contributions to SLeone? = ZERO
From: news copied
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Date Posted: 05:21:46 05/03/07 ()
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The World Bank’s pro-private market-orientated policies and its involvement in reforms that have harmed health systems in many poor countries have raised question marks over its new ten year health policy, says a Comment in this week’s edition of the Lancet.
From: san san boy
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Date Posted: 02:34:51 05/03/07 ()
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Whats road. You did not even know that road was graded by the APC and by the time Momoh wanted to start its construction, the RUF palm frond supporters (NPRC) all took up arms and spoiled the party.
You are a liar Mr. The APC was making every effort to enhance development prior to Momoh's overthrown. Only a liar and a distorter will deny it.
Even during the NPRC rule ,the road from Lumley through Goderich, Adonkia York, Tombo was properly graded.
The surfacing of the road does not come because the SLPP made that plan. Infact, generations yet unborn will have to pay the interests and the entire cash to the Islamic development Bank. I am going to bet that the road will be destroyed within two years.
Why? Becasue there is a massive deforestation in and around the Peninsula. The clueless SLPP does not put any plan in place to stop those who are cutting trees and those who are using the SLPP influence to grab land. Because of the environmental degradation in that area, there is a big chance for mudslides and other ecological damage to the roads.
That road will be a white elephant soon. It is a shame that all the millions of dollars will go down the drain because the SLPP failed to know that tree cutting and land grabbing will result to the precipitation of mud and gravel; into the road surgface.
JL, your SDLPP plan for Sierra Leone is purely evil and does not reflect in any way excellence.
Please, repent before it is late.
From: Kamajor
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Date Posted: 20:50:24 05/02/07 ()
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I hear that Hinga Norman swore Kabba and Berewa before he died. Sierra Leone better pray for Berewa not to win, because nothing better will follow Sierra Leone because of chief's curse for what Kabbah and Berewa did to the chief.
From: GBANGBANI
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Date Posted: 02:08:08 05/03/07 ()
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Why should they not see light for what happen to once Notorious Murderer "Hinga Norman"? You may only sit and hail a covert killer like this man. Did you follow the trend of the war spearheaded by your so-call hero? Hero my BUTT. He deserves what he got. If you live by the sward, you die by it. There are still documentaries to support the fact that him, Norman, committed numerous atrocity with the aim to promote a party (SLPP) of his like. This party eventually abandon him like an outcast. Remember.......The evil you do always come to hunt you. God Nor Dae Sleep.
You see how foday sankoh perish?
From: PMDC
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Date Posted: 20:27:48 05/02/07 ()
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If anyone ever doubted the ungratefulness of SLPP, just take a look at those given national awards : www.awarenesstimes.com
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 14:22:49 05/03/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Mr. PMDC:
From: Concerned
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Date Posted: 20:16:21 05/02/07 ()
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KABs Kanu how did this happen? Christiano, Ryan"the saloneboy" Giggs, Van Der Saar, all these Guys could not stop Seedoff, Kaka and the Milan boys from a well deserved win.
Liverpool is on its way to another CUP.
From: Dida
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Date Posted: 00:56:28 05/03/07 ()
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Beware the might of Kaka and Seerdorf...Kabs kanu will attest to that.AC Milan all the way
From: Concerned
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Date Posted: 07:44:19 05/03/07 ()
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Milan knows what we did them few years ago. Like i said earlier, Liverpool just earn themselves another cup.
From: GIRLFRIEND
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Date Posted: 19:08:56 05/02/07 ()
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The mammy herself
From: Alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 19:29:02 05/02/07 ()
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Pa Musa Kamara is that your GirlFriend?
Just checking...
From: Alieu Sesay
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Date Posted: 19:19:49 05/02/07 ()
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Olayinka Olumide Blyden.
From: APC
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Date Posted: 19:11:57 05/02/07 ()
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Thats a Pretty Lady. On the other hand, Da man Black lek TAR. Damn the SUN is doing wonders I GUESS.
From: APC
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Date Posted: 19:16:37 05/02/07 ()
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Stay away from my Handle. This is your last warning.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 16:26:27 05/02/07 ()
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Concord Times (Freetown)
Posted to the web May 1, 2007
Acting Registrar, Herman von Hebel of the United Nations backed Special Court for Sierra Leone last week disclosed to journalists in Monrovia, Liberia that former President Charles Taylor's trial is expected to start on June 4, 2007 in The Hague at the premises of the International Criminal Court (ICC).
"The reason for our visit and for us being here lies in the Security Council Resolution 1688 which provided for the transfer of Charles Taylor to The Hague. Also it provided us with the obligation to make the trial against Charles Taylor as accessible as possible to the public in Sierra Leone and in the region, and in particular to Liberia," Hebel stated.
Copyright © 2007 Concord Times. All rights reserved. Distributed by AllAfrica Global Media (allAfrica.com). Click here to contact the copyright holder directly for corrections -- or for permission to republish or make other authorized use of this material.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 16:20:30 05/02/07 ()
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Posted Feb 6 2007, 05:55 PM on http://www.leoneclub.org
Greetings my brothers and sisters. mamadi, thank you for a brilliant input to the question of Mr. Obama's Blackness. In my view, it is an insult to Blackness. We Blacks, all over the World have been punished and exploited for many years and in America, over four hundred years. The reason being, we let it. Classic example is what has happened to me that most Blacks, including people from my very country, Sierra Leone, have been ardent participants to ensure it happens. It can and will never happen to a White man regardless of what such White man might have done or what is intended for him or her. What happens to me is an insult to all Black people around the globe. I am racializing it because of the racial epitaph that I heard over the years and the intent upon revisiting slavery and to anger Black people that I heard and envisaged. Most people who mistreated me did so not because of me but to demean the Black race. This is from what I heard from their mouth.However, it is important to know the level of suphistication people are when they do and say things: what they know of the country, International political stage, the curent trend of things, their history and so on.
When I heard about Senator Obama vieing for Presidency, I first of all questioned myself whether or not America is prepared for such a growth, being that the tenseness that racism has on the minds of most White Americans and Blacks alike, the wounds which have not been healed yet, I see a tough road ahead.
But in this civil era, the Twenty-first Century why should race still be the issue?
Here is a piece that will shed light on that.
DIVIDE AND RULE
POWER & RACISM
IN AMERICA
Most Americans are not reconciled with the reality that the Republic set up by the Founding Fathers was created in the image of a massive plantation. The highest priority to the rulers of the republic was that their money-making operations continue with the least amount of interruption to their profit-making enterprises. When the Founders used rhetoric of freedom, it was only intended to benefit the white, property-owning class. The prospect of ordinary people having liberty haunted the powerful elite of the early republic, who felt entitled to exploit the ordinary people as slaves, and serfs - what we call indentured servants. In the same way that modern employers feel entitled to employ underlings, and benefit from their work financially, so too ancient slaveowners really only saw themselves as a kind of employer; and their ability to control their slaves through terrorism can still be found in the labor practices of our modern age, although refined almost to an art form of manipulation, with enticements and artifices taking the place of what was once merely naked coercion.
Four Centuries of Black and White Labor
By Jacqueline Jones
http://www.worldfreeinternet.net/news/nws95.htm"
Do not have time to read over.
From: Olu Beckley
To: All
Date Posted: 14:47:44 05/02/07 ()
Email Address: mariamab@aol.com
Entered From: at 206.113.148.2
United States Department of State –Crime and safety Report January 30, 2007
• Many local police stations do not have working telephones, or they only have one telephone line, which is always in use.
• The police officer answering the telephone has a difficult time understanding English.
• The police frequently claim to lack transportation to the scene of the incident;
• When transportation is available, fuel is often unavailable.
From: kroobaymom
To: All
Date Posted: 14:11:59 05/02/07 ()
Email Address: kroobaymom@hayoo.com
Entered From: at 206.113.148.2
New Citizen
Local News
Receipts from the donor community which many people thought could have helped to beef up the financial status of government in an effort to fund projects have become dry because some of the donors insist on a bench mark that states that no more donor funding would be made available until after the July 28 general elections.
Posted on 02 May 2007
From: kroobaymom
To: All
Date Posted: 14:06:45 05/02/07 ()
Email Address: kroobaymom@hayoo.com
Entered From: at 206.113.148.2
LATEST HEADLINES
In another development, A.I.G Tamba Gbekie informed journalists that 55 thatched houses in the Pujehun District in the Gbanga Kobonde Chiefdom and Sahn Malay Chiefdom have been set ablaze by unidentified persons.
He also said that the unidentified persons have threatened to set more houses ablaze, according to a letter they left behind.
From: POLITICS 101
To: All
Date Posted: 13:47:39 05/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ac202-050.resnet.stonybrook.edu at 130.245.202.50
Sierra Leone: PMDC Loses Ground in Kenema
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Concord Times (Freetown)
Posted to the web May 2, 2007
Freetown
Prince maintained that his party has witness series of such event in which supporters of the PMDC have crossed over to the SLPP.
Principal of the Islamic Secondary School, Kenema, Mohamed Konneh also emphasized the role of parents in determining the success of their children for a better future.
From: Alieu Sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 19:34:36 05/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
"The Peoples Movement for Democratic Change PMDC is said to be loosing grounds."
Did they ever gain any grounds? Where? How? This PMDC will be another PDP,UNPP, PCP, RUFP, NUP, UNP, Etc, that were and have gone to stage of non-existence.
Charles Maggai will come back to beg us for the third time. This time we wil not accept him.
MARK MY WORDS...
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:18:47 05/02/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Below is another e-mail received earlier and which is educating me about the political situation in SLeone. I hope some forumites might find it interesting. - JL
Regards,
xxxxxxxxxxx
From: CADMUS
To: All
Date Posted: 11:12:09 05/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 82.198.250.9
Mr JOHN LEIGH,
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 15:05:56 05/03/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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CADMUS:
From: Yaya Fanusie
To: All
Date Posted: 00:45:51 05/03/07 ()
Email Address: futatoro@gmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-166-128-124.washdc.east.verizon.net at 71.166.128.124
Mr. Leigh,
Well all it means is there goes another OPPORTUNIST.
I guess you mentored them well-that is how to be politically confused.
Yaya Fanusie
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 09:17:20 05/03/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dr. Fanusie:
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 14:16:49 05/02/07 ()
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Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 14:36:09 +0000
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From: Sengbe Wutehteh
To: All
Date Posted: 15:40:02 05/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.85.57.177
Nar bigfool dae pan Soccoh. After almost fifty years, ee for don know Charles by now. But enti ee geh money, nar dar money day Charles bin want for ee party. Way ee don spend thousands, Charles lef ahm nar the cold. Ar bet say Femi sef go cross-carpet very soon.
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 12:44:32 05/03/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Doctor/Professor/Coinager:
From: Sengbe
To: All
Date Posted: 17:00:48 05/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.85.57.177
Thanks, Bra John.
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:45:54 05/04/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-rtc-ae10.proxy.aol.com at 152.163.101.14
Sengbe:
From: Michael
To: All
Date Posted: 10:46:47 05/04/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 208.41.8.154
Now Sengbeh, you definitely going to get some good review here from JohnLeigh...he likes praise singing and he cannot miss an opportunity to acknowledge one when he sees it. When ever I priase him on this forum, he immediately jumps in, thanks me and tell everyone that I am a progressive guy. When I question anything about him, the nest thing I hear is "fulumunk tontos, dumbo, tumbo san san etc.." Does that sound farmiliar? So keep praising my man. But he is not really a very forthright guy. He is full of contraditions, fli-flopping etc etc. He even makes pre-election statements which are not relevant in "post-election' period.
Michael
From: Abdul Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 14:06:03 05/02/07 ()
Email Address:
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Leigh, we are not interested in your lies. Please spare us the unpleasant task of reading your lies by extension purporting to come from Freetown. Lonta
From: Thanks to Sengbe
To: All
Date Posted: 13:33:00 05/02/07 ()
Email Address:
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"...PIKIN MARGAI DON CRACE is the new popular meaning of PMDC..."
From: MC
To: All
Date Posted: 14:55:13 05/02/07 ()
Email Address:
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Folks, I just got this email from my brother who is a very stauncxh member of SLPP. I thought I should email it to the forum. I am getting more education on the situation back home.
MC
___________________________________________
Dear XXXXXX
I am sure by now you must have heard about the terrible situation in Freetown. Man freetown is in abject and total darkness. No light, no water, no food, dust all over, faeces in the street, and betters littering all over the place. This is a very terrible thing for any government in control. You cannot count that many homes that can afford a bag of rice.
you brother
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 16:07:40 05/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 67.63.2.157
Bo una sabi lie. dis wan full me mot. Aye! Ar baig.
From: APC
To: All
Date Posted: 16:09:39 05/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 67.63.2.157
And his Brother is a Drunk!!! Watin you expect? The Big wan nar Djamba Smoker. hehehehehehehhehehhhheheh.
You big DUMMY
From: kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 10:23:45 05/03/07 ()
Email Address: kamara@hotmail.com
Entered From: accfed20.ipt.aol.com at 172.207.237.32
Is COLUMBA BLANGO forwarding any more mails? You can surely do better than a POSTMAN.
From: APC
To: All
Date Posted: 10:36:30 05/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 67.63.2.157
I hate anything, anyone associated with PMDC.
From: Fahlamakata
To: All
Date Posted: 15:42:37 05/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.85.57.177
Bull kaka!!!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 16:57:04 05/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 216.190.22.153
Greetings again my brothers and sister.
M.C. in his response to Ambassador John E. Leigh stated:
"Dear XXXXXX
I am sure by now you must have heard about the terrible situation in Freetown. Man freetown is in abject and total darkness. No light, no water, no food, dust all over, faeces in the street, and betters littering all over the place. This is a very terrible thing for any government in control. You cannot count that many homes that can afford a bag of rice.
you brother."
The whole idea is for all to make change for the better. The ability for the leadership to examine and re-examine their policies towards enhancing a better situation for the nation is the paraphrased notion about the elections. It is expected that the citizenry who feel the brunt of the problem would carefully examine and select a better person/persons to govern
them into a better nation. In this case, it takes responsibility and serving as better examples to ensure the needed change.
That haven said, we cannot be deceptive to the leaders or aspirants, if you will, because we are setting a hurrendous precidence, indicative of the fact we do need accountability and transparency and therefore, we are serving the examples we want the leadership to inculcate and operate upon immediately they are elected to office. We cannot eat both ways otherwise we would cause the need for the corruption that is so apparent in the nation to continue because if we create this quest to replace the missing through the defraudation that aspirants suffer during elections, as it is clearly stated in your post : "As an SLPP supporter, I will stop using my green T-shirt by mid july. For now, I need the free food and pegapark."
By and large, we should be concerned about your open statement that the stated problems are prevalent and the way to tackling them so that we do not come here the next time to complain is now. How by putting these problems and their solutions the measuring stick for electing our representatives. Now is the time.
I do not have time to read over.
God bless.
From: san san boy
To: All
Date Posted: 11:27:59 05/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 175-64-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl at 88.159.64.175
Forumites please, read John Leigh's tale to distort the facts; here he goes "The Kamajors also formed genuine alliances with other community defence groups around the entire country for nationwide local protection. These alliances comprised our proud former Civil Defence Force.
John ErnestLeigh, if the dead can avenge their perpetrators, you will not write the above statement. It is inconceivable that a man who claims that he is upright will come here and write the above distortion. Please, read the TRc report; "In many instances the Kamajors used these statements as a justification to mount attacks on military positions in the Southern Province, as well as at selected strategic points in the Northern and Eastern Provinces. Many such attacks by the Kamajors caused violations against civilians by one or both sides in the process".
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 12:37:50 05/02/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-mtc-aa04.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.116.8
Those were wayward kamajors not under the control of Chief Hinga Norman. They simply did not accept his discipline and took advantage of the AFRC/RUF mayhem for private profit and revenge. And after the war they turned false witness against him for cash and promised visas. Please learn to go below easy surfaces. - JL
From: san san boy
To: All
Date Posted: 15:05:14 05/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 59-64-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl at 88.159.64.59
You have drifted from your lies and now coined a new word "Wayward Kamajors".
If I did not point out your distortion, you and the other SLPP apologists will have the bold mind to say that JL is winning the dabate here.
John Leigh you have succeded to tarnish your image by cloaking with the Berewa SLpp and this has caused you to be a spurious politician. You fully know that the war in Sierra Leone was fought because of politics and money coupled with chieftaincy houses rights and grudge among different parties. It is a shame that you have never honoured the dead who on behalf the International Community stood its ground to find peace in Sierra Leone. Nobody alone including John Leigh, neither Kabbah or Berewa that was responsible for peace in the Country. It was the sacrifices made by ordinay people and Peace Keepers coupled with the UN security Council commitment to stop the war in Sierra Leone. With a bang of an artillery, kabbah was in exile.
The so called ambassadorial role you played had nothing to do with the hard earned peace our people fought for. Every ambassador be it APC or any otehr party wopuld have done the same. Everyone knows that you always blow your own trumpet and it is your nefarious act that led Kabbah to sack you.
Even Sylvia Blyden has got an order of heRokel, while you are languishing outside the fence to shout that your SLPP is a better option. If you had worked so well with Kabbah, why he did not ever nominate John ernest Leigh for a honour. You have burnt the bridge and after July 28th, all your friends will abandon you and those you have besmeared do you think they will comfort you.
JL, think about tomorrow. Iam sure your support to the SLPP is as aresult of your maternal connection. You put SLPP above Sierra Leone. There are many evidences to show that you yourself has been aggrieved becasue your party has left Sierra Leoneans to suffer immensely.
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 16:59:56 05/02/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-dtc-aa14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.116.18
Multiple Moniker Abuser (MMA): "You have drifted from your lies and now coined a new word "Wayward Kamajors"."
From: SLPP
To: All
Date Posted: 15:46:19 05/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-074-166-099-181.sip.asm.bellsouth.net at 74.166.99.181
"Next, there is not a single apologist in SLPP."
From: san san boy
To: All
Date Posted: 02:12:29 05/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 6-65-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl at 88.159.65.6
Forumites, please read another of John Leigh's lies; REBUTTAL: Rubbish! "Peace does not happening by itself. Somebody (Prez Kabbah) put the whole package together to ursher us into peace. He harnessed the sacrifices of the "ordinary people" and brought the peacekeepers into SLeone through diplomacy. Berewa negotiated Lome which ended the war by trapping Sankoh, Bockarie, Johnny Paul Koroma, etc. Lome was a pre-condition for UN Peacekeeping. As for me, I did my own two-bit in DC as did many others also elsewhere. It was a team effort"!
The Man is a pathological lier. He does not know that peace keepers were in Sierra Leone before before his SLPP spread the war. Do you know thatthe Gunineans, Nigerians and Ghanaian fought tooth and nail to get rid of the palm fronds rebels in Kailaihun, Gerihun, Daru and other places. You only came into the SLPP mainstream in 1996 after you had bribed your way.
There is no truth in your statement that Kabbah prepared the package for peace. Posterity will hold you responsible for your lies and distortion. Where were Omrie Golley, Johnny Payul Koroma who saved the SLPP when Foday Sankoh's fighters attempt to over run Freetown.
You SLPP supporters are bonded with lies and evil plans for Sierra Leone. The peace package was accepted by all warring factions . The only package Kabbah/Berewa including John Leigh prepared is to nail inga Norman and other faction members.
Go back to your drawing board and come back with lies.
Ironically, you are gradually fading out but you are still obssesed with lies, hypocrisy and jealousy.
Any decent man will be ashamed to belong to a party that kills its citizens and reduces its Country to a wretched place on earth inspite os the stupendous help from the International Community.
From: Yaya Fanusie
To: All
Date Posted: 00:56:24 05/03/07 ()
Email Address: futatoro@gmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-166-128-124.washdc.east.verizon.net at 71.166.128.124
John Leigh wrote : I have created a flourishig space for me to retain my values." What are these values? Lying, distortions, confusion, idleness, kongosah, dancing with crooks like Berawa??????
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 09:18:32 05/03/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-rtc-ae10.proxy.aol.com at 152.163.101.14
NO!
From: BLIND
To: All
Date Posted: 15:47:30 05/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-074-166-099-181.sip.asm.bellsouth.net at 74.166.99.181
Answered like thee truly blind SLPP folower that you are!
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 11:42:43 05/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-0e8472d5.01-32-73746f42.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se at 213.114.132.14
He does make mistakes, sometimes....
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 11:23:26 05/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-0e8472d5.01-32-73746f42.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se at 213.114.132.14
To say that the Sierra Leone economy is about to collapse due to corruption, would be an extreme point of view, although it is corruption that is undermining and sabotaging the economy and corruption it is, that is bleeding the country no matter the Symbol on the Party Manifesto. Even selfish people do not self-destruct but individual selfishness on a grand personal scale is the kind of selfishness that is self-destructing the country.
No sensible person has yet denied the destructive effects that corruption has on our ability to succeed with the national agenda, although they might take exception to the phrase ” Self-destruct” and on moral grounds want to extricate themselves from the ”Self” in the ”self- destruct” and to be out of the corrupt side of the equation.
It’s Now or Never, it’s about time.
From: san san boy
To: All
Date Posted: 10:56:51 05/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 175-64-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl at 88.159.64.175
The SLPP BONDAYILA thug has been imported from the southern povince tounleash havoc and destruction in Freetown and other places, where both the APC and PMDC have massive support.
Observers believe that these hoodlums are ex kamajors who have been paid and coerce by Berewa to inflict destruction in Sierra Leone.
I think the opposition parties need to come out in full force and organise protests in various western embassies inclding state lodge in a way to tell these pwer hungry SLPP supporters that they have more to lose tghan to gain if violence erupts in the Country. I hope the security forces will perofrm their duties fairly and try to intervene to stop Sierra Leone from experiencing the same destructive acts meted by the RUF, kamajors and other warring factions.
SLPP apologists we know that to be sucking sugar is very enticing. Please, give peace a chance and allow the destitute Sierra Leoneans to choose their leaders.
I think every forumite irrespective of his/her political affiliations need to shout against political violence and intimidation.
The ten years old war brought untold hardship in the lifes of our people and these undesirable elements in the SLPP must not be given any chance to take Sierra leone to a war path
From: Dr. CHARLES CURTIS-THOMAS
To: All
Date Posted: 10:18:14 05/02/07 ()
Email Address: RNMDTWO@YAHOO.COM
Entered From: at 198.24.31.125
272. Sierra Leoneans have become accustomed to those in authority using their positions and information entrusted to them to enrich themselves. The Commission is persuaded that the best way to stamp out this malevolent tradition is to put inplace monitoring mechanisms and to take action when self-enrichment occurs.
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 11:27:25 05/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 71.16.51.214
"They should also disclose their financial interests acquired after their assumption of office, including those of their spouses and dependents."
------------------------------------------
Which financial interest are we talking about here Chief? The ones abroad; in Sierra Leone; both?
If they are talking about interest abroad (after their assumption of office) then these people are part of the problem not the solution.
From: Dr. C. CURTIS-THOMAS
To: All
Date Posted: 09:40:40 05/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.24.31.125
I appreciate your comment, OH WISE KING.
From: CADMUS
To: All
Date Posted: 10:32:48 05/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 81.2.90.163
One of the first actions of the SLPP government is to establish the ACC.A step in the right direction.
From: Dr. C. CURTIS-THOMAS
To: All
Date Posted: 10:39:15 05/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.24.31.125
"...tht SLPP government is to establish the ACC..." (CADMUS)
From: CADMUS
To: All
Date Posted: 14:06:12 05/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 86.155.64.49
Dr C. CURTIS-THOMAS
I stand corrected... SLPP ESTABLISHED the ACC and under SoloB it will be even more of a force to be rekond with.
From: Dr. C. CURTIS-THOMAS
To: All
Date Posted: 09:45:02 05/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.24.31.125
I was hoping you would address the more important issue, i.e., "the disclosure of assets". In any event thanks for your comment.
From: Knice
To: All
Date Posted: 10:13:16 05/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-457836a6.dyn.optonline.net at 69.120.54.166
They are not all the same, and Sir Milton Margai does not owe Sierra Leone any apologies. Before his foray into politics Sir Milton served brilliantly as a medical doctor in all corners of Sierra Leone. Pamphlets he published on midwifery contributed to significant improvements in the safety of both mother and child during child birth. His first political activity was in joining the likes of Chief Julius Gulama and Dr. John Karefa-Smart to call for a seat for citizens of the protectorate at the table of Sierra Leonean affairs. Their activities led to the formation of the Protectorate Assembly in 1947 and later in the formation of the SLPP as vehicle for protectorate opinion. Sir Milton served as Prime Minister for only three years, and the country he passed along was full of hope and poised for greatness. It is in fact Sierra Leone that owes Sir Milton a depth of gratitude.
From: Dr. CHARLES CURTIS-THOMAS
To: All
Date Posted: 10:12:14 05/02/07 ()
Email Address: RNMDTWO@YAHOO.COM
Entered From: at 198.24.31.125
3. The Commission is of the view that the adoption of its recommendations will assist the people of Sierra Leone to rise above the bitter conflicts of the past, which caused unspeakable violations of human rights and left a legacy of dehumanisation, hatred and fear.
From: MUSA KAMARA
To: All
Date Posted: 08:15:59 05/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: luna.hypair.net at 194.50.180.4
The blood of the innocent killed by your murderous,tribalistic kamajors will haunt you.Thanks to Mr Kabs for this forum we have started short-listing you guys.As Achebe indicated in his things fall apart,I quote him:'AN OLD WOMAN IS ALWAYS UNEASY WHEN DRY BONES ARE MENTIONED IN THE TOPIC'Your power thirst prompted you to form that hideous and tribalistic sect.This time around any attempt to disrupt the peace would be met be a solid and swift reaction.We know you are presently engage in finding ways of rigging the elections.You are adamant to accept the fact you have failed the nation.You have lost both the elections and your credibility long ago in the face of the nation.
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 11:25:01 05/02/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-mtc-aa04.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.116.8
Kamajors protected the innocent while the AFRC and the RUF killed innocent people solely to keep and retain ill-gotten wealth and power. In the process, criminal opportunists and revenge-seekers used the AFRC/RUF created and maintained mayhem to commit all sorts of crimes against innocent people and pretended to be Kamajors for effect.
From: Salone boy
To: All
Date Posted: 11:31:04 05/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 175-64-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl at 88.159.64.175
orumites please, read John Leigh's tale to distort the facts; here he goes "The Kamajors also formed genuine alliances with other community defence groups around the entire country for nationwide local protection. These alliances comprised our proud former Civil Defence Force.
John Ernest Leigh, if the dead can avenge their perpetrators, you will not write the above statement. It is inconceivable that a man who claims that he is upright will come here and write the above distortion. Please, read the TRc report; "In many instances the Kamajors used these statements as a justification to mount attacks on military positions in the Southern Province, as well as at selected strategic points in the Northern and Eastern Provinces. Many such attacks by the Kamajors caused violations against civilians by one or both sides in the process".
From: Amy Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:18:22 05/02/07 ()
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"It is inconceivable that a man who claims that he is upright will come here and write the above distortion."
From: Yatey yatey
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Date Posted: 09:02:49 05/02/07 ()
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Testing. I will be weeding out all AFRC and RUF remnants on this forum.
From: APC
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Date Posted: 08:29:44 05/02/07 ()
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Man you are making a fool of yourself. Are you on drug overdose? Go detox.
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 08:26:59 05/02/07 ()
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"'AN OLD WOMAN IS ALWAYS UNEASY WHEN DRY BONES ARE MENTIONED IN THE TOPIC'"
Is that why you are so defensive? Were you a Cannibal? Did you while an RUf eat your captors? Allah will guide you for your deeds. LONTA!
From: JOHNNY
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Date Posted: 07:58:32 05/02/07 ()
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see SLPP BEAUTY
From: JOHHNY
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Date Posted: 08:01:55 05/02/07 ()
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http://www.crawfurd.dk/photos/gallery/index.php?pageNum_rsSlideshow=20&totalRows_rsSlideshow=30&gallery=ghana50&seq=0&page=0
From: MUSA KAMARA
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Date Posted: 06:58:58 05/02/07 ()
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Alieu,you are so silly and stupid to mention such a statement that the hideous cannibals by the name of kamajors brought democracy.Those were murderous monsters who were tribalistic in their hideous acts.Shame on you.God will punish all of you for the death of innocent people.Your evil gang by the name of slpp will loose and go trash.
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 11:03:54 05/02/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Mr. Alieu Sesay is absolutely right: the Kamajors did a tremendous job defending their communities and providing substantial support to restore parliament, the elected government and our Constitution by helping ECOMOG evict Foot of State Johnny Paul Book-Mumu Koroma/RUF's junta of barbarians, savages, killers, child rapists, thieves, arsonists, cut-hand maimers and brutal crasies.
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 09:51:26 05/03/07 ()
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Mr. Attorney, its time for you to raise the white flag on personal attacks and start debating issues relevant to the election. Thank you. -JL
John Leigh if this is in reference to me please be put on notice that I have not been on this forum in two weeks and I am only now seeing it for the first time in as many weeks from my comfortable hotel room somewhere other than the US. You know how I feel about the great myth called the kamajors and I have expressed that feeling through my own dawgone name. Tell me why I would now turn around like a dog with its tal between its legs, cowardly use another name to critic that which I have done uneder my own name. Give me a break Bra
Cheers!!!!!!!!!
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 11:00:46 05/03/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Al: ATTY RUF MUSA KAMARA is not you. He is a foolumunku idiot trying to talk like a lawyer who attended a school for remedial dumbos. - JL
From: concerned
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Date Posted: 07:55:00 05/02/07 ()
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How old are again? Over fifty? Whats happening with your mental?
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 06:58:37 05/02/07 ()
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From: Kohtoh Kamal
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Date Posted: 11:18:45 05/04/07 ()
Email Address: kamal@hotmail.com
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You never cease to amaze me with this rotten posture. Chavez is doing precisely what the Soviet Union and China did the 50 years since the 2nd world war: look what it got them.
From: Patriot
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Date Posted: 11:46:53 05/02/07 ()
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Mr. Jalloh, I want to thank oyu for bringing this to our attention. Let the SLPP whose leaders are sell-outs to the IMF take notice that all deveoping countries are led by suckers like President Kabbah and his hencman Berewa.
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 19:36:56 05/02/07 ()
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Patriot:
From: AMAZING
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Date Posted: 12:15:48 05/02/07 ()
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And it is this fool Berewa WHO HAS THE LIBA TO SAY HE WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT of SaLone.
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What I find most disturbing is that the smae Sierra Leoneans who sat still and let a dog-cather like Siaka Stevens become presidsent 40 years ago in 1967 are still sitting down and risking allowing someone even more incomepent than Stevens to become president in 2007!
From: ITK
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Date Posted: 14:29:23 05/03/07 ()
Email Address: ishmael.taylorkamara@kattenlaw.com
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Amazing:
However, as we know Sankoh and his men proved unable to lay down their arms and join the rest of the country in the processes reconcialtion, rehabilitation and peacebuilding.
From: Since when?
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Date Posted: 11:54:20 05/02/07 ()
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IMF = APC. The IMF was the Brainchild of the APC. Why did you not cry down the IMF then? Why now? Oh you were old enough to see that their impact on the country's development was a negative one.
From: Patriot
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Date Posted: 12:08:41 05/02/07 ()
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How do you know that I did not cry down the IMF before now?
From: FBC
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Date Posted: 12:22:50 05/02/07 ()
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"Was it not the SLPP leader who brought the IMF to devalue the Salone currency when he introduced his two-tier system in 1979, as minister of finace in Siaka Stevens' govt?"
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 07:01:53 05/02/07 ()
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The actions towards national independence by the leader of the patriotic government of Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez stand in stark contrast to the unpatriotic groveling into deepening foreign dependence of the clueless SLPP government of President Tejan Kabbah and his like-minded Vice President Solomon Berewa.
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 10:09:26 05/02/07 ()
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Moh'm, what's your take on the transformation from SLST to NDMC? Did our economy got any better after the takeover?
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 03:14:36 05/03/07 ()
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KING LOGGY:
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 19:23:19 05/02/07 ()
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KING LOGGY:
From: KONO MAN
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Date Posted: 11:52:49 05/02/07 ()
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KL, while you wait for Moh'm to answer your question, let me give you my two cents about SLST and NDMC.
From: MUSA KAMARA
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Date Posted: 06:54:54 05/02/07 ()
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Alieu,you are so silly and stupid to mention such a statement that the hideous cannibals by the name of kamajors brought democracy.Those were murderous monsters who were tribalistic in their hideous acts.Shame on you.God will punish all of you for the death of innocent people.Your evil gang by the name of slpp will loose and go trash.
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 07:52:22 05/02/07 ()
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IF i was a Kamajor, i will categorically say so. Why? Pride and i am not ashamed of my associations. You my friend, a Rebel( RUF) sympathizer, AFRC mouth piece, anti-democratic element, job seeker, agba setani, pass a die, will surely realise after elections that the people of sierra leone are still angry at what your group has put them through.
I saw your post where you were crying because somebody called you a Rebel. DUH! You were a Rebel and quit that crap about you stayed back and helped restore constitutional rule.
From: Concord Times.
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Date Posted: 21:41:50 05/01/07 ()
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By ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA, USA. 5/1/2007
From: CHARLES TAYLOR
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Date Posted: 21:07:04 05/01/07 ()
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Taylor is fedup with sausage and eggs.
From: Abu Baryoh
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Date Posted: 20:11:18 05/01/07 ()
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LAdies and gentlemen, just look at what John Leigh said and how he matched them with deeds. According to his website
"...Ambassador Leigh has also repeatedly stated that if another Party member, with superior credentials for the Party Leadership than himself, appears on the scene he will gladly step down for that individual..."
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"...At the UN, the President will probably be speaking to an empty or near-empty UN General Assembly Hall and his message is unlikely to have any lasting impact abroad...'
Abu
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 21:20:18 05/01/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Mr. so-called Abu Baryoh:
"...At the UN, the President will probably be speaking to an empty or near-empty UN General Assembly Hall and his message is unlikely to have any lasting impact abroad...'"
From: Alie Conteh
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Date Posted: 12:02:31 05/02/07 ()
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"You are confusing pre-convention politics with post-convention politics. They are two different things and all of this was discussed months ago in this forum."
From: BESIDES THE POINT
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Date Posted: 11:13:53 05/02/07 ()
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JL,
It did not matter where Berewa was there before you or not. If you knew that Berewa was the best candidate, why did you stand against him in the first place?
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 12:31:35 05/02/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Let me first have your true ID as well as every moniker/handle you have ever used in this forum before we can continue on this issue. - JL
From: Michael - Slam Dunk
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Date Posted: 15:04:40 05/02/07 ()
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Thats a slam dunk for BESIDES THE POINT. You will never get people's ID to start using your mumo-tumobo san san boy language against them. Answer their questions. You said one thing and did the other. You said you will step down for the fittest person, you didnt and now after been woefully walloped and "we was robbed", you are calling Berewa a hero. Its all in your website. Now why doyou need someone's ID to justify or debunk your stupid statements.
By the way, there is no such thing as "Pre" and "post" convention statement in politics. When you make a statement in your campaings, they must be true and you should live by them. Dont ask people to vote for you on the pretext that you are honest, and once you loose the election, you go back and tell them that you only said that so that they can vote for you. Tupit. Now answer the question or disappear. You cant write good english and do not have credibility. Except that you are a "Dokita". Now prnounce me "Dead" mr pronouncer Certified Nursing accountant.
Mike
From: Gambler
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Date Posted: 20:39:53 05/01/07 ()
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"John Leigh the flip-flopper. Is this the kind of leadership we are looking for?"
JL is not running for public office. He is a citizen who wishes to express his views on politics in Salone.
From: sylvester
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Date Posted: 08:52:47 05/02/07 ()
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And therefore he has a right to flip-flop right? JohnLeigh definitely wanst to be a public officer. He is the SLPP cyber-space (cum) cocorioko forum scribe. He is the propagander spinner and a blogger here. Therefore her is running for something
Get it John Leigh (also called Gambler)
From: Gambler
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Date Posted: 09:00:42 05/02/07 ()
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JL is JL. He does not use monikers to make his case.
From: Syl
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Date Posted: 11:10:40 05/02/07 ()
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ye, you right JL...ooopps sorry Gambler. JL is JL for real.Infact Syl is Syl. I dont user different monikers at all. But tell me something JL (sorry Gambler), how are you going to pull this off, with too many opposition raining down on you from all angle. I am not sure you can stand this. raise the white flag JL..ooops my bad Gambler.
Syl
From: APC
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Date Posted: 11:41:51 05/02/07 ()
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Yesterday you were APC, Today you are Syl. Hmmm. You don craise for true. Stay with Syl since no one has claimed that handle. If i am JL, then you are Bill Clinton.
From: Syl
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Date Posted: 11:50:05 05/02/07 ()
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John Leigh...ooopps again APC (by the way are now in APC for real, or just for this thread?), you have too many questions to answer. Why are you lying to the people of america? When did your CNA certificate expire? I know the first group home you worked in when you came here...infact I know someone who has a copy of your timecard. I was told that you put in a lot of hours -OT. Infact someone said that at one time they called you Johnny the Over Timer (JOT for short for short.
Now do you stand by your word that you have a better credeial than Berewa? JL..oopps very sorry this this time APC - by the way someone has been using that handle. Make sure you are very brief with it.
Syl
From: APC
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Date Posted: 11:57:55 05/02/07 ()
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" by the way someone has been using that handle. Make sure you are very brief with it".
You finally admit to your multi-handler misuse.
wae you bin dae school nar so o spy you bin dae pan.
From: Mardoma Navo
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Date Posted: 19:39:46 05/01/07 ()
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John Leigh recently made the following statement "I pronounce vice president Berewa mentally and physically fit to run for president"
My question: Does a CNA liscences makes one a medical doctor to declare someone "mentally and physically fit to run for president"?
Mardoma Navo
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 00:11:38 05/02/07 ()
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So you are now calling yourself Mardoma Navo?
Craise nor good oh.....hehehehehehe. JL don finish you Kpata Kpata.
I suggest that you raise the white flag, or better yet go back to the hole from which you crawled out of. Good Bye!!!!!
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 21:26:23 05/01/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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As I-MAN would say "you nah craise man".
From: Curious Guy
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Date Posted: 08:57:38 05/02/07 ()
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John Leigh, how come an MBA transforms you into a medical doctor where you make pronouncements like that. I didnt get the chance to see your psotings, but if that is true, then I assume you are wrong. I also have an MBA (from an Ivy league school), but I dont venture in areas where I do not have authority. Hope this guy is worng.
Curious Guy
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