Subject: Run-off Scenarios
From: Jimmy Kandeh
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Date Posted: 08:54:22 04/16/07 ()
Email Address: jkandeh@richmond.edu
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The APC may have a good chance (thanks to the SLPP's performance) of making the presidential run-off but it is not likely to unseat the SLPP in a direct contest. The PMDC has a better chance against the SLPP in a a run-off because APC loyalists would rather vote for the PMDC than SLPP. By contrast, PMDC supporters are more likely to throw their weight behind the SLPP in a contest with the APC. The following run-off possibilities are worth pondering:
(1) PMDC - APC. This is the most likely run-off scenario, assuming a free and fair presidential contest. The APC will lose in this match-up because the bulk of SLPP diehards (excluding elites who may prefer the APC) would rather vote PMDC than APC. The APC is still reviled in many parts of the south and east, where the plurality of folks would rather vote independent or for a new party than APC.
(2) SLPP - PMDC. This is the SLPP's worst nightmare - to face the PMDC, not the APC, in a presidential run-off. The SLPP will lose this contest partly because APC loyalists can be as anti-SLPP as SLPP loyalists are anti-APC.
(3) SLPP - APC. This is the SLPP's only chance of winning the elections by default because many PMDC supporters would rather vote SLPP than APC, no matter how odious the SLPP's performance.
In short, the APC cannot electorally defeat the SLPP or PMDC in a run-off but the PMDC can defeat both parties if it makes it to the second round. This says less about the PMDC, however, than about the track records of the other two parties. A PMDC win, in other words, will be a victory by default - i.e., a vote against the SLPP or APC, rather than a vote for the PMDC.
Subject: Forecast for July 28
From: Bella Barrie
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Date Posted: 07:15:01 04/16/07 ()
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Forecast for July 28
These are my forecast for July 28 2007 Election
1. 60% of polling stations will open late; Only God knows why may be the politicians.
2. 20% of the polling stations will open early than expected; again this will allow some form of ceremonies to take place.
3. 10% of the polling stations will open on time as expected.
4. 10% of the polling stations might not exist at all. May be in space, we need to find out were this polling stations are located.
5. Some polling stations will stay open even thought their closing times have past.
6. Some polling stations will close early.
7. More votes will be counted than the population of the area, WHY?
8. A recount will take place.
9. Another recount will take place
10. And finally there will be no true winner.
Hopping to be wrong. Free and Fair Election is what we want. However any forecast are welcome.
Bella Barrie
Subject: Re: Forecast for July 28
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 07:32:35 04/16/07 ()
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If you are real, how do you regain your composure for April 21 in Nigeria ?
Subject: Moijuie Where are you?
From: FORREST GUMP
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Date Posted: 06:44:07 04/16/07 ()
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Moijuie we hope all is well with you why the long silence? If you are having second thought about joining the PMDC We can put in good word for you to rejoin the SLPP, but you have to hurry because very soon there will be A FIVE YEAR WAITING LIST. You don't want to be left out do you?
FORREST
Subject: Re: Moijuie Where are you?
From: CADMUS
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Date Posted: 07:36:19 04/16/07 ()
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Please allow me to second
Subject: JOHN LEIGH FINALLY EXPOSED
From: Calling John Leigh to the Podium
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Date Posted: 05:07:05 04/16/07 ()
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Posted by Patrick Komba in reply to John Leigh:
You think because I criticized someone, I should abandon him and jump into another bed? Is that your idea of politics? Isn't that prostitution? -- John Leigh
John Leigh, your words give me the evidence that you did not understand what I wrote. It is a comprehension problem you share with most of your fellow blind SLPP hengdandae supporters like the chicken-handle coward independent man.
When I said you are a political prostitute that does not mean you jump from one man's bed to another just because you criticized the first man. That is your rubbish understanding by which you make the world know that you are the one that suffers from English incomprehension, not me.
For your information what makes a man a political prostitute is he hops from one man's bed to another for no other reason but money, not criticism. For that reason you are a koro political prostitute. You hopped from your former master, President Kabbah's bed because he could no longer continue to pay you for your past services to him by keeping you as a bribe-for-your-appointment ambassador to the USA.
Now, like a money-nar-han-back-nar-gron political prostitute, you have hopped from Kabbah's dirty bed to your new master, Berewa's dirtier bed, not because you had criticized him for his corruption, but because you desperately want to recover your bribe money to Kabbah's SLPP from Berewa's SLPP. Selling yourself to every John (actually, two johns) is what makes you a political prostitute, John Leigh.
As for your understand-nothing nonsense argument that you can not be a prostitute because you did not jump from the SLPP to another party, ask yourself one question, John Leigh, if it was not the SLPP who took your bribes in exchange for ministerial appointment if they won the 1996 elections? You have admitted paying them many times, even though they only managed you with ambassador appointment. Are you going to go to the APC or PMDC to try to recover your bribe-money's investment in the SLPP?
Of course not, even you John Leigh are not that stupid. That is why you hop from one man's SLPP bed (Kabbah) to the next man's SLPP bed (Berewa), even though you have dismissed both men as corrupt politicians.
That is what makes you a political prostitute, John Leigh, the same as a money-nar-han-back-nar-gron prostitute at the ghetto in kroo bay in Freetown that is one of the many filthy accomplishments of your good-for-nothing SLPP hengandae party of political prostitutes. Now you know.
Subject: Re: JOHN LEIGH FINALLY EXPOSED
From: Analyst
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Date Posted: 06:58:05 04/16/07 ()
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This is a very good analysis of JL's flip-flopping. Let us see if he can accept himself for who he has become, not what he wants to be seen as.
Subject: MARGAI EXCLUSIVE
From: ALAN BARRY
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Date Posted: 03:19:46 04/16/07 ()
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The following link takes you to an unedited version of Margai's public address at London's Chatham House - Forum for Independent Thinking on International Affairs, on December 7, 2006, during his Trans-Atlantic Tour. Must Read:
http://www.chathamh ouse.org. uk/pdf/research/ africa/071206mar gai.pdf
Subject: Ah dey can go Sweh John Leigh
From: Waraba
To: All
Date Posted: 00:27:10 04/16/07 ()
Email Address: futatoro@gmail.com
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Forumites! I have had it up to my nose with dis Leigh Borboh
because of een constant lie lie on APC. Ah dey can go do mi ritual for make John Leigh get stroke. So he mot kin set tight lekkeh he get lockjaw. Ah dey go nah bush en go pick up branches and leaves dem for kam do the ritual. Unah watch oh! He go start for waker lekkeh Sally wansie.
Waraba don finish di sweh pan borboh leigh
Waraba
Subject: Re: Ah dey can go Sweh John Leigh
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 02:17:54 04/16/07 ()
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I never thought anyone could get to APC supporters and politicians the way John Leigh has. APC is the party that traditionally has an effective propanganda machine - unfortunately that machine seems to have run out of steam in this election....As for PMDC, John Leigh finished them a long time ago. They are all dejected. All they can do now is engage in RUDENESS and CUSS CUSS,.....
I say Kudos to John Leigh!! He is doing a great service for his party.
Yaya, performing a ritual shows how desperate you guys have become. You have to go back to the drawing board to come up with something more original. But most important of all, you have to send money to your party in Freetown. They have used the one they had to bribe members to agree to the so-called PEACE deal......
Subject: Re: Ah dey can go Sweh John Leigh
From: BUFORD HWY
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Date Posted: 06:22:43 04/16/07 ()
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Independent/SLPP Man
Bra Waraba and Bra leigh had been having this problem since they were kids in the OLD DAYS.WORD AROUND THE FORUM is Waraba took Leigh's girl friend(TANIBOLA) when Liegh was living in KANEKAY,AND bra Leigh had been fighting with Waraba since then.WAF is in 1967 Bra Leigh was going to join the Newly Formed APC YOUTH LEAGUE,but when he found out that Waraba was the youth leader,he opted for your CORRUPT SLPP party,so you see this has nothing to do with the APC party.WARABA DOYA AH DAE BEG FOR BRA LEIGH.LEF AM U BEN DON TAKE EH WOMAN NA DA BROKE HART DAE EN PAIN DAE PANAM TAI TIDAY,AND IF U GO SWEH AM,WE NOR GO GET ANY BODI WAY GO DAE TALK FOR DI SWEGBEH PARTY (SLPP).
Subject: Karamoh on Chinua Achebe's kwenu.com
From: karamoh kabba
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Date Posted: 00:10:37 04/16/07 ()
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http://kwenu.com/story/2007/kabba_milton.htm
Subject: Kanji Daramy writes Sierra Leone's President Kabbah/ MASSAQU
From: musa Kalawa
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Date Posted: 19:54:28 04/15/07 ()
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Kanji Daramy writes Sierra Leone's President Kabbah
By K.K.S. Daramy
Apr 11, 2007, 21:13
NTC/Media/07 10th April, 2007
His Excellency, The President
Alhaji Dr. Ahmad Tejan Kabbah
Office of the President
Hill Station
Freetown
Your Excellency, Sir,
RE: OPEN LETTER TO YOU BY MAXWELL MASSAQUOI
I read this morning in the Concord Times Newspaper a letter written to you by one Maxwell Massaquoi who has vented his vexation because he failed to secure a job with the National Telecommunications Commission.
The fact is that Mr. Massaquoi applied for the post of Director of Consumer and Industry Affairs which had been advertised since the beginning of February this year and was shortlisted and interviewed for the position alongside with other applicants.
In the advertisement for the post in question the qualification required was a postgraduate degree. In his Curriculum Vitae submitted with his application, Mr. Massaquoi indicated that he had an MBA degree from Howard University and stated 1997 to be the year in which he graduated. During the interview Mr. Massaquoi was not able to provide an original nor a copy of his MBA degree. When questioned by the panelists interviewing him about the authenticity of his qualifications he could not produce anything. Rather, after he had left the interview he sent a copy of a request he had sent to Howard University on 15th March 2007 to get his certificate replaced.
Upon examination of the said request it was observed that while he claimed in his CV to have graduated with an MBA from Howard University in 1997, he stated in the request that his date of graduation was May 2002. Members who had interviewed him saw this inconsistency in the two dates as a very serious anomaly. It stood out therefore that Mr. Massaquoi could not support his claim to have had an MBA degree.
The interview panel consisted of myself and five members of the Commission, namely, Mr. Melvin Tucker, Mr. Shekou M. Tuoray, Mr. S.K. Bart-Williams, Mr. S.R. Tumoe and Mr. Ibrahim Kabia. Mr. Massaquoi came only third in terms of the scores recorded independently by all six panelists. The job was therefore offered to the candidate with the highest score who happens to have two Masters Degrees, in respect of which he provided proofs.
I notice that Mr. Massaquoi has been trying, strenuously, to make certain allegations about me for reasons best known to him but he did not mention for once that he supplied information about his having a postgraduate degree which he could not prove by evidentiary proof nor did he provide any authentic proofs about the many other professional and experiential claims he voluntarily mentioned in his CV and application for the post he applied for. In short Mr. Massaquoi was not selected for appointment by the panel of interviewers.
I am attaching photocopies of the first page of his CV indicating 1997 as his date of graduation from Howard University and his request for replacement of his degree certificate in which he mentions May 2002, a totally different date of his graduation from the same University and allegedly, the same qualification.
Yours Faithfully,
K.K.S. Daramy
Commissioner and Chairman
CC: The Vice President
Speaker of Parliament
Subject: Re: Kanji Daramy writes Sierra Leone's President Kabbah/ MASSAQU
From: Kanforie Sorie Koroma
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Date Posted: 20:15:24 04/15/07 ()
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This is a man who stole so much at SALPOST he brought the company down but in the SLPP government there is nothing wrong with that. It is very bad. Kanji Daramy should be in jail .Kabbah got no right to have him employing people. He is a thief himself. The other guy tried to use fake degree but Kanji too is very corrupt .
Subject: When will women ever have human rights ?
From: Sallieu Mansaray
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Date Posted: 19:37:21 04/15/07 ()
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Taken from Tanzania press
Easter Monday nightmare for ladies dressed in revealing attire
By Valentine Marc Nkwame
They were probably ‘dressed for the occasion,’ but little did they know that ‘they’ will end up being the ‘occasion.’ Some four young ladies, who chose to put on highly revealing attires last Easter Monday, discovered that they were in for some serious headaches in town.
The four ladies, whose names weren’t immediately available, found themselves attracting a rather huge crowd of people, mostly male youths, who stalked them wherever they went, booing, whistling and shouting, much to their dismay.
The ladies never made it to their destination, wherever that was, because their efforts to shake off the crowd of leering youths behind them, proved not only futile, but also every time they tried to take another route, they kept gathering more ‘followers.’ The situation got worse when they passed near the central market, where all hell broke loose.
Some traders and other hooligans who happened to be in the area started hurling rotten fruits and pieces of junk to the ladies shouting to them that they should ‘go home and get dressed!’ Here the now frightened pack of four decided to take on their heels and run.
This again became even more hilarious, since they had put on high heeled shoes and two of them fell down in the process. Never giving up, they took off their clogs and proceeded to run bare feet along Azimio road and onto the main Uhuru-Sokoine road, still with the now larger crowd in hot pursuit.
The pandemonium almost caused an accident at the Metropole Cinema area, where the ladies tried to out-run their followers by suddenly crossing the road, aiming to shake off the crowd, but the animated mass of people behind them chose to also follow them across without looking either left or right. Loud screechings and hooting ensued but luckily the motorists managed to brake in time.
The incident lasted for almost one hour, in which the ladies who were dressed in tight revealing trousers and a few ‘strings’ on top, decided to take the route heading to Unga-Limited via Arusha Secondary school. It wasn’t clear how the drama ended as they were last seen speeding down southwards. The time was about 6.30pm and the incident according to witnesses, had started at around 4.30pm.
Subject: AN INTERESTING COCORIOKO POLL FOR PRESIDENT
From: Dr. C. CURTIS-THOMAS
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Date Posted: 16:40:42 04/15/07 ()
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The President of Sierra Leone after July
My Party And Candidate For 2007
PMDC - Charles Margai
22%
APC - Ernest Koroma
47%
SLPP - Solomon Berewa
31%
Total Votes : 72
Subject: A VERY INTERESTING IRANIAN GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE
From: Dr. CHARLES CURTIS-THOMAS
To: All
Date Posted: 16:32:28 04/15/07 ()
Email Address: RNMDTWO@YAHOO.COM
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1. THE PRESIDENT: The President is not entirely a figurehead, but he has limited power.
2. THE LEGISLATURE: The Majlis, also known as the Islamic Consultative Assembly, has 290 members who serve four-year terms. Like the President, their powers are limited.
3. THE JUDICIARY: The Judiciary branch is independent-except that the Leader can overrule anything it does.
4. THE COUNCIL OF GUARDIANS: Made up of twelve members and headed by the Leader. The Council screens all prospective candidates for all elected offices including members of the Majlis, The assembly of Experts, and the President. Six of the members are appointed by the Leader and six are chosen by the head of the Judiciary, who is himself appointed by the Leader.
5. THE ASSEMBLY OF EXPERTS: The Assembly selects and supervises the Leader. Its eighty-six members are elected by the public for eight-year terms.
6. THE EXPEDIENCY COUNCIL: Consisting of twenty-five members, The Expediency Council mediates disputes between the Majlis and the Council of Guardians. The leader sets its agenda.
7. THE LEADER: Known in Iran as the RAHBAR and often, for effect, as the SUPREME LEADER. The Leader can overrule any decisions made by the President. the Majlis, or the Judiciary.
From the aforementioned, it is evident that this "IRANIAN RUSH" to get a Nuclear weapon is not entirely the President of Iran's decision.
Subject: Is Dauda Tombo A Vice Presidential Material
From: Hateem
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Date Posted: 15:18:35 04/15/07 ()
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I have been following with keen interest the so called fallout in the PMDC because of the choice of the running mate,but one question that has not been asked is-IS DAUDA TOMBO A VICE PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL-I do not know Dauda Tombo that well but from what I have heard from those who know him he is not a vice presidential material.I know some in the opposition where salivating for Dauda to be the running mate because he would have been shred into pieces.Now that they are dissapointed that he was not chosen,they are accusing Margai of being a dictator.Is choosing a running mate not the sole perogative of the presidential contender.The real questions that we should be asking is why is the ruling party and the biggest opposition party delaying in choosing their running mates with just three months to elections.Why are the people of Sierra Leone taken for granted again by these unscrupulous politicians.Are they trying to tell us that the office of the Vice President is not important.I beg to differ because the Vice Presidency is just a heartbeat away from the highest office in the land and given the life expectancy and other factors in Sierra Leone,it is possible that if Berewa were to become President he would not end his term.
I have finally decided not to support any of the presidential candidate because one of them is "stinkingly" corrupt,the other one is a decent guy but he is surrounded by those who destroyed the very fabric of the country and the new kid on the block I am afraid would be a divider and not a uniter,that's why I am glad I am out of the country and I won't have to make a choice between three evils.For the people in Sierra Leone I advice you all to choose the lesser of the three evil as you have no choice but please do not expect dramatic changes as corruption wil continue unabated,you would still go to bed hungry infive years from now,mansions would continue to be erected at the hillside and Sierra Leone would still be at the bottom of the human development index five years from now.Our only hope is to pray for a divine intervention
Subject: Re: Is Dauda Tombo A Vice Presidential Material
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 16:10:46 04/15/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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More than Mr. Bangura's situation caused the fallout.
First, Mr. Bangura was not the only candidates. There were three or four others - good people - who had obeyed the rules laid down by the leadership and had submitted their applications only to be rudely surprised.
News reports had their leader say he will forward the applications to the Northern Province PMDC Chair for evaluation and then announce his choice. All this now turns out to be a charade.
Instead, a kindergarten stunt was pulled upsetting, not only hopefuls but many consciencious PMDCers who had thought they had been taken seriously all along by Mr. Margai only to find out that they had been used and discarded.
Also offended were certain people who felt that Mr. Margai took them for fools thinking that his stunt would fool them and lead them to switch from the SLPP to the PMDC merely because a kinsman was selected as running mate. He was mistaken.
The resulting impulsion is irreparable. - JL
Subject: Re: Is Dauda Tombo A Vice Presidential Material
From: kroobaymom
To: All
Date Posted: 16:18:07 04/15/07 ()
Email Address: kroobaymom@yahoo.com
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JL, does this remind you of the ordeal you went through in trying to secure the leadership of the SLPP? Will you be vying for the running mate position?
If what I hear from the grapevine is right, you are more a northerner than Momodu Koroma. So why not try your luck. My grandpa comes from Port Loko. We can arrange a new birth certificate for you and get you to come pour libation at his grave sometime next week. How about that?
Subject: Re: Is Dauda Tombo A Vice Presidential Material
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 21:43:30 04/15/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Mr. kroobaymom:
My answers to your questions are NO.
Next, I do not use fake certificates of any kind; and I do not partake of fetish. All the same, I thank for your kind interest. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: Is Dauda Tombo A Vice Presidential Material - MARGAI WAS
From: Chief Bomborlai
To: All
Date Posted: 03:29:53 04/16/07 ()
Email Address: Chiefbomborlai@yahoo.com
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Message:
SIERRA LEONE 1991 CONSTITUTION
CHAPTER V — THE EXECUTIVE
Part 1 - The President
The Vice President
54. (1) There shall be a Vice-President of the Republic of Sierra Leone who shall be the Principal Assistant to the President in the discharge of his executive functions.
(2) A person—
1. shall be designated a candidate for the office of Vice-President by a Presidential candidate before a Presidential election;
PEOPLE'S MOVEMENT FOR DEMOCRATIC CHANGE CONSTITUTION
ARTICLE VII SEC 2
(C) LEADER:
i. He shall be the Presidential candidate and political head of the Movement.
ii He shall have the discretion to choose his running mate in consultation with the National Council.
Subject: Is Dauda Tombo A Vice Presidential Material
From: Hateem
To: All
Date Posted: 15:17:05 04/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I have been following with keen interest the so called fallout in the PMDC because of the choice of the running mate,but one question that has not been asked is-IS DAUDA TOMBO A VICE PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL-I do not know Dauda Tombo that well but from what I have heard from those who know him he is not a vice presidential material.I know some in the opposition where salivating for Dauda to be the running mate because he would have been shred into pieces.Now that they are dissapointed that he was not chosen,they are accusing Margai of being a dictator.Is choosing a running mate not the sole perogative of the presidential contender.The real questions that we should be asking is why is the ruling party and the biggest opposition party delaying in choosing their running mates with just three months to elections.Why are the people of Sierra Leone taken for granted again by these unscrupulous politicians.Are they trying to tell us that the office of the Vice President is not important.I beg to differ because the Vice Presidency is just a heartbeat away from the highest office in the land and given the life expectancy and other factors in Sierra Leone,it is possible that if Berewa were to become President he would not end his term.
I have finally decided not to support any of the presidential candidate because one of them is "stinkingly" corrupt,the other one is a decent guy but he is surrounded by those who destroyed the very fabric of the country and the new kid on the block I am afraid would be a divider and not a uniter,that's why I am glad I am out of the country and I won't have to make a choice between three evils.For the people in Sierra Leone I advice you all to choose the lesser of the three evil as you have no choice but please do not expect dramatic changes as corruption wil continue unabated,you would still go to bed hungry infive years from now,mansions would continue to be erected at the hillside and we would still be at the bottom of the human development index five years from now.Our only hope is to pray for a divine intervention
Subject: APC IS DEAD BROKE - SO SAYS ERNEST KOROMA!!!!
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 14:26:18 04/15/07 ()
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“Kortor” Bai Koroma Says APC is Broke to the Bone
Posted by on Apr 15, 2007, 10:06
To say the rising sun party APC is finically broke to the bone is not coming from Bee’s tiny mouth but from “Kortor” Bai Koroma.
The inquisitive creature Busy Bee was among a group of APC top vons in close door meeting held at the party headquarters at Brookfields after the peace march last Saturday. Bee went to the meeting to hear the message that the rising sun party supporters from the Diaspora brought for the party. Bee did not actually hear any important word from all those that came from overseas.
In addressing the gathering, the rising sun party flag bearer “Kortor” Bai Koroma told Bee and Beelets that the party is financially broke to the bone which will deter it from taking a vigorous campaign for the upcoming July 28 elections. “Kortor” urged the Diaspora rising sun party members to send their contribution.
“The party needs at least US$3,000/00 (three million dollars) for the campaign exercise. “Kortor Bai added that the party’s overseas members are reluctant to pay their dues. Bee too is echoing the voice of his friends to all rising sun party members to respond financially to boost the party.
Subject: Re: APC IS DEAD BROKE - SO SAYS ERNEST KOROMA!!!!
From: APC
To: All
Date Posted: 15:26:55 04/15/07 ()
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Message:
Alieu, Kanforie and Yayah. we need money to run the Party. you guys talk about APC yet you refuse to pay your dues. We are asking for $3000.00 thats all.
We have JD, PhD, UEF. I know you guys can comep with this small amount so we can make the elections intresting.
thanks and god bless.
Subject: Re: APC IS DEAD BROKE - SO SAYS ERNEST KOROMA!!!!
From: BUFORD HWY
To: All
Date Posted: 06:57:42 04/16/07 ()
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Message:
If you that LOYAL to the APC party,why don't you take the MONEY that your TIFF TIFF SLPP party has stolen from our PEOPLE and go FIX THE PUJEHUN BRIDGE? You see we have to come and CLEAN your MESS come august 1ST. GOD BLESS THE NEW APC AND THE PEOPLE OF SIERRA LEONE!
Subject: Re: APC IS DEAD BROKE - SO SAYS ERNEST KOROMA!!!!
From: KAFFIR DETECTOR
To: All
Date Posted: 19:05:43 04/15/07 ()
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Message:
APC BIZ is none of your biz you KAFFIR
Subject: Re: APC IS DEAD BROKE - SO SAYS ERNEST KOROMA!!!!
From: APC
To: All
Date Posted: 22:28:07 04/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
you can call me what you want but the Party is Broke. Our credit is bad, the people can't even take our cash. Ou financial situation is desperate and you are busy calling me KAFFIR?
We need money...
Subject: Re: APC IS DEAD BROKE - SO SAYS ERNEST KOROMA!!!!
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 06:32:41 04/16/07 ()
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Times are hard, "God bless the child that's got it's own" and let's pray that the climate in the country improves.
Subject: is the sun about to set again at midday?
From: CHIEFDOM ELDERS
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Date Posted: 15:47:31 04/15/07 ()
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IS THE SUN ABOUT TO SET AGAIN AT MIDDAY?
Subject: No Hiding Place for crimes against humanity
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 13:25:46 04/15/07 ()
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>WEST AFRICAN MAN SUSPECTED OF WAR CRIMES CONVICTED FOR FRAUD,PERJURY
>10 April 2007
>US Fed News
>Hindustan Times
>
>
>CHICAGO, April 10 -- The U.S. Department of Homeland Security'sU.S.
>Immigration and Customs Enforcement issued the following pressrelease:
>
>A West African man suspected of committing crimes against humanityin
>Liberia was convicted here last week in federal court for lying abouthis
>involvement with armed rebel groups to falsely gain entry to the U.S. asa refugee.
>
>Prince Solomon Knox, 44, a native of Sierra Leone and resident of St.
>Louis, Mo., fraudulently entered the U.S. in 2004 as a refugee througha
>program to admit Liberians living in the Ivory Coast. He was convictedApril 4 on
>four counts of lying on immigration forms and in interviews with
>immigration officers about being a combatant with armed rebel groupsthat committed human
>rights violations in parts of West Africa during much of the1990s.
>
>According to court documents, Knox was admitted to the U.S. asa
>refugee and entered at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport on April14, 2004.
>In applying for admission, Knox failed to disclose his affiliations withthe
>Revolutionary United Front (RUF), a rebel army comprised mainly ofSierra Leoneans
>that fought a failed insurrection in Sierra Leone from about 1991 to2002; the
>National Patriotic Front of Liberia (NPFL), an armed rebel groupclosely
>aligned with the RUF; and the Independent National Patriotic Front ofLiberia (INPFL),
>a separate rebel faction of the NPFL.
>
>On Dec. 9, 2003, in Abidjan, Ivory Coast, Knox completed a refugee
>application that failed to disclose his affiliations with the RUF, NPFL,and INPFL,
>organizations that engaged in civilian massacres, mutilations,
>recruitment of child soldiers and other human rights violations. Duringan interview
>with a U.S. immigration officer, Knox falsely stated under oath that hehad
>performed no past military service; had not been a member in armedgroups; had
>provided no aid to armed groups; had not been a member of a terroristorganization
>or member of a group that endorsed terrorist activity; and had neverheld a
>weapon. He also repeated that he had never held a weapon in an interviewwith an
>ICE agent on March 26, 2006.
>
>"ICE will not allow the United States to become a safe haven forthose
>who come to this country in an attempt to evade prosecution andpunishment for
>human rights violations committed abroad," said Elissa A. Brown, ICEspecial
>agent-in-charge who heads the Chicago Office of Investigations."They
>come here thinking they can escape their past, but they are not welcomehere."
>
>Assistant U.S. Attorney Michelle Nasser Weiss prosecuted thiscase
>with the assistance of the U.S. Attorney's Office in St. Louis,Mo.
>
>Immigration fraud carries a maximum penalty of 25 years in prisonand
>a $250,000 fine, and making false statements carries a maximum penaltyof five
>years in prison and a $250,000 fine on each count. Sentencing for Knoxis
>scheduled for May 17. Following the conclusion of the defendant'scriminal
>proceedings, Knox will be placed into deportation proceedings.
>
>Identifying and removing persecutors and human rights violatorsfrom
>the United States is one of ICE's top enforcement programs. To achievethis goal,
>ICE created the Human Rights Violators Unit, with a specific mandateto
>deny safe haven to human rights violators by bringing to bear a fullrange of
>investigative techniques and legal authorities to identify, locate,
>investigate and remove them from the United States. To date, ICE hasinitiated
>nationwide over 800 human rights related investigations or removal casesfrom
>over 26 countries.
>
>ICE encourages the public to come forward with any informationthey
>may have regarding human rights abusers living in the United States.Nationwide,
>anonymous tips may be reported at 1-866-DHS-2ICE (1-866-347-2423).
>
Subject: John Leigh has no place in SLPP
From: Momo Swaray
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Date Posted: 11:24:17 04/15/07 ()
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John, we don't want you in the SLPP because you will drive away our supporters with your undiplomatic utterances. Your attacks on PMDC Charles Margai and APC Ernest Koroma lack any substance. You think you can help your party win with the immature way you comport yourself here ? We don't want you at SLPP .You are bad news.
Subject: Re: John Leigh has no place in SLPP
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 12:30:13 04/15/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Mr. Momo Swaray:
You have no say in SLPP. You are of the kind that makes baseless accusations lacking in specificity. Further, if you wish to debate, you ought to learn to speak the truth.
You think general elections are a child's play. A junior tribalist like you belongs to a remedial dunce party full of tombo-dumbo foolumunku dombolos.
This is my last correspondence with you in this matter. Thank you and Goodbye. - JL
Subject: Re: John Leigh has no place in SLPP
From: Winston A. Kabia aka Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 16:55:42 04/15/07 ()
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Mr. Leigh, if you listen to the voice of reason - you will be able to contribute meaningfully in the nation building. As of now, I implore you to stay cool and tactful. Desist from verbal altercations with forumites. It will do no good to you. The voice of reason will help!!!
Subject: Re: John Leigh has no place in SLPP
From: Momo Swaray
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Date Posted: 14:20:32 04/15/07 ()
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John, that is all we have seen from you when there are important issues: your back .So you think I will be surprised if you don't engage me ? I know for a fact that most of us in the party don't appreciate what you say hence they create bad feeeling for SLPP. If you love the party, go to the field to campaign.Dont sit in America just making big talk and looking down on others. We true SLPP dont call people san san boys, flunkies , fulumunkus because we know that everybody is important to the country.You are just bad news, John. Please grow up, dawg.
Subject: Re: John Leigh has no place in SLPP
From: Bangso
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Date Posted: 15:20:29 04/15/07 ()
Email Address: baol@aol.com
Entered From: 80-47-105-184.lond-hex.dynamic.dial.as9105.com at 80.47.105.184
Message:
How do you expect him to campaign on the field....he has no support. Dont forget he lost his deposit.....hehehehehe
He will grow old, but never grow up
Subject: Re: SENGBE THE COWARD
From: Sengbe Watcher
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Date Posted: 14:34:41 04/15/07 ()
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Please grow up, dawg
Sengbe we are watching you many manifestations.
Subject: Re: SENGBE THE COWARD
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 15:54:26 04/15/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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I think some dombolo is upset with the posting below:
Posted by John E. Leigh on April 15, 2007 at 10:38:34:
In Reply to: Re: APC'S PEACE MARCH - THE FACTS posted by Mohamed A. Kamara on April 14, 2007 at 23:08:09:
Mr. Mohamed A. Kamara:
I share your concerns and your attitude. Our corrupt culture is at the heart of our own suffering and backwardness.
Our ancestors are the ones who went about marginalizing and capturing our own people, chaining & transporting them to sea ports and selling them as slaves to develop the white man's countries and enriched the then slave trading white nations such as England, France, Denmark, Holland, Spain and Portugal, etc.
Meanwhile, we riotously squandered all the proceeds from the sales of our own people in Ekutay-style frolics and ahwoojoh surfeits over four centuries. White nations have something positive to show for their centuries of slave trading and slavery. But us, we have grinding poverty and backwardness.
And it was the white nations that stopped the hideous trade in spite of its profitability while the blacks sought to continue to exploit their people to continue their frolicking. Suppressing the terrible trade required the presence of the British Navy in Freetown from 1808 to 1863 in order to quarantine the West Coast and thus terminate trade.
Yet some of us today have yet to learn the real lessons from this our despicable history.
The RUF plunder of Sierra Leone was a modern-day replication of the old slave trade but instead of humans, they took resources by marginalizing the people through violence, thievery, double-cross, backstabbing, lies, etc.; sold those plundered resources to whites for cheap and squandered the proceeds.
Again, whites gained but we have very little to show for our miseries except destruction and human violations!
Regarding addressing the disadvantaged youth issue, please be assured that the reform wing of the SLPP has submitted proposals to the new SLPP leadership to help tackle this pressing problem.
My own thinking about the future of SLeone is simple: we all must advance together or suffer together. We can't marginalize people and spread poverty nationwide then expect to enjoy indefinitely.
Lying, double-crossing, defrauding, deceit, deception, duplicity, marginalization, poverty-spreading and degradation will in time only produce disasters for us all. We must stop such despicable behavior. Thank you. -JL
Subject: Re: SENGBE THE COWARD
From: Patrick Komba
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Date Posted: 21:28:23 04/15/07 ()
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My own thinking about the future of SLeone is simple: we all must advance together or suffer together. We can't marginalize people and spread poverty nationwide then expect to enjoy indefinitely. says John Leigh
John Leigh, why do you constantly out of both sides of your bucal cavity? your slpp has been marginalizing saloneans foe the past ten years. Your new master, Berewa, just like your former master, Kabbah, has been spreading poverty for the past 5 years. You even called him a crooked politician at the crooked slpp coinbention in which you were disgraced.
Despite all of that, you came her with your two-mot penknife to eat your words and lick your spit by telling us that Berewa the crook is the new savior of salone. A question I have for you Leigh: Are you a political prostitute?
Subject: Re: SENGBE THE COWARD
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 02:21:09 04/16/07 ()
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Here comes an APC/PMDC guy using a new handle. He/she must be someone John Leigh trashed sometime ago. Now all he/she can do is CUSS CUSS & ALLA ALLA....
BO PATRICK KOMBA OR PATRICK KUMBA come up with something else before we dismiss you as another TORTORGBEH PMDC/APC BATOLINER.....
Subject: Re: SENGBE THE COWARD
From: JohnE. Leigh
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Date Posted: 22:17:16 04/15/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Mr. Patrick Komba:
You need a lesson in English comprehension. Further, if you were less emotional, you would realize that I am consistent in politics as follows:
1. I support the candidate who in my opinion is the most superior among the lot even if he is not perfect and even if he is part of an administration I have criticized.
2. I provide facts for voter education.
3. I never serve under someone with inferior credentials of achievements no matter how big his tribe.
4. I will not criticize my party's Government within 12 months to and after elections but the remaining three years is open season for criticisms from me.
5. I criticize to seek intra-party reforms, not to cut and run and join a fooolumunku group that is deperate for an association with me. Somebody like Margai is my intellectual inferior.
6. I hold no hatred towards anyone.
7. I will not debate with certain people who are using chicken handles to insult and be rude or whose comprehension is substandard or who is inarticulate and quick to resort to insults and rudeness, etc.
8. Etc.
Not everybody will understand the above politics, especially if a dombolo alphabet politician is their hero or are substandard in comprehension.
As for the Makeni Conbention, who was disgraced? The crooks or the clean players? If you call it a conbention, why would you credit an event you call crooked for disgracing a straight forward participant? You can't have it both ways.
At anyrate, your lack of the ability to assess the true meaning of events means you will continue to
be part of a foolumunku flunkey group of dumbos for years and years to come. You need to strive to gain wisdom.
Moreover, I never told you that Berewa is the savior of the nation as you credit me as saying. I will never say that.
What I put in writing is that VP Berewa is a superior presidential candidate than Koroma and Margai.
Further, I have not eaten any of my words, nor licked my spit as you graphically put it. I am still pressing forward with the stances I have staked out previously but I prefer to do so within the SLPP than do it in a dunce group of aphabet tombo-dumbos dombolos. What is wrong with such?
Obviously, I belong to only one party. Political prostitutes need alphabet around their necks such as PNP, APC, NUP, PMDC and whatever comes next. Me, I belonng only to the SLPP.
You think because I criticized someone, I should abandon him and jump into another bed? Is that your idea of politics? Isn't that prostitution?
Your ideas are way out of line. Your disappointment in my refusal to join your idiot group is palpable. So, I now say goodbye. Your are a low grade small boy lacking in sense. You talk rubbish. Thank you very much. - JL
Subject: Re: SENGBE THE COWARD
From: Patrick Komba
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Date Posted: 05:03:49 04/16/07 ()
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You think because I criticized someone, I should abandon him and jump into another bed? Is that your idea of politics? Isn't that prostitution? -- John Leigh
John Leigh, your words give me the evidence that you did not understand what I wrote. It is a comprehension problem you share with most of your fellow blind SLPP hengdandae supporters like the chicken-handle coward independent man.
When I said you are a political prostitute that does not mean you jump from one man's bed to another just because you criticized the first man. That is your rubbish understanding by which you make the world know that you are the one that suffers from English incomprehension, not me.
For your information what makes a man a political prostitute is he hops from one man's bed to another for no other reason but money, not criticism. For that reason you are a koro political prostitute. You hopped from your former master, President Kabbah's bed because he could no longer continue to pay you for your past services to him by keeping you as a bribe-for-your-appointment ambassador to the USA.
Now, like a money-nar-han-back-nar-gron political prostitute, you have hopped from Kabbah's dirty bed to your new master, Berewa's dirtier bed, not because you had criticized him for his corruption, but because you desperately want to recover your bribe money to Kabbah's SLPP from Berewa's SLPP. Selling yourself to every John (actually, two johns) is what makes you a political prostitute, John Leigh.
As for your understand-nothing nonsense argument that you can not be a prostitute because you did not jump from the SLPP to another party, ask yourself one question, John Leigh, if it was not the SLPP who took your bribes in exchange for ministerial appointment if they won the 1996 elections? You have admitted paying them many times, even though they only managed you with ambassador appointment. Are you going to go to the APC or PMDC to try to recover your bribe-money's investment in the SLPP?
Of course not, even you John Leigh are not that stupid. That is why you hop from one man's SLPP bed (Kabbah) to the next man's SLPP bed (Berewa), even though you have dismissed both men as corrupt politicians.
That is what makes you a political prostitute, John Leigh, the same as a money-nar-han-back-nar-gron prostitute at the ghetto in kroo bay in Freetown that is one of the many filthy accomplishments of your good-for-nothing SLPP hengandae party of political prostitutes. Now you know.
Subject: SIERRA LEONE IS SUCH A PEACEFUL PLACE!!!!!
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 10:13:59 04/15/07 ()
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On Saturday 4/14, the APC had a peaceful and sucessful match in Central Freetown. At the same time, the SLPP had a sucessful program in Western Freetown. That these two events were conducted very peacefully shows the achievement of the current government and the populace at large. The current government has put in place an environment free of intimidation and an environment where people can express their opinions without fear of attack, retaliation/reprisals. Ernest Koroma was provided with police escorts throughout the APC event. That such freedom can exist in Sa Lone today speaks volumes about the SLPP. Say what you want about their competence, but you must admit that they are upholding people's freedom of association, and allowing dissent/opposition to prosper.
Can you imagine an opposition party marching through central Freetown during the days of Stevens or Momoh? The leaders of such a march would have ended up at Pademba road after enduring brutal beatings. An opposition party was not even allowed. Those of us who grew up under the APC were denied so many things, and that is why we do not trust the APC .... new or old. They believe in intimidation and violence. They do not believe in dissent, whatever they tell us now....MONKEY NOR DAE LEF IN BLACK HAND
Subject: Re: SIERRA LEONE IS SUCH A PEACEFUL PLACE!!!!!
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 11:00:33 04/15/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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I-MAN, how can any one ever trust the so-called NEW APC when they are relpicating the same old tactics of lying to fool the public?
They have no unity! They won nothing new! Yet they are celebrating with Raray Reds to lie to the public, to fool the public that they have won unity.
When you take the people for fools, you will be eventually done away with. Margai tried to take his own people and Fullahs for fools, and what do we have? An irrepairable impulsion!
The so-called New APC is nothing but the same old APC of KDDA marginalizers, frolicking Ekutay poverty spreaders and lie-lie hegemonistic tribalists. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: SIERRA LEONE IS SUCH A PEACEFUL PLACE!!!!!
From: Saidu Daphay Turay
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Date Posted: 14:23:48 04/15/07 ()
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I wonder if you were the leader of the SLPP if such a peaceful match would have taken place in Sierra Leone. Knowing how boisterous, presumptious and controversial you are, you would have ordered your elite death squad-which your depicts your nature, to have squashed any opposition or sent confusionists to disrupt the civilized people who you termed "raray boys." If a man of your calibre start stigmatizing the underprivileged which the so-called SLLP party you claim to belong help to nuture, then which hope does the downtrodden in Sierra Leone have, if you are given a position of trust? God forbid!! Your big mouth, uncontrollable invectives and political immaturity will stay in your imaginary trumpet land. The two emerging and promising leaders of Sierra Leone - Ernest Koroma and Charles Margai are too mature and honest to make fool of Sierra Leoneans at this time when even an unschooled child in the country knows reality of a bleeding and dejected country which the SLPP has contributed immensely in destroying through power greed and undemocratic schemes. The SLPP had no options to disrupt or thwart the peaceful match because the world has become a global village where dictators and corrupt leaders have no safe have to carryout clandestine activities against innocent people. cases in point-the culture of impunity carried out by Charles Taylor, Foday Sankoh, Johnny Paul Koroma and the late Hinga Norman are signals that you Mr. Leigh should take into consideration that even the people your termed "rarayred," will question the legality of your unfounded utterances in a new competent court of law not the kangaroo judicial system existing in the present SLPP government.
Subject: Re: SIERRA LEONE IS SUCH A PEACEFUL PLACE!!!!!
From: APC
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Date Posted: 15:30:08 04/15/07 ()
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If the APC was in power, would you have allowed such a peaceful march? The answer is a BIG FAT NO.
That shows how tolerant and Democratic the SLPP government has made the country.
Subject: Re: SIERRA LEONE IS SUCH A PEACEFUL PLACE!!!!!
From: KAFFIR DETECTOR
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Date Posted: 19:23:48 04/15/07 ()
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SHUT UP YOU DAMN KAFFIR
Subject: Re: SIERRA LEONE IS SUCH A PEACEFUL PLACE!!!!!
From: APC
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Date Posted: 22:32:23 04/15/07 ()
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Message:
We need to give credit where credit is due...Ar nor care watin you say... me daddy nor tiff salone money lek you ...
Subject: Re: SIERRA LEONE IS SUCH A PEACEFUL PLACE!!!!!
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 10:56:42 04/15/07 ()
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Message:
Chances are these peaceful events could not have taken place if the RUF had not done what they did.
Subject: Re: SIERRA LEONE IS SUCH A PEACEFUL PLACE!!!!!
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 22:57:32 04/15/07 ()
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King Loggy,
Could you please explain further what you mean by your statement? Are you saying that the kind of violence people saw during the RUF/rebel war has made us more peaceful or more correctly completely turned-off by violence? Or does your statement have a broader meaning/implication?
Thanks in advance
I-Man
Subject: Re: SIERRA LEONE IS SUCH A PEACEFUL PLACE!!!!!
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 03:34:29 04/16/07 ()
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All of the above and more.
It is my opinion that the current SLPP Government, and successive governments, is going to be operating from foreign "handouts". And to keep those "handouts" coming, they must exercise some form of democracy.
The rebel war was indeed publicized extensively; publicized to the extent that Sierra Leone is at the focal point of the international radar for any civil disturbance.
The Special Court, the last time I check, has yet to fold it tents. There are rumors that some current government officials, President not excluded, might just be prosecuted if and when they get out of office. Good behavior at this time might just help.
There's a musician who goes by the name of Emerson who is politically active in his lyrics; and the word "AWARENESS" is now in the vocabulary of almost every Sierra Leonean.
I guess these factors can influence the behavior of this government and others to come.
Subject: FLASHBACK
From: KING LOGGGY
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Date Posted: 01:37:00 04/15/07 ()
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Subject: HOW DO YOU SOX THE POYO?
From: MOHAMED SOX SESAY
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Date Posted: 00:37:15 04/15/07 ()
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Subject: John Ernest Leigh lied to us : Check COCORIOKO pictures
From: Kanforie Sorie Koroma
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Date Posted: 20:20:14 04/14/07 ()
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Message:
If you look at the pictures of the parade provided us by Cocorioko, you can see that the big man is a liar. Just look at the report and pictures especially .
Subject: Re: John Ernest Leigh lied to us : Check COCORIOKO pictures
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 09:23:20 04/15/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Mr. Kanforie Sorie Koroma:
What specifically are we to look for in the pictures provided by Cocorioko?
Where or what is your proof that you relied on to accuse someone as a liar in this matter?
Please help us understand your point of view by giving us the proofs you have or just give us plain examples to back up your claims. Thank you.
As you know, my argument is that claims of unity or victory by the Koroma APC group are not true because the opposing faction has not joined the Koroma group in confirming those claims or in the public celebrations?
Are pictures of Serry, Turay, Bangura, etc. with Koroma and Co. in the Cocorioko pictures you referred us to? Please help.
Please note that as far as I am concerned, the red raray boys' matter is not an important issue in addressing the APC unity/disunity matter.
The relevant issues in the APC saga are as follows:
1. Is there genuine unity within the APC ranks today as claimed by the Koroma faction?
2. Does the decision by the PPRC Chairman to wash his hands off the APC dispute represent a victory by the Koroma faction?
After you've answered the above questions, please write
out what you consider the lie from me or from some other individual debating in this postings. Thank you very much. - JL
Subject: Re: John Ernest Leigh lied to us : Check COCORIOKO pictures
From: Kanforie Sorie Koroma
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Date Posted: 11:27:30 04/15/07 ()
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Message:
All the leaders you said that do not attened the program attend so what are you but a liar.
Subject: Re: John Ernest Leigh lied to us : Check COCORIOKO pictures
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 12:37:01 04/15/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Mr. Kanforie Sorie Koroma:
Where is the evidence? I was unable to ID them on the Cocorioko pictures you referred me to last time I looked. I will recheck and if I locate them I'll get back to you.
Meantime, please help with the evidence. Maybe you are the one deliberately not telling the truth. -JL
Subject: Re: John Ernest Leigh lied to us : Check COCORIOKO pictures
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 12:33:25 04/15/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Mr. Kanforie Sorie Koroma:
Where is the evidence. I have not been able to ID them in the Cocorioko pictures last time I looked. I'll look again but meanwhile please help with the evidence. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: John Ernest Leigh lied to us : Check COCORIOKO pictures
From: Observer
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Date Posted: 21:37:07 04/15/07 ()
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Is that you Flip-flop Leigh asking Mr. Jalloh's favourite question "Where is the evidence."?
I swear you have become a good student after flunking the man's tests before. To me, you should say thank you to Mr. Jalloh for showing you patience when you were rebeling against his teachings and making rudeness.
Subject: Re: John Ernest Leigh lied to us : Check COCORIOKO pictures
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 22:22:39 04/15/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Message:
You are a real moron using various handles all over the place to talk rubbish. Imported soft drink flunkies can hardly teach anyone anything good. Goodbye and keep on using other handles. You might get lucky again. - JL
Subject: Re: John Ernest Leigh lied to us : Check COCORIOKO pictures
From: Observer
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Date Posted: 05:22:44 04/16/07 ()
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Imported soft drink flunkies can hardly teach anyone anything good.
Ah, Leigh, that is why my man was able to teach you a lot of good, isn't it? Becos he is not a flunky! I see you did not learn yet how to reason properly, ungrateful Leigh.
Subject: Re: John Ernest Leigh lied to us : Check COCORIOKO pictures
From: charles
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Date Posted: 23:48:15 04/14/07 ()
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Bo pa blow.. you go get hypertension. Nar de same people dem nar different picture. look good en see.
By the way look the SLPP small thing wae we do nar western freetown.
Subject: Re: John Ernest Leigh lied to us : Check COCORIOKO pictures
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 04:14:11 04/15/07 ()
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Aberdeen is probably fresh, no garbage to pick up there, and so deserving of a Queen (not for the Last King of Scotland though).
Freetown, that’s another thing - one more "small thing wae una do nar western freetown."?
But perhaps Berewa, as commander-in-chief -to-be- has organised his taking of Freetown with an assault starting from the outskirts, rounding up those sleepy villagers in green, those who keep their vegetable gardens clean, in those sleepy villages. Of course General Berewa probably has more of a say-so than Charles Francis Margai in the execution of his own campaign plans. Would someone like Karmor Kabba dare contradict him on such a vital details? In the end – perhaps after a long discussion, the Pa (Pa Berewa) gets his own way as Karamoh succumbs to the reason of commonsense and experience. The Catholic Church says that obedience is the first law in heaven, so the lieutenants salute and obey, as Admiral Berewa starts to capture Freetown from the APC, as the professor would laugh, haaaa – ha ha hahaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, Berewa taking Garbage town not from Waterloo or Hastings, but with his “SLPP small thing wae we do nar western freetown from Aberdeen” .......good luck to him and to both of you, you started at Hill Station and you will probably end up there.
Subject: Re: John Ernest Leigh lied to us : Check COCORIOKO pictures
From: charles
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Date Posted: 10:00:24 04/15/07 ()
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Bra our strategy is working. we do not have to take pictures of the same Trailer from different angles to show how crowded the occassion was.
Subject: Re: John Ernest Leigh lied to us : Check COCORIOKO pictures
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 05:04:43 04/15/07 ()
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I don’t know, but nowadays, every time that I see, think, or hear the name Charles Margai, I think of Apata and the 1967 Elections, and I get so angry.
Apata means “the rock”.
Is Charles a chip off the old block?
Sengbe, note, I wrote APATA, not AKATA…..hmmm
Hans Zell Publishing
http://www.hanszell.co.uk/google/
Hans Zell, do you remember him, he was the bookshop manager at FBC.
Subject: Re: John Ernest Leigh lied to us : Check COCORIOKO pictures
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 03:43:34 04/15/07 ()
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The opposition laments that they are/were fragmented, could not present a clear alternative to what Yahya was coming up with, and is still crying that a house divided usually falls.
In any case there were no reports like this:
http://www.tribune.com.ng/15042007/news/news1.html
It's not only in the Gambia that the opposition is crying and you may throw more light on this, if you so please......
Aberdeen is probably fresh, no garbage to pick up there, and so deserving of a Queen (not for the Last King of Scotland though).
Freetown, that’s another thing - one more "small thing wae una do nar western freetown."
But perhaps Berewa, as commander-in-chief -to-be- has organised his taking of Freetown out the outskirts, rounding up those sleepy villagers in green, those who keep their vegetable gardens clean, in those sleepy villages. General Berewa who probably has more of a say so than Charles Francis Margai in the execution of his own campaign plans. So the man starts to take Freetown from the APC, as the professor would laugh, haaaa –haaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha heeeeeeeeeeeeeee, not from Waterloo or Hastings, but with his “SLPP small thing wae we do nar western freetown from Aberdeen” .......good luck to him and to both of you, you started at Hill Station, see you in there…..
Subject: Violence and Fraud mar Nigerian Elections
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 19:16:36 04/14/07 ()
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Our most populous African democracy
Subject: AGREEMENT IN OPPOSITION (PMDC vs SLPP)
From: Jehpehlondo
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Date Posted: 18:01:38 04/14/07 ()
Email Address: jadalie@sierratel.sl
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I always hear people say PMDC members are disgruntled SLPP. Could someone kindly me on this forum where opposition has risen out of consensus, where A and B had met and agreed that B should be his opponent. To me this assertion that PMDC are disgruntled and therefore are no different from SLPP failed caboodle is utter rubbish. Find something else to say.
Subject: Re: AGREEMENT IN OPPOSITION (PMDC vs SLPP)
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 19:26:23 04/14/07 ()
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Is it ever safe to say disgruntlement is a political reality not only between members of political parties, but the general population as well?
Subject: STOP USING A HANDLE THAT IS SIMILAR TO OUR FRIEND'S
From: STOP! STOP! STOP!
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Date Posted: 18:51:49 04/14/07 ()
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You have been told that the handle you are using is similar to one that belongs to a valuable forumite - K. Jeppeh Londoh. Why don't you post under a different handle?
Subject: Shameless Mr. Ernest Leigh
From: Kanforie Sorie Koroma
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Date Posted: 13:46:26 04/14/07 ()
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You are shameless. Who told you APC is not going to win ? Why do you refere to APC as raray boys ? Have you forgotten that the RUF was formed initially by the SLPP ? Have you forgotten that the thuggish Kamajors were SLPP ? HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN THAT THE VIGILANTES OF 1997 were SLPP?
I am going to make life difficult for you on this forum. You shameless man.
Subject: Re: Shameless Mr. Ernest Leigh
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 16:37:33 04/14/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Mr. Kanforie Sorie Koroma:
I apologize if I left you with the impression that the report in the e-mail I posted was mine. It was not mine. The e-mail came from Freetown. Someone I know and who observed the APC Parade sent it to me. So, please take it easy.
Having said this, please hear my own rebuttal to the allegations in your postings. Let's assume that the "No APC win" and the "raray boys" opinions in the said e-mail were mine for the limited purpose of this debate.
Finally, no one needs to tell me which party is going to win the July 28, 2007 elections. I can figure out that myself.
1. "You are shameless".-Kanforie Sorie Koroma
What is shameless about accurately reporting what an eyewitness himself observed in a matter that is of public interest at home and abroad? There is absolutely nothing shameful or shameless about saying APC will not win. Haven't APC not lost at least three elections? Isn't loosing elections part of APC's history? Siaka Stevens himself lost his first APC election before finally gaining power via a coup in 1967.
As for low grade "raray boys", these are plentiful in Sierra Leone and pointing them out is the correct thing to do when you see them in political parades. Those raray boys generally refuse to register to vote but specialize in noisemaking, some violence and some of them attend public events to also consume, gratis, more than their share of food and drinks because they are poor and mostly unemployed. Most are school drop outs.
Even so, they have little or no interest in the real essence of the particular public event they join in.
I really do not understand where you are coming from with this your "shameless" business.
2. "Have you forgotten that the RUF was formed initially by the SLPP?" - Kanforie Sorie Koroma
I have NOT forgotten any such event because such never happened. Again, I was never aware that the RUF was initially formed by the SLPP. As you may be aware, SLPP was defunct - not in existence - at the time the RUF was formed. We had a One-Party, One-Manic state then, set up by Mr. Stevens. The RUF was reportedly formed by college students. Anyway, I stand to be educated on this matter. But let's face it, nothing is shameless on my part even if the SLPP had set up the RUF.
3. "Have you forgotten that the thuggish Kamajors were SLPP?" - Kanforie Sorie Koroma
The Kamajors were not thuggish. They did an excellent job protecting their home villages, organizing other home-based defenders and helping ECOMOG and the elected government put that brutal foot of state criminal, Johnny Paul, where he truly belongs - on the run in the bush from capital offences. Again, let's face it, nothing is shameless on my part even if the Kamajors were thuggish.
The kamajors were trend setters in civil defence in a country rendered unstable by tribalistic hegemonistic tendencies.
4. "HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN THAT THE VIGILANTES OF 1997 were SLPP?" - Kanforie Sorie Koroma
I was never aware of any vigilantes in 1997. And even if there were vigilantes in 1997, such can never amount to shamelessness on my part.
Man, I am really confused about this your "shameless" business. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: Shameless Mr. Ernest Leigh
From: Cee Bah
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Date Posted: 17:47:38 04/14/07 ()
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Why are you guys fighting over who formed RUF, who is a raray boy and all those unimportant things.
Look mr Koroma, we crossed the era of finger pointing a long time ago and you must be very much in your head to think that you can through the use of obscenity make life difficult for anyone on this forum.
If you want to know who, or what caused the war, you should check the report of the TRC. As a matter of fact, the war we all know was borne out of the selfish and unprincipled behaviour of all of you old guys who through years of political mismanagement(inititated by the Alber Margai led SLPP and blown out of proportion by the APC Stevens) that led to the war.
As Sierra Leoneans, let's discuss what should get us out of this debris that we currently find ourselves, not fight over who brought us there.
Finally, who is going to win the elections? Well I am sure that you don't need to have gone to Harvard to know that the APC, after their new found peace, are gaining momentum, whilst the PMDC is trying to pick up their bones from the running mate issue. The SLPP's chances, I believe can not be overstated now until they resolve what seems to be the apparent fallout that would emerge from their own running mate fiasco.
Running mates, they seem to have just grown important in this election!
Having said that, I believe that we still have a long way to go and it is yet too close to call!
WHo agrees?
Subject: Re: Shameless Mr. Ernest Leigh
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 14:19:32 04/15/07 ()
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let's discuss what should get us out of this debris that we currently find ourselves, not fight over who brought us there
as my man would say BADA BING BADA BANG. You are right on point my friend
Subject: Re: Shameless Mr. Ernest Leigh
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 07:09:18 04/15/07 ()
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Hon. Prince Charles should just put in a guest appearance in Cocorioko, tell his detractors off roundly and then clear out.
Subject: Re: Shameless Mr. Ernest Leigh
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 07:13:43 04/15/07 ()
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Yes, the Hon.Charles should just put in a guest appearance in Cocorioko, tell his detractors off squarely and then clear out.
The problem is that his bingbing will not stoop so low.
Subject: Re: Shameless Mr. Ernest Leigh
From: Amputee
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Date Posted: 14:29:24 04/14/07 ()
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Remember, at this forum debates are centered around issues not individuals.
Your saying that you'll to make life difficult for anyone sounds like an harrassment and must not be overlooked by the proprietors.
Such intentions, if carried out, may back fire when you find yourself weeded out of this circle. We are here to debate and not harrass.
Subject: APC'S PEACE MARCH - THE FACTS
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 12:20:34 04/14/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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The e-mail below has just come in from Freetown.
"Dear JL,
The APC is doing their peace match but with ML Bangura absent. In fact, I didn’t see the other faction and only Ernest Koroma, John Yambasu and co. on-top of a trailer. There were a lot of these raray boys in red misbehaving as usual. They have been told boldly that they don't stand a chance in the forthcoming elections but the leaders must pretend as if something is happening or else their livelihood will be threatened.
All the best.
XXXXXXXX"
Subject: Re: APC'S PEACE MARCH - THE FACTS
From: Cee Bah
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Date Posted: 18:02:09 04/14/07 ()
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Gentlemen,
I don't think whether the people who showed up at the APC rally were raray boys or not would matter in the polls. Election is a game of numbers. the APC would rather have 10,000 raray boys than 1000 professors!
The fact that you are all ignoring is that Freetwon is currently an APC stronghold(the local council elections showed that clearly) and, I am sorry to say, those that you are refering to as raray boys are in the majority in the city. How many young men and women do we really have that will not fit into your category of "raray boys"? These are the abandoned, victimized, and excluded youths? They represent the failure of our country and our system?
It is sad that time and again, these "raray boys" are induced with drug and used as political thugs by all parties. I think we must stop such labellings and constructively address the issues that concern these youths in our country.
Historically, and I stand to corrected, here, the APC has appealed to these set of people. The APC has practiced "grassroot politics" over the years building a solid support base among trade unions, interest groups etc. If you write their massive rally off as full of raray boys, you might be in for a shock. This might give them the boost they have so badly needed.
Having said these, do they really have genuine and the requisite peace. By the requisite peace, I mean getting the people that really matter in the boat. It is almost impossible for all the aggrieved persons to be appeased. But if they get the main stakeholders in, they might be in for a ride that can onlybe good for our young democracy.
Subject: Re: APC'S PEACE MARCH - THE FACTS
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 12:43:58 04/15/07 ()
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Cee Bah,
You make a good point that having 10,000 raray boys is better than having 1,000 professionals. What you are forgetting though is that so-called "raray boys" are never really in anybody's camp. They go where the goodies are. If you give them food, they will eat it. If you give them money, they will chop it. If there is a march and you give them free tee-shirts, they will wear them and dance in your parade. All these things do not mean they are in your camp. If SLPP or PMDC were to make a march in the next few weeks or anytime for that matter, the same "raray man dem" will show up in those party colors. So no party should really assume that these guys are them solidly in their camp, simply because they show up at the party's events.
Mind you, I am not saying that the party should not go after their votes!!!
Subject: Re: APC'S PEACE MARCH - THE FACTS
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 21:59:48 04/14/07 ()
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Let us also hope that our raray boys who are usually of no fixed abode are registered to turn out in large numbers to cast their votes.
Unregistered raryboys cannot vote.
Can you point out those who are registered and entitled to vote, when you see the big crowds at political rallies?
Subject: Re: APC'S PEACE MARCH - THE FACTS
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 21:33:31 04/14/07 ()
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"....raray boys are in the majority in the city. "
Perhaps because of the SLPP-created garbage?
Sengbe, where are you ?
Subject: Re: APC'S PEACE MARCH - THE FACTS
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
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Date Posted: 17:35:51 04/14/07 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
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I am very pleased to see all the warring fractions in the APC come together because when we (SLPP)win the elections they(APC)will not manufacture any excuse. I know that most of the people in the APC are not genuine,they are only playing games among themselves.No well meaning person should treat them with any seriousness.
Subject: Re: APC'S PEACE MARCH - THE FACTS
From: WAA
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Date Posted: 14:47:07 04/15/07 ()
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WAA is that you have been kicked out of the place that you were katching in maryland bvecause you refuse to work and are very dependent on others to feed your red lips while you stayed home and talked about them on the phone. WAA is that you were caught in one of your acts of Kongosah by phone and kicked out. Yoiu have zero credibility, you are scum of the earth and dont have mama blessings. You bastard child
Subject: Re: APC'S PEACE MARCH - THE FACTS
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 09:47:22 04/15/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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"I am very pleased to see all the warring fractions in the APC come together..." - ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA.
Mr. Bangura, all the APC warring factions are YET to come together.
The APC is still disunited but the insider group is apparently lying to the public that unity has been achieved. It has NOT at this moment.
Only a genuine statement(s) from Honorables Eddie Turay and Kamal Serry, backed by their joint appearance with Ernest Koroma & CO. will supply the necessary proof of APC unity.
Politicians should stop lying to the public. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: APC'S PEACE MARCH - THE FACTS
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 16:35:02 04/14/07 ()
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John,
I just called Freetown to talk to an APC supporter. Here are the first words out of her mouth:
De parade full with so so rayray man dem. Den old rayray man den all show up dae. Den block traffic all over de town. All in all, at least APC day feel good about den sef now.
With regards to whether Serry Kamal or Eddie Turay showed up, she said she did not know that.
I-Man
Subject: Re: APC'S PEACE MARCH - THE FACTS
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 16:47:06 04/14/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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I-MAN:
Appreciate your independent confirmation. My e-mail came from a highly responsible individual who has proven very reliable over many years. Thanks again.
I will now be watching for any raray-man influence in the election campaign tactics of each party.
I am the first to admit that civilization is a very slow and painstaking process. But as a wise one once said, eternal vigilance is the price for freedom. Take care. -JL
Subject: Re: APC'S PEACE MARCH - THE FACTS
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 12:35:14 04/14/07 ()
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They have been told boldly that they don't stand a chance in the forthcoming elections.
Could this be referred to as the arrogance of the Incumbency?
Subject: Re: APC'S PEACE MARCH - THE FACTS
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 12:44:08 04/14/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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No, Al. Those giving the advice are said to be independent swing voters that APC, SLPP and the PMDC are wooing. Some of those people are hoping to see the Ernest Koroma group reach out to the Serry-Turay-Bangura 30% group as a badly needed proof of his leadership negotiating skills.
Will democratic principles triumph over tribalistic hegemonistic stubbornness for the sake of SLeone?
Subject: Re: APC'S PEACE MARCH - THE FACTS
From: Fact
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Date Posted: 13:19:34 04/14/07 ()
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Eddie Turay (Loko) is now back with Ernest. Adikali Kamara (Susu) and M.L. Bangura (Mandingo) and Serry-Kamal(Themneh) are still rebelling but they wil soon stop. There is no inter-ethnic war, just a few individuals rebelling. Only Eddie Turay among them is known nationwide. The others are only known in Freetown and their home towns or villages.
Subject: Re: APC'S PEACE MARCH - THE FACTS
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 13:45:43 04/14/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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FACT, I very appreciate the correction. Thank you very much.
However, my take on the matter is that Mr. Eddie Turay is not with Mr. Koroma at all.
If you may recall, it was Mr. Turay who was first aggrieved by Mr. Koroma's decision to take the parliamentary opposition leader position from him. Mr. Turay sued. The Supreme Court ruled that the APC Constitution was forged to permit Mr. Koroma to usurped Mr. Turay's opposition leader position despite the pre-2002 agreement giving Mr. Koroma the presidential nomination and Mr. Turay the parliamentary leader position.
The PPRC now says it cannot interfere with the Supreme Court decision and wants the party to continue negotiating without interference.
Was Mr. Turay at the APC Parade in Freetown earlier today? If so, then it is a sure sign that genuine peace is in the works. If not .................
Again, I appreciate your correction and stand ready to be further educated. Thank you. -JL
Subject: Re: APC'S PEACE MARCH - THE FACTS
From: charles
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Date Posted: 12:26:44 04/14/07 ()
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Message:
Bra leigh
the APC has ninety-nine tactics and the above is one...
Subject: Re: APC'S PEACE MARCH - THE FACTS
From: Mohamed A. Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 23:08:09 04/14/07 ()
Email Address: Saghinosoccerworld@yahoo.com
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Message:
Interesting choice of words Charles. I told my late father ( an APC founder member) in 1977, that the bottom of the party's bucket would drop off. He replied that, APC had a hundred ways of running the country. In a decade they had only used one way. He died in '99. He saw the chaos which engulfed our nation before he passed on.
I am hearing all the brouahah about the upcoming circus, which unfortunately will be considered as general elections. There is always the concept that Sierra leoneans have the knack for being smart. And our homeland housing the Fourah Bay College, which has among its alumni prominent individuals (including current or former government officials) in other african societies, at a glance gives credence to that thought. But our nation's socio-political realities, have painted us a rather tragic picture.
In my humble opinion, I see our society as an enclave, populated by groups of people who shear a common traight for being self-destructive, which complements the cancerous mindset of putting personal interests, matters of the tribal or political sect, above the maintenance of the the state. The same generic karma, which fostered internal strifes, slavery; an in turn presented economic opportunities for europeans to buy our ancestors as slaves (sold by other africans I might add).
When one takes a look at the country's post colonial phases of its history, it makes you wonder if the english knew that we do have what it takes to implement effective self governance. Probably why no cannons were fired at us, when our so called pioneers for independence, chastised them for self rule.
To those of us who detest our fellow citizens we consider as raray boys, I say remember that they did not just appeared out of the woodwork. The older individuals in their midst grew up from the disenfranchised youth population in the 70s and 80s. Now we have the current generation of youth, whom have lost their innocence, traumatised and also disenfranchised. I noticed most folks are quick to experess with passion how much they can't stomach their existence, but do not come up with ideas, about how to get, espacially the much younger ones, out of such a life. And encourage them to participate in educational, vocational and social programs. In order to help them become productive citizens in society.
If we do not grasp the concept of being our brothers and sisters' keepers, the price we will collectively pay as a nation down the road, will make the barbaric events of the 90s seem like a child's play. All the useless rhetoric from the APC and SLPP mouthpieces, and what's the name of the other clown party?.....PMDC does not help the situation one bit.
Subject: Re: APC'S PEACE MARCH - THE FACTS
From: Hateem
To: All
Date Posted: 15:40:47 04/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Well written piece,Mr.Kamara.I could not agree with you better.The masquerade is in July and three blind mice are aspiring for the position of chief rat.
Subject: Re: APC'S PEACE MARCH - THE FACTS
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 10:38:34 04/15/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Message:
Mr. Mohamed A. Kamara:
I share your concerns and your attitude. Our corrupt culture is at the heart of our own suffering and backwardness.
Our ancestors are the ones who went about marginalizing and capturing our own people, chaining & transporting them to sea ports and selling them as slaves to develop the white man's countries and enriched the then slave trading white nations such as England, France, Denmark, Holland, Spain and Portugal, etc.
Meanwhile, we riotously squandered all the proceeds from the sales of our own people in Ekutay-style frolicks and awoujoh surfiets over four centuries. White nations have something positive to show for their centuries of slave trading and slavery. But us, we have grinding poverty and backwardness.
And it was the white nations that stopped the hedious trade inspite of its profitability while the blacks sought to continue to exploit their people to continue their frolicking. Suppressing the terrible trade required the presence of the British Navy in Freetown from 1808 to 1863 in order to quarantine the West Coast and thus terminate trade.
Yet some of us today have yet to learn the real lessons from this our despicable history.
The RUF plunder of Sierra Leone was a modern-day replication of the old slave trade but instead of humans, they took resources by marginalizing the people through violence, thievery, double-cross, backstabbing, lies, etc.; sold those plundered resources to whites for cheap and squandered the proceeds.
Again, whites gained but we have very little to show for our miseries except destruction and human violations!
Regarding addressing the disadvantaged youth issue, please be assured that the reform wing of the SLPP has submitted proposals to the new SLPP leadership to help tackle this pressing problem.
My own thinking about the future of SLeone is simple: we all must advance together or suffer together. We can't marginalize people and spread poverty nationwide then expect to enjoy indefinitely.
Lying, double-crossing, defrauding, deceit, deception, duplicity, marginalization, poverty-spreading and degradation will in time only produce disasters for us all. We must stop such despicable behaviour. Thank you. -JL
Subject: COCORIOKO PUBLISHES PHOTOS OF APC MARCH
From: THE BEST
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Date Posted: 10:56:03 04/14/07 ()
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Cocorioko has published pictures of the APC Peace March presently going on.
www.cocorioko.net
Subject: Sankoh’s wife arrives for RUFP
From: concerned
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Date Posted: 10:05:05 04/14/07 ()
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This is from Awereness Times.."As elections approach, Fatou Sankoh, wife of the late Foday Sankoh, has reportedly arrived in Freetown to find ways and means of making the party viable for next elections. She, together with other members of the party, came to give financial backing to the party. They have gone to the party head office and have set a timetable to hold important meetings. The Secretary General of the Revolutionary United Front Party, Jonathan Kposowa, said the party would surely take part in both the parliamentary and presidential elections".
Do we still have a party called RUFP?
Subject: FOR CHIEF BOMBORLAI
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 19:48:13 04/13/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Chief B:
Could you please fill us in on your take on recent campaign developments in SLeone?
How do you view the way the PMDC running mate selection was handled?
How are Solo Berewa and Ernest Koroma doing in your estimation?
Thank you. -JL
Subject: PRESSURE MOUNTING ON WOLFOWITZ TO QUIT!!!!
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 16:15:31 04/13/07 ()
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Pressure is mounting on embattled World Bank President Paul Wolfowitz, struggling to retain his job amid a fast-growing controversy over his handling of a well-paying job transfer for a subordinate with whom he is romantically linked.
The bank's 24-member executive board issued a report Friday detailing the transfer of Shaha Ali Riza, a public relations employee in the bank's Middle East and Africa department and Wolfowitz's girlfriend, to a State Department foundation. The job shift, which came with a 31% pay hike over two years, came after Wolfowitz disclosed his relationship with Riza during negotiations over his five-year presidential term. Bank rules required that she be moved from her job to eliminate a potential conflict of interest.
Last month, The Washington Post quoted Kevin Kellems, Wolfowitz's spokesman, saying that "all arrangements concerning Shaha Riza were made at the direction of the bank's board of directors."
But after a review conducted by an ad hoc panel, the board concluded that Wolfowitz had dictated specific terms of Riza's employment in a memorandum to the bank's vice president for human resources without consulting the bank's ethics committee or general counsel. At her current tax-free salary of $193,590, Riza earns more than Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice.
"The Executive Directors will move expeditiously to reach a conclusion on possible actions to take. In their consideration of the matter the Executive Directors will focus on all relevant governance implications for the Bank," the board said.
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Wolfowitz apologized Thursday for a "mistake" in his handling of his girlfriend's employment, saying he wished he had trusted his instincts and stayed out of the matter. Coupled with increasing employee unrest, Friday's board statement left the bank president's future in doubt.
"It looks like it's going to be quite difficult for him to stay," said John Williamson, a former World Bank chief economist for South Asia and now a senior fellow with the Peterson Institute for International Economics.
Release of the board's report came one day after the bank's employee staff association publicly called for Wolfowitz to resign. "The President must acknowledge that his conduct has compromised the integrity and effectiveness of the World Bank Group and has destroyed the staff's trust in his leadership. He must act honorably and resign," said a letter from Alison Cave, head of the employee association.
Wolfowitz has been dogged by controversy since leaving his Defense Department post in 2005 to take the bank's helm. Wolfowitz, one of the leading architects of the invasion of Iraq, was an unpopular choice with the development experts who make up the bank's professional staff.
He also barred countries he regarded as corrupt from receiving additional loans, putting him at odds with bank staffers who wanted to concentrate on the bank's traditional anti-poverty mission.
The president's dogged focus on corruption, however, now is coming back to haunt him. Development experts say Wolfowitz no longer has the credibility to judge the integrity of loan recipients. "The crusader for good governance must fall on his own sword," says Manish Bapna, executive director of the non-profit Bank Information Center. "To some extent, he's a victim of his own agenda."
Subject: Re: PRESSURE MOUNTING ON WOLFOWITZ TO QUIT!!!!
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 10:33:34 04/14/07 ()
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When I first al3rted this forum to World Bank's President Paul Wolfowitz's history of making false statements, including those he made in SL when he praised the same internationally notorious SLPP government of President Kabbah and Vice President Solomon Berewa, here is what one Kohtor Kamal wrote:
"So Wolfowitz's girlfriend got an unusual raise: what is the connection to him and his statements on SL or any other country which are based on facts? Was the decision to give the pay raise Wolfowitz's or someone wanting to impress him? Did Wolfowitz have to approve the pay raise? Please avoid this grasping just to support a previously tenuous position." -- Posted by Kohtor Kamal on 04/07/07
Now, let's read what was written about the same matter that Kohtor Kamal told us was not a fact:
The Washington Post, April 13, 2007:
"World Bank President Paul D. Wolfowitz personally dictated the terms under which the bank gave what it called his "domestic partner" substantial pay raises and promotions in exchange for temporarily leaving her job there during his tenure, according to documents released by the bank's executive board yesterday.."
QUESTION: Is the clueless Kohtor Kamal now going to apologize to this forum for lying about Wolfowitz's long history of corruption, including his latest act of public immorality at the World Bank to which he has now openly confessed?
Subject: Re: PRESSURE MOUNTING ON WOLFOWITZ TO QUIT!!!!
From: Onliner
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Date Posted: 10:32:08 04/14/07 ()
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He is part of the present hawkish neocon machine that lied about Iraqs WMD and many other issues. He, like members of the rest of his team, lacks moral integrity and should go.
Monkey no dae leff ihn black han.
Subject: Re: PRESSURE MOUNTING ON WOLFOWITZ TO QUIT!!!!
From: Supremo
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Date Posted: 02:05:16 04/14/07 ()
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Bush says Wolfowitz is going nowhere, and so he will stay on.
Subject: THE APC IS STILL DISUNITED
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 16:11:13 04/13/07 ()
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The excitement within the Eight PerCenters APC grouping regarding Hon. Justice Sydney Warne’s recent decision not to interfere further with on-going negotiations between that faction and the Thirty PerCenters APC grouping is entirely misplaced.
Merely because the Judge decided to withdraw from mediating the dispute does not mean that the Eight PerCenters have won anything of value worth celebrating. In fact, the whole thing is back to Square One.
Mr. Justice Warne’s withdrawal statement in his capacity as the Chairman PPRC-mediator speaks volumes and no part of his remark can legitimately serve as a basis for celebrations for any reason whatsoever as the Eight PerCenters plan to do with a public march pass on Saturday April 14 from Up-Gun to Victoria Park via Saunders and Campbell Streets and PaDemba Road.
Here is what the judge said as cited by Cocorioko:
“I am happy to note that both sides have been negotiating. It will be inappropriate for me to intervene at every point of your negotiations. I believe my clarification on the Court Judgment delivered on 22nd June 2004 was unequivocal. I have no authority to revisit the Judgment of the Supreme Court or any other court of competent legal authority. The work of my Commission is finished.”
In order words, the matter presented to him by Mr. M. L. Bangura for resolution is a political matter for the principals for resolve internally and not a legal one for the Political Parties Registration Commission to mess with. Therefore, the parties are left to their own devices to continue their negotiations without the judge’s intervention.
What is there to celebrate in this washing off of Justice Warne’s hands from the APC palaver? Nothing, absolutely nothing!
The real solution will come when the leaders of the two ethnic groups reach agreement on how to resolve the so far intractable tribalistic hegemonistic power struggle that has gone on now for five years with no solution in sight.
Only when both Honorable Messrs. Eddie Turay and Kamal Serry of the Thirty PerCenters grouping say publicly that they have settled their differences with the Eight PerCenters KDDA marginalizers and Ekutay poverty spreaders/frolickers and display in public the usual indicia of unity – like public hugging across faction lines - will APC be seen by the general public to be genuinely united once again – just as they were during the 2002 campaign – and only until then will this long-running dispute be put to rest.
A march pass that would surely congest vehicular traffic on a busy Saturday in a congested city is most unreasonable and does nothing to advance the resolution of the dispute. -JL
Subject: Re: THE APC IS STILL DISUNITED
From: Saidu Daphay Turay
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Date Posted: 08:07:39 04/14/07 ()
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John Leigh:
I am totally deceived by your level of understanding and your self-styled higher education you claim to possess. If Sierra Leone is to move forward in its present state of demise, a man of your nature should not be allowed to participate in liberating Sierra Leone even in the party (SLPP) you claim to belong. I see why President Kabbah pushed you out from the bandwagon of the SLPP party after you sycophantly purported to help restore him to power. Your greed for power to be a dangerous leader was exposed when you contested the presidential candidacy in the SLPP convention in Makeni. If you are a man of wisdom and self-respect, it is high time you sit quietly and examine where you have gone wrong in life before attempting to lambast well meaningful Sierra Leoneans who have the country at heart or under the banner of the party you claim to belong that have ruined Sierra Leone, with poverty, human rights abuses and divisiveness even with its party. Sad to say that you are a funtional illiterate and a disappointment to Sierra Leonean in the diaspora and at home because of your undiplomatic approach to issues. Be informed that Sierra Leoneans have no place for political prostitutes like you, rather, they are looking for individual with political maturity and a sense of direction for a country which you contibuted immensely to ruin.
Subject: Re: THE APC IS STILL DISUNITED
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 11:32:35 04/14/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Mr. Saidu Daphay Turay:
Please calm down and try to debate the issues presented for discussion. Throwing insults and making untrue outlandish statements do nothing to understand the real problem afflicting a disunited opposition party – the APC.
The points I argued that got you so riled up are these:
(i) The available evidence in the on-going dispute between two APC factions points to the fact that the PPRC has washed its hands off it and has returned the case to the parties for a political solution. - True or False?
(ii) The PPRC decision to wash its hands off the dispute does not warrant any celebration as no faction has won and in fact the case is back to Square One. True or False?
(iii) The lack of any progress in reaching an agreement during 5 long years of the dispute proves that the problem separating the parties is truly intractable. –True or false?
(iv) The line-up of the adversaries in the dispute points to a tribalistic hegemonistic power struggle between two tribal groups; one accounting for 8% of our population, the other 30%. – True or false?
(v) All claims of “victory” and “dispute settled” are coming from only one side – the 8 percenters who are the insiders. The 30% group is stunningly silent despite the noise and the proposed march pass by its adversary. – True or false?
(vi) People won’t believe the leaders of the 8 percenters unless the leaders of the 30 percenters publicly join them in a victory celebration or a dispute settlement statement. True or false?
The above objective analysis should not upset any rational individual genuinely interested in addressing national problems and might, as a matter of fact, be welcomed by those forumites who are interested in thoroughly understanding political developments back home. Too often, lies and misleading statements are relied upon by crookish politicians to fool unsophisticated people.
That’s where and when I come in – to provide accurate voter education information so that our people, regardless of ethnicity, religion, gender, etc. can make the right choice in the public interest.
If you wish to debate properly, your arguments ought to have been directed to counter my above points rather than try to throw mud around and get sullen. There is no place in the democratic nation-building process for short-temper, haughtiness, arrogance, rudeness or irrelevancies.
Now let us examine each and every one of the statements you’ve insulted me with in response to my posting and determine for yourself if such has in any way contributed to our understanding of the APC situation or in making our country a better place for all of our people. Here we go:
1.“John Leigh:”
“I am totally deceived by your level of understanding and your self-styled higher education you claim to possess.”- Mr. Saidu Daphay Turay
Where is the deceit? How can a simple, truthful statement deceive you? Is anything I wrote inaccurate? If so, please help me correct my analysis. I stand ready to gain from your rebuttal. Thank you. Next, what self-styled higher education did I claim I possess? Please show me this alleged claim of mine and how such an alleged claim is relevant in this particular debate? Thank you.
2. “If Sierra Leone is to move forward in its present state of demise, a man of your nature should not be allowed to participate in liberating Sierra Leone even in the party (SLPP) you claim to belong.” - Mr. Saidu Daphay Turay
Why do you believe that a bona fide citizen of SLeone should be denied his fundamental human rights merely because he wrote a simple analysis that some people like you may not like? Is that the society you have in mind to help create for all of us? Most SLeoneans will surely disagree with you.
Besides, the World is interested in providing more rights for people so that society can be open up to civilization. Backwardness is not the wave of the future. If SLeone is in a “present state of demise” as you put it, those responsible include the KDDA marginalizers, Ekutay poverty spreaders, the RUF and the AFRC/RUF coupligan destroyers.
3. “I see why President Kabbah pushed you out from the bandwagon of the SLPP party after you sycophantly purported to help restore him to power.” - Mr. Saidu Daphay Turay
President Kabbah never pushed my out of the SLPP. But presidents do get rid of appointees for a variety of reasons; some good, some bad. No one can objectively say that all the appointees got rid of by Presidents Kabbah, Bush, Mobuto, Amin, Bokassa, Stevens, Momoh, Sheku Turay, etc. were all made on the basis of sound decisions. Some presidents do bad things.
Some presidents like Stevens and Momoh not only pushed appointees out of the presidential wagon but executed some of them. You remember Dr. Mohamed Fornah and Mr. Ibrahim Tarqui, good guys who were sacked and executed by Stevens? Those gentlemen helped Stevens gained control of the APC and power in Sierra Leone in the hope that good will come out of that effort for all Sierra Leoneans. Where they sycophantic in helping Stevens in the hope he will do good for all of us?
Removing your Foot of State Johnny Paul, his AFRC barbarians and his bloody RUF colleagues was the proper thing to do. You think you are right about the coupligans and the whole world is wrong?
President Kabbah was duly elected by the people. I was in a position to help correct the barbarism and savagery in your country. It was duty – and a duty well done. It was not an opportunity to double-cross the president who appointed me as you seem to indicate and as Johnny Paul tried to do.
Loyalty and effectiveness on the job do not amount to sycophancy at all, maybe except for dombolos, dunces and remedials. You will never catch me back-stabbing anyone, marginalizing anyone or lying to anyone or frolicking at public expense anywhere.
4. “Your greed for power to be a dangerous leader was exposed when you contested the presidential candidacy in the SLPP convention in Makeni.” - Mr. Saidu Daphay Turay.
Since when contesting to be the Leader of your party transparently is greed for power? You definitely need to know how modern society is organized and functions before you engage yourself in public affairs. A transparent individual like me cannot be dangerous to good people. Wacking killer savages and barbarians such as Johnny Paul, Foday Sankoh and the like is considered good and proper by law-abiding people.
5. “If you are a man of wisdom and self-respect, it is high time you sit quietly and examine where you have gone wrong in life before attempting to lambast well meaningful Sierra Leoneans who have the country at heart or under the banner of the party you claim to belong that have ruined Sierra Leone, with poverty, human rights abuses and divisiveness even with its party.” - Mr. Saidu Daphay Turay
You do not seem to know what wisdom and self-respect are. If you did, your instant response would have addressed the issues I presented for discussion, rather than futilely seeking to degrade my posting with insults, rudeness and bombastic allegations not based on facts.
Next, my posting was not to lambaste anyone. I am merely engaged in voter education to explain the meaning of the action taken by the PPRC Chairman in the long-running APC feud.
I certainly have the best interests of SLeone at heart that was why I worked to help restore the duly elected government. You seem to be sympathetic to those who ruined SLeone and were out only for themselves and their people such as the AFRC/RUF monsters.
6. “Sad to say that you are a funtional illiterate and a disappointment to Sierra Leonean in the diaspora and at home because of your undiplomatic approach to issues.” - Mr. Saidu Daphay Turay
You are wrong. The thinness of your background may explain your ignorance about the real meaning of what you term ‘functional illiterate’. Get an education, please! Next, I am a disappointment only to people like you –AFRC/RUF supporters/sympathizers, some eight percenters and some PMDC foolumunkus, disappointed crookish alphabet politicians, remedials, dunces and dumbo-tombo dombolos.
Lastly, someone like you will never be able to speak for the entire SLeone Diaspora community. So, stop wasting your time and energy. Thank you.
7. “Be informed that Sierra Leoneans have no place for political prostitutes like you, rather, they are looking for individual with political maturity and a sense of direction for a country which you contibuted immensely to ruin.” - Mr. Saidu Daphay Turay
You do not have the authority to speak for the whole nation of Sierra Leoneans. Who the hell do you think you are? You wish I was like some hip-hopping, flip-flopping alphabet politician. I am not. I have belonged to only one party: the SLPP.
Besides, my background, experience and world contacts, if put to use in SLeone, can only benefit people like you and your kind! My work for Sierra Leone during the six years I was in Washington is regarded by civilized people as wholly beneficial to my country – a very bright spot in a land of disappointments.
Merely because I helped evict your coupligans, and helped to get international attention and assistance focused on SLeone’s problems, cannot mean that I “contributed immensely to the ruin” of SLeone.
If you have any proof of the “immense ruin” you claim I caused, please publish them soonest. Thank you.
I now respectfully invite to tear apart in a proper manner my analysis of the state of the APC dispute in a responsible manner. Thank you. –JL
Subject: Re: THE APC IS STILL DISUNITED
From: Saidu Daphay Turay
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Date Posted: 14:57:06 04/14/07 ()
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Mr. John Leigh:
There is a wise saying in Sierra Leone, " When possin born-sweh, wae he talk, pikin sef they halla panam," so is your case. You have always been a controversial figure in the cocorioko articles and forum, I will advice you trace you mende heritage, or better still, you go to the founders of kamajors, RUF and Ndogborwusu initiated by your party the SLPP, probably they still have self-styled, bloody thirsty spiritualists to cleanse you from the "sweh" that seems to haunt you. Lontha!!
Subject: Re: THE APC IS STILL DISUNITED
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 16:56:05 04/14/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Mr. Saidu Daphay Turay:
I now assume that you have no interest or ability to debate in a reasonable way the APC Disunity issues I presented for debate in this forum and that you are a thoroughly emotional figure who is unable to participate effectively in democratic debates or hold your own in disputes and controversies in matters of public interest.
Accordingly, I say goodbye to you in this Forum and wish you every success in all your future endeavors. With all good wishes! - JL
Subject: Re: THE APC IS STILL DISUNITED
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 06:59:49 04/14/07 ()
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John you are part krio and part mende where do you belong? To the 30 percenters or the one and a half percenters. just checking.
I guess the reason why I am asking this question is because I see your post and other posts of the same nature to be divisive of a nation as small as ours. Arent the 30 percenters and the 8 percenters not part of the 100 percenters the nation of sierra leone
Subject: Re: THE APC IS STILL DISUNITED
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 11:50:53 04/14/07 ()
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Dear Al:
Below is my response to what you wrote here:
“John you are part krio and part mende where do you belong? To the 30 percenters or the one and a half percenters. just checking.
“I guess the reason why I am asking this question is because I see your post and other posts of the same nature to be divisive of a nation as small as ours.” – Atty. Al Iscandari
I am a 100 PerCenter Sierra Leonean and I understand the power of tribal cleavages and the irrationality of tribalistic hegemonistic ambitions.
Remember the PMDC conditions for selecting their running mate: Northern Muslim? Is this not pandering to tribal cleavages and religious bigotry? Why did PMDC pick a Fullah running mate after the double-cross?
Why has the APC leader always been a Limba or considered a Limba? Why is the 5-year APC dispute so intractable?
Tribalistic hegemony at once contributes to both national instability and economic backwardness and the sooner we truly recognize this problem and begin to address it, the better for us and our children. Let’s face it: it is a very difficult problem in many unsophisticated lands. It exists! Thanks for posting your concerns. -JL
Subject: Kay-boo Face
From: Outpatient
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Date Posted: 13:33:21 04/13/07 ()
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Check this out.
Subject: Re: Kay-boo Face
From: kroobaymom
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Date Posted: 02:15:25 04/14/07 ()
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When your ADC looks much better than you then you know you have a problem
Subject: Re: Kay-boo Face
From: Outpatient
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Date Posted: 08:02:29 04/14/07 ()
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Case rested.
Subject: Re: Kay-boo Face
From: HA HA HA
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Date Posted: 13:38:05 04/13/07 ()
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You go kill me wit laff.
That's the face of a former SLPP supporter, I swear.
Subject: Re: Kay-boo Face
From: Outpatient
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Date Posted: 14:27:12 04/13/07 ()
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Reminds me a child-hood age masked devil called "Ari Obgo".
Don't they wear masks any more?
Subject: Margai faces party wrath over named running mate
From: BILITY
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Date Posted: 12:22:18 04/13/07 ()
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Margai faces party wrath over named running mate
It is reported in The Democrat and The News newspapers that all is not rosy in the opposition Peoples Movement for Democratic Change (PMDC), following the naming of a running mate early this week. The reports maintain that supporters of the nascent political party, an offshoot of the ruling SLPP, view the choice of a former minister of the ruling SLPP as most unfortunate, accusing the founder and leader of the party, lawyer Charles Margai, son of Sierra Leone’s first prime Minister, of tactically infesting the leadership of the party with former executives of the ruling party, which they say would not augur well for PMDC stalwarts.
“This will frustrate members of the party who have rendered moral and financial support to the party” a stalwart reportedly fumed. At the party’s headquarters in Freetown, a good number of supporters reportedly handed over letters of protest to the secretariat expressing disappointment over the appointment of Dr. Ibrahim Tejan Jalloh, sacked minister of Health and Sanitation under the SLPP, as running mate of Mr. Margai, himself a disgruntled former member of the SLPP.
Subject: Re: Margai faces party wrath over named running mate
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 13:24:25 04/13/07 ()
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Why all this fuss about who Margai chooses as his running mate?
Is it because he didn't choose some desperate politician want-to-be from abraoad?
The man has a right to choose whoever he is comfortable with. After all, he is the one who has to work with this person, should he win the elections.
By the way, The PMDC is made up of former disgruntled SLPP members. So there is absolutely no surprise that Tejan-Jalloh a disgruntled SLPP member got selected. If you did not know that by now, then you have been in the dark for too long.
Subject: Re: Margai faces party wrath over named running mate
From: Fact
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Date Posted: 13:34:06 04/13/07 ()
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Margai has to open up with the media. His present mumu tactics will not be good for him and the pmdc because the slpp spin doctors are having a field day. margai may have very good reasons for selecting tejan-jalloh. I think he did a master stroke (like all good leaders) that took the slpp off balance, forcing them to launch desperate attacks almost every day.
i am sure they had assembled tons of bad stuff against dauda tombo and margai may be aware of this. tombo has some serious skeletons in his cupboard, i am told. margai should now go on the offensive and explain things. it's good karamoh kabba has not left the pmdc, this means he can still continue writing and counter-attacking. pmdc supporters should rally behind their leader now or the slpp will destroy it. remember, the party is not margai, neither is margai the party. so, save your party.
Subject: Re: Margai faces party wrath over named running mate
From: Tactical change
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Date Posted: 00:00:36 04/14/07 ()
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True. The opposition is disappointed because Tombo was not put on stage.
This is the man they wanted so that they can shred him into pieces.
Subject: Open Letter to Pres Kabbah on Kanji Daramy,Chairman, Nationa
From: Researcher
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Date Posted: 10:58:55 04/13/07 ()
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(Culled From Standard Times)
Dear Mr. President:
Open Letter to His Excellency on Mr. Kanji Daramy,
Chairman, National Telecommunications Commission.
I would like to take this opportunity to express
my respect and admiration for you personally.
Your fervent quest to move our economy forward
and to place Sierra Leone among the regional leaders
in the private sector world is admirable.
Mr. President during your visit to the United States in 2002, you made a clarion call for professional Sierra Leoneans to return home to contribute to national development in the aftermath of decades of misrule and the 11 year civil war.
We believe your call was not mere words but a genuine desire to see to it that the “brain drain” problem is effectively addressed and the devastation of our social infrastructure adequately tackled.
Some of us in the Diaspora have answered to your call and had done so without attempting to seek any special favours from your office or any other political office for that matter.
Under your administration, we have seen strong efforts in invoking and promoting private sector provide economic, technical, and policy regulations for this evolving telecom sector shall be applauded.
Mr. President, as a patriotic Sierra Leonean that responded to the call to duty to serve my country, I would like to express to you my dismay at the treatment received from the National Telecommunications Commission (NTC) and Mr. Kanji Daramy in particular.
His Excellency (H.E), before going further, I would like to provide you with a summary of my professional and family background.
I am a seasoned telecom expert and management consultant with a versed global telecommunications background (Regulations, Systems Design, Implementation and Testing, Training, OSS and Billing) that spans over ten years delivering services and solutions to many of the top telecom organizations and National Regulatory Authorities around the world UK, USA, Colombia, Romania, Ireland, Venezuela, Argentina and Sierra Leone).
My father, the late Colonel M.E.S. Massaquoi was a gallant Sandhurst educated military officer that fought for this land. My uncle (Late B.S. Massaquoi), was a strong member of the SLPP party and my aunt (P.C. Theresa Vibbi), is a party stalwart also and I myself, a contributing member (Chief Patron) of the party.
His Excellency, my disappointment stems from the actions taken by the Board of Commissioners through the direct influence of the Chairman, Mr. Kanji Daramy. Sir, for what I know the presidency stands for, I find it extremely hard to believe that your great office will try to influence the hiring of an unqualified candidate for a technical and professional position (Director, Industry and Consumer Affairs) within the Commission, an expertise-oriented organization for that matter.
Suffice to say that I happened to find myself on the receiving end of this miscreant treatment.
The Chairman, on the day of the interview for this position presented a letter purported to come from the Office of the President by way of the Secretary to the President, instructing the Commissioners to hire a certain individual for the said position. Mr. President, this ‘railroaded’ any fairness or objectivity in the process and this resulted in qualifications being substituted for political connections.
Sir, I had helped the Chairman with establishing this Commission since October of 2006. Sector data, fees structuring, tutoring, and assignments for the Chairman, I have done them all.
In fact, I helped create the above-mentioned position authoring the job descr1ption for both the Finance and Industry & Consumer Affairs departments. I will spend hours of my personal time at the State Lodge (October, November and December of 2006) working with Mr. Daramy on matters bordering the Commission.
He had even promised for me to get paid by the Commission for my services rendered for the months of November and December. My contribution to this Commission has been enormous and strongly recognized by the sector players and even the World Bank. The action engineered by Mr. Daramy that resulted in my not being hired is not only ungrateful and wrong but also unprincipled and unjust.
The qualifications of the individual hired falls far short of the established requirements for the job and someone may independently look into that (compare the qualifications).
Just days before the interviews, the Chairman again assured me of the position and confirmed with me that my credentials and demonstrated competence were the most profound amongst the applicants. However, Mr. Daramy’s attitude towards me changed drastically on the Friday prior to the interviews and during meetings with the visiting World Bank team. He had been very cold towards me since that Friday leading to the interview day.
On that Monday in his office, he accused me of attempting to present myself to the World Bank as the most knowledgeable individual at the Commission. He even suggested that there was no need for me to have given the World Bank team a ride to their hotel after the meetings.
During this meeting, I was participative and I contributed to the discussions across the table. Unknown to me, I had vexed the Chairman as a result of my participation at this gathering. This was never my intention by the way. I was just trying to express my familiarity with the subject matter being discussed. I had always sensed the Chairman’s discomfort with my in-depth knowledge on the subject matter and independent and innovative thinking on issues. He suggested in the presence of the other Commission members that even though he cannot “dispute my expertise in telecom regulations, I was still a young boy and was only five years old when he graduated from FBC in 1976”. The Chairman had grown very uneasy with me since I had initiated a ‘heart-to-heart’ meeting with him in relations to an attempt by him to make side deals (on licensing fees) with some of the operators. He is already engaged in malpractices with monies collected from the operators.
I had cautioned the Chairman against seeking any illegal compensation from these operators and I even wanted to instruct some of the operators not to entertain the idea. He later accused me of leaking this information to the Minister of Finance, which I can tell you were not true. I was also accused by the Chairman in the presence of the other Commission members of conniving with a media outlet to give him bad publicity. He has insulted my ethnicity (Mende) and has claimed in the presence of others that there is an underground campaign by the Mendes to control all public offices in this country.
Sir, working with Mr. Daramy, I quickly realized his lack of respect for knowledge, integrity and professionalism. In as much as he is lacking in knowledge on telecommunications matters; he refuses to accept opinions from any other persons with the relevant capacity. He runs a ‘one man show’ at the Commission and his management skills are abysmal at best. I will be honest here to tell you that after interacting with Mr. Daramy for few months, I came to the conclusion that my professional background would be greatly compromised if I continue at this commission under the Chairmanship of Mr. Daramy. The Chairman does not encourage competent individuals to be effective. He is not sold on young professionals being capable due to their age.
Mr. President, I do recognize Mr. Daramy’s attachment to the Presidency. However, Mr. Daramy’s miscreant ways coupled with his acute lack of the basic aspects of telecommunications and telecom regulations may not bode well for this dynamic sector and the development of this country. Mr. Daramy does not have the moral bandwidth nor does he have the intellectual or mental capacity to effectively serve in his current capacity. Sir, in as much as loyalty may have played a role in his appointment in the first place, I will still appeal to you to reconsider his appointment.
His Excellency, please shore up your legacy by undoing this wrong (Mr. Daramy’s appointment) to the people of this country. His lacking in the ‘professionalism’ department and total incompetence in the subject matter (telecom and telecom regulations) will have a significant effect albeit negative one on the Commission and definitely on the sector as a whole for years to come. In the opinions of many, he has no peoples’ skills and significantly lacks the commanding knowledge to effectively serve as the manager of our growing telecommunications sector. I can never see myself working with Mr. Daramy and even if given the opportunity today to take that job I will turn it down.
Mr. President, thank you very much for your support and I hope you can address this matter in a timely manner. We shall not relent until this matter is adequately addressed. Mr. Daramy does not belong to post-war Sierra Leone. He is an antithesis to progressive leadership. His Excellency, put everything aside, I think we all would have been better off if you had given Mr. Daramy the ambassadorial appointment he had originally sought from you.
Sincerely,
Maxwell H. Massaquoi
Citizen Stakeholder
cc. The World Bank
DFID
EU
ITU
US Ambassador to Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: NEVER KISS AND TELL BEFORE YOU GET THE JOB
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 07:43:34 04/14/07 ()
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The Chairman had grown very uneasy with me since I had initiated a ‘heart-to-heart’ meeting with him in relations to an attempt by him to make side deals (on licensing fees) with some of the operators. He is already engaged in malpractices with monies collected from the operators.
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Did he do that? Would you have said all of this i you had gotten the Job? Is this a case of sour grapes? If he is already engaged in financial malpractices, would you be willing to present this evidence to the ACC for possible prosecution? Would your testimony be found credible and not based on animosity?
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I had cautioned the Chairman against seeking any illegal compensation from these operators and I even wanted to instruct some of the operators not to entertain the idea.
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Bo you nor geh de job yate you don begin for run mot. nar dah mek you nor geh de jab bra.look in the mirror you and not Kanji may be the problem.
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He later accused me of leaking this information to the Minister of Finance, which I can tell you were not true.
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I know that you would not have leaked that information to Ngor John B, but then again one could not put that past you.
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He has insulted my ethnicity (Mende) and has claimed in the presence of others that there is an underground campaign by the Mendes to control all public offices in this country.
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Wow did he do that? How did he insult your Ethnicity? Give us some more specifics. You can NOT make an allegation like this without specifics. Come on give us the down low on this clear caase of tribal discrimination which though not legally actionable is still cognizable as such.
Remember Merchant of Venice and Shylocks Rants
"he hates my sacred nation"
Did he really say that there was an underground campaign by mendes to control all public offices? Wow I wonder where he got this idea from particularly since he was so close to the president as his spokesperson. Might he be right? Isnt this already the case in sierra leone. Arent mendes controlling the civil service to the exclusion of other tribes. Shouldnt we have laws that protect working peoples from discrimination at the work place? If we had such laws which tribe do you think would be found most culpable for discrimination against others?
We should be creating a one nation under GOD. To hell with my father was this, my uncle was that, and my party membership is this. It seems to that you were not the best person for the job. I have objected to Kanji on many occasions but on this one my ballots fall on his side because of your sheer arrogance.
Subject: Re: Open Letter to Pres Kabbah on Kanji Daramy,Chairman, Nationa
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 07:23:27 04/14/07 ()
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He suggested in the presence of the other Commission members that even though he cannot “dispute my expertise in telecom regulations, I was still a young boy and was only five years old when he graduated from FBC in 1976”
That means he pulled rank on yo butt. Dawgone that was so not fair. I would appeal on this note that it was discrimination based on age. But there are no laws to protect you on this one so you lose.
Subject: Re: BAIT AND SWITCH
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq.
To: All
Date Posted: 07:20:59 04/14/07 ()
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"Just days before the interviews, the Chairman again assured me of the position and confirmed with me that my credentials and demonstrated competence were the most profound amongst the applicants. However, Mr. Daramy’s attitude towards me changed drastically on the Friday prior to the interviews and during meetings with the visiting World Bank team. He had been very cold towards me since that Friday leading to the interview day.
Subject: Re: BAIT AND SWITCH
From: charles
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Date Posted: 10:07:54 04/14/07 ()
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Bra de man create de job en want the job at the same time. Ose kin tin da wan dae?
Subject: Re: Open Letter to Pres Kabbah on Kanji Daramy,Chairman, Nationa
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 07:07:03 04/14/07 ()
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My father, the late Colonel M.E.S. Massaquoi was a gallant Sandhurst educated military officer that fought for this land. My uncle (Late B.S. Massaquoi), was a strong member of the SLPP party and my aunt (P.C. Theresa Vibbi), is a party stalwart also and I myself, a contributing member (Chief Patron) of the party.
WHO GIVES A RATS AZZ. ROTFLMMFAO
Subject: Re: Open Letter to Pres Kabbah on Kanji Daramy,Chairman, Nationa
From: APC
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Date Posted: 10:11:10 04/14/07 ()
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"WHO GIVES A RATS AZZ".
You don't because you have nothing in your family tree to be proud of.. hehehehahahaha
ROTFLMMFAO
Subject: Re: Open Letter to Pres Kabbah on Kanji Daramy,Chairman, Nationa
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 12:08:36 04/14/07 ()
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and thats probably the reason why I have NEVER written a letter to the President, never touted my family lines because I am a SELF MADE MAN. Now whos laughing?
Subject: Re: Open Letter to Pres Kabbah on Kanji Daramy,Chairman, Nationa
From: APC
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Date Posted: 12:31:58 04/14/07 ()
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Do not throw stones when you live in a glass house....thats a warning...you have alot to talk about...lonta.
Subject: Re: Open Letter to Pres Kabbah on Kanji Daramy,Chairman, Nationa
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 14:04:15 04/15/07 ()
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hey Mr. faceless APC, I have nothing to hide and if you think I do bring it out by all means and when you do if you believe in what you are saying then say it under you own damn name.
Subject: Re: Open Letter to Pres Kabbah on Kanji Daramy,Chairman, Nationa
From: what a guy
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Date Posted: 03:15:46 04/14/07 ()
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This letter is full of bad English and insults. Lots of arrogance too.
Subject: Re: Open Letter to Pres Kabbah on Kanji Daramy,Chairman, Nationa
From: musa Kalawa
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Date Posted: 02:46:12 04/14/07 ()
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DUDE'
With such vast knowledge and experience in telecom & Communication network you claimed to have archieve, I may suggest you return back and work for some of these firms/Countries you mention on your complaint. Maybe it is not yet time for you to go home and help.
Subject: Re: Open Letter to Pres Kabbah on Kanji Daramy,Chairman, Nationa
From: Almamy Seray-Wurie Si
To: All
Date Posted: 18:21:54 04/13/07 ()
Email Address: almamysi@hotmail.com
Entered From: 24hr03.osr.columbia.edu at 156.111.18.112
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This tells that we must keep praying for our mentality to change.
If all that Hinga said about my teacher Kanji Daramy is true then we must pray harder. Also if what my teacher said about the Howard Uni graduation date plus panel included Alhaji Ibrahim Kabia of Water works fame then my brother must have the courage to tell us the truth.
About stating family connections..I think Mr Massaquoi needs not mention.
Massaquoi blood runs through many of us.....
Anyone who is Anti-Mende or Mende Maniac must make an appointment with Dr Nahim (One of the few dedicated SL son)...
Subject: Re: Open Letter to Pres Kabbah on Kanji Daramy,Chairman, Nationa
From: charles
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Date Posted: 11:39:18 04/13/07 ()
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"In fact, I helped create the above-mentioned position authoring the job descr1ption for both the Finance and Industry & Consumer Affairs departments".
Damn this man is desperate. How can you help create a position and want to be hired in that position?
Subject: Re: Open Letter to Pres Kabbah on Kanji Daramy,Chairman, Nat
From: Cee Bah
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Date Posted: 11:22:43 04/13/07 ()
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This letter is too sensational. It is written by someone who is currying favour or something.
Why go thorugh your family background and praise Pa Kabbah so they can give you another job somewhere? I am tired of these kinds of games in Salone.
Subject: Re: Open Letter to Pres Kabbah on Kanji Daramy,Chairman, Nat
From: Beggaman
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Date Posted: 12:26:49 04/13/07 ()
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I have never seen someone so desparately begging for a job.
Subject: A MUST-READ ANALYSIS OF SLPP'S LEADERSHIP
From: lAMIN kONNEH
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Date Posted: 10:49:23 04/13/07 ()
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In Reply to: Re: I Hate no One Anywhere! posted by John E. Leigh on April 13, 2007 at 10:30:27:
How can one lead effectively when his key tactic is double-crossing others? -- JL
John Leigh are you talking about your SLPP leaders, Kabbah and Berewa? Kabbah double-crossed Dr. Joe Demby and gave his job as VP to the Bumpe Killer, Solomon Berewa. He also double-crossed one John Leigh who had bribed him for his ambassadorship to the USA and gave Leigh's job to Berewa's protege, Ibrahim Kamara.
Then Berewa double-crossed ambassador Kamara when earlier this year he gave Kamara's job to Berewa's partner in selling Sa Lon's embassies, Tejan Jalloh.
Ah, John Leigh, den dae tol you bell, you dae ask oodat die! Why are SLPP suporters so blind?
Subject: Re: A MUST-READ ANALYSIS OF SLPP'S LEADERSHIP
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 11:13:38 04/13/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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No, Mr. Konneh. I am talking about the PMDC leadership.
For your information, Mr. Kabbah did not double-cross Dr.Joe Demby. He merely dropped him as his running mate for his second term. It is the SLPP-leader's right just as it is the PMDC's leader's right to select his running mate each time he is contesting.
Next, President Kabbah did not double-cross me. He merely did not want me to be part of his second term. I recognize such as his absolute right to choose whomever he wishes for a presidential appointment. And I say the same for all my successors in DC.
Please note that in politics no appointed position is permanent.
Lastly, I have never bribed anyone in my entire life and making campaign contributions to help one's party is a proper thing to do, especially in a poverty-stricken country trying to be democratic.
I salute whomsoever is footing the bill to promote PMDC. He/they has/have done good for Sierra Leone.
Below is the posting you did not properly understand.
Thank you. -JL
Posted by John E. Leigh on April 13, 2007 at 10:30:27:
In Reply to: Re: You have personal grudge against Mendes? posted by Adu Konteh on April 13, 2007 at 08:27:40:
Dear Mr. Adu Konteh & Dr. Fanusi:
You are both wrong about my motivation in opposing Mr. Margai. I really do not hate Mr. Margai or any other individual. My upbringing was very strict against harboring grudges or hatreds against anyone.
Besides, I am far more handsome and wholesome in my politics than your man with that arrogant smirk on his face! And I don't give a damn about one's tribe. It is one's character that interests me. For your information, my beloved late older brother was half Sherbro!
My problem with your hero is what I perceive as his over-ambition in light of his flunkey, under-achieving, undistinguished background. Yet, such a character had the gumption to seek to lead someone like Dr. James Jonah, the late Chief Sam Norman and myself in one go. He must have been really full of himself but I knew him only too well.
You see, my younger brother met him in form four at CKC and left him there. They shared the same desk and I got an education from Fred and later from others during my own campaign run about the meager capabilities of the man some of you worship.
Your man is not qualified to lead me at all - and never will. Yet he and his henchmen sought to double-cross the Third Force by rushing to secretly set-up his one-manic ownership PMDC, surrounded himself with alphabet-soup types and thereafter pushed me to the extreme of annoyance in their repeated failed attempts to rope me into their foolumunku cabal of dunces, flunkies and remedials.
And when I refused and refused to deal with PMDC what was their reaction? I was pelted with their tsunamis of vituperations since March 1, 2006 - all to no avail. But I don't think PMDCers hate me. I think they hate my politics.
In my opinion, your man is full of arrogance, deceit, deception, duplicity and double-cross. His dynastic entitlement mentality, his haughtiness and his disregard for the interests of others greatly upset many people. You just read Mr. Karamoh Kabba's letter of resignation.
Your man's lack of analytical capability was palpable throughout his campaign run yet he had dombolo defenders in this forum singing his worthless praises and rudely insulting and attacking those who wish to engage in serious discourse under cover of chicken monikers.
Here is a man who surrounded himself with crookish dumbo-tombos and opportunistic alphabet politicians yet he sought to mislead the public that he will fight corruption. How can you fight corruption when you harbor crookish politicians and tiff-tiff disbarred lawyers at the top echelon of your one-manic ownership party of foolumunkus and remedials?
How can one lead effectively when his key tactic is double-crossing others? First, Third Force reformers were double-crossed via secretly setting-up his own privately-owned party, surrounding himself with dubious types then inviting well known dissenters to fall in place under his puelo self? The cheek!
How can one effectively lead when one is frequently hip-hopping and flip-flopping from one party to another solely to gain a personal advantage?
How can you lead effectively when, having agreed on the criteria for selecting your running mate and had invited your most loyal supporters who met the running mate criteria to submit their applications, and after they had faithfully submitted the requested applications, you suddenly turn your back on them and double-crossed them with a stupid kindergarten stunt?
How can you lead effectively when you take a very smart and disciplined group of Sierra Leoneans for fools and opportunists by suddenly selecting one their kind for your running mate but only after you have publicly fooled and double-crossed your own people and only after you have had your henchmen harassed that very smart group of people to hinder their registration to vote for a new president and parliament?
Why do you think you are smarter than Fullahs?
Your big man is not a presidential material and it was this background that I sought to explain to good people who are looking for change but fell into PMDC propaganda of lies, deceit, deception, duplicity and dunce One-Manism. My aim is to have genuine reformers join me in making SLPP an effective democratic organization to advance our national interests.
It is my view that the voters of Sierra Leone should know all of the above views in time prior to voting. That's the way of democracy. It has nothing to do with hatred.
Thank you for your attention. -JL
Subject: Re: A MUST-READ ANALYSIS OF SLPP'S LEADERSHIP
From: KAPU SENSE NOR KAPU WORD
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Date Posted: 13:28:56 04/13/07 ()
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For your information, Mr. Kabbah did not double-cross Dr.Joe Demby. He merely dropped him as his running mate for his second term.-- John Leigh
Lawyer Leigh, stop the double talk! Kabbah could have "dropped" as his running mate in a double-cross.
Subject: Re: A MUST-READ ANALYSIS OF SLPP'S LEADERSHIP
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 14:07:09 04/13/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Mr. KAPU..KAPU..:
President Kabbah's dropping of Dr. Demby as his 2nd term running mate was not a pleasant thing at all but the choice of picking one running mate rests with the party leader. Likewise, a sitting VP is free to resign or refuse re-election.
As double-cross is like what happened to PMDC hopefuls. Margai told them the criteria for the running mate position and asked those qualified to apply. They did only for him to surprise them with his choice of someone who never applied, who is not pmdc and who was an MP for another party.
At anyrate I do understand that people are not happy with the non-selection of Dr. Demby but that power of selection belongs to one single individual.
I also recognize your right to differ with me. Thank you. -JL
Subject: Re: A MUST-READ ANALYSIS OF SLPP'S LEADERSHIP
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 16:41:36 04/13/07 ()
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Mr. leigh your criticism of kabbah will not positively pay off. you are known to say things are come back tomeat them. I implore you to be tactful in your reasoning. You cannot continue to criticise someone and later kneel down to beg for forgiveness. I have always made it my pride not to criticise that which I know I will regret my words and then go back.. constructive criticism give you more respect even though you are feared for your truth. Understand that you were once a part of such and through your own fault you lost favour. Be calm and do things constructively using profound wisdom. Politics is a dirty and very nasty game. A good politician practices sceming, a Machiavellian archetype. I know I am not your advisor but would regret not telling you what i fel and think about your actions if something sgould happen. Have no fear but please use experience in dealing with issues pertaining to people you once worked with. Kabbah is treacherous!! I now call him my friend because he has passed a few tests these last nine months.
Subject: Re: A MUST-READ ANALYSIS OF SLPP'S LEADERSHIP
From: KAPU SENSE
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Date Posted: 14:48:43 04/13/07 ()
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You are wrong. A double-cross is what happens when a president stabs his faithful vice president in the back by giving his job to a killer from bumpe named Berewa. that's what yourvleader
president kabbah did.
Subject: Re: A MUST-READ ANALYSIS OF SLPP'S LEADERSHIP
From: 1AMIN KONDEH
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Date Posted: 11:32:08 04/13/07 ()
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John Leigh, not understanding what they read, no matter how simple, is a trademark of SLPP supporters, not me. So also is not knowing when they are talking about themselves -- and thinking they are referring to others. Check out your following claim which. like the one I analyzed, shows that you don't know when your funeral bell is tolling -- you think it is for someopne else.
You said "Here is a man who surrounded himself with crookish dumbo-tombos and opportunistic alphabet politicians yet he sought to mislead the public that he will fight corruption."
Mr. Leigh, you have just correctly desfribed your crookish leader, Kabbah, the diappointment!
That's what Kabbah did in 2002 -- he surrounded himself with crookish dumbo-tombos and opportunistic alphabet politicians like Solomon Berewa, Peter Tucker, Okere Adams, Alpha Wurie, Edmond Cowan, and he sought to mislead the public that he will fight corruption.
See, what I mean by saying you SLPP apologists are blind? You don;t even see your own leader when his corrupt immage is in front of you.
Subject: Re: A MUST-READ ANALYSIS OF SLPP'S LEADERSHIP
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 11:56:15 04/13/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Mr. Konneh:
You wrote:
"Mr. Leigh, you have just correctly desfribed your crookish leader, Kabbah, the diappointment!That's what Kabbah did in 2002 -- he surrounded himself with crookish dumbo-tombos and opportunistic alphabet politicians ....."
President Kabbah is not my leader. I am not describing him. I should know. I spent approx. three years publicly criticizing his administration.
And as you yourself pointed out in your earlier posting he did not want me in his 2nd term circle. I really did not fit in with his 2nd term plans. So I was taken out via recall. But no problem - it is his right and responsibility, not mine.
For your information, I am talking about the PMDC leadership.
"See, what I mean by saying you SLPP apologists are blind? You don;t even see your own leader when his corrupt immage is in front of you." -Lamin Konneh
Yah, but you have not seen what Mr. Margai saw. He left all the loyal people surrounding him and picked an SLPP backbencher instead. Why? He knew he was surrounded by loyal dombolos dumbo-tombo foolumunkus, remedials, dunces, flunkies, yes men, junior tribalists, hero worshippers, etc. So he left them in the cold in PMDC and abrutly went over to Mr. Kabbah's SLPP to pick his running mate from among SLPP's back bench.
You see what I saw? How about dem apples? Thank you. -JL
Subject: Re: A MUST-READ ANALYSIS OF SLPP'S LEADERSHIP
From: 1AMIN KONDEH
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Date Posted: 12:01:24 04/13/07 ()
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Mr. Leigh, forgive me, but I have to go to mass now -- to go pray for the dead slpp's soul.
I will be back shortly. Peace be with you (even if not with your slpp) until then!
Subject: Re: A MUST-READ ANALYSIS OF SLPP'S LEADERSHIP
From: concerned
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Date Posted: 12:14:05 04/13/07 ()
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More like your Break time is over and you have to get back to work....why una lek for lie so?
Subject: Re: A MUST-READ ANALYSIS OF SLPP'S LEADERSHIP
From: Cee Bah
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Date Posted: 11:06:49 04/13/07 ()
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You call this a must read analysis, whoever you are?
Man, standards have fallen.
Look at you blanket vague statements/question with such glaring fallacies. "Why are SLPP suporters so blind?"
I am no SLPP but excuse me, this piece is not a "must read analysis".It only reminds me of a typical headline in one of Salone's newspapers. Calling your attention to some screaming headline only for you to read and realise that it was just some really vague stuff.
Fair comments, sir/ma(since I don't know your identity)!
Subject: Re: A MUST-READ ANALYSIS OF SLPP'S LEADERSHIP
From: lAMIN kONNEH
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Date Posted: 11:36:58 04/13/07 ()
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Look at you blanket vague statements/question with such glaring fallacies. "Why are SLPP suporters so blind? -- Cee Bah
For your information "sir/ma(since I don't know your identity)!" the sentence you are referring to contains only a question. Not statements.
On top of that, my name is clearly shown in my posting. So what do you mean you don't know my identity? You see why I say you SLPP supporters are blind?
Subject: Re: A MUST-READ ANALYSIS OF SLPP'S LEADERSHIP
From: concerned
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Date Posted: 11:47:00 04/13/07 ()
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The man has told you he does not belong to any political party.. why do you always think anyone who does not support your political path/stands is SLPP.. what about APC, PUP, UPP, Craps....You PMDCers are unknowingly helping us in the SLPP by puting our name out there as the most popular, well organized and well financed party...
By the way tell charles Maggai mek e pay for de Navigator..you wan ride clean but you nor wan pay..
Subject: Re: A MUST-READ ANALYSIS OF SLPP'S LEADERSHIP
From: You PMDCers are unknowingly helping us in the SLPP by puting
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Date Posted: 11:56:02 04/13/07 ()
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You PMDCers are unknowingly helping us in the SLPP by puting our name out there as the most popular, well organized and well financed party..
See, Totapak, I told you to lay off the alcohol. it muddles what's left of your mind after 10 years of slpp brainwwashing!
when you sober up, you will see that the PMDC helps the people of Sa Lon by putting out there the Sa Lon state funds to campaign for the Bumpe Killer, Solomon BerewaLook). Then the people will see that the SLPP is the most ishonest, disorganized, party ... fit only for the funeral the people will hold on July 28, Inshallah!
Hoghohgohoho ha ho ha!
Subject: Re: A MUST-READ ANALYSIS OF SLPP'S LEADERSHIP
From: concerned
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I NEED MY MONEY...
Subject: Re: A MUST-READ ANALYSIS OF SLPP'S LEADERSHIP
From: charles
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Date Posted: 11:41:43 04/13/07 ()
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dis wan yah yone you get am....
Subject: Re: A MUST-READ ANALYSIS OF SLPP'S LEADERSHIP
From: lAMIN kONNEH
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Date Posted: 11:48:47 04/13/07 ()
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dis wan yah yone you get am.... -- charles
charles (Berewa), you mean ah get YOU!
Hahaha
Subject: Re: A MUST-READ ANALYSIS OF SLPP'S LEADERSHIP
From: concerned
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Date Posted: 11:50:52 04/13/07 ()
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bo true say talk me. thanks for the campaign. We( SLPP) will win come August 1....
By next week the PMDC will have two people in their NEC..charles Maggai and Tejan-Jalloh.
Subject: Re: A MUST-READ ANALYSIS OF SLPP'S LEADERSHIP
From: lAMIN kONNEH
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Date Posted: 11:58:52 04/13/07 ()
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okay, blind slpp supporter, true say talk me, you go drink da slpp coffeee by fose July 28. see you at the slpp funeral!
Subject: PMDC laughing their butt off!!!
From: Kingtom Boy
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Date Posted: 09:31:31 04/13/07 ()
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KK,
I hope your correspondent on the ground will have pictoral proof of the said defections. Contrary to your statement, I have proof (pictures & video) that the said "defectors" are school children who were given SLPP t-shirts and asked to assemble at the National Stadium for the such cheap publicity stunt.
All this talk of disintegration of the PMDC is only heard in cyberspace from you all who are computer politicians and are not even registered voters.
PMDC is laughing at you all in the background as you have fallen head on in their trap. Wait for their press releases (USA, UK, NL, SL) and see who laughs last.
BTW Karmoh Kabba is still the communication directors, what about that for starters...
BO SLPP WUNA LEF WE YAR...SHOW WE THE PICTURES OF THE DEFECTORS....
Subject: Re: PMDC laughing their butt off!!!
From: PMDC
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Date Posted: 10:02:35 04/13/07 ()
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This is not about the super journalist, Kabs Kanu, dont't try to change the subject, SLPP blind supporter! Kabs reported what he was told by SLPP sources. Kabs did not write that he saw any PMDC defectors.
You SLPP dumbos never understand what you read! No wonder you have messed up Sa Lone.
PMDC O Yeah! SLPP died the day the PMDC was born! All that's left to be done is to bury the corpse. The funeral will take place on June 28, 2007 in Sa Lone. Heheheheheheheahahahahahaha
Subject: Re: PMDC laughing their butt off!!!
From: concerned
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Infighting in the PMDc will not stop. Look where you are posting a follow up. Heheheheheheha ha ha.
Big DUMMY.
Subject: Re: PMDC laughing their butt off!!!
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Date Posted: 10:27:37 04/13/07 ()
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Where I post my follow-up has nothing to do with the message it contains, dummy!The fact that you read it, even if you still don't understand its significance, is proof, dummy!
To repeat, dummy, slpp died on the day the PMDC was born. See you at the slpp's funeral. mark youyr calendar for July 28! we go beat bata and drink dem coffee nar slpp dem berring! Hahahahahaheheheheheh ha ha ha!
Subject: Re: PMDC laughing their butt off!!!
From: Cee Bah
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Date Posted: 10:40:07 04/13/07 ()
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man, you look really excited. "SLPP died the day PMDC was born!"
Not even Charles margai, reputed for making over the moon statements like, he will pay salaries every two weeks, will make the chieftaincy democratic etc, would come out and utter such sensational and absolutely senseless statement.
Now trust me, if that is what you think, you are only a novice in the politics of our country still labouring under sensational illustions! Wake up and confront the political reality, which is the PMDC is as weak and even weaker than the SLPP. The only thing that differntiates them is that the SLPP is the source(you see the symbols) and PMDC is the off-shoot of the same set of people. Secondly, PMDC is also full of several disgruntled and excited indiviudals like yourself.
Once again, can you be decent in addressing people who counter your views. Why use dummy, dummy dummy? Man what is the positive change that you are preaching? Nor kos me ya!
Subject: Re: for CEE BAH!!!
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 08:15:10 04/14/07 ()
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Charles margai, reputed for making over the moon statements like, he will pay salaries every two weeks.
Cee Bah do you really consider paying salaries biweekly to be an over the moon statement. Of course my understanding of your use of the phrse "over the moon", means far fetched.
Subject: Re: for CEE BAH!!!
From: Cee Bah
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Date Posted: 18:06:28 04/14/07 ()
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Within our economic context, I think it is over the moon.
You can't promise people that when you come to power you will give them somthing that you know our economy can not currently support. This is what I meant.
Subject: Re: PMDC laughing their butt off!!!
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Date Posted: 10:46:02 04/13/07 ()
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Nay you don cuss yousef, pa. Di norshi norshi wae you write don pote you.
Now there are three SLPP dummies. And that's not an insult -- just the fact. Check out your dumb analysis and you will see why it is a fact. hahahahaheheheheheh ha ha ha!
Subject: Re: PMDC laughing their butt off!!!
From: Cee Bah
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Date Posted: 10:52:21 04/13/07 ()
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Grow up man,
This is expected to be a decent forum where you analyse issues constructively. Point out what is "dumb" in my analysis and let's take it on.
We will both learn and do justice to this forum.
Subject: Re: PMDC laughing their butt off!!!
From: PMDC
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Date Posted: 11:38:12 04/13/07 ()
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You learn? please, let's not get carried away!
Subject: Re: PMDC laughing their butt off!!!
From: concerned
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Date Posted: 10:37:42 04/13/07 ()
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use one handle bra. Una lef dis yuki yuki bizness...Is that how you plan to vote? Twice....
Subject: Re: PMDC laughing their butt off!!!
From: PMDC
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Date Posted: 10:41:16 04/13/07 ()
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stop trying to change the subject, dumb one. Tell me if you will join me to beat bata and drink coffee at your slpp funeral on July 28. Hahahahahahaheheheheheheheh!
Subject: Re: PMDC laughing their butt off!!!
From: concerned
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Date Posted: 10:50:29 04/13/07 ()
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No bo. I am not a coffee drinker...if you talk bout beer, hennessey, Nyak, den man go say una mean bizness.
But usai.. you PMDc leader can't pay his car note let alone celebrate in style when una loss de election on de 28th....
Subject: Re: PMDC laughing their butt off!!!
From: PMDC
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Date Posted: 11:46:32 04/13/07 ()
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Hey Tota pak slpp man, lay off that stuff. It makes you halucinate and start mistaking your slpp tiff-leaders with non-corrupt leaders like the PMDC leader.
Like I said, lay off the alcohol. try some slpp berring coffeee to sober up. then, after tyhe funeral, join the surviving P Subject: Re: PMDC laughing their butt off!!! Message: Subject: Re: PMDC laughing their butt off!!! Message: Subject: Re: PMDC laughing their butt off!!! Message: Subject: Re: PMDC laughing their butt off!!! Message: Barmie after all the noise way e make lost the elections, so e nor to executive member o. Subject: Re: PMDC laughing their butt off!!! Message: Subject: Re: PMDC laughing their butt off!!! Message: Subject: Re: PMDC laughing their butt off!!! Message: Subject: Re: PMDC laughing their butt off!!! Message: Subject: Re: PMDC laughing their butt off!!! Message: Subject: Re: PMDC laughing their butt off!!! Message: Subject: Re: PMDC laughing their butt off!!! Message: Subject: Re: Running Mate Dombolo Hits PMDC IN SIERRA LEONE Message: In Reply to: Re: Running Mate Dombolo Hits PMDC IN SIERRA LEONE posted by Independent Man on April 12, 2007 at 17:41:39: Behave Yourself. If you are not intelligent enough to debate, please keep quiet and let intelligent people debate. You might learn how to behave from them, even though that will not make you inteligent or untribalistic. That is what God has marked for you, rude, tribalistic man. It is your life sentence, in God's wisdom, for you to bear for he remainder of your rude, tribalistic life. Subject: Re: Running Mate Dombolo Hits PMDC IN SIERRA LEONE Message: Go take your medication so that you can return to your cleaning job and your cab-driving. Subject: Re: Running Mate Dombolo Hits PMDC IN SIERRA LEONE Message: Subject: Re: Running Mate Dombolo Hits PMDC IN SIERRA LEONE Message: Subject: Breaking News Message: Subject: Re: Breaking News Message: I hope your correspondent on the ground will have pictoral proof of the said defections. Contrary to your statement, I have proof (pictures & video) that the said "defectors" are school children who were given SLPP t-shirts and asked to assemble at the National Stadium for the such cheap publicity stunt. Subject: Re: Breaking News Message: I mentioned in one of my contributions yesterday, long before the breaking news came out that there would be massive fallouts and defections following Charlie's annoucement. I knew it was inevitable not because what Charlie did was wrong (that is not for me to say as i don't belong to his movement, or is it a party?), but becuause the very majority of those who constituted the PMDC are simply political opportunists. They thought, like their leader, that the party would stroll to power, now they know with the recent developments that that is far fetched. So they are going back home. We lack political principles and values. How shameful! John Leigh barks one day against Berewa, the other day, he claims the very Berewa is the best man to run the country. Margai is just the prototype of political inconsistency and lack of principle which is why people are running away from his party now. So you see, political turn-coating and opportunism is just the other of the day in Salone and as for margai, remember that "when you throw a ball against a wall, it bounces back, the harder you hit, the harder it bounces back at you". What an election, this promises to be! Subject: Re: Breaking News Message: Please try and be consistent in your reasoning. In this posting you wrote: "We lack political principles and values. How shameful! John Leigh barks one day against Berewa, the other day, he claims the very Berewa is the best man to run the country." - Cee Bah Well, you are wrong because I have principles and rely on them in deciding who to support. My principle is to support the best among a given lot. Its a comparative thing. So I support VP Berewa even though I criticized the current Kabbah Administration in an attempt to encourage it to change certain policies and practices. And I laid out exactly where I stood on the issues raised. I am not walking away from those criticisms at all. Further, you seemed to agree with me when you argued against Dr. Fanusi as follows: "Look, my point is that inasmuch as the current government might be accused of certain vices, the later alternatives are really no better. That for me is the summary of the sorry state of teh politics of Sierra Leone." - Cee Bah Again, please note that my supporting Mr. Berewa does not mean I have given up on my barking. No, I have not. Just that VP Berewa is a far superior choice than any of the presidential candidates and SLPP has a far better track record than marginalizers, poverty spreaders and Dombo-Tombo Dombolos. By the way, I understand you studied political science at FBC. When was this? Thank you. -JL Subject: Re: Breaking News Message: As a matter of fact, if you read my entries, you will realise that I have tried to maintain a very consistent position. The current government is not getting the job done. The opposition, lacks the credibility and can only do worse. I was here just citing an example of unprincipled politics which I know you agree with me is the order of the day in our country's politics. I did not mean it to attck you, I just said that you changed positions. A "corrupt man" can not possibly be the "fittest man" to run our country. We shoud all seek or provide an alternative to that instead of just supporting what I would refer to as the lesser of the evils. I remeber you were being urged to provide an alternative through your change Salone project/movement, when you lost the SLPP elections (I really then supported you at heart, because I don't belong to your party. Why did you not? I graduated from FBC only last year and I now work for UNFPA in New york. Subject: Re: Breaking News Message: My position is that, no matter the performance of the current SLPP Administration, VP Berewa is the "fittest" man to run the country among those currently vying for the presidency. Next, I have already stated that after Makeni, I traveled again and again extensively inside SLeone to evaluate the mood of the country. I came to the conclusion that the correct thing to do is Not to split my party but to support reforms from within instead and help make the party win the elections. Don't forget, Makeni was not all a complete loss. In my We Was Robbed post-Makeni report I made it plain that only certain aspects of Makeni were not to my liking. You may want to know that at Makeni two of the top party officials that organized the affair were defeated for re-election and those elected in their stead are reformers. Besides, in my experience it is far more responsible to support post-convention reconciliation and cooperation than cut and run and set up your own one-manic organization. Thank you. -JL Subject: Re: Breaking News Message: Just asking Subject: Re: Breaking News Message: Politics is simply a game of numbers. The weaker the opposition, the stronger you become. And as my profssor used to say, "three omolanke boys are better than a professor in an elections" If you were in Berewa's position, would you not have done the same? Subject: Re: Breaking News Message: Subject: Re: Breaking News Message: Subject: Re: Breaking News Message: Nar u borbor. How you dae do? You see what I have always said in this forum and in our discussions. The PMDC was on the highway and i always envisaged that it would crash and crash, it is doing now! Well, interesting times! Subject: Re: Breaking News Message: Subject: Re: Breaking News Message: Subject: Re: Breaking News Message: Subject: Re: Kabs on Breaking News Message: Subject: Re: Kabs on Breaking News Message: Just asking..... Subject: Re: For Ind.Man - Kabs on Breaking News Message: (2) Margai has vowed to investigate the current government (many who know him say he'll do just that) and that would be a huge step in the right direction of ending impunity as it pertains to malfeasant conduct among public officials. Berewa cannot investigate Kabba, much less himself. That's why they tried to immunize themselves from prosecution but that was never going to work. Ending impunity in our homeland and continent must not start and end with human rights atrocities but must also extend to acts of corruption that contribute to insecurity and mass poverty. On the selection of ITJ as running mate, I have heard nothing but good things about the man (I don't know him) and the fact that he was booted by Kabba is a badge of honor to some of us. Kabba's decisions have been disastrous for our country (he puts his interests ahead of country and party) and only kisser-uppers have had longevity in his cabinet. Opposition propaganda regarding CFM's alleged "implosion" and the PMDC's obituary are inventions of the two parties responsible for our country's ruination. The incumbent party is running scared and its operatives are working overtime to discredit Margai, whose warts surely do pale in comparison to Berewa's. Honest SLPP partisans acknowledge their party cannot win the north (they still hope Kambia, one of the most ethnically fragmented provinces in the north, will swing their way) and west and are engaged in a fight for their lives with the PMDC in the south and east (APC is very competitive in Kono). The numbers are just not there for Berewa in this election - his best chance is to make the run-off against Koroma of the APC, not the PMDC's Margai. He can trounce Koroma in second-round balloting but not Margai. This is because whereas APC partisans may be inclined to support the PMDC in a run-off against the SLPP, the bulk of PMDC supporters are more likely to opt for the SLPP in an APC-SLPP showdown. In short, APC loyalists tend to be more anti-SLPP than anti-PMDC while PMDC supporters are more anti-APC than anti-SLPP. I still believe the run-off will be between the PMDC and APC but assuming I am wrong, the best of the other two run-off scenarios for defeating Berewa and the SLPP is a PMDC-SLPP contest. Both PMDC-SLPP and PMDC-APC runoffs favor the PMDC because the latter can attract the support of any of the other two parties that fail to make it to the second round. The same cannot be said for the APC, nor can the SLPP count on APC support in a contest with the PMDC's Margai. Thus while the APC may have a good chance of making it to the second round of presidential balloting, its fortunes are likely to diminish rather significantly in the second round. That is why the PMDC stands a better chance of unseating the SLPP than the APC. Apologies for the digression. Subject: Re: Kabs on Breaking News Message: Don't we have other parties contesting the elections? You make it look like a two man show.... Subject: Re: Breaking News Message: Subject: Re: Breaking News Message: Here you go again demonstrating your political NAIVETE about SL's politics. Subject: Re: Breaking News Message: Subject: Re: Breaking News Message: Subject: Re: You have personal grudge against Mendes? Message: Subject: Re: You have personal grudge against Mendes? Message: Subject: Re: I Hate no One Anywhere! Message: You are both wrong about my motivation in opposing Mr. Margai. I really do not hate Mr. Margai or any other individual. My upbringing was very strict against harboring grudges or hatreds against anyone. Besides, I am far more handsome and wholesome in my politics than your man with that arrogant smirk on his face! And I don't give a damn about one's tribe. It is one's character that interests me. For your information, my beloved late older brother was half Sherbro! My problem with your hero is what I perceive as his over-ambition in light of his flunkey, under-achieving, undistinguished background. Yet, such a character had the gumption to seek to lead someone like Dr. James Jonah, the late Chief Sam Norman and myself in one go. He must have been really full of himself but I knew him only too well. You see, my younger brother met him in form four at CKC and left him there. They shared the same desk and I got an education from Fred and later from others during my own campaign run about the meager capabilities of the man some of you worship. Your man is not qualified to lead me at all - and never will. Yet he and his henchmen sought to double-cross the Third Force by rushing to secretly set-up his one-manic ownership PMDC, surrounded himself with alphabet-soup types and thereafter pushed me to the extreme of annoyance in their repeated failed attempts to rope me into their foolumunku cabal of dunces, flunkies and remedials. And when I refused and refused to deal with PMDC what was their reaction? I was pelted with their tsunamis of vituperations since March 1, 2006 - all to no avail. But I don't think PMDCers hate me. I think they hate my politics. In my opinion, your man is full of arrogance, deceit, deception, duplicity and double-cross. His dynastic entitlement mentality, his haughtiness and his disregard for the interests of others greatly upset many people. You just read Mr. Karamoh Kabba's letter of resignation. Your man's lack of analytical capability was palpable throughout his campaign run yet he had dombolo defenders in this forum singing his worthless praises and rudely insulting and attacking those who wish to engage in serious discourse under cover of chicken monikers. Here is a man who surrounded himself with crookish dumbo-tombos and opportunistic alphabet politicians yet he sought to mislead the public that he will fight corruption. How can you fight corruption when you harbor crookish politicians and tiff-tiff disbarred lawyers at the top echelon of your one-manic ownership party of foolumunkus and remedials? How can one lead effectively when his key tactic is double-crossing others? First, Third Force reformers were double-crossed via secretly setting-up his own privately-owned party, surrounding himself with dubious types then inviting well known dissenters to fall in place under his puelo self? The cheek! How can one effectively lead when one is frequently hip-hopping and flip-flopping from one party to another solely to gain a personal advantage? How can you lead effectively when, having agreed on the criteria for selecting your running mate and had invited your most loyal supporters who met the running mate criteria to submit their applications, and after they had faithfully submitted the requested applications, you suddenly turn your back on them and double-crossed them with a stupid kindergarten stunt? How can you lead effectively when you take a very smart and disciplined group of Sierra Leoneans for fools and opportunists by suddenly selecting one their kind for your running mate but only after you have publicly fooled and double-crossed your own people and only after you have had your henchmen harassed that very smart group of people to hinder their registration to vote for a new president and parliament? Why do you think you are smarter than Fullahs? Your big man is not a presidential material and it was this background that I sought to explain to good people who are looking for change but fell into PMDC propaganda of lies, deceit, deception, duplicity and dunce One-Manism. My aim is to have genuine reformers join me in making SLPP an effective democratic organization to advance our national interests. It is my view that the voters of Sierra Leone should know all of the above views in time prior to voting. That's the way of democracy. It has nothing to do with hatred. Thank you for your attention. -JL Subject: Re: I Hate no One Anywhere! Message: Hear this: What exactly is your politics? That you refer to Berewa as corrupt and unfit to be President and you now sing his praise for what everyone knows is because you want political position(s) in the next dispensation. Look, those who know me would tell you that I have always been saying most of the things you said about Margai as being true. I said these things on this forum long ago. But to face the truth, you guys are really not far apart in terms of credibility. I like the fact that you are more civilised, open and can be decent. But I have heard you say so many things that are also just illogical. I have heard you hopping up and down, changing positions etc. Don't use Margai's misery to portray yourself as some Prophet who is so clean... you know what I mean. Subject: Re: I Hate no One Anywhere! Message: 1. To support the candidate who in my opinion is the most superior among the lot even if he is not perfect and even if he is part of an administration I have criticized. 2. To provide facts for voter education. 3. Never to serve under someone with inferior credentials of achievements no matter how big his tribe. 4. Will not criticize my party's Government within 12 months to and after elections but the remaining three years is open season for criticizms from me. 5. Will criticize to seek intra-party reforms, not to cut and run. 6. Hold no hatred towards anyone. 7. Will not debate with certain people who are using chicken handles to insult and be rude. And so on. NOW the following: "But I have heard you say so many things that are also just illogical. I have heard you hopping up and down, changing positions etc." - Cee Bah Please give me some examples. Thank you. "Don't use Margai's misery to portray yourself as some Prophet who is so clean... you know what I mean." -Cee Bah. I do know what you mean. I am using Margai's alleged misery for nothing. I am not a Prophet and do not wish to be one. My politics is completely clean - the public interest comes first. Thank you. -JL Subject: Re: I Hate no One Anywhere! Message: John Leigh are you talking about your SLPP leaders, Kabbah and Berewa? Kabbah double-crossed Dr. Joe Demby and gave his job as VP to the Bumpe Killer, Solomon Berewa. He also double-crossed one John Leigh who had bribed him for his ambassadorship to the USA and gave Leigh's job to Berewa's protege, Ibrahim Kamara. Then Berewa double-crossed ambassador Kamara when earlier this year he gave Kamara's job to Berewa's partner in selling Sa Lon's embassies, Tejan Jalloh. Ah, John Leigh, den dae tol you bell, you dae ask oodat die! Why are SLPP suporters so blind? Subject: Re: I Hate no One Anywhere! Message: Mr. Kabbah did not double-cross Dr.Joe Demby. He merely dropped him as his running mate for his second term. It is the SLPP-leader's right just as it is the PMDC's leader's right to select his running mate. Next, President Kabbah did not double-cross me. He merely did not want me to be part of his second term. I recognize such as his absolute right to choose whomever he wishes for a presidential appointment. And I say the same for all my successors in DC. Lastly, I have never bribed anyone in my entire life and making campaign contributions to help one party is a proper thing to do, especially in a poverty-stricken country trying to be democratic. I salute whomsoever is footing the bill to promote PMDC. He/they has/have done good for Sierra Leone. Thank you. -JL Subject: Re: I Hate no One Anywhere! Message: Please give me some examples. JL, here is an example of your illogical sayings, thanks to Kapu sense Nor Kapu word: For your information, Mr. Kabbah did not double-cross Dr.Joe Demby. He merely dropped him as his running mate for his second term.-- John Leigh Lawyer Leigh, stop the double talk! Kabbah could have "dropped" Demby as his running mate in a double-cross. Therefore, just because he dropped him odes not mean he did not double-cross him. -- KAPU SENSE Next, President Kabbah did not double-cross me. He merely did not want me to be part of his second term. --John Leigh Mr. Leigh, Kabbah also could have dropped you in a double-cross. So, merely because he dropped ytou does not mean he did not do so in a a double-cross of you. Enough of this double-talk! Admit the truth so you would finally set yourself free, Leigh! -- KAPU SENSE NOW MR. LEIGH DO YOU SEE HOW ILLOGICAL YOU CAN BE IN YOUR FLIP-FLOPPING SUPPORT OF KABBAH & BEREWA'S CPORRUPT SLPP? Subject: Re: Goodbye Message: Mr. Referee and KAPU..KAPU..: President Kabbah's dropping of Dr. Demby as his 2nd term running mate was not a pleasant thing at all but the choice of picking one running mate rests with the party leader. Likewise, a sitting VP is free to resign or refuse re-election. As double-cross is like what happened to PMDC hopefuls. Margai told them the criteria for the running mate position and asked those qualified to apply. They did only for him to surprise them with his choice of someone who never applied, who is not pmdc and who was an MP for another party. At anyrate I do understand that people are not happy with the non-selection of Dr. Demby but that power of selection belongs to one single individual. Subject: Re: Goodbye Message: Subject: Re: I Hate no One Anywhere! Message: Lawyer Leigh, stop the double talk! Kabbah could have "dropped" Demby as his running mate in a double-cross. Therefore, just because he dropped him odes not mean he did not double-cross him. Next, President Kabbah did not double-cross me. He merely did not want me to be part of his second term. Mr. Leigh, Kabbah also could have dropped you in a double-cross. So, merely because he dropped ytou does not mean he did not do so in a a double-cross of you. Enough of this double-talk! Admit the truth so you would finally set yourself free, Leigh! Subject: Re: You have personal grudge against Mendes? Message: Subject: Re: You have personal grudge against Mendes? Message: Forgive him please, he just ran out of viagra. At 72, Dr. Fanusie don reach en waterloo. Em back all don bend, plus de baby way ee dae toat insie en borbor belle don confuse en brain. Fanusie, viagra don let you done? Subject: Re: You have personal grudge against Mendes? Message: Subject: Re: You have personal grudge against Mendes? Message: Subject: Re: You have personal grudge against Mendes? Message: you dont even know if he has a doctre Subject: Re: You have personal grudge against Mendes? Message: Subject: Re: You have personal grudge against Mendes? Message: Subject: Re: Breaking News Message: Subject: MEET YOUR DEPUTY MAYOR Message: Subject: Re: MEET YOUR DEPUTY MAYOR Message: Subject: Re: MEET YOUR DEPUTY MAYOR Message: Subject: Re: MEET YOUR DEPUTY MAYOR Message: He has been ineffective in the city council. What a damn shame! Subject: PLEASE HELP Message: Bank: Bank of America Account #: 2957967097 Type of ACCT: Checking Joshua M Sulaiman Subject: Political Pathologists-Knice-leigh-kelfala Message: Subject: Re: Political Pathologists-Knice-leigh-kelfala Message: Subject: Re: Political Pathologists-Knice-leigh-kelfala Message: AcP/ApC yesterday and today cannot convince us that change will come under their new guise. Sir Yayah, why Acp/ApC? Of what benefit to the national agenda? Subject: Re: Political Pathologists-Knice-leigh-kelfala Message: Winston dont make statements that you know nothing about. Our contributions if any are not based on party affiliations, they are based on NATIONAL pride which you in the SLPP would rather sell for Kokoe ebbeh. So now you tell me the names of slpp people who have gone to sa lone to create jobs for their people and n what categories. unar lef dis we do dis unar nor do dat syndrome. Your party is a failure. Subject: Re: Political Pathologists-Knice-leigh-kelfala Message: Subject: Re: Political Pathologists-Knice-leigh-kelfala Message: Is it a "newness" of personel? I bet you have forgotten that Victor Foh(vouchergate) is at the helm of the party, that you still have old names like Birch, Smith and a host of others at in influentail positions all waiting to gain political power so that they can be reinstated to their corrupt and rich statuses that they used to enjoy. Is is a newness of strategy? I mean would you argue that these guys are born again? Well, i don't think so. Take soem time and read the details of what they were/are in court for. Manipulating constitution for a certain Koroma's advantage, excluding others illegally....the list I am sure you are familiar with. Look, my point is that inasmuch as the current government might be accused of certain vices, the later alternatives are really no better. That for me is the summary of the sorry state of teh politics of Sierra Leone. Subject: Re: Political Pathologists-Knice-leigh-kelfala Message: Chez = at, to, the house of, the place of; winakabs: Europe = my place of la ou je suis bien - en Europe I am outspoken but not a braggart. What my right hand does my left hand would never know. I told you about paying my fees because I wanted to show how many young minds suffered as a result of statal neglect for its future potential leaders, policy makers, etc. I am now in my forties (few months over 40). My colleagues from other parts of the world are running major institutions in their countries. Why is that? Their countries value them and need them for their national agenda - every nation need not neglect their young be they form their bossom or not for these young will be the elders tomorrow. You refuse to admit that there was some oversight by the APC in mapping out strategies for the potential leaders, policy makers, and administrators of today's Sierra Leone. Why do you think there is this big generaional gap? Okay some of the trouble makers have gone but there arestill some among us who do not understand that a nation that does not prepare itself for tomorrow's governance is doomed. Every official I see or hear around is hopelessly a scrounger! Where do they take their money? About what I have done? I implore you to allow me to reserve that without prejudice. I have tremendous respect for what you are doing. i pray some of us will have the time to commit ouselves. Sir Yayah, ApC is not yet ready to help Sierra Leone. There are a lot f hungry people in the upper chain. until they can help themselves, they are incapable of helping change in Sierra Leone. Subject: Re: Political Pathologists-Knice-leigh-kelfala Message: Subject: Response for Charles Message: Charles thank you for your response. I want to make it crystal clear here that my interest is paramountcy on the future of Sierra Leone and no single individual nor party. I can assure you that I cannot boast, particularly at this material time, of any Sierra Leonean defense nor blessing but God Almighty and the discipline that my father and mother, together with elderly Sierra Leoneans who distilled in me the ability to love even when not loved, to change and contribute towards change even when not appreciated, to care even when not cared for, to be true to myself and to love my country unequivocally . Therefore, it is explicitly clear that I am not trying to serve as a mouth piece for the A.P.C. government nor party nor any other government nor party, and thank you for the expose of maturity in not making implicit suggestions that this was or is my motive. I am clearing the air because I have been attacked here with respect to such indications. Subject: Re: Response for Charles Message: Subject: Final Blow Message: Subject: THIS DAY IN LIBERIAN HISTORY Message: Somewhat ironically for Liberia, the Americo-Liberians, the people who returned to Liberia with the motto "The Love of Liberty Brought Us Here," ruled Liberia with a political crudity marked by oppression and disdain for "country" {native} Liberians. Subject: Re: THIS DAY IN LIBERIAN HISTORY Message: Rumor had it that president Tolbert was in the bathroom taking a shower when Samuel Doe struck. It was also said that Samuel Doe killed his fellow guardsmen before making a clean way to where the president and his family were located. Could someone please enlighten us about what really happened on that fateful morning? Subject: Re: THIS DAY IN LIBERIAN HISTORY Message: Subject: Wolfowitz sorry for hiring 'mistake' Message: His apology didn't ease concerns among the bank's staff association, which wants him to resign. The growing controversy has overshadowed major development meetings this weekend and is raising fresh questions about whether Wolfowitz will stay on the job. At issue are the generous compensation and pay raises of a bank employee, Shaha Riza, who has dated Wolfowitz. She was given an assignment at the State Department in September 2005, shortly after he became bank president. "In hindsight I wish I had trusted my original instincts and kept myself out of the negotiations," Wolfowitz said. "I made a mistake, for which I am sorry." The World Bank Group Staff Association is demanding that Wolfowitz step down. "The president must acknowledge that his conduct has compromised the integrity and effectiveness of the World Bank Group and has destroyed the staff's trust in his leadership," the association said Thursday. "He must act honorably and resign." Wolfowitz said he met Thursday morning with the World Bank's board and that members were looking into the matter. He declined to discuss what actions, if any, the board could take. "I proposed to the board that they establish some mechanism to judge whether the agreement reached was a reasonable outcome," he said, referring to Riza's transfer. "I will accept any remedies they propose." Wolfowitz dodged a question about whether he would resign over the flap. "I cannot speculate on what the board is going to decide," he said. A World Bank spokeswoman would not comment on what range of options the board could consider or when it would finish its deliberations. Timothy Adams, the Treasury Department's undersecretary for international affairs, declined to say whether or not the United States — the bank's largest shareholder — continues to support Wolfowitz's presidency. Adams said the prudent course of action was to let the board handle the matter. "There is a mechanism in place," he said. As to Wolfowitz's apology, Adams said: "I appreciated the words he put forward." The Government Accountability Project, a watchdog group, estimated Riza's salary at $193,590 as a result of the job transfer and pay raises. The group says she was paid by the World Bank and remains on the bank's payroll. The World Bank would not comment on Riza's compensation, citing confidentiality concerns. "I take full responsibility for the details," of the job transfer, Wolfowitz said. "I did not attempt to hide my actions nor make anyone else responsible," he said. The job change was made, he said, to avoid a conflict of interest when he took his post at the World Bank, where Riza already worked. World Bank rules bar employees from supervising anyone with whom they had a personal relationship. "I took the issue to the Ethics Committee and after extensive discussions ... the committee's advice was to promote and relocate Ms. Shaha Riza," Wolfowitz said. "I made a good faith effort to implement my understanding of that advice," he explained. Riza worked as a communications adviser in the bank's Middle East Department before she was detailed to the job at the State Department. The State Department says Riza left in September 2006 and now works for Foundation for the Future, an international organization that gets some money from the department. The World Bank's stated mission is to fight poverty and improve the living standards of people in developing countries. It lends about $20 billion a year for various projects. Wolfowitz — who took the bank's helm on June 1, 2005 — asked for "some understanding" of his position in the controversy. "Not only was this a painful personal dilemma, but I also had to deal with it when I was new to this institution, and I was trying to navigate uncharted waters," he said. Subject: Re: Wolfowitz sorry for hiring 'mistake' Message: Subject: Re: Wolfowitz sorry for hiring 'mistake' Message: Subject: Ngor Charles Margai, "Bomba" Without Number! Message: This whole vehicle saga comes as a bit of a shock. When we saw Mr Margai using the Lincoln Navigator for the first time, some of his ardent supporters informed us – and with a lot of gusto – that it was a present from one of his supporters, a BOMBA in the United States. His supporters also boasted that minus supporters, their leader was a Bomba in his own right and could afford to pay for the vehicle. It now appears that we were being deceived as usual by the PMDC propaganda machine: no “benevolent” American BOMBA had bought a vehicle for him and Mr Margai is a BOMBA WITHOUT NUMBER! In another but related matter, there is a strong rumour that after the PMDC convention in Bo last month several delegates left their guest houses stealthily – either at night or before daybreak – and returned to Freetown without paying their bills. The rumour is yet to be confirmed. As Charles Margai is aspiring to become President of Sierra Leone, his comportment and reputation are of concern to the citizenry. The air has to be cleared: Is it true that Charles Margai has not paid in full for the Lincoln Navigator in question and that he has been dodging Ms Musa? Is it true that the matter is being investigated by the police? Should the demeanour of a Presidential aspirant not be beyond reproach? Is it true that this whole saga is a profound embarrassment to the PMDC leadership? Is it true that several PMDC delegates to the Bo Convention did not pay their guest house bills? Subject: Re: Ngor Charles Margai, "Bomba" Without Number! Message: Subject: Re: Ngor Charles Margai, "Bomba" Without Number! Message: Subject: Re: Ngor Charles Margai, "Bomba" Without Number! Message: Subject: Re: Ngor Charles Margai, "Bomba" Without Number! Message: Anyway, I am always careful to jump into conclusion on stories emanating from Salone papers. i kno we have quality journalists who make attempts to be impartial and all of that, but in as much as I have always pointed out Mr Margai's inconsistencies as too numerous to land him the top job, urge us all to listen to his side on this and get the real facts. Then the missiles can start flowing! Subject: WHAT IS MARGAI'S AGENDA? Message: Subject: Re: WHAT IS MARGAI'S AGENDA? Message: No one can deny that PMDC is currently going through problems. Margai did not suprise me and for that matter those of us who have been following him. He is simply in his own words a "benevolent dictator" who thinks that he knows more than every one else and just does not care about the views of people around him. Shakespeare says, lowliness is young ambition's ladder. Margai is just not and that is why he failed to secure the top spot in the SLPP. It is clear that with some high profile resignations and fallouts to follow in the coming months, he is defintely going to fail to secure the topspot inthe country. you see guys, we lack a political alternative in Sierra leone. how sad! Subject: Re: WHAT IS MARGAI'S AGENDA? Message: Subject: Re: WHAT IS MARGAI'S AGENDA? Message: Every leaders potential is determined by the people closest to him - THE INNER CIRCLE. If margai begins to cheat or disrespects the views of his comrades in arms, aspersions will surface. We are not building any mountains we are merely echoing what we already know about mr. margai. Subject: Re: WHAT IS MARGAI'S AGENDA? Message: Subject: MABESSENEH HOSPITAL IN SIERRA LEONE CELEBRATES 40 YEARS OF E Message: MABESSENEH HOSPITAL CELEBRATES 40 YEARS OF EXISTENCE WITH A NURSING SCHOOL PROJECT Lunsar, March, 16, 07 (MOHS) – A Nursing school project amounting to millions of leones has been launched by the St. John of God Catholic Hospital at Mabesseneh, Lunsar in the Port Loko District. The school is expected to commence in October this year after accreditation from the Nurses and Midwives Board of Sierra Leone. Subject: Liberia: Lassa Fever Returns As Health Sector Crumbles Message: Print This Page April 12, 2007 Monrovia Liberia's almost non-existent health and sanitation infrastructure was again brought into sharp focus this week as officials confirmed that Lassa fever, a virus transmitted by rats usually found in areas with poor sanitation, is endemic for the second time in six months in three Liberian counties. Liberia, which experienced a devastating 14-year civil war that ended in 2003, last registered Lassa fever outbreaks in September, mostly in Nimba County. Health officials said at the time they did not have the capacity to diagnose or treat the deadly disease but the outbreak ended after the Chinese Embassy stepped in with funds for medicines and testing kits. "We are very concerned about the active circulation of Lassa fever and are now putting in place mechanisms to deal with the disease, especially in the affected areas," Wesseh said She said five people suspected of having the disease died, but health authorities had not confirmed whether the cause of death was Lassa. Some 21 suspected cases have been reported but only 13 were confirmed, and those who were currently infected with Lassa were being given medication, she said. Lassa is a viral haemorrhagic fever known to be endemic in Liberia, Guinea, Sierra Leone and parts of Nigeria. It probably exists in other West African countries as well, according to the World Health Organisation (WHO). Humans become infected with Lassa from contact with infected rodents. The virus can also be transmitted from one human to another through direct contact with body fluids. Rural dwellers, especially those living in areas of poor sanitation or crowded living conditions, are at greatest risk of contracting the illness, WHO says. The UN this week appealed for an additional US$117 million in donor assistance for Liberia to help rebuild basic social services. It estimated that 70 percent of health facilities in the country were still being run by international nongovernmental organisations. Subject: Peter Tucker amendments want office of Attorney General and Message: The proposed amendments to the constitution which were unveiled last Thursday by the Chairman of the Constitutional Review Committee Dr Peter Tucker are suggesting a separation of the office of Attorney General from the Minister of Justice. Speaking to Awoko Dr Tucker explained that the rationale for this is “ we still believe that in the interest of manifest justice – justice seen to be done, the Attorney General who is the government legal adviser and sometimes prosecutor should not also be the boss of the judiciary; he should be an advocate appearing before them to advocate but he cannot turn round after court – he loses in court he goes to chambers and he is their boss, we think this might create problems and we know from the past that it has created problem between the Chief Justice and the Attorney General and Minister of Justice. Also he said “there is a development now in Britain where people are trying to create a Ministry of Justice so as to separate it from the government’s legal advisers and prosecutors – we want to be modern in this respect.” On the question if there is a change in government whether he thinks the succeeding government will go ahead with the elections, Dr Tucker said “the political parties are all represented in this commission so I imagine that if any of them who wins if they are advised that it was good the amendments are good and reasonable I suppose they will go ahead with it.” “The only fear I have” he added “is if a new government comes it has so many things to do that it may not concentrate its attention on an amendment of the constitution, and don’t forget that every change to the constitution which enhances the democratic process creates a bit of discomfort for those in power – because you know democracy is difficult therefore they may not they may say thank God we have a constitution let’s go on with this one so I’m not sure it depends on who wins. Subject: APC learn from SLPP Message: Subject: Re: APC learn from SLPP Message: Subject: COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR Message: Fellow PMDCers: Subject: Re: COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR Message: Subject: Re: COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR Message: Subject: kanji daramy VS Massaquoi you decide Message: Subject: Re: kanji daramy VS Massaquoi you decide Message: Subject: Re: kanji daramy VS Massaquoi you decide Message: all jokes aside, it was Massaquoi who first wrote Kabbah that Kanji refused him a job because he Kanji his jealous of him. He said that Kanji told him that mende people want to take all the jobs in the country. Check Standard times for Massaquoi's letter to Kabbah. Subject: Re: kanji daramy VS Massaquoi you decide Message: Are you going to take me to tooooo crassssse yard today? Subject: Re: kanji daramy VS Massaquoi you decide Message: I think that Kanja did the right thing, considering the cricumstances. You have to understand that our country is very gullible and issues relating to enthnicity in an election period are even more so sensitive. It is like accusing someone here in New York of racism. They would go out to the public to try and proov their point. Because Massaquoi who is an educated man had chosen to elicit all the publicity around the case by going to the press, Kanja had no option but to clear the air and I think he has presented his own case. i don't know the details of the allegations and counter allegations between them but remember that anyone who lives in a glass house must think twice before throwing stones! let the truth be revealed in the eyes of the public and please note that Kanji, is not a minister, he is chairman of a government commission. Subject: Re: kanji daramy VS Massaquoi you decide Message: I understand your points and feel obliged to suggest that we learn from such and not to set such a precedent. Let there be some independent office that the government complains to and the people complain to. let authorities be what they are and not like the disgruntled ordinary man. massaquoi may have been unwisely advised and now his whole life is in tatters for his silliness. Her has suffered twice because of our lack of understanding difficult people. Let me tell you what happened to me on this forum some days ago. i was posting using an assumed handle. Some guy or guys decided to blow my cover and started blasting my name everytime I post with this handle. i went on for about two weeks but then decided to come out and explain why i did it. I had the right to confront the administrators of the forum but I chose not to. i asked questions but no answer. I left it - the conscience works. The moral is that kanja had the stake and the disgruntled element massaquoi is not able to discredit kanja for kanja had the evidence. The evidence he presented for the whole world to see. Coming from a superior is unthinkable!! Subject: Re: kanji daramy VS Massaquoi you decide Message: Subject: Re: kanji daramy VS Massaquoi you decide Message: Subject: Re: kanji daramy VS Massaquoi you decide Message: Subject: Re: kanji daramy VS Massaquoi you decide Message: To the best of my knowledge, President Kabbah has not claimed that he has a Ph.D. degree. Some people use the "Dr." prefix when addressing or writing to him but that is because he was awarded an honorary doctorate degree years ago by University of Sierra Leone. In Western societies, honoray doctorate awardees discourage people from addressing then as "Dr." Those honors are mostly for decorating their dens but I suspect the custom is slightly different in Africa. For your information, the late President Stevens was the first SLeone Head of State/Government to receive a similar honorary degree from the same institution. You remember the old anti-Stevens' joke - "Doctah by sahbahbou"? There was also a move at the University to award NPRC's Capt. Strasser a doctorate. But the attempt was squelched as going too far. Subject: Re: kanji daramy VS Massaquoi you decide Message: Subject: Re: kanji daramy VS Massaquoi you decide Message: How are you doing, buddy? Have you finished the second sets of meds/ See you in kissy later this evening. Subject: Re: kanji daramy VS Massaquoi you decide Message: Subject: Re: kanji daramy VS Massaquoi you decide Message: Subject: Re: kanji daramy VS Massaquoi you decide Message: Subject: Re: kanji daramy VS Massaquoi you decide Message: Subject: Re: kanji daramy VS Massaquoi you decide Message: Subject: Re: kanji daramy VS Massaquoi you decide Message: Do you know whether he can under sierra leonean law Subject: Re: kanji daramy VS Massaquoi you decide Message: UK is the same, you cannot lie. If caught, means the end of your employment. This issue has happened, I am merely suggesting that this precendence is a recipe for a abuse of authority. That authorities should not bring themselves to the level of the types of massaquoi's issue. They only have to answer to a query from an appropriate body. Subject: Re: kanji daramy VS Massaquoi you decide Message: Subject: Re: kanji daramy VS Massaquoi you decide Message: Subject: Re: kanji daramy VS Massaquoi you decide Message: How can that be going too far when Siaka Stevens had been awarded a similar degree?Strasser finished secondary school; Stevens did not. As usual, you make no sense, John Leigh. My advice is to stick to lie-lie two-mot about your new leader, Solo Berewa's flip-flop conbenation turned to convention, according to you the King Flip-Flopper. Subject: Re: kanji daramy VS Massaquoi you decide Message: Subject: ANOTHER WAR IN THE MAKING: BEWARE Message: Subscribers note: Those who are blinded by party loyalty would tend to dismiss this, but as Sierra Leoneans it is our place to call on the government to treat this issue seriously. The 11 yrs war did not discriminate..that should serve as a reminder. No more shall we allow a handful of people of put a nation at risk for their own selfishness. APC treated the RUF insurrection as a faceless rumour. Hope SLPP wouldn't treat it as a useless political propaganda.Investigate and clamp down heavily on perpetrators. We no longer need another armed group irrespective of whom they serve. Subject: TO N'FAR KARAMOH KABBA Message: I told you before to take it easy on this PMDC business. Never put your entire life and credibility on the line for any salone politician. You have gone through a lot just for this man, and you see how he has treated those of you who stand for honesty? Karmor, you are a man of integrity, and you have worked hard to be where you are today. Please do not allow Charles, or any other PMDC pepper bird or any other politician in salone to use and abuse you. I hope you have finally learnt your lesson. Good luck to you, and may you continue to see the light. Subject: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US Message: Thank you very much. Albert Moinina Subject: Re: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US Message: Subject: Re: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US Message: Not only the above, but also information about the constitution-writing and adoption processes. Was it a one man show? Was it public or secret? Was it collegial or one-manic? -JL Subject: Re: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US Message: The oinly thing that matters is that it was not a CONBENTION. So, SLPP lick-my-spit supporters should be asking questions about their leader Berewa's crooked coronation at the crooked conbention, not about the PMDC wose convention was not a conbention. Charity begins at home, O Hypocrites in the hypocritical SLPP. Subject: Re: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US Message: PMDC was a mistake and those that supported its inception should however, be respected. it was not properly thought through. it was also untimely. i will say it moved a lot of impetuous 'decent' SLPP folks. All the same, guys, we are brothers - COME BACK TO US NO HARM DONE - YOU STOOD YOUR GROUND THAT HAD NO LONGLASTING FOUNDATION. margai is not a leader - he needs the blessings of the common man whose interest is to see a better Sierra leone. take heart as my love goes to all of you my brothers and sisters in the dinosaurian PMDC. Charlie Boy - you have not started and you are cracking up. Go back and talk to your brothers - they understand your ambition psychotic tantrums. Stay blessed!! Subject: Re: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US Message: Me too say charity begins at home. talk about your dictator Berewa and his dictator godfather Kabbah. the PMDC is democratic, not a one-man dictatatorship like Berewa's slpp/ Subject: Re: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US Message: The issue with my party is solved. I know Berewa will not plunge us into a constructive chaos. I believe he dreams well for his family and the people of Sierra leone. He is not a fool like my friend who allowed his juniors to taint and obstruct his vision for a better Sierra leone. All the same, my friend in the last year has changed - may god continue to help him and protect him from the evil machinations of corrupt junior officials. I have confiedence that berewa will not let us down - his past is nso solemn that he would want to leave behind a legacy incomparable. Subject: Re: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US Message: The issue is is the selection of a presidential candidate -- berewa -- through the crookedness of a conbention. Address that issue please. Subject: Re: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US Message: The Convention was fair. Subject: Re: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US Message: The issue is: did he then criticize Makeni only to secretly repeat the same Swiss Cheese Constitution in PMDC and fool unsuspecting believers into joining under his one-manic leadership? These are important issues for genuine democratic discussion and nothing to get annoyed about. Serious-minded people who wish to engage in genuine debate in this forum will not allow rudeness to cause their postings to be ignored and unresponded to. Please let us all live up to the good intentions of the founders of this forum. Thank you very much. -JL Subject: Re: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US Message: Subject: Re: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US Message: Otherwise, goodbye. - JL Subject: Re: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US Message: Subject: Re: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US Message: Subject: Re: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US Message: Yes, we are: That would be the SLPP's Solo Berewa. The charity in question is John Leigh's. The lack of democracy is the conbention Leigh told us about that crowned crooked Berewa over Leigh the naive investor in crooked Kabbah's slpp. Subject: Re: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US Message: There is a time for levity and there is a time for utter seriousness! Those with access to Mr. Margai or privy to his thinking behind the way he handled the running mate issue ought to help educate other forumites on this critical decision which seems to be in harmony with what PMDC-Margai critics have been saying from Day One. Now is thus the time for PMDC-Margai supporters in the know to counter this widely-held conclusion and thus move the contest forward. No doubt, this is what the organizers of this facility probably had in mind - in situations such as the PMDC running mate matter that Mr. Moinina has now conscientiously raised - when they first set-up this forum for our benefit. Those who wish to be rude and insulting ought to make their contributions under their true name or they may withold their postings. The situation within the PMDC is now at a make-or-break point and serious-minded people ought to be allowed to explore such an important matter in a spirit of genuine deliberation. I hereby salute Mr. Moinina for courageously raising this matter publicly and in a timely manner. Apart from the seriousness of the matter he raised, Mr. Moinia deserves our respect and cooperation for his additional contributions. First, he did not rush into it and (ii) he has worked conscientiously and tirelessly at his own time and expense to promote and defend his party, PMDC, and Mr. Margai despite repeated, relentless saturation bombardment from several quarters. Thank you very much. -JL Subject: Re: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US Message: The name Charles Margai alone brings a lot of supporters to my party. Charles Margai is PMDC and PMDC is Charles Margai. I will not tolerate rudeness from individuals whose only claim to the political landscape is through my family name. Subject: Re: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US Message: Subject: Re: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US Message: Subject: Re: UNCLE CORN : MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US Message: Welcome back, Cornelius. If there are problems, please let us know.The moderator said he did not block you and I believe him. I did not so the problem you had did not come from our end. Subject: Re: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US Message: Subject: Re: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US Message: Subject: Re: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US Message: Subject: Re: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US-- The rise and Fall of PMD Message: Subject: Re: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US-- CORRECTION-ACHEBE Message: Subject: Re: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US-- CORRECTION-ACHEBE Message: Subject: Re: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US-- CORRECTION-ACHEBE Message: Subject: Re: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US-- CORRECTION-ACHEBE Message: Subject: Re: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US-- CORRECTION-ACHEBE Message: Subject: Re: MARGAI NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO US-- CORRECTION-ACHEBE Message: Subject: Running Mate Dombolo Hits PMDC IN SIERRA LEONE Message: Subject: So you guys only supported PMDC for POSITION! Message: Subject: Re: So you guys only supported PMDC for POSITION! Message: Subject: Re: Running Mate Dombolo Hits PMDC IN SIERRA LEONE Message: THOSE LOOKING FOR SO-CALLED EVIDENCE OF DICTATORSHIP & INCOMPETENCE.....THIS IS IT ROTMAFLAO Subject: Re: Running Mate Dombolo Hits PMDC IN SIERRA LEONE Message: We already know that. The PMDC is engaged in a healthy internal debate where evidence is presented before being asked for. Not rudeness, your own trademark from a very unbrought up unbringing. Go correct your corrupt SLPP leadership'dictatorial imposition of the dumb Berewa as your SLPP last-gasp leader. Let the PMDC display democracy in action within their ranks by engaging in their internal debate. At least their leader doesn't retaliate against those who honestly disagree with him. Like the dictator Solomon Berewa did when he sacked Finance minister JB Dauda for not supporting his coronation at the SLPP ConBention. Go clean your dirty stable called SLPP. Leave the democratic PMDC alone. Better still go cure yourself of your rudeness. babybob Subject: Re: Running Mate Dombolo Hits PMDC IN SIERRA LEONE Message: Subject: Re: Running Mate Dombolo Hits PMDC IN SIERRA LEONE Message: You sound like a dumb ass!!! Subject: Re: Running Mate Dombolo Hits PMDC IN SIERRA LEONE Message: That is what God has marked for you, rude, tribalistic man. It is your life sentence, in God's wisdom, for you to bear for he remainder of your rude, tribalistic life. Subject: Re: Running Mate Dombolo Hits PMDC IN SIERRA LEONE Message: You referring to yourself as intelligent is laughable. You must be off the meds that Dr. Nahim prescribed for you....Morfor Subject: Re: Running Mate Dombolo Hits PMDC IN SIERRA LEONE Message: Subject: Re: Running Mate Dombolo Hits PMDC IN SIERRA LEONE Message: Subject: TO WASCALLEH Message: Subject: Re: TO WASCALLEH Message: Subject: Re: TO WASCALLEH Message: Subject: Re: TO WASCALLEH Message: Subject: Funeral Arrangements for Nasiru Koker Message: His funeral is scheduled for April 21st 2007 in Philadelphia. Nasiru passed on without any Insurance or other financial security. I have just spoken to his sister Lilian and she has asked me to make a plea for donations for his funeral. please send all donations to the following address: Ms Lilian Koker Lilian can be reached at the following numbers Time is of the essence with regards to sending your donations in. Please make all cjhecks and money orders payable to Ms. Lilian Koker and Notate all checks as "Butrial of Nasiru Koker" Subject: Re: Funeral Arrangements for Nasiru Koker Message: Subject: Re: Funeral Arrangements for Nasiru Koker Message: Subject: Re: FROM TEGLOMA NORTHERN CALIFORNIA Message: Nasiru Koker, brother of Lillian Koker of Tegloma Northern passed away on Tuesday, the 3rd. of April, 2007 in Philadelphia. Nasiru did not have life insurance or medical insurance. The sister, Lillian will need help to bury her brother. On behalf of Lillian, we are asking for donations to help towards the medical bills and funeral arrangements. Every little thing will be appreciated at this sad moment. Let us rally behind our sister at this critical time. The plan for burial is set for April 21st. 2007 provided funds are available. For further information, please contact Miss Lillian Koker at: Lillian Koker 10338 Sagres EL Grove, Ca. 95757 408-509-6105 Cell 916-685-0078 Home Joshua M Sulaiman Subject: FOOD FOR THOUGHT Message: Subject: PMDC FALLING APART Message: PMDC reached a decision to make Tombo Bangura their running mate, but Margai went ahead and named Jalloh, even though he had told the entire membership that Tombo Bangs was his choice. Party members are not impressed at all, including yours truly. Other PMDC fanatics are calling for peace and understanding for the betterment of our party. We all thought that the SLPP was the only one that had running mate problems, but my party PMDC is now in a big mess. Subject: SHOULD WE BE MAD AT IMUS? Message: Imus isn’t the real bad guy Thank you, Don Imus. You’ve given us (black people) an excuse to avoid our real problem. You’ve given Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson another opportunity to pretend that the old fight, which is now the safe and lucrative fight, is still the most important fight in our push for true economic and social equality. You’ve given Vivian Stringer and Rutgers the chance to hold a nationally televised recruiting celebration expertly disguised as a news conference to respond to your poor attempt at humor. Thank you, Don Imus. You extended Black History Month to April, and we can once again wallow in victimhood, protest like it’s 1965 and delude ourselves into believing that fixing your hatred is more necessary than eradicating our self-hatred. The bigots win again. While we’re fixated on a bad joke cracked by an irrelevant, bad shock jock, I’m sure at least one of the marvelous young women on the Rutgers basketball team is somewhere snapping her fingers to the beat of 50 Cent’s or Snoop Dogg’s or Young Jeezy’s latest ode glorifying nappy-headed pimps and hos. I ain’t saying Jesse, Al and Vivian are gold-diggas, but they don’t have the heart to mount a legitimate campaign against the real black-folk killas. It is us. At this time, we are our own worst enemies. We have allowed our youths to buy into a culture (hip hop) that has been perverted, corrupted and overtaken by prison culture. The music, attitude and behavior expressed in this culture is anti-black, anti-education, demeaning, self-destructive, pro-drug dealing and violent. Rather than confront this heinous enemy from within, we sit back and wait for someone like Imus to have a slip of the tongue and make the mistake of repeating the things we say about ourselves. It’s embarrassing. Dave Chappelle was offered $50 million to make racially insensitive jokes about black and white people on TV. He was hailed as a genius. Black comedians routinely crack jokes about white and black people, and we all laugh out loud. I’m no Don Imus apologist. He and his tiny companion Mike Lupica blasted me after I fell out with ESPN. Imus is a hack. But, in my view, he didn’t do anything outside the norm for shock jocks and comedians. He also offered an apology. That should’ve been the end of this whole affair. Instead, it’s only the beginning. It’s an opportunity for Stringer, Jackson and Sharpton to step on victim platforms and elevate themselves and their agenda$. I watched the Rutgers news conference and was ashamed. Martin Luther King Jr. spoke for eight minutes in 1963 at the March on Washington. At the time, black people could be lynched and denied fundamental rights with little thought. With the comments of a talk-show host most of her players had never heard of before last week serving as her excuse, Vivian Stringer rambled on for 30 minutes about the amazing season her team had. Somehow, we’re supposed to believe that the comments of a man with virtually no connection to the sports world ruined Rutgers’ wonderful season. Had a broadcaster with credibility and a platform in the sports world uttered the words Imus did, I could understand a level of outrage. But an hourlong press conference over a man who has already apologized, already been suspended and is already insignificant is just plain intellectually dishonest. This is opportunism. This is a distraction. In the grand scheme, Don Imus is no threat to us in general and no threat to black women in particular. If his words are so powerful and so destructive and must be rebuked so forcefully, then what should we do about the idiot rappers on BET, MTV and every black-owned radio station in the country who use words much more powerful and much more destructive? I don’t listen or watch Imus’ show regularly. Has he at any point glorified selling crack cocaine to black women? Has he celebrated black men shooting each other randomly? Has he suggested in any way that it’s cool to be a baby-daddy rather than a husband and a parent? Does he tell his listeners that they’re suckers for pursuing education and that they’re selling out their race if they do? When Imus does any of that, call me and I’ll get upset. Until then, he is what he is — a washed-up shock jock who is very easy to ignore when you’re not looking to be made a victim. No. We all know where the real battleground is. We know that the gangsta rappers and their followers in the athletic world have far bigger platforms to negatively define us than some old white man with a bad radio show. There’s no money and lots of danger in that battle, so Jesse and Al are going to sit it out Subject: Re: SHOULD WE BE MAD AT IMUS? Message: Subject: Re: SHOULD WE BE MAD AT IMUS? Message: It is outrageuos for an individual, like Imus, to make such unfortunate racially charged comments on national channels. But the point is people are using this for their own gains. But that is how the world is guess. To be fair with Imus, he was a respectable broadcaster. he, like everyone else, has got his problems, which most times is crossing the acceptable lines just to generate humor. But, considering that he has apologised, that he went to Al's show and endured all the bashing and has offered to personally meet the girls and their families to offer apologies, this case must not be generating all the hype that it is. Look, black people should move away from the victim syndrome and work on the problems among ourselves, not always lookin for someone to blame. Let's get on man. Subject: PMDC . Age and leadership Message: I’m not being naďve here, but the question is: Given the urgency of the situation in this their first election, and therefore 40 and above can contest for the presidency. Otherwise is it in the PMDC Constitution that the party leader must be 40 years of age and above? Islam says that prophets usually come of age at the age of 40 (40 years in the desert, 40 days up in the mountain with the Almighty) Dr. Maurice Bucaille lectures on the first forty days of the foetus. Moses became leader of Israel at the age of 80 (eighty.) Were the PMDC a less ambitious party in the making, given the watchword of youth “new blood”/ “young blood” the age factor – the age-ideas, age-experience -and-ability factor would be less rigid. It usually takes some time for a party to evolve a nation-wide organisational structure from the grassroots up, especially a party like the PMDC, which - I dare say – is organised in a very hierarchical way, from the top, to the bottom, since its inception. A shoot off the old Palm Tree. Charles Margai himself the founder, is the main (sole) foundation alone, even if harder than concrete in his resolve to lead. It takes time for a party of even weeds, to grow. Of course the founder could see the party through its teething difficulties and eventually he himself hand over to someone younger. Dr. Kamara his second –in-command is (as I was told, if he is an old Edwardian) is also a very capable man. Subject: Re: PMDC . Age and leadership Message: ”It will be either 70 or 75 - all of us will decide that." Charles Margai has already decided:”either 70 or 75” Subject: Re: PMDC . Age and leadership Message: Subject: Re: PMDC . Age and leadership Message: I say take note, since you are probably in the PMDC shadow cabinet as minister of Media and Communication/Information. But before you take the oath of office, have you considered one of the terms of your appointment? Your captain has spoken: So far, he is keeping this well within the limits of party lines and has chosen to lead by example, hasn’t he? He has not called on any other party ( or the big shots in the government to declare their assets (the sum total of all their worldly belongings) - open to public gaze and envious scrutiny. Subject: Re: PMDC . Age and leadership Message: I suppose that PMDC party members feel “We’re in this thing together “(same as the criminals). Perhaps by a slip of his spontaneous tongue he meant to table a suggestion to the party and could have said ”Should” instead of what sounds like his imperial will. Assuming also that he was tabling that suggestion as a humble leader of the party, why does he say ” YOU– will decide”? Subject: HOW NOT TO CHANGE SIERRA LEONE'S CONSTITUTION Message: Is Peter Tucker the right man to lead this exercise? If so, would he ensure the panel seriously consider implementing modern thinking (which can be a vague term) and economical and social changes (land tenure, taxation, property rights, etc?) to the citizenry of Sierra Leone. You asked me the above question just over two months ago. You may remember my following answer: In a message dated 2/2/2007 6:49:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, MohmJ@... writes: "Your question quoted above is a cogent one. It can be conclusively answered only by the actual results produced by the constitutional review commission that Mr. Tucker heads." Now that the commission Dr. Tucker heads has reportedly produced its report, it is time to answer your question. To do so validly, let us proceed to the recommendations of the report and Dr. Tucker's justification of the proposed amendments to SL's 1991 constitution: 1. "Speaking to Awoko at the British Council Thursday Dr Peter Tucker defended the accusations that the amendments were being rushed through saying "There is no constitution of Sierra Leone that I know of which has taken longer than three months to discuss, and ours is taking about four months." MY RESPONSE #1: Dr. Tucker's accusers echo the very same concern that I expressed to you here when I cautioned against rushing into a constitution change, namely: "Is the eve of national elections the proper time for the lame duck President Tejan Kabbah's SLPP government to launch a review of the constitution of SL?" Dr. Tucker's defense is easily rebutted: The fact that past constitutional reviews have taken no "longer than three months to discuss" is not a reason for continuing to short-circuit a fundamental constitutional process. On the contrary, the predictable failure of those constitutional reforms make the case for a far more serious effort -- not one, like Dr. Tucker's commission's, which lasted merely about a month longer. 2. "On the question of whether the National Electoral Commission (NEC) will be able to conduct a referendum along with the elections slated for July 28, Dr Tucker said "I think they should be able to but it is left to them but my view is that it can be done" adding that "the matter is between government and NEC." MY RESPONSE #2: Since Dr. Tucker believes that a referendum can be conducted simultaneously with the imminent elections, he is obligated to duly set forth precisely how it can be done given the obvious resource constraint which he himself explicitly acknowledged when he stated: "they don't have to be held together if we can find money to do them separately – so if the resources are available another date could be fixed" Dr. Tucker's statement begs an obvious question that the SL journalist failed to ask him and which also he failed to answer, namely: If Dr. Tucker does not know whether the money needed to conduct a referendum simultaneously with the elections is available, how does he know that it can be done? 3. "Questioned about the justification for a second chamber in parliament, Dr Tucker explained that "on the first occasion it was really not discussed it was rejected by cabinet and so we don't think that the people rejected it and so we think we should try again to bring it in." MY RESPONSE #3: Even though Dr. Tucker apparently failed to notice it, his above-quoted statement provides another reason for a much more thorough approach to the effort to review the constitution than in the past. That he is reduced to guessing about the intentions of the population regarding the last constitutional review speaks volumes about the unreliability of the past effort. It is that realization that should impel him to abandon his current effort to unwittingly replicate the errors that marred the last such attempted reform. 4. "He explained further that "in most other commonwealth countries where you have separation of powers they have this second chamber which helps to moderate – it's a kind of check and balance situation –if we have a group of experienced people in administration, religion Paramount Chiefs sitting there they are more likely to moderate any excesses coming from the House of Representatives by advice by comment, than it is now." MY RESPONSE #4: What Dr. Tucker fails to realize is that SL currently is unlike most Commonwealth (or, indeed, other) countries -- its SLPP government can not provide any of the basic services that the governments of most commonwealth and other countries readily provide to their citizens, such as reliable electricity, water, sanitation and medical services. Therefore, it is inappropriate to seek to justify a second chamber of parliament on the ground that other commonwealth countries have it, as Dr. Tucker erroneously purports to do. The more relevant question is whether this is an effective and efficient policy given the fact that the government of SL, unlike those of other commonwealth countries, has failed to meet the minimal expectations of a government in any country -- providing basic services to its citizens to enable them to avoid daily deprivations of electricity, water, sanitation and medical services? The answer to that question is clearly in the negative. There are already existing in the constitution of SL provisions for providing some checks and balances in government. They are found in the separation of powers among the judiciary, the executive and the legislature. And then there is the press. Most of all, there is the electorate. The checks and balances underlying this system of separartion of powers will be enhanced by strengthening the powers of the respective branches of government to safeguard their constitutional powers to act in proper restraint and balance of the other branches -- not by expanding the legislature, as Dr. Tucker's commission proposes. 5. "The issue of extending the immunity for the President to life is not in the Preliminary report given to journalists, though reports say the political parties have the same document where it is inserted." MY RESPONSE #5: What Dr. Tucker proposes violates the most basic tenet of the law in civilized countries -- that no man is above the law. Whereas it is reasonable for presidents to be shielded from prosecution for lawful actions pursuant to their duties as president while they are in office, there is no basis for doing so after they leave office. There is even less reason to continue to shield any president from the law for the rest of his or her life. Accordingly, the conclusion is inescapable that proposing such a patently immoral policy for inclusion in our country's constitution validates the concern that I had earlier expressed here thus: "Even then, a change should be carefully contemplated before its implementation. It should also be free from any insidious motives, such as political self-interest. Yet, sadly, that has been the case in our country. For example, it was evident in the 1971 republican constitution that was shamelessly championed by some of SL's finest legal minds, under the characteristic unpatriotic cheerleading of its greatest beneficiary -- former President Siaka Stevens of the APC." I hope the above information makes clear the reason why many different civil society proponents, including myself, opposed Dr. Tucker's quest to revise our country's constitution on the eve of the impending elections when it was announced a few months ago. Best regards, Moh'm Subject: Re: HOW NOT TO CHANGE SIERRA LEONE'S CONSTITUTION Message: Such proposals and recommendations must be reviewed, negotiated, and ratified, by a constitutional convention of Delegates representing each of the 14 Districts and NOT Political Parties especially, or other interests groups. Only after such convention Delegate ratification must the document be presented to the electorate at large for approval. And with all due regard for the expenses involved I further think that a referendum on changes in the constitution must be held apart from other electoral contamination. That Sierra Leone has always rushed changes in her constitution is ground for caution and not justification for more of the same. The results of previously rushed changes have been disastrous as Sierra Leone still reels from the capriscious Stevensonian legacy on the matter. It is our country too; and not Tejan Kabbah's alone; and not Siaka Stevens' alone; and not the personal property of other future megalomaniacs. Tejan Kabbah has enjoyed twelve years to work his magic and must now await the verdict of history to find his proper place. The least he owes us at this point is total freedom of choice to continue his policies or change directions as we judge to be in our best interests. It cannot be a gift on Kabbah's part. It is our right and we must demand and insist that we get it. Subject: Re: HOW NOT TO CHANGE SIERRA LEONE'S CONSTITUTION Message: Knice: Thank you for your reply. I totally agree with your sentiments quoted above. For too long our megalomaniac politicians from both major political parties have treated the most sacred document in our country's civil society -- our constitution -- like their personal ticket to selfish aggrandizement at the expense of the interest of the peoiple for whom they work. From the SLPP's Albert Margai's attempt to change it in the 1960's before it was even a decade old, to its actual change in 1971 by the APC's Siaka Stevens only 10 years after it had been installed, and also in 1991 by the APC's Joseph Momoh, our people have slept through it all, oblivious of their right to object to megalomania. No wonder the SLPP's Tejan Kabbah feels he can continue the tradition of trashing our constitution for political self-interest. It is time the people of SL put a stop to the rape of their rights by immoral politicians -- they should say no to Kabbah's attempt to put himself above the laws of SL. Subject: Re: HOW NOT TO CHANGE SIERRA LEONE'S CONSTITUTION Message: Subject: Re: HOW NOT TO CHANGE SIERRA LEONE'S CONSTITUTION Message: Subject: Re: HOW NOT TO CHANGE SIERRA LEONE'S CONSTITUTION Message: what these jokers must remember is that our xonstituion is not a plaything. Kabbah and Tucker misused it before 1996 to make kabbah run for prsident. The country must not stand for it again. Me say, never again, bobs. Eee doo do pan crookishness from these old crooks nar rope in the slpp. Subject: Re: HOW NOT TO CHANGE SIERRA LEONE'S CONSTITUTION Message: Well, those days are gone Subject: Re: HOW NOT TO CHANGE SIERRA LEONE'S CONSTITUTION Message: Subject: Sengbe, let us know more about Nasiru's funeral Message: 1. We can contribute to show our love for the departed brother and show solidarity with the family 2. If there is anything else we can do Subject: Re: Sengbe, let us know more about Nasiru's funeral Message: Until I get in touch with her, I do not have any other information to relay to you. However, your proximity to Philly puts you in a better position for answers to those questions. Subject: Re: Sengbe, let us know more about Nasiru's funeral Message: so geography overcomes family connection? You a relative of the deceased wants to get information about his funeral from a non-family member/stranger? wonders never cease. Subject: Re: Sengbe, let us know more about Nasiru's funeral Message: Subject: Re: Sengbe, let us know more about Nasiru's funeral Message: We shall mourn for 40 days and pick up the fights just before elections. But Amazing is right though shouldnt Sengbe as a family member know more about this funeral than any of us? How come he only heard about it yesterday after I made the posting when Brother nasiru had been dead for over a week before I heard about it? Subject: Re: Sengbe, let us know more about Nasiru's funeral Message: Only if Sengbe lived in the same house, and city with him. We have appointed his sister to take the lead in making the funeral arrangements. We shall abide by whatever she and her committee come up with. "... How come he only heard about it yesterday after I made the posting when Brother nasiru had been dead for over a week before I heard about it?..." Because that is when I heard about it. I do not come to this site everyday, you know. I am not here 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and 365 days a year like some of you. I have other things to do, beside reading the crap you usually write on this forum. Why the unusual interest all of a sudden? Subject: Re: Sengbe, let us know more about Nasiru's funeral Message: There is no unusual interest all of a sudden. I have been friends with him and counselled him when you as a blood relative were not there to do so. I have been doing that for him since 1997. Do you call lthat a "sudden unusual interest". Go chill dawg and dont make this anpother issue. If you were so close to the family it would not have taklen you a week to find out that your cousin had passed on. When he was struggling did you reach out to him?> No!! I wonder why not. It is time for sadness and please dont lets go there on nasirus behalf. Subject: Re: Sengbe, let us know more about Nasiru's funeral Message: Subject: Re: Sengbe, let us know more about Nasiru's funeral Message: Subject: Re: Sengbe, let us know more about Nasiru's funeral Message: The Reverend asked questions about the funeral, and his intention to make a contribution. I answered his questions as best as I could, by pointing to the person to whom contributions should be remitted to - late Nasiru's sister, Lilian - and where - Philadelphia. That is the information I have, and I gave it out. Now what problem are you trying to create with that aspect of my response? What is so disgusting about your response to STOP, is that you did NOT understand what my response was to the Reverend, if you bothered to read it in the first place. All of a sudden folks like you are coming out of the woodwork claiming friendship and loyalty in death. Read my response to the Rev. again, and again, and you will find out that NO "family member [is asking] for information about his relative's funeral from a stranger." As you stupidly put it. Subject: Re: what you said Message: Subject: Re: Sengbe, let us know more about Nasiru's funeral Message: May His sould rest in peace Subject: Re: Sengbe, let us know more about Nasiru's funeral Message: Subject: Who is ML Bangura Message: Subject: Re: Who is ML Bangura Message: Subject: HOW THE APC STOLE THE 1967 ELECTIONS Message: Cocorioko’s recently published views of Mr. E.T. Kamara, a former Secretary-General of the APC, in which he blamed the SLPP for the APC’s 26 years of misrule, is an interesting mea culpa, to say the least. In his Squealer-type desperation to explain the indefensible APC record, E.T. even went as low as to blame the SLPP for even Bangura’s 1971 coup, which was due to an internal split between the Tonkolili wing of the APC (of the Taqi brothers, Dr. Mohamed Sorie Fornah, and Dr. Karefa Smart) and the rest of the APC. This charge is utterly ludicrous because as the APC’s strongman, Bangura (and his troops) had committed so many atrocities in the Southern and Eastern Provinces in the service of the APC between 1968 and 1970 that I cannot even imagine how anyone can claim enough rapport between him and the SLPP to the extent that they would collude to make a coup. Has E.T. forgotten K.I. Kai-Samba’s 1968 plea in Parliament for Siaka Stevens to end his military occupation of Kenema District? Is he not aware of the fact that people actually jubilated wildly in the streets throughout the Southern and Eastern Provinces after Bangura’s hanging – in much the same way as Shiite Iraqis celebrated the hanging of Saddam? Subject: Re: HOW THE APC STOLE THE 1967 ELECTIONS Message: APC commentary on the 1967 elections and their aftermath is one of the four great fallacies upon which Sierra Leone was dragged into a status as the sick man of Africa. The others were that Dr. John Karefa-Smart was cheated out of succeeding Sir Milton Margai as Prime Minister in April 1964; that development expenditures favored the South and the East; and that Sir Albert Margai was a Mende hegemonist who denied opportunities to all who were not Mende. These lies were pounded so relentlessly and for so long that for many they became fact. For far too long also those who sought to correct the record were ridiculed as tribalists and intimidated into silence. It is a welcome sign therefore, to see people like Dr. Kelfala Kallon now standing up to the naked open call, and essentially demanding a return to dialog based on facts. It may not seem like much now, but I believe that we will come to recognize such enough is enough stance, as the turning point for the better in dialog among Sierra Leoneans. Subject: Re: HOW THE APC STOLE THE 1967 ELECTIONS Message: Subject: Re: HOW THE APC STOLE THE 1967 ELECTIONS Message: The kallons believe that only mendes and the slpp should lead sierra leone. the kallons are tribalistic mendes. to hell with the kallons Subject: Re: HOW THE APC STOLE THE 1967 ELECTIONS Message: "Cocorioko’s recently published views of Mr. E.T. Kamara, a former Secretary-General of the APC, in which he blamed the SLPP for the APC’s 26 years of misrule, is an interesting mea culpa, to say the least." Tell me, alieu, does this guy understand what mea culpa means? How can he then say E.T's blasting of the SLPP is a mea culpa even though E.T. is not an Slpp man? I stopped reading Kallon's irrelevant ramblings after that rubbish first sentence. Don't waste your time istening to a man who does not know what he is writing about. Subject: Re: HOW THE APC STOLE THE 1967 ELECTIONS Message: Subject: Re: HOW THE APC STOLE THE 1967 ELECTIONS Message: The language style reflects the skills of a well read scholar. Subject: Re: HOW THE APC STOLE THE 1967 ELECTIONS Message: Do you mean reflects the writer's ability to write clearly? Why do you guys like to write big words when you don't know what they mean? Stop praising yourselves falsely. Learn to accept corrections. Focus on learning how to write clearly. Then you will receive true praise. But not before. Subject: Re: HOW THE APC STOLE THE 1967 ELECTIONS Message: As introduction, the three basic fields of inquiries within this discipline are categorized as structural, literature, and Speech. The writer manifested great talents in not only his There was more to his writing than what meets the eye of the ordinary reader. I would have gone on and on with analysing his art because the functional styles of writing are in turn categorised into subdivisions under which the content of his essay qualify. However, I choose to sum it up as a job well done, and herewith rest my preliminary analysis. Subject: Re: HOW THE APC STOLE THE 1967 ELECTIONS Message: Kelfala kallon misused the term mea culpa by using it in reference to E.T. Kamara becos the latter did not admit to any fault. You misused the word talents by redundantly including it in your sentence: Kelfala Kallon's is an impressive essay and reflects great talents in the writer's ability to manifest his thoughts with precision, . Therefore, the sentence makes no sense at all! Like I said, you two should try hard to understand your mistakes of vocabulary and grammar respectively, then hopefully learn from them. Praising yourselves falsely would do you no good. Indeed, it would delay your remedial education unnecessarily.. Subject: Re: HOW THE APC STOLE THE 1967 ELECTIONS Message: It won't make any sense taking you to those heights any way we are not on the same intellectual wave length. I have no further interest in debating with you. Good bye. Subject: Re: HOW THE APC STOLE THE 1967 ELECTIONS Message: As i told you and your vocabulary-challenged friend, Kelfala Kallon, you should try very hard to learn from your mistakes of grammar and vocabulary respectively. Don't run away from them. Subject: Re: HOW THE APC STOLE THE 1967 ELECTIONS Message: E.T Kamara did not use the term bad governance. You are the one using it to describe his explanation of what he maintained was Stevens' appropriate actions against lawless mischief-making SLPP members and their goons. A serious person would not describe Cole's forceful endorsement of Steven's policies as a mea culpa. In doing so, you are either not serious or you don't know what the phrase means. I don't see anything wrong with discarding an essay, no matter how long, after reading the first sentence if the reader determines that the author does not know what he is talking about. Why waste precious time reading the rest of it? Subject: Re: HOW THE APC STOLE THE 1967 ELECTIONS Message: Subject: Re: HOW THE APC STOLE THE 1967 ELECTIONS Message: Subject: Re: HOW THE APC STOLE THE 1967 ELECTIONS Message: Subject: Re: HOW THE APC STOLE THE 1967 ELECTIONS Message: Subject: Sierra Leone’s Regime Types from Milton Margai to Valentine Message:
From: concerned
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Date Posted: 11:48:37 04/13/07 ()
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"hehehehehahahaha"
bo lef me yah..udat dae join a prty of Gamblers...Me you go soba.
From: PMDC
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Date Posted: 11:50:31 04/13/07 ()
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so you don join dah party wae dae tiff en lie, ehn?
hahahahehehehehehshehohohohohoho oh ha ho!
From: charles
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Date Posted: 11:57:18 04/13/07 ()
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Party wae get Bami--the dis-bared Lawyer as one of the executive member.Bo do yah una try harder..
From: Cee Bah
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Date Posted: 12:00:16 04/13/07 ()
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Hey Charlie,
At least PMDC conference/conventin had one election in which an incumbent lost! Who said the PMDC is not democratic!
From: charles
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Date Posted: 12:05:53 04/13/07 ()
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you know saidu bah? Or any relation?
From: Cee Bah
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Date Posted: 15:18:51 04/13/07 ()
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Might be relatives. But I don't think I know any Saidu Bah as a direct relative. It's a small world and you never know, though!
From: charles
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Date Posted: 12:03:29 04/13/07 ()
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OOps my bad... so watin e dae do now? nar part of Charles maggai im security? den say Charles get security lek REBEL LEADER...nor to me say dat ooh nar news paper...
From: charles
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Date Posted: 10:34:06 04/13/07 ()
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You're right.. more like after this election, there will be no more PMDC... mark my words...PMDC will follow: UNPP, PDP, NUP, ....una wait en see...
From: Solomon
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Date Posted: 10:43:19 04/13/07 ()
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hey slpp apologist, didn't you hear the man tell your fellow dunbo to stop trying to change the subject from slpp's funeral? Are you dumbos also deaf?
From: charles
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Date Posted: 10:47:01 04/13/07 ()
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No why? quit using different handles....concentrate on Maggai's downfall..
From: concerned
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Date Posted: 09:40:19 04/13/07 ()
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Is this another request for EVIDENCE? Do not try to discredit BRA KABS yah...Dis na independent journalist
From: Rudeness
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Date Posted: 08:25:18 04/13/07 ()
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Posted by Rudeness on April 13, 2007 at 08:22:22:
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 15:14:51 04/13/07 ()
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You are really idle.
Don't you have anything better to do?
Dumb Ass Morfor!!!
From: Rudeness
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Date Posted: 18:35:11 04/13/07 ()
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stop misbehaving, rude one, at least on our noble forum. do it at home where the problem sta -- and where it must stay. we had no part in your poor upbringing.
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 19:48:13 04/13/07 ()
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From: COCORIOCO NEWS
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Date Posted: 19:10:40 04/12/07 ()
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Breaking News : DEFECTIONS FROM PMDC TO SLPP: VICE-PRESIDENT ON THE WAY TO ADDRESS THE NEWCOMERS
COCORIOKO is following up breaking story that there have been some defections from the opposition People's Movement For Democratic Change ( PMDC) to the ruling Sierra Leone People's Party ( SLPP) .The Vice-President , Hon .Solomon Berewa , is said to have left his lodge to go and address the defectees. Our reporters are hot on the story and will bring you the latest very soon Stay tuned to your speedy and reliable source of information .
From: Kingtom Boy
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Date Posted: 09:28:22 04/13/07 ()
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KK,
All this talk of disintegration of the PMDC is only heard in cyberspace from you all who are computer politicians and are not even registered voters.
PMDC is laughing at you all in the background as you have fallen head on in their trap. Wait for their press releases (USA, UK, NL, SL) and see who laughs last.
BTW Karmoh Kabba is still the communication directors, what about that for starters...
BO SLPP WUNA LEF WE YAR...SHOW WE THE PICTURES OF THE DEFECTORS....
From: Cee Bah
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Date Posted: 10:01:52 04/13/07 ()
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I just can't understand some people. I am currently not in Sierra Leone. But I have not been away from long and I know the politics of our country pretty well(I studied politcial science at FBC).
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 10:55:21 04/13/07 ()
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Mr. Cee Bah:
From: Cee Bah
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Date Posted: 11:14:51 04/13/07 ()
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My dear Ambassador,
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 13:17:43 04/13/07 ()
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Mr. Cee Bah, thank you very much.
That plus my respect for the views of the rank and file nationwide encouraged me to take my current path.
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 20:15:16 04/12/07 ()
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I thought the SLPP Line has been that PMDC is small potatoes....
Why then is the VP going to the scene to address the so-called defectees/New-comers/Old-timers (what-ever you want to call them)?
I-MAN
From: Cee Bah
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Date Posted: 10:04:12 04/13/07 ()
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I man,
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 21:15:08 04/12/07 ()
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I think the VP is showing us a sign of strong leadership qualities. You cannot discard your brother in times of differences be they major or petty. He needs to show them that we are one. They left and they saw the differences - change within is what we are going to teach our prodigals (no disrespect). We love them and VP is going to gladly welcome them in the fold.
From: Mohamed Serwo Feika
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Date Posted: 05:49:13 04/13/07 ()
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Mr. Winakabs. Happy to see you contribute on this forum once more. The idea of change within was preached to me several times when I was in Sierra Leone. The SLPP will surely win come 27th July 2007.
I did get your message about your divorce with all of us. Hope you will have a change of heart because you are a gentleman. I don’t have your contact. You can call me if you have a change of mind with regards the divorce.
From: Cee Bah
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Date Posted: 10:07:33 04/13/07 ()
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Service man,
From: daniel kaitibi
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Date Posted: 09:34:28 04/13/07 ()
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feika bo kushe bra..
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 21:32:17 04/12/07 ()
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Very good take on it!
You sound like an effective mouth piece for your party.......
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 22:01:42 04/12/07 ()
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Love for the land that we love our Sierra Leone. That is what creates such utterances - patriotism. We need to love each other regardless our political and tribal differences - nationhood is first. We continue to love ourselves regardless the abovementioned - we are going for platinum awards.
From: Jimmy Kandeh
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Date Posted: 07:04:55 04/14/07 ()
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Kabs:
Could you please provide details of the sensational breaking news posted on your main page yesterday. You also insist that Tombo Bangura was the popular choice of the PMDC rank and file for running mate and that ITJ is a PMDC outsider. You are obviously wrong on both counts. First, ITJ has been with the PMDC from inception, albeit in the background. Second, Tombo had his supporters who actively campaigned on his behalf but that does not mean he was the popular choice of PMDC members. I personally believe CFM made a superb choice that the SLPP can never top - Momodu Koroma, Kabba's choice for VP, will be the sickest joke.
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 13:44:15 04/14/07 ()
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Choosing a sacked SLPP minister/disgruntled former SLPP member is a superb chioce?
I thought the PMDC was going to bring in new people? What is so new about ITJ?
What is the difference between PMDC and SLPP?
From: Jimmy Kandeh
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Date Posted: 16:12:05 04/15/07 ()
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You pose a pertinent question (re. what differentiates the PMDC from the SLPP) and my answer is Not Much except for the following:
(1) The SLPP has shown us what it can do as a governing party and the PMDC has not to this point. Staying the wrong course with the SLPP is not an option or the way forward, in my honest opinion. We frankly have some bad choices in this election and everbody is settling for their own version of the lesser of three evils.
From: charles
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Date Posted: 10:15:01 04/14/07 ()
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"I personally believe CFM made a superb choice that the SLPP can never top - Momodu Koroma, Kabba's choice for VP, will be the sickest joke"
Becareful....you might not be in parliament come August since you will not win a single seat...
From: M. Alieu Iscandari esq
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Date Posted: 19:15:24 04/12/07 ()
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Like we dont know that most of the so called defectees were slpp at heart. margai screwed up big time. He is politically a "done for". If these allegations are true then he is outie in sierra leone politics. may be hell go back to SLPP. For those of you who have been rude and have opposed John Leighs assessment of Margai, time to become contrite and apologise because this man who had such a good movement has imploded and in the most arrogant of ways.
From: FARRAH MARRAH
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Date Posted: 09:38:42 04/13/07 ()
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Alieu,
There was no way in Heaven that Charles was going to be a leader in SL without the support of the SLPP. He had the right to found his party.
If Berewa selects a non-Mende as vp, and they screw up--as they will--Charles will be the PRINCE in waiting to ASSUME the THRONE.
Tejan Kabbah is a Madinga by paternal lineage but he was breast fed by a MENDE lady. COMPRENDE?
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 22:26:28 04/12/07 ()
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Alieu, na true yu tork so oh!
I've been very suspicious of John Leigh's assessments of "King" Charles. Well, what can I say? Sorry John
From: Yaya Fanusie
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Date Posted: 19:57:24 04/12/07 ()
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Alieu,
Let us just wait and see if those who are defecting are Mendes.
Yaya Fanusie
From: Test
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Date Posted: 22:54:40 04/12/07 ()
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You really seem to have something deeply rooted in you about the Mendes. This has nothing to do with whether the defectors are mendes or not. Please note that Margai is not a MENDE. He is a Sherbro. Please something else to think about. I am watching out for you.
From: Adu Konteh
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Date Posted: 08:27:40 04/13/07 ()
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John Leigh also hates Margai becos Margai fine pass worwor John Leigh.
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 10:30:27 04/13/07 ()
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Dear Mr. Adu Konteh & Dr. Fanusi:
From: Cee Bah
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Date Posted: 10:48:43 04/13/07 ()
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There you go again, mr Ambassador.
"And when I refused and refused to deal with PMDC what was their reaction? I was pelted with their tsunamis of vituperations since March 1, 2006 - all to no avail. But I don't think PMDCers hate me. I think they hate my politics."
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 11:36:49 04/13/07 ()
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My politics is as follows:
From: Ambbassador
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Date Posted: 10:39:35 04/13/07 ()
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How can one lead effectively when his key tactic is double-crossing others? -- JL
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 11:21:45 04/13/07 ()
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No, Mr. Ambassador. I am talking about the PMDC leadership.
From: Referee
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Date Posted: 13:45:53 04/13/07 ()
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"But I have heard you say so many things that are also just illogical. I have heard you hopping up and down, changing positions etc." - Cee Bah
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 14:16:35 04/13/07 ()
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Below is my goodbye to you.
In Reply to: Re: A MUST-READ ANALYSIS OF SLPP'S LEADERSHIP posted by KAPU SENSE NOR KAPU WORD on April 13, 2007 at 13:28:56:
I also recognize your right to differ with me. Thank you. -JL
From: KAPU KAPU
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Date Posted: 14:50:56 04/13/07 ()
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You are wrong. A double-cross is what happens when a president stabs his faithful vice president in the back by giving his job to a killer from bumpe named Berewa. that's what your leader president kabbah did.
From: KAPU SENSE NOR KAPU WORD
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Date Posted: 13:36:17 04/13/07 ()
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For your information, Mr. Kabbah did not double-cross Dr.Joe Demby. He merely dropped him as his running mate for his second term.-- John Leigh
From: Waraba
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Date Posted: 23:51:52 04/12/07 ()
Email Address: futatoro@gmail.com
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Test, I know Charles Margai is Sherbro and Mende. You see
John Leigh hates Charles Margai because of his Sherbro heritage. You know the Sherbros Credo is Sherbros come first, then White pipul next and the rest follows.
So forumites you all now know that the real force driving John Leigh's hatred of Charles Margai is John Leigh's self-assessment that he is inferior to Charles Margai because Margai is half Sherbro.
Waraba
From: OLD PAPA YOUNG BOY
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Date Posted: 23:08:17 04/12/07 ()
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He is just a joker. He is one of the few good guys in the APC. Nar big man big fool, but he stood firm in his support for the Kamajors and the late Norman. He says outrageous things must of the times, but he is no tribalist.
From: Yaya Fanusie
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Date Posted: 23:59:23 04/12/07 ()
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Brah,
I do not need any viagra!
From: concerned
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Date Posted: 23:11:49 04/12/07 ()
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You are right,beyond his silly( IMUS) mishaps, Dr Fanusie is a brilliant mind. You will have to talk to him in person for you to tell we in Salone are lucky to have somebody like him.
From: jebbeh
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Date Posted: 15:51:40 04/14/07 ()
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Dr Fanusie is a brilliant mind. "
From: Concerned
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Date Posted: 00:09:32 04/15/07 ()
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jebbeh. He does have a PhD. The man nar book man. He got his PhD in 81. Do you him?
here is something that shows he has a PhD
From: concerned
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Date Posted: 23:02:20 04/12/07 ()
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Dr Fanusie is not a tribalist.You can call him whatever you want but not anti-mende.
If you say the New School Graduate den you are on point.
From: Sarcastic Man
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Date Posted: 20:18:50 04/12/07 ()
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Sarcasm???
From: ORLANGBA
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Date Posted: 18:44:25 04/12/07 ()
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courtesy of cocorioco
From: Worworliwor
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Date Posted: 21:55:59 04/12/07 ()
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This guy wins the WORWORLIWOR award. He definitely beats the the gongolee/worwor newspaper lady.
From: Bereworwor
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Date Posted: 14:04:00 04/13/07 ()
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What about Berewa? is he a fine boy?
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 20:23:58 04/12/07 ()
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Another Prominent Member of the Poverty Spreading Club (with a Borbor-belle like appearance I might add.....)
Voters Beware!!!!!!!!!
Another Prominent Member of the Poverty Spreading Club
From: M. Alieu Iscandari esq
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Date Posted: 18:40:56 04/12/07 ()
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Lillian just sent me the account number that she set up at the bank for Nasiru’s Funeral.
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From: Yaya Fanusie
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Date Posted: 18:15:44 04/12/07 ()
Email Address: futatoro@gmail.com
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Gentlemen: Smell the di Gambayteabush! The people of Sierra Leone are nolonger interested this repeated autopsy of the old dead apc. It is the New APC that the people are now clamoring for because of it New Vision of a better Sierra Leone. Only the short past is relevent to
the intelligent voters of Sierra Leone. The recent past my friends is what is politically relevant. And this is where the focus is not what you deformedly educated fellows preach. We are moving forward because we provide a forward leadership not a leadership of backward analysis.
We want real progress. Domestically created progress not externally subsidised progress. Your types are comfortable with having a begger status. Well my fellows not all Sierra Leoneans are beggers! We are not poor. Just poorly managed by Kabbah-Berewa; Berewa's tail, John Leigh. The New APC under the dignified and foresighted leadership of Ernest Bai Koroma is committed in charting a series of activities for Sierra Leoneans to own so as to move the Nation. Building the
Sierra Leone Nation is the responsibility of everyone and Ernest Bai Koroma will foster the political culture and climate for many Sierra Leoneans to own those activities. You Knice, Kelfala and John Leigh may be banfa children but the majority of Sierra Leoneans are not and therefore they will change Sierra Leone for the better by voting the New APC TO RULE JULY 28, 2007.
The future of Sierra Leone is with those looking forward.
Yaya Fanusie
From: Kelfala M. Kallon
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Date Posted: 11:27:52 04/13/07 ()
Email Address: KelKallon@comcast.net
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Bo, Yayah, leff me with you APC kalo kalo. Why did you not tell your fellow APC apostles who have continued to abuse our collective intelligence with the Great Lie about 1967 that history does not matter (or that only recent history matters)? You know from our Leonenet days that I do not engage in debates over labels because I know that the oldest trick of desperate intellectuals and intellectual wanna-bes is the use of labeling in order to divert serious intellectual discussions by forcing people to defend themselves against labels. My time is too valuable for that nonsense. Bye!
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 18:36:23 04/12/07 ()
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Sir Yahah, a vote for you new apc will be the annexation or occupation of our country by mandate. ApC old an new have no compassion for the poor> After the war ended or declared ended, give me the name of any ApC - old or new who went back to rebuild the lives of his/her people? Let sentimental values not cloud your mind with the uncertainties of light under ApC. The dream that ApC will win is beyond my imagination - I cannot see us going back to those days when the tomorrows minds of Sierra Leone were nearly wiped off the face of this earth. I always present my self as a living testament to ApC brutality and lack of human compassion. Through dogged determination we have managed to survive. My prayer is to be able to make my country a better place. my support for my party is not for my gain but for the benfit of the country. I completed some of my studies at a time when i was the only one from Sierra leone and not sponsored by my country. every student at my institution was sent by ntheir government. I paid my fees with the sole aim that one day I will use such knowledge to help my country. my network there was not for myself alone but for my country. We have Consular general's today as a result of such networks. Let us support our parties to help a national agenda and not our pockets. There is so much wealth in our country to help everyone if we only work towards a national agenda.
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 08:03:27 04/14/07 ()
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After the war ended or declared ended, give me the name of any ApC - old or new who went back to rebuild the lives of his/her people?
From: Yaya Fanusie
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Date Posted: 22:03:11 04/12/07 ()
Email Address: futatoro@gmail.com
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Chez, You will have ample opportunity to make significant contributions to creation of jobs for our people when APC return to authority and leadership in Sierra Leone come July 28, 2007. The Ernest BAi koroma APC Regime will assidiously(diligently) remove all obstacles from the path of all Sierra Leoneans no matter where the reside so as to allow them to set up job creation and wealth creation for themselves and the people of Sierra Leone. The private sector would be encourage to be the major instrument of development and economic change and growth.
So brah I am telling you to start now to get your capital ready to go. If foreigners getting rich in Sierra Leone, why not you? You I am sure will keep you r profit in Sierra Leone and re-invest in additional growth industries. Let us stop talking and develop and acquire our personal capital resources to deploy in our country's development and you will see how responsive the Govt is going to be to your needs/requirements.
We spend to much time talking nonsense when we should be looking for ways to personally and individually change our country. I have no time for all these nonsense that you all spend time on. do you see me ever serious in Cyberspace? I am just playing you all. You all do not even show your face because you all know that you are not genuine but just useless self-tripping idiotic Africans. Who cares if you paid for your schooling yourself? If you did good for you. Then you should not have a mask on. Be real. Let us know what you have done so far for Salone and let us know what you plan to do from now on. Tell us that so that we can
help you get there and remove obstacles from your path.
Ask Knice and Kelfala and brah Leigh to get venture capital for Sierra Leone and they would become the real ghosts like they are on cyberspace. You hear them but you do not see them. Dem spend all dem tem dey play with deydeybodi. And they think it is admirable role dem dey play. Unah shop up if you can not make real economic contribution to Salone. Sidum nah America or wherever; unah pipul they suffer unah dey pan idle talk.
You all want respect let throw an idea. Awareness Times just publish photo of a dangerous bridge nah Pujehun. How sad such a situation. Can some one who is an expert in bridge building come up with a rough estimate on how mch it will cost to replace that bridge? using Sierra Leonean engineers and a Sierra Leonean owned construction Company. The govt does not have to do it! we out here could come up with the money and make it a toll brige. therefore we have jobs for the people in the area as toll takers, Maintenance people of the brige and we go put up others in other areas these are not complex large briges.
Can some one just as an exercise come up this bridge project details?
Yaya Fanusie
From: Cee Bah
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Date Posted: 09:51:20 04/13/07 ()
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What exactly is so exciting you Yayah? I just can't see the newness in this APC that you are talking about.
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 22:35:48 04/12/07 ()
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Chez Winakabs is my business name; the Europe is added because i am now in europe.
WIN = Winston
A = Alusine
KABS = Kabia
From: Yaya Fanusie
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Date Posted: 23:02:26 04/12/07 ()
Email Address: futatoro@gmail.com
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Mr. Kabia, Thank you. For the disclosure about your real identity. I left Sierra Leone Septembr 03. 1967. I was a member of APC YOUTH LEAGUE AND an allied organization named National Youth Movement. The NYM was radical and Pan-Africanist. I disented and left the APC in 1970. I then started to oppose the regime of Siaka Stevens and I continued until the APC was overthrown. I did not stop there while many were rejoiced I started organizing against the Strasser and co. I am an unfliching believer and supporter of multi-party democracy. I am for the rule of law, etc.
Knice, Kelfala and Leigh, are you going to work on this Pujehun Bridge Project as outside the othodoxy of development activities?
Yaya Fanusie
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 17:54:43 04/12/07 ()
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Greetings my brothers and sisters. Charles on April 10, 2007 at 16:17:45: posted the following: but before I re-post, let me first of all, apologize for the belated response. This is due to work that I find it difficult to come to the forum as I use to so as to preserve my energy and also to make sure that certain facts are consumed properly.
Haven said that let me proceed to re-posting his message which stated thus:
"Momoh came to power in 1985. During his tenure of office we had no war"
ARE YOU SURE?
"By 1991 the Momoh regime governing Sierra Leone was in serious difficulty. Beset by a crumbling economy, growing popular agitation and factional turmoil within the government, Momoh announced a return to multi-party politics, and general elections were planned for 1992. Before the elections could be held, however, the Revolutionary United Front (RUF) attacked. With the assistance of Charles Taylor's National Patriotic Front of Liberia (NPFL), Foday Sankoh and a small band of men crossed from Liberia into Sierra Leone's Eastern Province in March 1991, with the express aim of ending the APC's 24 year grip on power. Raids on several border towns over the next few days demonstrated the weakness of the Sierra Leone military, and within a month, most of Kailahun District was under rebel control". The above is from Globalsecurity.org. "
In that regard therefore, let me make it clear again that I have never argued the fact that Momoh's regime never saw any difficulties nor did I state that there was no war. It is Africa and I also made mention of the period when Sierra Leone started feeling the pinch of hardship and the suggestive reasons. As clearly stated in my response: "Under the A.P.C. regim, Sierra Leone never saw a war be it civil or international. Even if there was a war, it was at it's infant stage, particularly during the Momoh era. Which was unheard-of in the Siaka Stevens days. We are blessed that though the youths were neglected yet, some would have had their hands today, their mothers and fathers, sisters and brothers alive today.
The rebel war started in 1991. According to the Truth and Reconciliation report of a rebel leader (that I would not wish to name for the sake of his rights as a citizen to enjoy the peace, which according to the chatter or the peace accord signed that stipulated that every citizen of Sierra Leone must enjoy the peace and should be respected under the laws of the land,) stated that the war is a residue or the Indogbo Wusie movement of the 70'S - 80's, which was queeled by the Siaka Stevens Regym. Therefore as we did not have the war then we should agree that we were protected by the government of iaka Stevens.
Momoh came to power in 1985. During his tenure of office we had no war."
I am prety sure that my opening paragraph on the issue clearly stated that "As clearly stated in my response: "Under the A.P.C. regime, Sierra Leone never saw a war be it civil or international. Even if there was a war, it was at it's infant stage, particularly during the Momoh era."
But my drive is to eradicate if possible, the blame-game and open the eyes of Sierra Leoneans to the opportunities that avail our nation should we put aside the selfish ideas of me. me, me when we should be thinking of collective responsibility for collective success and use what we have for the betterment of not only the present generation but generations to come. If we are to do that and take the selfishness out of our hearts, push the pool-down syndrome away and focus on what legacy we can live behind us that was never left for us, Sierra Leone will be a better place. The politics of telling lies or the malicious propaganda that had been the status-quo to fool us voters or citizenry to put people to power only to fail us, must be stopped by all, especially, the educated who owe our people big time!
Once again, thank you for your response.
From: charles
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Date Posted: 23:34:56 04/12/07 ()
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taken, yet do you accept the fact that the inefficiency of APC government led to the WAR in Salone?
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 17:14:47 04/12/07 ()
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NEW YORK - CBS fired Don Imus from his radio program Thursday, the finale to a stunning fall for one of the nation's most prominent broadcasters.
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 17:05:43 04/12/07 ()
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On this day in Liberian history, a violent military coup led by Master Sergeant Samuel Kayon Doe, overthrew a century-old oligarchy in Liberia.
Until Samuel Doe's takeover on April 12, 1980, Liberia was ruled by Americo-Liberians, Liberia's version of Africans that retraced their steps to the continent after the abolition of slavery.
Samuel Doe's rule in Liberia proved just as tragic as the unjust Congoh aristocracy he overthrew.
This day in Liberian history, some twenty-seven years ago.
From: Ears To The Ground
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Date Posted: 17:47:16 04/12/07 ()
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There was no internet during those days. Most of what made the news came through by "Den Say" radio. ("den say" is an equivalent of "rumor has it" in English).
From: Give Him A Break
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Date Posted: 17:37:41 04/12/07 ()
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Bra Enviable, Samuel Doe was not the best Liberian leader but he was NOT as tragic as the Congoh people. They hated country Liberains so much that a revolution was necessary. It was the same Congoh people led by Charles Taylor the criminal that brought bloodshed to Liberia. Give Samuel Doe a break.
From: Researcher
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Date Posted: 15:59:45 04/12/07 ()
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By JEANNINE AVERSA, AP Economics Writer
1 hour, 39 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - World Bank President Paul Wolfowitz acknowledged Thursday that he erred in helping a close female friend get transferred to a high-paying job, and said he was sorry.
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 21:50:36 04/12/07 ()
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Wolfwitz's apology sounds very genuine and heartfelt, but he is not going to survive this scandal....
I believe he is going to resign soon...The outcry will only get louder and louder, the longer he stays on.......
From: CHEZ WINAKABS EUROPE
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Date Posted: 16:17:34 04/12/07 ()
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I am beginning to like him. Never think you are bigger than the smaller. At least he humble himself. A lesson to learn - no one is too perfect - mistakes are prone to happen as humans!
From: STANDARD TIMES
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Date Posted: 15:44:43 04/12/07 ()
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STANDARD TIMES
Ngor Charles Margai, "Bomba" Without Number!
Posted by Bundu Gbuta on Apr 12, 2007, 13:52
Leader of the People’s Movement for Democratic Change and Presidential aspirant,
Ngor Charles Margai...whats going on?
Charles Margai, is rapidly gaining the dubious reputation of being devious and unreliable. In the 4th April 2007 edition of the NEW VISION, in an article captioned “Margai in Dubious Vehicle Deal” it was revealed that in 2005 Mr Margai entered into a deal to with one Annie Kumba Musa to purchase a Lincoln Navigator 4-wheel drive vehicle. Payment for the said vehicle was to have been effected in three months. However, it took Mr Margai eight months to pay the first instalment of $ 5,000 on 17th February 2006. The outstanding $18,000 has still not been paid and Ms Musa claims that “Mr Margai has been dodging to settle his debt”.
From: marion
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Date Posted: 03:24:51 04/13/07 ()
Email Address: marionn4u@yahoo.com
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i think people should focus on their politiking than attacking charles margai. it was a good decision he took by appointing DR tejan jalloh as vice presidential aspirant. we know dauda tombo better than u guys here.he shares a single room at kissy market with his mum.i believe charles must have investigated about this guy a lot before taking that decision. he took it for the benefit of the movement.it was a disappointment for some megalomaniac plunderers who think sierra leone is place farm for disgruntled politicians
From: marion
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Date Posted: 03:45:35 04/13/07 ()
Email Address: marionn4u@yahoo.com
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if una dae talk bad bot charles margai, well mek ar tell uno say dauda tombo sef bin len from wan krio borbor in motoka 1992 wae e en nam mek plaba nar kissy. di krio borbor nar sankey street i dae. i nor bin wan gi i motoka again until di borbor weet reginald grover for i motoka bifo i gi am. nar mercedes benz.dat wan mek i buy wan benz jeep
From: concerned
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Date Posted: 23:06:14 04/12/07 ()
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All your questions can be answered in one word: YES.
He is a cheat, a dictator, a dishonest man, a gambler and above all e get pekin with im famble--disgusting.
From: Cee Bah
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Date Posted: 16:17:26 04/12/07 ()
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Charlie boy in another saga. Give the guy a break. he has enough to worry about now including how to settle the apparent rifts in his embattled party.
From: CHEZ WINAKABS EUROPE
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Date Posted: 13:58:31 04/12/07 ()
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My inner self tells me that Charles' crookedness is been manifested in the way he has duped his INNER CIRCLE! i also think that he knows he is going know where and needs the funds to equip him for the days he will have in self-exile! PMDC members and supporters, please do not be abgry with me. I am merely venting out the feelings of my experienced inner guts. i tend to look beyond the lookings of the ordinary. I profoundly probe everything I do, see or feel and sometimes just ignore as life will be boring if you suspect everyone you encounter. Charles is not a man to trust. I have known him since I was a 12/13 years old when i was at CKC. Search your souls for the truth as to why you believe Charles will be your dream leader!!
From: Cee Bah
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Date Posted: 16:12:47 04/12/07 ()
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Well, well. Boy, some of us saw this coming, long ago and while we were shouting it out loud, others thought that we were just being unprogressive, nonconformist(please help me with the words the PMDC guys were using out here).
From: Political Analyst
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Date Posted: 15:32:16 04/12/07 ()
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Chez,
You guys are building a mountain out of nothing. Choosing a running mate should be the sole prerogative of the candidate. At least that is how it works in advanced democracies. Margai has done nothing wrong in choosing the person he is comfortable with.
From: CHEZ WINAKABS EUROPE
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Date Posted: 15:50:32 04/12/07 ()
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Trust might mean a very little thing to you but some take a mistrust seriously as it makes a big difference. take this scenario similar to what happened in the PMDC: Yourself, myself and a few others come together with a common design. We decided that i be the leader and that I should be given the privilege of selecting who ni wan to be my assistant. I decided on a few names to look at as assistants. All were happy with my ultimate selection at the point of the last meeting. Within a few days without telling you and the others decided on a bringing in someone whom none of you did not know was interest or would be selected. What message am I sending to the general group?
From: PMDC
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Date Posted: 15:38:41 04/12/07 ()
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* Report from the Ass. Sec. Gen. for NEC-USA was entirely inline with the above observations. It is disturbing that the Diasporan community was ill-treated when for joking that they had a challenger to his leadership at the national convention, only for him to apologize later to the diasporan delegates upon learning that it was a prank.*----Karamoh Kabba
From: MABESSENEH
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Date Posted: 12:10:22 04/12/07 ()
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MABESSENEH HOSPITAL IN SIERRA LEONE CELEBRATES 40 YEARS OF EXISTENCE WITH A NURSING SCHOOL PROJECT
Mar 17, 2007, 17:08
From: DOCTOR
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Date Posted: 11:51:45 04/12/07 ()
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Liberia: Lassa Fever Returns As Health Sector Crumbles
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UN Integrated Regional Information Networks
Posted to the web April 12, 2007
Mildred Wesseh, a Ministry of Health spokesperson, told IRIN on Wednesday that the ministry has now confirmed a further 13 cases in Nimba County, close to the border with Guinea and Côte d'Ivoire. Cases have also been reported in Bong County (central Liberia) and Lofa (north), according to the Health Ministry.
According to Liberia's Human Development Report (2006), by the end of the country's civil war 95 percent of health facilities had been destroyed and just 20 trained Liberian doctors were left in the country, while the United Nations children's agency (UNICEF) estimated in September 2006 that just 7 percent of people in rural areas have access to clean drinking water.
From: LAWYER JAMESON ARUNA
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Date Posted: 11:37:44 04/12/07 ()
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Peter Tucker amendments want office of Attorney General and Minister of Justice separated
From: concerned
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Date Posted: 11:24:35 04/12/07 ()
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Here is a list of people who got awards from the President. APCers count your folks, the SLPP believes in a culture of oneness and inclusion. If you are exceptional, you get award without fear or favor.
From: Okoru Dog
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Date Posted: 19:22:59 04/12/07 ()
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You bikfool lek okuru dog
From: LAWYER JAMESON ARUNA
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Date Posted: 11:18:47 04/12/07 ()
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Because of a security breach on this forum, my E-mail was leaked to Awareness Times newspaper for publication yesterday. This has caused a serious problem for me in the past several hours.
Apparently, the perpetrator( s) was/were not only after PMDC, lest would not have singled out my E-mail for publica tion amongst all the exchanges of E-mails that followed the announcement of the PMDC running mate on April 7, 2007.
Because of that, I no longer have the moral authority or credence to write pro-PMDC leadership articles, press releases or memos. I will waste the time of all the hard working PMDCers with unfaltering devotion to the movement if I insist on holding the position as the Communications Director—PMDC- USA.
I strongly believe in building a third force out of PMDC when I joined the movement; a force that would bridge the great north and south divide I always speak of and one that would preach nationalism as opposed to regionalism or eth nicity. That is what I saw in PMDC, when I took the radical move to join politics prematurely. I still have that strong conviction that PMDC will provide that third force, and I will be steadfast in my efforts to help accomplish that goal together with all the hard working and devoted members of this movement.
Nonetheless, to save members further trouble from attracting further attacks on the movement; I humbly present to you the foregoing as a formal letter to relieve myself off the responsibility of the Communications Director for PMDC-USA.
Notwithstanding, I remain a humble and devoted member of the movement,
Karamoh Kabba
But before you crucify him, please go down just this segment of memory lane:
From: CHEZ WINAKABS EUROPE?
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Date Posted: 11:35:54 04/12/07 ()
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You are not the only victim of such viollations. One thing I'll always say is that those who think they can harm others by trying to 'grass' them are mistaken. the people you give such secrets or information to will disrespect you for life. they will know that at some point in time and space you are capable of doing the same to them. My rights to anonymity and privacy were violated on this forum. I tried to enquire about this and it went on deaf ears. No one noticed my concerns. Some day we will all understand that 'grassing' for your own benefit is only detrimental to yourself and takes away that joy and fulfillment of life. Honi soit qui mal y pense!!!
From: concerned
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Date Posted: 11:26:11 04/12/07 ()
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Bye...One down more to follow.
From: concerned
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Date Posted: 07:46:05 04/12/07 ()
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did Kanji refuse to hire a competent man or did Mr Massaquoi provide a fake certificate( MBA) from Howard University?
From: CHEZ WINAKABS EUROPE
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Date Posted: 12:04:32 04/12/07 ()
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To answer your question as whether Kanji deliberately refused to hire a competent man or it was that Mr Massaquoi provided a fake certificate( MBA) from Howard University - one will have to know Mr. Massaquoi's version of events. Secondly, i will need to find out why kanja chose to go to the papers to publish his letter to president kabbah on the matter of massaquoi. The last but not the least, on eneeds to confirm from Howard University that mr. massaquoi was a graduand and the year he graduated. Aside these, I cannot help with your question or else Dr. nahim will issue a warrant for me to be apprehended and taken immediately to Kissy - which i do not want at this present time.
From: DR. ABDUL NAHIM
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Date Posted: 12:08:19 04/12/07 ()
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Chez,
From: CHEZ WINAKABS EUROPE
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Date Posted: 12:40:40 04/12/07 ()
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Thank you my Dr. I am only concern that a minister will go down that road. In Sierra leone, there is a an industrial and employment resolutory board that one may complain and that is the board the minister has a right to answer to. There are codes of ethics on employment and recruitment. If someone is not happy that you didi not employ them, ignore them until they approach the proper forum for you to defend yourself. if what you said is true - MASSAQUOI IS NOT A VERY CLEVER MAN - he has now destroy his integrity far and beyond Sierra Leone and a plus for kanja. Kanja should not have allowed himself to go down the road of contacting a neswpaper to defend their actions. What is the Sierra Leone labour Congress doing? They can assist individuals and government in such a case!
From: Cee Bah
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Date Posted: 15:53:52 04/12/07 ()
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I don't agree with you Chez,
From: CHEZ WINAKABS EUROPE
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Date Posted: 16:14:53 04/12/07 ()
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Yes I know his dispensation. i still believe we have to find a way to allow our leaders to behave in a certain manner. A commissioner should have a press office and it is that press office that decides to follow protocol or not. The Commisioner, being the head, should be looking at other important matters and let his press office deal with such issues. His office is the first of its kind in Sierra Leone and is a very powerful office.
From: Let the Truth Prevail
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Date Posted: 12:55:36 04/12/07 ()
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Let us assume Mr. Daramy had not relpied to Mr. Massaquoi, then the same newspaper that published Mr. Massaquoi`s letter will be making all kinds of noise about corruption within the commission. I think so far, Mr. Daramy did the right thing.
I think Mr. Daramy have started a very good precedent. We don`t have to allow false information like those to go unanswered
From: Chez Winaklabs Europe
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Date Posted: 13:16:31 04/12/07 ()
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There are channels to address such innuendos. i still believe it was inappropriate and uncalled for. A leader should follow protocol. His precendence is a recipe for disloyalty. Asd a leader you follow proper procedures for reporting and not independent journals. let the bodies you are answerable to make the statements. if this is to happen in every parastatal or state body - if simply means we do not have confidence in bodies supposed to watch over such matters. The papers should have advised mr. massaquoi to take the matter to the body resposnsible for employment discrimination (which exists in Sierra leone)and then the body will look at the matter and address it. The body will conduct an enquiry, it it is meritorious; inviting the press and the findings will then be published by the body and not the ministry or parastatal. We emulate the workings of the west; why can't we attempt to do like them? i will encourage all to follow what is the incarnation of our system of governance and we will progress and have a peaceful society.
From: Observer
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Date Posted: 08:16:03 04/12/07 ()
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Does it make any difference in a place where people appoint themselves as journalists and claim to be doctors when they are not?
Looking at his performance, wouldn't you even question Kabbah's Ph.D claim? Sa Lone is a country of square pegs in round holes, and the reason why things are as they are.
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 10:29:11 04/12/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Correction, please, Mr. Oberver.
From: CHEZ WINAKABS EUROPE?
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Date Posted: 11:15:29 04/12/07 ()
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Not forgetting, my friend Pa kabbah also got a Doctor Honoraris Causa at bradford University in the UK last year. See link below. In trhe UK, we do not award degrees without showing exceptionality.
From: Dr. Abdul Nahim
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Date Posted: 11:20:12 04/12/07 ()
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Hello Truth,
From: CHEZ WINAKABS EUROPE
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Date Posted: 11:42:30 04/12/07 ()
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Not today! Will be there tomorrow. just enjoying some chilled Nigerian Guinness so are go crase more for you.
From: The Truth will prevail
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Date Posted: 14:16:06 04/12/07 ()
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What if Mr. Daramy had not reacted at all, will be expressing the same concerns about following protocols?
From: The Truth will prevail
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Date Posted: 13:38:17 04/12/07 ()
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What if Mr. Daramy had not reacted at all, will be expressing the same concerns about following protocols?
From: CHEZ WINAKABS EUROPE
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Date Posted: 13:47:11 04/12/07 ()
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It would have been a winner, if he had followed protocols/procedures! he is the head for God's sakes and no one can take that away from him. The buck stops at his table. I am no dunce; therefore, i will say, i think his action carries some undertone!
From: The Triuth will prevail
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Date Posted: 14:43:16 04/12/07 ()
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You keep refering to protocols/procedure. Remember Mr. Massaquoi did not take the commission to court about discrimination, instead he went to the newspapers. As far as I am concerned, Mr. Massaquoi was the one who was supposed to have followed the protocols/procedures you are talking about. If Mr. Daramy or the commision was taken to, the the onus will be upon them to follow the rules of the court.
Whether the action of Mr. Daramy has an undertone as you said, he was not the first one who took the matter to the court of public opinion. Mr. Massaquoi did and therefore let the court of public opinion rule.I dvise that you read the article on standard times on line and see whether Mr. Massaquoi has more undertone in this matter than Mr. Daramy. Let us give credit where credit is due, procedure no procedure, Mr. Daramy did the right thing by exposing the lies of Mr. Massaquoi. Probably in Europe fraud is not taken seriously, but in the US, fraud is a serious offence and you can`t lie on your application and expect to be employed.
From: M. Alieu Iscandari esq
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Date Posted: 18:46:45 04/12/07 ()
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"Mr. Massaquoi did not take the commission to court about discrimination,"
From: CHEZ WINAKABS EUROPE
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Date Posted: 15:12:52 04/12/07 ()
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I am not in disagreement with you. Yes massaquoi started the media issue. However, I am convinced that as a head you do not tread the same silly paths of employeees or intending employees.
From: The Truth Will Prevail
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Date Posted: 15:41:26 04/12/07 ()
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But what about our brothers and sister who will buy these papers along Siaka Stevens and read the story and have different interpretation. They are not going to sit by and start asking about procedure. To them, Massaquoi is right. I read somethime ago when the media in Freetown was calling the information 'the mumu' minister. Sometimes it is essentail for these government officials to set the records straight in the media.
From: Chez Winbakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 15:58:18 04/12/07 ()
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You are correct about the man in the street reading the news and belieivng it to be true! This is why it is important to have some form of procedure to aid offcials in issues like these. This incident should help us forge a way forward in provind a platform that is away from the ministry to make such pronouncements as rebutting allegations or lies by non-officials.
From: Correction
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Date Posted: 10:58:15 04/12/07 ()
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There was also a move at the University to award NPRC's Capt. Strasser a doctorate. But the attempt was squelched as going too far.
From: concerned
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Date Posted: 11:02:02 04/12/07 ()
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"Strasser finished secondary school; Stevens did not".
who was/is the smarter of the two? Stevens or Strasser? ust asking nor cuss do yah.Alieu, babybob...
From: Office of National Security
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Date Posted: 04:33:16 04/12/07 ()
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The New Citizen, Awoko
Security: Armed youths train in Eastern Kono district
The New Citizen reports of a strange development in three chiefdoms (Nimikoro, Nimiyama & Sandoh) in the diamondiferous Kono district where the training of armed vigilantes is taking place in the name of providing internal security without reference to the Sierra Leone Police. The training of the armed men in this region has attracted the concern of the Office of National Security (ONS). Concerned citizens are worried over the young men being trained because to carry arms without State approval may spark off a state of instability especially with elections just around the corner.
From: MARAKEH KABBA
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Date Posted: 23:17:30 04/11/07 ()
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N'far,
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 22:14:51 04/11/07 ()
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I, Albert Moinina, supporter of the PMDC would like to know from Mr. Margai by whatever means through whatever medium how he came to choose his running mate. Most importantly, was Mr. Tejan Jalloh on the list of those submitted by the public which he had requested? If NO, why?
(PMDC and Margai Supporter)
From: Observer
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Date Posted: 09:27:01 04/12/07 ()
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It will help us if you guys can tell us what your party's constitution says about the process of choosing a running mate.
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 09:57:56 04/12/07 ()
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"It will help us if you guys can tell us what your party's constitution says about the process of choosing a running mate." - Observer
From: What is was Not
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Date Posted: 10:38:48 04/12/07 ()
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Was it a one man show? Was it public or secret? Was it collegial or one-manic? -JL
From: CHEZ WINAKABS EUROPE
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Date Posted: 12:27:04 04/12/07 ()
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I will unequivocally assert that the PMDC manifesto was not compiled from findings of a consultative process. It was done by a handful of disgruntled SLPP backsliders.
From: Lamin
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Date Posted: 12:44:06 04/12/07 ()
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liek the man told John Leigh, get back yo the issue of the Slpp conbention. That is the worst display of undemocracy in Sa Lon's history. Why don't you talk about that, like the man asked Leigh.
From: CHEZ WINAKABS EUROPE
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Date Posted: 13:05:38 04/12/07 ()
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I have no doubt that we all aspire to practice democracy! Kindly tell me what you would call what happened at the selection, by Charles margai, of the running mate. How many prospective candidates did he have? Was the selected ever listed? What were the wishes of his ardent supporters?
From: Lamin
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Date Posted: 13:17:47 04/12/07 ()
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You are missing the issue. The issue is not the selection of a running mate by an elected prsidential candidate.
From: CHEZ WINAKABS EUROPE
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Date Posted: 13:43:47 04/12/07 ()
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I do not like mentioning names but today, I am forced to reveal a name of one of the most reputable Sierra leoneans who presided over the conbduct of the onvention - dr. boima. I asked him about the convention late last year and he told me it was fair. This is a man I so admire and adore and i know he will not lie to me. John leigh's premature accusations were driven by false-consciousness. he believed that his bribes will work and you know what our people are? they take your money because you want to corrupt them and after chopping it they go back to who they believe is the real man. That real man would not have given them a penny. take my matter for instance, i had some dough and I thought I was ripe enough to serve my country. I expended all that dough on supporters as I was expecting a premuim of $1,000.000.00 to prepare for a show down with my party, The National Independent Party (NIP) for the 2007 elections. A sudden lapse ensued and I saw that I was not ready for my people. Anger and empathy for my people, without aforethought, prompted me to impetuously challenge the leaders of my party. i was amongst a lot of supporters who believed my true and brave heart for Sierra Leone. What happened next? My subsconscious told me otherwise and i decided to let my anger and empathy born in preparation to dispense such within. We cannot become enlightened by imagining figures of light but by making the darkness conscious.
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 11:09:43 04/12/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Are you aware that Mr. Margai claimed that it was he that wrote the present SLPP Constitution that made the Makeni ConBention possible?
From: What it Was Not
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Date Posted: 11:30:47 04/12/07 ()
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The only issue is why you accused Berewa of corruption only to extol his honesty when you ran out of options to position yourself to recoup your bribe (I mean Investment) in Kabbah's administration?
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 11:39:40 04/12/07 ()
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You've got it all wrong. But if you really wish me to engage in any further discussion with you on this or similar matters, you must debate me under your real name just as I am doing under my own name. And after verifying your truth identity, I'll respond
From: What it Was Not
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Date Posted: 12:02:33 04/12/07 ()
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This is not about me. Tell us why you think i've got it all wrong.
From: concerned
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Date Posted: 11:04:42 04/12/07 ()
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"Charity begins at home". exactly...if can't let democracy reign in your party, you do not believe in inclusion, how can you lead a nation that is democratic? Are we seeing a Posible BLACK GEORGE BUSH IN SA LONE?
From: You Dae Ask Wo dat Die
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Date Posted: 11:34:51 04/12/07 ()
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Are we seeing a Posible BLACK GEORGE BUSH IN SA LONE?
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 09:02:23 04/12/07 ()
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Mr. Moinina has raised a critical issue deserving of respectful consideration by every serious-minded Sierra Leonean. No one ought, therefore, to respond lightly or with attacks against him or the SLPP, the PMDC or some other party or individual as far as this particular matter is concerned.
From: CHARLES MARGAI
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Date Posted: 23:13:30 04/11/07 ()
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Without me, there is no PMDC. Let us face it, it is because of me that small chickens like you are shouting all over the place.If I, Charles Margai decide to leave the PMDC today, then the PMDC is dead and gone.
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 03:07:56 04/12/07 ()
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Sierra Leone Diamond Company held second sale of diamonds
http://www.diamondworld.net/newsroom/news.asp?newsid=999
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 08:58:49 04/12/07 ()
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thats right we are gpoing to be having tourists dressed in Black Abaya on the beaches in Freetown. Did the government pay for this trip?
From: KABS KANU
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Date Posted: 07:32:37 04/12/07 ()
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CORNELIUS,
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 23:31:50 04/11/07 ()
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So called Mr. Margai, I hope you are learning from us that some of us are looking for true leaders and not blind followers. We will continue to ask questions where we do not feel comfortable and I do not throw things under the carpet.
From: Rude Man
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Date Posted: 23:27:36 04/11/07 ()
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Take your rudeness somewhere else. Your SLPP is not an alternative to even think of considering. It is rotten with stinking and rotten politicians.
From: Tribal Man
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Date Posted: 02:22:32 04/12/07 ()
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Let him take his tribalism somewhere else too. His SLPP is fit only for the dustbin of hsitory. That's where it be thrown come July 28.
From: DBK
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Date Posted: 23:07:26 04/11/07 ()
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things fall apart....wole soyinka
From: JOHNNY
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Date Posted: 05:12:24 04/12/07 ()
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Correction _Things fall apart...Chinua Achebe
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 08:51:48 04/12/07 ()
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ROTFLMMFAO. Please dont be cruel he really didnt read it in school. Just shows you how many DUMMIES we have in our midst
From: concerned
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Date Posted: 11:06:23 04/12/07 ()
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that was probably an honest mistake. Quick to call people dummies when you are not far from being a DUMMY YOURSELF.
From: M. Alieu iscandari esq
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Date Posted: 11:21:56 04/12/07 ()
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YAP DUMMIES LIKE YOU WHO WOWULD NOT USE YOUR OWN NAME TO RESPOND TO A POST
From: charles
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Date Posted: 11:34:52 04/12/07 ()
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and why don't you quit posting as babybob. If you deny ar go pull you waiet nar do....
From: concerned
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Date Posted: 11:26:53 04/12/07 ()
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yap you don vex.
From: LAWYER JAMESON ARUNA
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Date Posted: 19:45:39 04/11/07 ()
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Running Mate Dombolo Hits PMDC IN SIERRA LEONE
By Karamoh Kabba—Comm. & Media NEC-USA
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A secret series of memos sent to the inner PMDC caucus has been leaked to Awareness Times yesterday. In one of the memos, the PMDC’s vocal Director of Communications, Karamoh Kabbah who has refused to issue out a Press Release in support of Dr. I.I. Tejan Jalloh’s selection, describes Lawyer Charles Margai in grossly unfavourable terms. The memo was written in response to a thinly veiled threat from another PMDC member which stated that the PMDC would stoutly react to anyone who dared to derail the PMDC over the choice of Dr. I.I. Tejan Jalloh as Running mate instead of Accountant Dauda Tombo Bangura.
It can be recalled that like the recently resigned Hashim Daboh, Karamoh Kabba has been one of the staunchest supporters and pro-PMDC writers over the last one year. His remarks therefore as we have published today, might shock and concern PMDC partisans and sympathisers worldwide especially in the wake of the very unsavoury descr1ption of Charles Margai by Hashim Daboh last week.
When Awareness Times contacted Karamoh Kabba late last night in the USA to verify the authenticity of the memo, he merely responded, “PMDC business is the least of my worries right now. I have better things to think about right now than PMDC.”
When we pressed him to elaborate if indeed he described Charles Margai as having an “untrustworthy leadership style”, he responded back sarcastically, “Does Charles Margai strike you as someone trustworthy? You make the judgment call. I am too busy to talk about C.F. Margai right now.”
Below, is the exchange as leaked to Awareness Times from PMDC Inner Caucus
ORIGINAL MEMO KARAMOH IS RESPONDING TO:
From: pmdcmember@yahoo.com
To: pmdcsl@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 1:11 PM
Subject: Dr. I.I. Tejan Jalloh is PMDC Running Mate
My brother, let us learn to accept our leader’s decision and move on for the betterment of our party and country. Any attempts by anyone to derail that process will be met with a very stout reaction, period.
KARAMOH KABBA’S REACTIONARY MEMO:
From: karamohslylhorg@aol.com
To: pmdcsl@yahoogroups.com
Cc: pmdcusa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: Dr. I.I. Tejan Jalloh is PMDC Running Mate
Compatriots:
Let me first start with a word of advise: whether we agree or disagree with the leader, we take no disruptive path to this serious problem in front of the movement, especially if we disagree with him.
We have reached at a junction in this movement where two roads lead to the unknowns on a “Long walk to freedom.” Though our final destination is a common one as members of a movement, we may meet again at another folk down the lane to continue that journey. Those of us who are interested in a movement than in a strongman show will continue to walk on a different path.
With all due respect, we are going to stand for and speak for the people of the North, who have been asked to help choose a running mate only for their views to be trampled upon without regards by one man for someone who was not even amongst the chosen few or hardly been heard of in the movement. They say; “Many are called but only few are chosen.”
Not many are called but only few are chosen from nowhere. This has confounded many of us. We would have had no problem with the process if the leader had taken his sole prerogative in completing the task of choosing his running mate without putting the people of the North through the just completed runaround. Now, grounded in what I know about Charles Francis Margai, trust has certainly become the issue for me. I personally refuse to support a leadership that would endanger our people once more for the reasons below:
* Charles Francis Margai recently said in a press conference that he is the only qualified person to lead the movement. Whatever that meant, he refused to explain to us when I impressed on him for explanation through the NEC-USA executive.
* During the Trans-Atlantic tour, he called himself a benevolent dictator and engaged a defensive mode when critiqued.
* He recognized the CDF in the recently completed national conference as a legal entity by threatening the international community he will ask the CDF for protection if they fail to protect him without calling the CDF “former CDF” as opposed to “CDF” because he refuses to allow anyone to contribute to his public statements and speeches. Such an unintended endorsement or proclamation of these former warring factions is entirely an anathema to the peace process.
* Recently he called a meeting with the diasporan community and failed to attend without a valid excuse only for us to learn later that he forgot about us. More seriously was Dr. Jarrett talked to us on his behalf, giving reasons for his absence that turned out not to be true.
* Report from the Ass. Sec. Gen. for NEC-USA was entirely inline with the above observations. It is disturbing that the Diasporan community was ill-treated when for joking that they had a challenger to his leadership at the national convention, only for him to apologize later to the diasporan delegates upon learning that it was a prank.
* Charles Francis Margai’s process of choosing his running mate entirely outside his set criteria regardless of who was not chosen only confirms everything above including the Ass. Sec. Gen.’s gloomy report.
Though I will remain a part of the movement, I have no trust in its present leader that preaches one thing and does entirely another. As a grassroots member of the movement, I respectfully disagree with Charles Francis Margai for not staying within the chosen few based on his own criteria, and the foregoing is an attempt to make my position known.
But let me warn everyone that the looming teardown syndrome of the movement would only start when those in the presidential campaign camp attempt to marginalize us for disagreeing with them. And I will further warn, at that time, I will join the struggle to finish such teardown syndrome by using the facts at hand and in my role as a social commentator of our society. I am going to sit back and watch him continue to knock himself out. I wish Charles Francis Margai good luck. We shall meet at another fork after five years down the lane.
Karamoh Kabba—Comm. & Media NEC-USA
Submitted on this day, April 7, 2007
NOW, I AM WAITING FOR STOUT REACTION
From: JOHNNY
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Date Posted: 05:21:26 04/12/07 ()
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It is Charles margai decision to select whoever he wants for running mate.It is the interest of Sierra leone for all within the party to unite and fight the election. I now have serious doubts about the intentions of former PMDC trumpeters! like Karamoh Kaba and others who are now behaving like spoilt kids just because they disagree with CFM's choice of running mate. O how glad Berewa and his thieving SLPP cohorts must be.
From: Berewa
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Date Posted: 12:31:54 04/12/07 ()
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Nor mix me dae pan una nonsens en norshe norshe.
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 20:54:29 04/11/07 ()
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I TOLD YOU ........
AND IF HE ART YOU, YOU KIN DIE........
IF YOU NOR LEK AM, GO BUTT ELEFANT BEHEN.....
KUKUJUMUKU OH
From: Rudeness
To: All
Date Posted: 02:42:28 04/12/07 ()
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Told us what? That you are rude? That you are tribalistic? And a blind SLPP apologist?
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 23:54:24 04/12/07 ()
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And you should go care yourself of intolerance. Morfor
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 17:41:39 04/12/07 ()
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What makes you think I am SLPP? Does criticising the PMDC automatically make me SLPP? And what makes me tribalistic? When have you ever seen make make tribalistic statements on this forum or anywhere else?
From: Rudeness
To: All
Date Posted: 08:22:22 04/13/07 ()
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Behave Yourself. If you are not intelligent enough to debate, please keep quiet and let intelligent people debate. You might learn how to behave from them, even though that will not make you inteligent or untribalistic.
From: Independent Man
To: All
Date Posted: 13:28:21 04/13/07 ()
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Intolerat Clown,
Those who call other tribalistic turn out to be the tribalistic ones.
I will continue to criticize the political parties as I see fit. If you do not like it, GO BUTT ELEPHANT BEHEN....
From: Rudeness
To: All
Date Posted: 15:07:15 04/13/07 ()
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Like I said, yuou bear your burden for the durationn of your sad life. That is not by my say-so. It is what God has marked for you. You may call your rudeness criticism because you are also dumb, but better get used to being rude and tribalistic for as long as you darken out enlightened debates. That is your reality. There's no changing it.
From: Independent Man
To: All
Date Posted: 13:47:05 04/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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You people are too intolerant. You call someone rude and tribalistic simply because they criticise the party you support. Your calling others dumb exposes your own stupidity. I bet you, I have achieved more in life than you, and have contributed more to Sa Lone than you.
You stupid MORFOR....
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 18:38:49 04/11/07 ()
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From: wascalleh
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Date Posted: 21:36:43 04/11/07 ()
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bra me nor go book watin dis mean nar some kine of debul sign? or nar some lodge man sign. Enti you no say me nar Igberi
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 23:08:10 04/11/07 ()
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Check yu mail Igberi!
From: Wascalleh
To: All
Date Posted: 08:45:55 04/12/07 ()
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ar don geh de address, Ogbodo
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 15:47:36 04/11/07 ()
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Friends This is an appeal for us to come together for the funeral of our brother Nasiru Koker who died in Philadelphia last Tuesday after a very long Illness. Nasiru had been suffering from Kidney Failure and was on Dialysis while he was in california. In Philadelphia he suffered from Kidney failure which led to a CVA (Stroke). He had been hospitalized in a Nursing home ofr the better part of the past two years.
10338 Sagress way
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Your responses will be appreciated. may his soul rest in peace.
From: BUFORD HWY
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BRA ALIEU,
IT WILL BE A GREAT IDEA IF YOU OR THE FAMILY MEMBERS CAN OPEN UP A "MEMORIAM ACCOUNT" AT ANY ONE OF THESE BIG NAMES BANKS FOR OUR LATE BROTHER MR NASIRU KOKER SO THAT DONATIONS CAN GET IN QUICKLY,AND BE ABLE TO RECIEVE AND USE THEM FOR THE FUNERAL SERVICE.
From: M. Alieu Iscandari esq
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Date Posted: 17:51:06 04/11/07 ()
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Great idea and I will send the information to his sister Lilian
From: TEGLOMA
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Ladies and Gentlemen:
From: BUFORD HWY
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Date Posted: 12:21:30 04/11/07 ()
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Sierra Leone can be a better PLACE, if we work together as ONE.
From: LAWYER JAMESON ARUNA
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Date Posted: 11:54:49 04/11/07 ()
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Freetown newspapers today carried leaked emails from PMDC members in which they questioned the credibility of Margai. Karamoh Kabbah's email to PMDC members was very harsh. He called Margai a dictator and a liar.
From: Food for thought
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(Culled from the Kansas City Star)
Instead of wasting time on irrelevant shock jock, black leaders need to be fighting a growing gangster culture.
JASON WHITLOCK
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 11:15:44 04/11/07 ()
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Well, the world of perspectives is very round. We are influenced by some of the ideas we come in touch with.
From: Cee Bah
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Date Posted: 16:05:20 04/12/07 ()
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This is interesting. I have been following this case and I think that too much is being made out of it.
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 08:38:46 04/11/07 ()
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In concluding his acceptance speech, Hon. Charles Francis Margai makes an impressive roundup of PMDC’s ambitions intentions, all delivered herein by the Hon. Charles Margai and as promised, he said what he was going to say in Her Majesty’s English which is also the official language of Sierra Leone, and in this case, the type of English that would have made John Ernest Leigh proud of the CKC:
“Now ladies and gentlemen, having heard the requirements in the constitution, the president and therefore vice president, must be of age 40 at least. Little wonder that a young man for whom I have the greatest respect, was toying with the idea of challenging me, but I had done my homework, I got a copy of his birth certificate, he is three years short of 40. So he adviced himself. So you must be 40. What the constitution has not addressed, there is a minimum age, but there is no optimum age. PMDC intends to address that. It will be either 70 or 75 - all of us will decide that. If that were the case, we would not be having octogenarians who are suffering from tripanosomiasis. They sleep wherever they go. And last but not the least, to show that PMDC means business and to ensure transparency - at the movement there is a lacuna in the provision whereby before you are appointed a minister, you have to appear before the parliamentary screening committee to declare your assets. But what has not been done is, there is no declaration when you leave office. PMDC is going to supply that which will make, to at least, within a reasonable time before you depart from your office, you will have again to state your assets and to justify if there have been recent acquisition or acquisitions, from the time you took over, up to the time you are retiring. I thank you very much, may God bless us all. It is my pleasure ladies and gentlemen, to formally accept the honour bestowed on me as leader and presidential candidate of this noble party. Thank you very much, and may God bless us all. “
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 10:35:06 04/11/07 ()
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Decisive "Do as I say" PMDC leadership style:
Now all you lesser PMDC members have to do is to ratify his decision, that's what he means by ”all of us will decide that" (”that" = "either 70 or 75"
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 16:50:24 04/11/07 ()
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Karamor,
Na yu noh moh ah wan ambug - gee you cause for talk.
"Us" is the same as "we" who
will decide the fate of PMDC.
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 16:57:56 04/11/07 ()
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Karamoh,
”at the movement there is a lacuna in the provision whereby before you are appointed a minister, you have to appear before the parliamentary screening committee to declare your assets. But what has not been done is, there is no declaration when you leave office. PMDC is going to supply that which will make, to at least, within a reasonable time before you depart from your office, you will have again to state your assets and to justify if there have been recent acquisition or acquisitions, from the time you took over, up to the time you are retiring. "
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 11:01:37 04/11/07 ()
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That PMDC family get-together acceptance speech:
Ex-PMDC Darboh ( and perhaps Kelfala Kallon ) fears that should they win, then – event-ually - the woebegone & downtrodden people will be complaining about PMDC and Charles Margai’s misrule, by decree, already started when he say not ” should” but ”WILL BE ”
Why not WE will (all) decide”?
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 08:29:42 04/11/07 ()
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[The following posting is presented here, courtesy of SALONEDiscussion@yahoogroups.com, in a continuing effort to empower our fellow S/Leoneans by sharing with them information that is relevant to the development of our country. The name of my correspondent is disclosed with his prior permission].
--- In SALONEDiscussion@yahoogroups.com, MohmJ@... wrote on April 11, 2007:
>
In a message dated 1/31/2007 8:18:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Amadu Massally writes:
Amadu:
From: Knice
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Date Posted: 09:29:52 04/12/07 ()
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I am not familiar with the mission of Peter Tucker and cannot directly comment on what he is up to. I think that whatever document Mr. Tucker and his committee come up with are merely proposals and recommendations.
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 10:35:26 04/12/07 ()
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Knice writes on April 12, 2007:
"It is our country too; and not Tejan Kabbah's alone; and not Siaka Stevens' alone; and not the personal property of other future megalomaniacs. Tejan Kabbah has enjoyed twelve years to work his magic and must now await the verdict of history to find his proper place. The least he owes us at this point is total freedom of choice to continue his policies or change directions as we judge to be in our best interests."
From: Amidu Conteh
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Date Posted: 10:57:30 04/11/07 ()
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Mr. Jalloh I agree with all your replies to Dr. Tucker except #5. Don't you think the salone president should not be dragged to court by any jack or jill, like the APC are doing to their leader now?
From: STOP
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Date Posted: 11:01:53 04/11/07 ()
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ALIEU, STOP. GROW UP.
From: Never Again
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Date Posted: 10:37:55 04/11/07 ()
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I say to these kalu kalu recycled slpp politicians like Tucker and kabba that you do not mess with salone's constitution.
From: Emmerson
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Date Posted: 11:25:26 04/11/07 ()
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den feel say salone nar farm
wae dem go tiff fiti fata
di youths den don tinap firm
Tiffman nar far broke him teet
From: ok dok
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Date Posted: 12:11:52 04/11/07 ()
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Any one that needs to change our couintry needs to be the change the country wants.
From: KABS KANU
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Date Posted: 08:00:37 04/11/07 ()
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If
From: Sengbe
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Date Posted: 10:39:55 04/11/07 ()
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Reverend, I just heard about his untimely death yesterday. His sister, Lilian, I was told, is heading the funeral arrangements in Philadelphia. I am trying to contact her so that I can send my own contribution to her, and if possible make the trip to Philadelphia for the funeral.
From: Amazing
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Date Posted: 10:53:21 04/11/07 ()
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However, your proximity to Philly puts you in a better position for answers to those questions.-- Sengbe
From: STOP
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Date Posted: 10:57:21 04/11/07 ()
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ALIEU, STOP IT.ALIEU, STOP.
From: M. Alieu iscandari esq
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Date Posted: 11:03:42 04/11/07 ()
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To whomever this person is. I did not post as Amazing and nasiru was my friend and mentee nand would do nothing to bring his memory to the gutter. This is about the death of a Good briother and my advise is that we honor his memory.
From: Sengbe
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Date Posted: 12:24:38 04/11/07 ()
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"...But Amazing is right though shouldnt Sengbe as a family member know more about this funeral than any of us?..."
From: M. Alieu Iscandari esq
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Date Posted: 15:07:37 04/11/07 ()
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Why the unusual interest all of a sudden?
From: STOP
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Date Posted: 11:05:17 04/11/07 ()
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YOU ARE DISGUSTING. YOU ARE BEHAVING LIKE A LITTLE KID.
From: SK
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what is disgusting is that a family member asks for information about his relative's funeral from a stranger.
From: Sengbe
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Date Posted: 12:07:27 04/11/07 ()
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And who did that?
From: babybob
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However, your proximity to Philly puts you in a better position for answers to those questions.
From: M. Alieu iscandari esq
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Date Posted: 12:16:05 04/11/07 ()
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I want to make it quite clear that I did not post as Amazing or as SK and those of us Posinbg as friends of Nasiru were real friends of him. I did right by him and my conscience ios clear on that issue. Noww I hope your asides do not include me. Nasiru is dead and if I were you I would not respond to anyone who wants to denigrate his memory by picking a fight with you.
From: M. Alieu iscandari Esq.
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Date Posted: 10:51:06 04/11/07 ()
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I will be in touch with Lilian in Sacramentoi California and make my own contributions to her. may he rest in peace
From: APC
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Date Posted: 07:04:30 04/11/07 ()
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Does this ML Bangura who is causing discord in our party is the son of Dondodo?
From: Fact
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Na mandingo man, agba satani ihn cozin
From: Independent Man
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How the APC Stole the 1967 Elections: A Reply to E. T. Kamara
(Source: Cocorioko News)
By Kelfala M. Kallon
Greeley, Colorado
Frankly, I am surprised that E.T. did not claim that the murder of Sam Bangura, former Governor of the Bank of Sierra Leone, was also engineered by the SLPP. He might yet claim that it was SLPP which instigated APC youths to beat up people on the streets of Freetown in 1968 for the mere sin of speaking Mende, as well as the violence that they meted out to Fullahs during the same period. While he is at it, why not blame the SLPP for the Gingerhall and Dworzak bombings? As he gets rolling, E.T. might even pin the efficient stuffing of ballot boxes that led to 105 percent of the Sierra Leonean electorate approving the One Party referendum in 1978 on the ghost of Sir Milton.
E.T’s recent hyperbole is so offensive to any thoughtful Sierra Leonean’s intellect that we should perhaps charitably explain it as a vain attempt by a key member of an ignominious cabal, which transformed an otherwise peaceful and democratic Sierra Leone into a One Party Gestapo, to get his five minutes of fame. Ordinarily, I would have granted him his wish. However, because E.T. is very aware of the truth about how the APC stole the 1967 elections, but, nevertheless, resorted to propagating the greatest lie and conspiracy in Sierra Leone’s political history in order to make his case, I have decided to take his assertions head-on. Accordingly, the objective of this essay is to show that, contrary to the popularly-received APC propaganda, it was indeed the APC, not the SLPP, that planned and executed a constitutional coup in Sierra Leone when Siaka Stevens used his influential Krio supporters to pressure the Governor-General, Sir Henry Lightfoot-Boston, to secretly appoint him as Prime Minister in contravention of both the Independence Constitution and a wealth of legal opinion from the highest court in the Commonwealth and constitutional precedents on the subject.
E.T, like everyone who has continued to defend this Great Lie, rests the APC’s case on the conclusion of the Dove-Edwin Commission of Enquiry that the state of the parties after the ordinary-member elections stood at 32 for the APC, 28 for the SLPP, and 6 Independents. Based on these numbers, it was concluded that the APC had won the elections because a constitutional convention allegedly existed that caused the 12 Paramount Chief Members of Parliament to automatically support the Government of the day. According to this wild speculation, the Governor-General, therefore, acted constitutionally when he decided to appoint Siaka Stevens, the APC leader, to the premiership on March 21st even though the results of the Paramount Chief elections were not available to him by then.
Section 58(2) of the Independence Constitution empowered the Governor-General to appoint “a member of the House of Representatives who appears likely to command the support of the majority of the members of the House” whenever the premiership was vacant. Section 58(6) held that the premiership became vacant following the death of the extant premier or “when, after any dissolution of Parliament, the person holding that office is informed by the Governor-General that the Governor-General is about to reappoint him as Prime Minister or to appoint another person as Prime Minister.” Obviously, Parliament had been dissolved and, therefore, the key question was whether Siaka Stevens appeared to command the majority of the members of Parliament which at the time comprised 66 ordinary members and 12 Paramount Chief Members. In British constitutional system, which Mr. Kamara agrees we inherited at independence, “majority” meant “50-percent-plus-one” in the legislature. Thus, to appear to have commanded the support of the majority of the members of the House, whomever the Governor-General appointed needed to command the support of at least 40 members. The question then is whether Siaka Stevens seemed likely to command the support of that many members of Parliament on March 21st when he was appointed Prime Minister by the Governor-General.
In the interest of brevity, I will accept the findings of the Dove-Edwin Commission regarding the state of the parties on March 21, 1967. However, even with this finding, we cannot conclude that the APC had won the elections unless we accept the claim that a constitutional convention existed which made it incumbent on the 12 Paramount Chief Members of Parliament to support the leader of the party that had a plurality among the ordinary members of the House. Therefore, the status of the Paramount Chief members in the Independence Constitution is important in the determination of who really won the 1967 elections – if, indeed, anyone did so.
In the rest of this essay, I will show that the Independence Constitution placed no constitutional handicap on Paramount Chiefs in terms of their rights and privileges in Parliament. Secondly, I will show that no constitutional convention existed to the effect that Paramount Chief Members of Parliament could not choose among Sierra Leone’s political parties. On the contrary, I will demonstrate that a powerful constitutional precedent was set in 1951 when the colonial Governor, Sir Beresford-Stooke, insisted that Paramount Chief members of the Legislative Council vote in order to break a hung Council in which the SLPP had a two-seat plurality over Bankole-Bright’s National Council of the Colony of Sierra Leone (NCCSL) among the non-Chief members but not a majority of the members of the full Council. This is precisely the scenario that developed at the conclusion of the 1967 ordinary-member elections in the sense that the APC was said to have a four-seat plurality among ordinary members, but not a majority of the members of the full House of Representations. Finally, I will show that even if a convention existed that Paramount Chiefs were part and parcel of the Government and could therefore not choose sides in an election, the constitutional tradition in the British Common-wealth held (and still holds) that neither an unelected sovereign (or her representative in this case) nor the courts could enforce constitutional conventions because they are mere informal agreements between political leaders on certain political practices and, as such, they have no statutory effect. But more importantly, I will show that the Privy Council ruling in a 1963 Nigerian constitutional dispute over the Governor-General’s powers to remove the Premier of Western Nigeria (Adegbenro v Akintola and Aderemi) barred Sir Henry Lightfoot-Boston from enforcing a constitutional convention in 1967 even if one had existed.
1. The 1951 Precedent
The SLPP contested the 1951 elections against Paramount Chief candidates in the Protectorate and against the NCCSL in the Colony. At the conclusion of those elections, the SLPP won 4 seats in the Protectorate and 2 of the 8 Colony seats. The Paramount Chiefs won 8 Protectorate seats. Albert Margai and Siaka Stevens, both SLPP members at the time, were appointed by the Protectorate Assembly to represent Protectorate non-chief interests. Thus, at the conclusion of the elections, the SLPP and the Paramount Chiefs each had 8 seats while the NCCSL had 6. On the strength of these results, Sir Milton led an SLPP delegation to the Governor, Sir Beresford-Stooke, to claim victory for the SLPP by virtue of its 2-seat plurality over the NCCSL. The Governor rejected this claim and pointed out that the SLPP’s plurality in the Council did not constitute majority support in the whole Council because an alliance of Chiefs and the NCCSL could defeat the SLPP on any motion – in much the same way as an alliance between the SLPP and the Chiefs could defeat the NCCSL. Moreover, if the SLPP could claim a majority on the basis of their two-seat plurality, so could the Chiefs.
Following this meeting with the Governor, Sir Milton convened a meeting of all Protectorate members of the Council (both Chiefs and non-chiefs) in order to put together a majority coalition for presentation to the Governor. At the conclusion of this meeting, all 16 members of the Protectorate contingent (the 8 SLPP and 8 Paramount Chiefs) signed a letter addressed to the Governor in which they threw their support to the SLPP. However, when it was presented to the Governor, the latter rejected it as ample evidence of an SLPP majority and opted, instead, for a show-of-hands vote at the first session of the new Council. All 8 Paramount Chief Members registered their support for Sir Milton and the SLPP in this show-of-hands vote, thus convincing the Governor that Sir Milton indeed had the support of the majority of the members of Council. Hence, the SLPP victory was recognized and Sir Milton was appointed Chief Minister. This consideration of the preference of the Paramount Chief members of the Sierra Leone legislature in the determination of its leadership was a powerful precedent in the political history of Sierra Leone, which was replicated (without the show-of-hands vote) in every subsequent election until 1967 even though the SLPP majority in those elections was so overwhelming that it made the question of whom the Chiefs supported moot in terms of determining whom to appoint as Prime Minister.
According to Colin Turpin’s British Government and Constitution: Text, Cases and Materials (1995, p. 93), constitutional conventions are created “when political practices are observed with a sufficient regularity [that] there will arise an expectation that they will continue to be observed – and also a general conviction that they ought to be observed.” Three requirements must be met before any given political practice can be deemed a constitutional convention, namely: (1) whether there is precedent for it; (2) whether the actors in the precedent believed they were bound by a rule; and (3) whether there is a reason for the rule.
Obviously, the 1951 precedent satisfied the first requirement for a constitutional convention. The question then is whether the political actors at the time believed that they were creating a rule. To answer this question, we must resort to the following conclusion in Martin Kilson’s Political Change in a West African State: A Study of the Modernization Process in Sierra Leone (Harvard University Press, 1966, p. 267) which was based on his interview with Sir Milton, a key architect of the legislative alliance between the SLPP and the Chiefs:
“The Chiefs, for instance, were for all practical purposes members of the SLPP ever since its inception, and this fact virtually ensured that they would barter their twelve seats in the Legislature in behalf of the SLPP. But it is notable that on each occasion when the Chiefs’ seats were up for barter, it was understood by all concerned that the SLPP had no ascr1ptive right to them. To the extent that the SLPP could gain these seats, it did so in full awareness that the Chiefs did not divest themselves of their obligations to the chiefly elite – and thus of their autonomous vantage point of political action – upon legislative alliance with the SLPP.”
In other words, the political leaders of Sierra Leone fully knew that the 1951 precedent created a rule that the Paramount Chief members of the Sierra Leone legislature had the same rights and privileges as their ordinary-member colleagues in the House of Representatives. Hence, they were not bound by any rule (constitutional or otherwise) to vote in any particular way. In fact, unlike the ordinary members who could be subjected to party disciple and therefore had to follow the party line, the Chiefs, as “sovereign” representatives of their people had no such party restrictions. Finally, even in the midst of all this confusion, the Chiefs exercised their legislative independence after the elections were concluded when 4 declared for the APC while 8 declared for the SLPP even though Siaka Stevens had already been sworn-in as Prime Minister a day earlier. Thus, the true result of the elections was 36 seats for each party and 6 Independents.
In British and Commonwealth constitutional history and practice, this result produced a ‘hung’ Parliament. And as we have seen in countless cases, in such an eventuality, the sitting Prime Minister is first allowed to try to form a “copper-bottom” majority and present it to the sovereign (in the United Kingdom) or the Governor-General in the case of former colonies. If he fails to do so within a reasonable time, the leader of the opposition would then be asked to do likewise. If neither the sitting Prime Minister nor the opposition leader is able to form a “copper-bottom” majority, then any member of the House who is capable of garnering the support of the majority of his/her colleagues could be appointed Prime Minister. And, as Gershon Collier pointed out in his Sierra Leone: Experiment in Democracy in an African Nation (New York University Press, 1970), nothing in the Independence Constitution forbade the Governor-General from appointing a Paramount Chief to the premiership if he/she seemed likely to command the support of the majority in the House.
Did the political actors who created the 1951 precedent believe themselves to be creating a rule? I think that the mere fact that the rule was ultimately incorporated into the Independence Constitution by allowing Paramount Chiefs to serve in a unicameral Parliament with their ordinary member colleagues with the same rights and privileges is ample evidence that the 1951 Precedent satisfied the second requirement for a constitutional convention. Moreover, the reason given by Governor Beresford-Stooke in 1951 – that the government of the day must have the support of the majority of the members of the Legislature, the key requirement in British and Common-wealth constitutional practice – provided a reason for the rule. Therefore, the 1951 precedent satisfies all the three requirements for a given political practice to be seen as a constitutional convention. Hence, in view of the above, we can reasonably conclude that if any constitutional convention existed on the role of Paramount Chiefs in the determination of which member of Parliament seemed likely to command the support of the majority in Parliament, it was that the preferences of the Paramount Chief members were as germane to the question as those of their ordinary-member colleagues.
Therefore, the claim by E.T. Kamara and APC partisans that “Paramount Chiefs ... were not supposed to interfere in elections because they supported only the government of the day” has no historical or constitutional support. The truth is that the first self-government that administered the Sierra Leonean state was determined by the direct “interference” of the Paramount Chief members of Sierra Leone legislature in party politics. Actually, the alleged constitutional convention that the Dove-Edwin Commission manufactured in 1967 was a mere political argument that the Krios and the non-Chief Protectorate intelligentsia (including Albert Margai) had made against a 1924 constitutional proposal for three Paramount Chiefs (2 Mende and 1 Temne) to represent Protectorate interests in the Legislative Council. The fact that the 1924 argument was rejected then did not obviously stop Justice Dove-Edwin from disingenuously repackaging into a political convention to justify the Governor-General’s ethnic-driven unconstitutional transfer of power to Siaka Stevens in March 1967 – a nefarious act that he (Dove-Edwin) had conspired to promote, as I will demonstrate later.
2. The Supremacy of the Constitution over Conventions
I have shown above that Sierra Leone had no constitutional convention that barred Paramount Chief members of her legislature from “interfering” into party politics, as claimed by E.T. Kamara and other apologists for the APC. But assuming that such a convention even existed, would it have been constitutional for Sir Henry Lightfoot-Boston to enforce it in 1967? Here also, the verdict is against the Governor-General, as demonstrated by the fact that the Privy Council ruled on the supremacy of written constitutions over constitutional conventions in Adegbenro v Akintola and Aderemi when it held that “it is in the end the wording of the Constitution itself that is to be interpreted and applied, and this wording can never be overridden by extraneous principles ... which are not explicitly incorporated in the formulae that have been chosen as the frame” for it.
Section 58(2) of the Constitution required Sir Henry Lightfoot-Boston to appoint a member of the House that seemed likely to get the support of the majority of the members of the House. The House, then, included 12 Paramount Chiefs. It is apparent from the Privy Council ruling quoted above that he had no constitutional authority to replace that constitutional provision with a fictitious constitutional convention. The Privy Council’s ruling in the Nigerian case also noted what is perhaps most germane to the debate over the constitutionality of Sir Henry Lightfoot-Boston’s actions on March 21, 1967 – namely, that “so long as the elected House of Representatives is in being, a majority of its members who are prepared to act in cohesion is entitled to determine the effective leadership of the Government of the day.” On March 21, when Sir Henry Lightfoot-Boston decided to appoint Siaka Stevens as Prime Minister, the House was not “in being” because the Paramount Chief elections had not been concluded. As a result, Sir Henry Lightfoot-Boston had no way of knowing whether “a majority of its members who are prepared to act in cohesion” on any issue existed – even with the findings of the Dove-Edwin Commission on the state of the parties following the ordinary member elections.
3. Sierra Leone’s First Coup
Apologists for the APC have consistently claimed that the SLPP mounted Sierra Leone’s first coup d’état because they were bad losers. However, the above analysis demonstrates clearly that Sir Henry Lightfoot-Boston acted unconstitutionally when he decided to appoint Siaka Stevens (in secrecy) to the premiership when no credible evidence existed to the effect that the latter seemed likely to command the majority of the House, which was not even “in being” at the time he made the decision. The question then is why the Governor-General behaved so recklessly as to create a constitutional crisis that eventually led to the suspension of constitutional order in the country.
Because Sir Henry Lightfoot-Boston never provided any explanation for his decision, we need to examine the behavior of the major actors in this drama, beginning with his March 20th meeting with Sir Albert and Siaka Stevens in which he urged the two to form a coalition government in the interest of peace and stability, given that the election results showed an ethnic divide. The Governor-General told the two leaders to return to State House at 10 a.m. on March 22nd with their answer to his proposal. He further indicated to both Margai and Stevens that he would then make his decision about whom to appoint to the premiership after the subsequent meeting. The March 22nd date was crucial because the Governor-General would have received the certified results of the entire elections by then. Just as the British sovereign never appoints a Prime Minister prior to receiving the official election results from the Prime Minister (even though she watches the results on television just like any other Briton), until 1967, no Governor or Governor-General of Sierra Leone had ever appointed a Prime Minister without first receiving a certified result of the elections from the sitting head of Government.
Siaka Stevens, who had been an active participant in the 1951 precedent, knew that he would be effectively defeated by Margai if he waited for the conclusion of the Paramount Chief elections, given the legislative alliance between the Chiefs and the SLPP. In order to forestall this, he went straight to his key Krio supporters and returned with a substantial delegation to State House in order to convince the Governor-General to appoint him as Prime Minister prior to March 22 when the Governor-General would have had incontrovertible evidence on the status of the parties in the House. Notable among this delegation were Bishop M.N.C.O. Scott (then Anglican Bishop of Sierra Leone), Reverend S.M. Renner (an Anglican pastor), Sir Fashole Luke, a Supreme Court justice, and, most notably, Justice E. F. Dove-Edwin, who was to later chair the Commission of Enquiry that pronounced APC as the winner of the 1967 elections on the basis of the fictitious convention that he created to the effect Paramount Chiefs automatically supported the Government of the day. Meanwhile, Sir Albert’s advisers were all in agreement that they should just wait for their Paramount Chief allies to give them the majority in the House.
However, after a night of pressure from this influential delegation of his Krio kinsmen, Sir Henry Lightfoot-Boston made perhaps the most important decision that changed the course of Sierra Leone’s political history; he secretly appointed Siaka Stevens as Prime Minister even though he did not have an official result of the elections. More importantly, this action breached Section 58(6) of the Constitution which required Sir Henry Lightfoot-Boston to first inform Sir Albert that he was not being reappointed to the premiership, thereby creating a vacancy to which Siaka Stevens would have been appointed.
Sir Henry Lightfoot-Boston had been described as a very religious man as well as one of the best legal minds of his time in British West Africa. Additionally, he had served as Chief Justice of the Supreme Court prior to his appointment as Governor-General. Therefore, it is reasonable to conclude that he was (or should have been) aware of his duty under Section 58 of the Constitution, the 1951 precedent, and, most importantly, the Privy Council’s ruling in Adegbenro v Akintola and Aderemi which required him to obey and enforce the wording of Section 58(2) of the Independence Constitution and nothing else. Because any good judge’s worst nightmare is reversal on appeal, I think that the Governor-General initially resisted the pressure from Stevens’ “constitutional” thugs. This perhaps explains why the four key members of the Stevens’ delegation reportedly spent the night of March 20th at State House. I think that he only yielded to the pressure after Justices Luke and Dove-Edwin assured him in a gentlemen’s agreement that they would provide him legal cover if his decision was ever challenged in the courts. (The religious leaders might have also promised him eternal salvation.)
We must also not forget that, given his prestigious legal background, Sir Henry Lightfoot-Boston was also fully aware of his duty to receive political advice from only his Prime Minister. Therefore, his meeting with Stevens and his delegation without the knowledge of his Prime Minister was the height in appropriate behavior. That he made such a momentous decision, on such a grave constitutional issue, in a situation that he (himself) had deemed capable of leading to political instability in the country, without providing an equal opportunity for Margai and his supporters to make their own case to him (in which they would have obviously reminded him of the 1951 precedent) smacks of bias and recklessness, to say the least. Finally, the secrecy around the events at State House on the eve of March 20th causes me to support Gershion Collier’s conclusion that Sir Henry Lightfoot-Boston had bartered his discretionary powers and integrity in order to protect the political interests of his Krio ethnic group which had thrown its support to Siaka Stevens and the APC in the 1967 elections. In this respect, the removal of Sir Albert Margai from the premiership can be seen as nothing more than an ethnically-motivated constitutional coup that was orchestrated by men at the highest echelons of the Sierra Leonean state. Likewise, Brigadier Lansana’s coup, which has been falsely trumpeted as the first coup in Sierra Leone, though equally offensive to constitutional order, was really a counter-coup in order to protect Mende interests. Sadly, this latter coup robbed Sierra Leoneans of the right to legally challenge the Governor-General’s decisions in the courts (all the way to the Privy Council) as the Nigerians had done earlier.
In my Political Economy of Corruption in Sierra Leone, I defined corruption as the use of public power for private-regarding benefits. Given this definition, it is apparent from this essay that, by using state power in defense of their respective ethnic interests, both Sir Henry Lightfoot-Boston and Brigadier Lansana were guilty of political corruption. Thus, political corruption was the cause of Sierra Leone’s 1967 constitutional crisis which eventually cursed us with 26 years of APC misrule.
Conclusion
The grand conclusion of this essay is that, contrary to popular belief, the APC started corrupting Sierra Leone’s political system even before they fraudulently came to power in 1968 and they continued doing so until they were removed from power in 1992. Therefore, the SLPP government should be very vigilant in the current elections because history tells us that the APC are capable of rigging elections even when they are out of office.
Finally, if I had not known any better, I would have explained E.T’s Kamara’s recent utterances as the last desperate whimper of a political dinosaur from a decrepit cabal who is seeking his five minutes of fame and attention. However, being my brother-in-law (he has been married to my elder sibling, Jeneba, for over 40 years), E.T. has read my book on corruption, especially the chapter that deals with the 1967 elections. Additionally, he and I have discussed this issue countless times – the most recent being on Saturday, March 10, 2007 in Denton, Texas, where he currently resides. During this last conversation, particularly, both E.T. and I marveled at how Siaka Stevens had cunningly manipulated Sir Henry Lightfoot-Boston in order to have himself appointed as Prime Minister when he knew that he had not won the elections. Therefore, for E.T. to turn around in less than a month to publicly express what was attributed to him in the Cocorioko article causes me to worry about the mental state of my “damia,” whom I know to be a decent man, a good husband to my sister, and a good father to my nephews and nieces.
I have heard that former APC apparatchiks tend to hallucinate during election cycles because the current political dispensation in Sierra Leone has made nonsense of their only political skill – the perpetration of violence in order to maintain power. However, we have not observed this in Damia before. Hence, I am not sure whether he is now just being afflicted by this “APC-hallucination” syndrome or whether his mind is being affected by Texas’ heat and humidity. Actually, I sincerely hope that he is only being affected by the general foolishness that we are seeing somersaulting everywhere around us during this current election cycle. However, in order to rule out the first two more serious scenarios, I am going to arrange an emergency family meeting (with my sister, nieces, and nephews) in order to have competent medical authorities diagnose Damia’s sudden affliction. Finally, on behalf of the family, I ask all those whose intelligence were abused by his recent utterances to just ignore him because he is obviously oblivious to what all Sierra Leoneans know – that the APC was despicable regime with which we should never be cursed. Finally, it is my wish that we can safely ensconce E.T. somewhere (perhaps away from the Texas heat if this turns out to be the cause of his strange affliction) so that he will no longer insult your intelligence with similar utterances in the future
From: Knice
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I am so grateful for this article by my cousin, Kelfala. I am especially glad that what Gershon Collier said about this issue in his book, "Sierra Leone - An Experiment in an African Democracy" is in total agreement with the facts that Kelfala presents in this article.
From: FENTHI
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Mr. independent Man,
I am happy to inform you that a bed has been secured for you at the Kissy Mental Hospital and Dr. Nahim is waiting.There are new types of mental drugs called SSRIs that may well be suitable and, when combined with known antipsychotic neuroleptics like Haloperidol may well be helpful in your case.
I am too sure that after your treatment we would have eliminated at least one again of those that are so guilty of distorting Sierra Leone`s history. If not, then the next solution is to get you to read Julius Caesar`s posting below on this Forum on the 1967 Elections 7x7 times (49 times) in order to understand the publication`s implications and its aim in historically educating us all on this important period of our History. Have a nice day.
From: TOMBOWALA
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T^his guys last name is kallon and many of his type family members were involved in the RUF war. he has absolutely ZERO credibility. save the space at Kissy Crase yard for someone who genuinely needs treatment. This one is beyond treatment. He comes froma family that is so pro RUF that you wouldnt believe it.
From: Olu Cole
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Alieu, this Kelfala kallon guy should be dismissed not becos of his name but bec os he is just dumb. Look at the bota bata he wrote in the very 1st sentence of his langa langa manisfesto.
From: Kelfala Kallon
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Date Posted: 12:35:21 04/11/07 ()
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Obviously, Olu Cole prefers a color-coded map to understand the sense in which I used mea culpa -- that E. T. Kamara's ludicrous explanation of the reasons for the APC's bad governance (namely that the SLPP caused it) is a veritable admission of guilt. In my opinion, one who dismisses an essay without reading it beyond the first line demonstrates such a level of anti-intellectualism that he is not worthy of a reply. And for those who cannot engage in intellectual debate without resorting to labeling, I'll just leave them to roll in their murk.
From: Non-Partisan Observer
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Kelfala Kallon's is an impressive essay and reflects great talents in the writer's ability to manifest his thoughts with precision, style, clear thinking, humor and sarcastic wit.
From: Teacher
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reflects great talents in the writer's ability to manifest his thoughts with precision,
From: Non-Partisan Observer
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What you're refering "big words" is what is called Stylistics in Linguistics.
"ability to write", borrowing your words, but did a fabulous job piecing together valuable material for linguistic analysis.
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Boy, you guys are hard to teach! Let me make it really simple:
From: Non-Partisan Observer
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What you call "mistakes of vocabulary" (which by the way is wrong grammar) is what is referred to as Semantics in Linguistics.
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You don't have to rum away from your mistakes of grammar (such as writing incorrect grammar like "wrong grammar.")
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Kelfala Kallon, as an observer I can see that you do not understand Olu Cole's criticism of your use of the term mea culpa to refer to E.T. Kamara's defense of Siaka Stevens' rule.
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becareful now thers a DUMMY around her whos going to blame you for me
From: Olu Cole
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Date Posted: 11:26:39 04/11/07 ()
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LOL, is that dummy the one who signs as STOP.
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ALIEU, STOP. GROW UP.
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STOP NAR BIKFOOL MAN
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Sierra Leone’s Regime Types from Milton Margai to Valentine Strasser
- Wednesday 11 April 2007.
"The National Provisional Ruling Council (NPRC) headed by Captain Valentine E. M. Strasser at the age of 27 can be characterized as an ambiguous regime. It is the result of the inability of previous regimes to meet and overcome the crisis that afflicted public agencies at the close of the third decade of independence and to establish a modicum of sociopolitical exchange."
By Dr.Abdul Karim Bangura,USA.
Introduction
That Sierra Leonean political processes have been complex, heterogeneous, and frequently both perplexing and uncertain is hardly an exaggeration. Together, political procedures and patterns of change paint a diverse picture of politics. The images portray cases of mismanagement and gross inhumanity, of irresponsibility and official pillaging, alongside those